Final generation 4 moveset errors

***Cathy***** · Sep 14th, 2010, 11:22:51 PM

I plan on using the site movesets for the movesets in the new simulator, so we need to ensure that they are in fact correct. Hence this thread is dedicated to posting errors with generation 4 movesets on the site, and only movesets. Other errors should still go in the appropriate existing threads.

When you post an error, you should include some explanation to assist whoever reviews your post. The format is that you should include, in a [code] tag, on each line, the pokemon species name followed by a colon and then a list of moves that should be added separated by commas, or moves to remove prefaced by minus signs. Here is an example:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat A possible reply to this thread

Code:

PokemonQ: Tackle, -Ember
PokemonZ: -Rest

PokemonQ learns Tackle through method Y, and there is no way it can learn Ember (see sources W and Z). Similarly, PokemonZ is well known to be one of the pokemon who cannot learn Rest.

A second person (a C&C mod) should review each post in the thread and edit it to indicate if the information is indeed correct or not with a reviewer message. This should be after the person's text.

Thanks for your help!

Dubulous · Sep 15th, 2010, 10:26:17 AM

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Azurill: Swift, Snore, Icy Wind, Mud-Slap, Rollout, -Aqua Jet, -Belly Drum, -Future Sight, -Superpower, -Supersonic

Azurill learns Swift, Snore, Icy Wind, Mud-Slap, and Rollout through move tutors in HG/SS. There is no way that it can learn Aqua Jet, Belly Drum, Future Sight, Superpower, and Supersonic (see here and here). These moves are in Marill's movepool but not Azurill's.

***Jibaku**** · Sep 15th, 2010, 10:34:55 AM

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Celebi: Sucker Punch

drcossack brought this to my attention a while back, and I checked and confirmed it. Celebi learns Sucker Punch through the move tutor in HGSS.

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Latios: Magic Coat

While stellar brought up something regarding Smogon's movelists being incorrect, I decided to check Latios to verify his claim. Latios learns Magic Coat via HGSS move tutor.

Speaking of Magic Coat, a lot of Pokemon learnsets have Magic Coat and Role Play reversed on site (e.g Lucario learns Role Play but not Magic Coat but this is the other way round on site), but I can't be bothered to compile a list atm.

eric the espeon · Sep 15th, 2010, 12:00:38 PM

I am currently working on correcting both gen 3 and 4 learnsets (gen 3 moves are essential to have right since many moves can only be learned there, unless you intend to use a different source for third gen moves?), if this is urgent then I'll make it a priority. People are free to continue posting errors they find here (indeed it will be a useful thing to check my list against), but bear in mind that a vast majority of Smogon's mistakes will be solvable by comparing the output chaos gave me with one from Veekun and PO.

Edit: I have 451 moves to add to the Smogon third gen db so far, along with a sprinkling of errors in the other databases. And a few thousand more lines to check. I don't know how much I'll have done before my next LOA (18th-25th), but will do my best. Wild Eep and others have been helping confirm tutors, and has picked up a small number of mistakes in veekun's third gen tutor list which I will forward to eevee when the list is complete.

***Cathy***** · Sep 15th, 2010, 5:49:09 PM

Comparing Smogon to Veekun can be done automatically, if there are actually a huge number of differences.

eric the espeon · Sep 15th, 2010, 6:12:59 PM

Indeed it can, in fact I am already automating a vast majority of the work. I have used a spreadsheet to generate a list of moves on which they disagree from three ~19000 line tables. The real work is checking which source is right for each move on which they disagree. Only counting the third generation the list of moves which Smogon lacks and PO has is 696 long, Smogon has 260 moves which PO does not The list of moves which Smogon has and Veekun lacks is 1086, and there are 122 which Veekun has which are missing from Smogon. These differences must be checked against other dexes, lists of event Pokemon, lists of pre evo moves (since veekun lacked the last two), and for those which are not cleared up by the previous methods the game itself. If you wish to generate a list which is accurate as the one I am working on, we will need to scoop info from Bulbapedia and Psydex and various event guides (I can provide you with links to all trusted sources if you require them) since they have also proven very useful in identifying errors (even though they both contain errors, they are a different set of errors). Then compare all of the sources, and finally still have a significant list of moves which should be verified ingame. The alternative is to rerip the moves, or I continue with the learnset checking I am doing and have people contribute to this thread and the sticky just above it which already has a large number of corrections suggested in it (many unverified, but I'll check them once the table has been looked through). If you wish to automate it further, please do. It would be great to have more sources in a format which can be used for automated comparison.

Edit: Brought it up to 508 confirmed corrections to Smogon.

Edit 2: Checked another 130 moves this morning, only found just over a dozen errors on Smogon mixed in with them.

**Theorymon** · Sep 17th, 2010, 6:27:20 PM

heres the fixes Magic Coat and Roleplay users need!

Code:

Vulpix:  -Magic Coat, +Role Play, 
Ninetales:  -Magic Coat, +Role Play, 
Psyduck:  -Magic Coat, +Role Play 
Golduck:  -Magic Coat, +Role Play
Mankey: -Magic Coat, +Role Play
Primeape: -Magic Coat, +Role Play
Machop: -Magic Coat, +Role Play   
Machoke: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Machamp: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Tentacool: -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Tentacruel: -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Slowpoke: -Role Play, +Magic Coat  
Slowbro: -Role Play, +Magic Coat  
Magnemite:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Magneton:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Gengar:  -Magic Coat, +Role Play 
Voltorb: -Role Play, +Magic Coat 
Electrode: -Role Play, +Magic Coat 
Hitmonlee: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Hitmonchan: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Staryu: -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Starmie:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Tauros: -Magic Coat, +Role Play 
Porygon:  --Role Play, +Magic Coat
Chikorita:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Bayleef:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Meganium:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Hoothoot:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Noctowl:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat 
Togepi: -Role Play, +Magic Coat  
Togetic:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat  
Natu:   -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Xatu:   -Role Play, +Magic Coat 
Sudowoodo: -Magic Coat, +Role Play   
Aipom: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Espeon: -Role Play, +Magic Coat  
Slowking: -Role Play, +Magic Coat  
Misdreavus:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat  
Girafarig:  -Role Play
Dunsparce:  -Role Play
Corsola: -Role Play, +Magic Coat 
Houndour:  -Magic Coat, +Role Play 
Houndoom:  -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Porygon2:   -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Stantler:  -Magic Coat
Tyrogue: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Hitmontop: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Celebi:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat 
Blaziken: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Ralts:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat 
Kirlia:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat 
Gardevoir:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat  
Makuhita: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Hariyama: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Nosepass:   -Role Play, +Magic Coat  
Sableye:   -Role Play, +Magic Coat  
Spinda: -Magic Coat
Cacnea:  -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Cacturne:  -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Lunatone:   -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Solrock:   -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Baltoy:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat 
Claydol:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat 
Milotic: -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Chimecho:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat 
Latios:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Jirachi:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat   
Chimchar: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Monferno: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Infernape: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Bastiodon: -Role Play, +Magic Coat  
Ambipom: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Drifloon:   -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Drifblim:   -Role Play, +Magic Coat
Buneary: -Role Play, +Magic Coat   
Lopunny: -Role Play
Mismagius:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat  
Chingling:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat 
Bonsly: -Magic Coat, +Role Play   
Chatot:  -Magic Coat, +Role Play 
Riolu: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Lucario: -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Croagunk:  -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Toxicroak:  -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Snover:  -Magic Coat, +Role Play
Abomasnow:  -Magic Coat, +Role Play  
Magnezone:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat 
Togekiss:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat   
Porygon-Z:  --Role Play, +Magic Coat
Gallade:  -Role Play, +Magic Coat  
Probopass:   -Role Play, +Magic Coat

Rising_Dusk · Sep 29th, 2010, 6:18:28 AM

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Togekiss: Tri Attack

Togepi learns Tri Attack by being purified in Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness, and can then evolve into a Togekiss. Smogon's database lists Togepi and Togetic as correctly having the move, but Togekiss somehow must have been missed.

Rising_Dusk · Sep 29th, 2010, 1:30:54 PM

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Nidoran-m: Head Smash
Nidorino: Head Smash
Nidoking: Head Smash

It is a HGSS move for this evolution family, and yet somehow never got added to the database way back when. Serebii and Psypoke both confirm.

TotalPotato · Sep 29th, 2010, 6:16:07 PM

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Bulbasaur: Fury Cutter, Snore
Ivysaur: Fury Cutter, Snore
Venusaur: Fury Cutter, Snore
Charmander: Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Snore
Charmeleon: Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Snore
Charizard: Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Snore
Squirtle: Icy Wind, Dive, Ice Punch, Snore
Wartortle: Icy Wind, Dive, Ice Punch, Snore
Blastoise: Icy Wind, Dive, Ice Punch, Snore
Beedrill: Fury Cutter, Snore
Pidgey: Snore
Pidgeotto: Snore
Pidgeot: Snore
Rattata: Icy Wind, Snore
Raticate: Icy Wind, Snore
Spearow: Snore
Fearow: Snore
Ekans: Snore
Arbok: Snore
Pikachu: Snore
Raichu: Snore
Sandshrew: Snore
Sandslash: Snore
Nidorina: Snore
Nidoqueen: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, ThunderPunch, Snore
Nidorino: Snore
Nidoking: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, ThunderPunch, Snore
Clefairy: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Clefable: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Vulpix: Snore
Ninetales: Snore
Jigglypuff: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Wigglytuff: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Zubat: Snore
Golbat: Snore
Oddish: Snore
Gloom: Snore
Vileplume: Snore
Paras: Fury Cutter, Snore
Parasect: Fury Cutter, Snore
Venonat: Snore
Venomoth: Snore
Diglett: Snore
Dugtrio: Snore
Meowth: Icy Wind, Snore
Persian: Icy Wind, Snore
Psyduck: Dive, Ice Punch, Snore
Golduck: Dive, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Snore
Growlithe: Snore
Arcanine: Snore
Mankey: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Primeape: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Poliwag: Icy Wind, Dive, Snore
Poliwhirl: Icy Wind, Dive, Ice Punch, Snore
Poliwrath: Icy Wind, Dive, Ice Punch, Snore
Abra: Snore
Kadabra: Snore
Alakazam: Snore
Machop: Snore
Machoke: Snore
Machamp: Snore
Bellsprout: Snore
Weepinbell: Snore
Victreebel: Snore
Tentacool: Icy Wind, Dive, Snore
Tentacruel: Icy Wind, Dive, Snore
Geodude: Fire Punch, Snore
Graveler: Fire Punch, Snore
Golem: Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Snore
Ponyta: Snore
Rapidash: Snore
Slowpoke: Icy Wind, Dive, -Ice Punch
Slowbro: Icy Wind, Dive, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch
Magnemite: Snore
Magneton: Snore
Farfetch'd: Snore
Doduo: Snore
Dodrio: Snore
Seel: Snore
Dewgong: Snore
Grimer: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Muk: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Shellder: Icy Wind, Dive, Snore
Cloyster: Icy Wind, Dive, Snore
Gastly: Snore
Haunter: Snore
Gengar: Snore
Onix: Snore
Drowzee: Snore
Hypno: Snore
Krabby: Icy Wind, Dive, Fury Cutter, Snore
Kingler: Icy Wind, Dive, Fury Cutter, Snore
Voltorb: Snore
Electrode: Snore
Exeggcute: Snore
Exeggutor: Snore
Cubone: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Marowak: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Hitmonlee: Snore
Hitmonchan: Snore
Lickitung: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Koffing: Snore
Weezing: Snore
Rhyhorn: Icy Wind, Snore
Rhydon: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, ThunderPunch, Snore
Chansey: Icy Wind, Snore
Tangela: Snore
Kangaskhan: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Horsea: Icy Wind, Dive, Snore
Seadra: Icy Wind, Dive, Snore
Goldeen: Icy Wind, Dive, Fury Cutter, Snore
Seaking: Icy Wind, Dive, Fury Cutter, Snore
Staryu: Icy Wind, Dive, Snore
Starmie: Icy Wind, Dive, Snore
Mr. Mime: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Scyther: Snore
Jynx: Icy Wind, Snore
Electabuzz: Snore
Magmar: Snore
Pinsir: Fury Cutter, Snore
Tauros: Icy Wind, Snore
Gyarados: Icy Wind, Dive, Snore
Lapras: Icy Wind, Dive, Snore
Eevee: Snore
Vaporeon: Icy Wind, Dive, Snore
Jolteon: Snore
Flareon: Snore
Porygon: Icy Wind, Snore
Omanyte: Icy Wind, Dive, Snore
Omastar: Icy Wind, Dive, Snore
Kabuto: Snore
Kabutops: Dive, Fury Cutter, Snore
Aerodactyl: Snore
Snorlax: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Articuno: Icy Wind, Snore
Zapdos: Snore
Moltres: Snore
Dratini: Icy Wind, Snore
Dragonair: Icy Wind, Snore
Dragonite: Icy Wind, Dive, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Snore
Mewtwo: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Mew: Icy Wind, Dive, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Chikorita: Fury Cutter, Snore
Bayleef: Fury Cutter, Snore
Meganium: Fury Cutter, Snore
Cyndaquil: Snore
Quilava: Fury Cutter, Snore
Typhlosion: Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, ThunderPunch, Snore
Totodile: Icy Wind, Dive, Snore
Croconaw: Icy Wind, Dive, Fury Cutter, Snore
Feraligatr: Icy Wind, Dive, Fury Cutter, Snore
Sentret: Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Furret: Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Hoothoot: Snore
Noctowl: Snore
Ledyba: Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Ledian: Ice Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Spinarak: Snore
Ariados: Snore
Crobat: Snore
Chinchou: Dive, Snore
Lanturn: Dive, Snore
Pichu: Snore
Cleffa: Icy Wind, Snore
Igglybuff: Icy Wind, Snore
Togepi: Snore
Togetic: Snore
Natu: Snore
Xatu: Snore
Mareep: Snore
Flaaffy: Fire Punch, ThunderPunch, Snore
Ampharos: Snore
Bellossom: Snore
Marill: Icy Wind, Dive, Ice Punch, Snore
Azumarill: Icy Wind, Dive, Ice Punch, Snore
Sudowoodo: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Politoed: Icy Wind, Dive
Aipom: Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Wooper: Dive, Ice Punch
Quagsire: Dive, Ice Punch
Murkrow: Icy Wind
Slowking: Icy Wind, Dive, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch
Snubbull: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Granbull: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Qwilfish: Icy Wind, Dive
Heracross: Fury Cutter
Sneasel: Fury Cutter
Teddiursa: Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Ursaring: Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Remoraid: Dive
Octillery: Dive
Delibird: Icy Wind
Mantine: Icy Wind, Dive
Kingdra: Icy Wind, Dive
Porygon2: Icy Wind
Smoochum: Icy Wind
Miltank: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Blissey: Icy Wind
Suicune: Icy Wind, Dive
Tyranitar: Fire Punch, Fury Cutter
Lugia: Icy Wind, Dive
Treecko: Fury Cutter, ThunderPunch
Grovyle: ThunderPunch
Sceptile: ThunderPunch
Combusken: Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, ThunderPunch
Blaziken: Fury Cutter, ThunderPunch
Mudkip: Icy Wind, Dive
Marshtomp: Icy Wind, Dive, Ice Punch
Swampert: Icy Wind, Dive, Ice Punch
Zigzagoon: Icy Wind, Fury Cutter
Linoone: Icy Wind, Fury Cutter
Lotad: Icy Wind
Lombre: Icy Wind, Dive, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Ludicolo: Icy Wind, Dive, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Nuzleaf: Fury Cutter
Shiftry: Fury Cutter
Wingull: Icy Wind
Pelipper: Icy Wind
Ralts: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Kirlia: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Gardevoir: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Surskit: Icy Wind
Masquerain: Icy Wind
Breloom: Fury Cutter, ThunderPunch
Slakoth: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Vigoroth: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Slaking: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Nincada: Fury Cutter
Shedinja: Fury Cutter
Whismur: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Loudred: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Exploud: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Makuhita: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Hariyama: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Azurill: Icy Wind
Nosepass: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Skitty: Icy Wind
Delcatty: Icy Wind
Sableye: Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Mawile: Icy Wind, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Aron: Fury Cutter
Lairon: Fury Cutter
Aggron: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Plusle: ThunderPunch
Minun: ThunderPunch
Volbeat: Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Illumise: Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Roselia: Fury Cutter
Gulpin: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Swalot: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Carvanha: Icy Wind, Dive, Fury Cutter
Sharpedo: Icy Wind, Dive, Fury Cutter
Wailmer: Icy Wind
Wailord: Icy Wind
Spoink: Icy Wind
Grumpig: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Spinda: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Flygon: Fire Punch
Cacnea: Fury Cutter, ThunderPunch
Cacturne: Fury Cutter, ThunderPunch
Zangoose: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Seviper: Fury Cutter
Barboach: Icy Wind, Dive
Whiscash: Icy Wind, Dive
Corphish: Icy Wind, Fury Cutter
Crawdaunt: Icy Wind, Dive, Fury Cutter
Feebas: Icy Wind, Dive
Milotic: Icy Wind, Dive
Castform: Icy Wind
Kecleon: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Shuppet: Icy Wind
Banette: Icy Wind
Duskull: Icy Wind
Dusclops: Icy Wind
Tropius: Fury Cutter
Chimecho: Icy Wind
Absol: Icy Wind, Fury Cutter
Spheal: Icy Wind, Dive
Sealeo: Icy Wind, Dive
Walrein: Icy Wind, Dive
Clamperl: Icy Wind, Dive
Huntail: Icy Wind
Gorebyss: Icy Wind
Relicanth: Icy Wind
Luvdisc: Icy Wind, Dive
Bagon: Fury Cutter
Shelgon: Fury Cutter
Salamence: Fury Cutter
Metang: Icy Wind, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Metagross: Icy Wind, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Regirock: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Regice: Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Registeel: Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Latias: Icy Wind, Dive, Fury Cutter
Latios: Icy Wind, Dive, Fury Cutter
Kyogre: Icy Wind, Dive
Groudon: Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, ThunderPunch
Rayquaza: Icy Wind, Dive, Fury Cutter
Jirachi: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Deoxys: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Roserade: Fury Cutter
Ambipom: Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Munchlax: Fire Punch
Weavile: Fury Cutter
Lickilicky: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Rhyperior: Icy Wind, Fire Punch, ThunderPunch
Mamoswine: Fury Cutter
Porygon-Z: Icy Wind
Gallade: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Probopass: Fire Punch, Ice Punch, ThunderPunch
Dusknoir: Icy Wind

All of the above moves are 4th gen tutor moves that were either tutor moves or HM moves in the 3rd gen. I checked against Veekun and Serebii, and when the lists conflicted (Mamoswine learning Fury Cutter, Slowpoke not learning Ice Punch), I checked it in my own HG game (in both cases, Serebii turned out to be correct).

The Smogon list notably excludes the Pokémon that learnt the move both in the 3rd gen and in the 4th gen, but include the Pokémon that only learns the move in the 4th gen (except alternate forms of Deoxys). 4th gen evolutions of non-4th gen Pokémon also obey this rule, but pre-evolutions do not (however, Munchlax did not have Fire Punch, although it did have Ice Punch). I don't know why these trends apply, and I don't know whether there's an easy fix that doesn't involve me trawling through the other tutor moves, but I thought it deserved a mention.

If there isn't an easy fix, I'll probably update this list with more tutor moves later (or should I make a new post in case it gets confusing with C&C mods checking lists and such?).

***Wild Eep**** · Sep 29th, 2010, 6:27:56 PM

Code:

Togepi: Helping Hand
Togetic: Helping Hand
Togekiss: Helping Hand

Everybody knows the XD Togepi gets Tri Attack, but they also forget that it is also the only way to get Helping Hand on the Togepi family.

TMTRAINER · Oct 13th, 2010, 5:57:08 PM

I've looked long and hard, and this seems to be the most fitting place to post this.

Code:

Absol: Superpower
Blaziken: Thunderpunch
Swampert: Icepunch

So then, while none of these moves are listed for these mons in the Smogon Dex, Blaziken and Swampert do get their punches on Lab. Absol, however, lacks the move listed in both Lab and on Smogon, and has no good coverage moves on Lab due to a lack of Superpower (the funny thing is that Absol has Superpower listed on all his sets so it logically should be listed as a move).

Sources:
Absol- here and here
Blaziken- here
Swampert- here
Just a couple examples. You could also check the respective mon's pages to find the moves listed there as well.
Help me out here, in the time being Absol is not very useful on Lab >.>

eric the espeon · Nov 2nd, 2010, 5:34:14 PM

So I mostly finished gen 3, once that's done I'll start on gen 4. Keep the fixes coming, this thread will be a useful resource to check my results against.

yiran · Nov 3rd, 2010, 12:35:37 AM

Code:

Celebi: Nasty Plot
Clefable: Softboiled

Well when I search the moves up they don't learn them. Are they from HGSS tutor or something?

Sandking · Nov 4th, 2010, 2:23:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Groshi

Code:

Celebi: Nasty Plot
Clefable: Softboiled

Well when I search the moves up they don't learn them. Are they from HGSS tutor or something?

Celebi got nasty plot from a Japanese event this year. Clefable learns softboiled from a 3rd gen move tutor.

yiran · Nov 6th, 2010, 10:18:10 PM

So they don't show previous Generation Move Tutors and special moves?

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/softboiled
http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/nasty_plot

Well, they aren't on the list.

Charmander · Jan 12th, 2011, 3:02:38 PM

the belly drum sweeper set has Pickup as the ability :/
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/zigzagoon

**Nexus** · Jan 12th, 2011, 3:24:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat -Charmander-

the belly drum sweeper set has Pickup as the ability :/
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/zigzagoon

That's because Gluttony + ExtremeSpeed is an illegal combination, Gluttony is a fourth generation ability and ExtremeSpeed is an event move from the Zigzagoon obtained in Pokemon Box R/S, hence it is third generation event move and cannot be passed down by breeding in a fourth generation game. It's mentioned in the Overview for Zigzagoon, that the combination of ExtremeSpeed + Gluttony is illegal.

Mr.E · Jan 29th, 2011, 6:13:00 PM

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...0&postcount=47

I no longer actually see a place I can post for older gens but that post says I should just put any of it here anyway. :(

As part of my carry-over from this post, I noticed GSC Blissey's Moves tab doesn't list that it learns Counter. Again, it is a move learned through RBY TM that isn't listed in the Dex. Its second analysis even lists a Counter moveset, heh.

Diana · Jul 16th, 2011, 3:17:47 PM

Okay, going to go through some of these and see what I find. If I don't list a Pokemon, then there aren't any errors. That seems to be rare, outside of some 4th gen Pokemon or ones with really small movepools.

Code:

Bulbasaur: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Ivysaur: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Venusaur: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Charmander: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rage, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Charmeleon: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rage, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Charizard: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rage, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Squirtle: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore
Wartortle: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore
Blastoise: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore
Butterfree: Double-Edge, Mimic, Swift
Beedrill: Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Pidgey: Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Pidgeotto: Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Pidgeot: Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Rattata: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Raticate: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Spearow: Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Fearow: Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Ekans: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Arbok: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Pikachu: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fly, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Raichu: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fly, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Sandshrew: Body Slam, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Sandslash: Body Slam, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Nidorina: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Nidoqueen: Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Nidoran-M: Head Smash
Nidorino: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Head Smash, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Nidoking: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Head Smash, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Clefairy: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, Softboiled, ThunderPunch, Trick, Uproar
Clefable: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, Softboiled, ThunderPunch
Vulpix: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Ninetales: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Jigglypuff: Counter, Dynamicpunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Wigglytuff: Counter, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Zubat: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Golbat: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Oddish: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Gloom: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Vileplume: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Paras: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Snore, Synthesis
Parasect: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Snore, Synthesis
Venonat: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Venomoth: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Diglett: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Fury Swipes, Mimic, Snore
Dugtrio: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Fury Swipes, Mimic, Snore
Meowth: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Persian: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Psyduck: Body Slam, Counter, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Golduck: Body Slam, Counter, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Mankey: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Psych Up, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Primeape: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Psych Up, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Growlithe: Mimic, Snore, Swift
Arcanine: Mimic, Snore, Swift
Poliwag: Defense Curl, Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore
Poliwhirl: Counter, Defense Curl, Dive, Double-Edge, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Poliwrath: Counter, Defense Curl, Dive, Double-Edge, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Abra: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Seismic Toss, Snore
Kadabra: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Seismic Toss, Snore
Alakazam: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Seismic Toss, Snore
Machop: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Machoke: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Machamp: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Bellsprout: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Weepinbell: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Victreebel: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Tentacool: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore
Tentacruel: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore
Geodude: Body Slam, Counter, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Graveler: Body Slam, Counter, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Golem: Body Slam, Counter, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Mega Kick, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Ponyta: Body Slam, Mimic, Quick Attack, Snore, Swift
Rapidash: Body Slam, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Slowpoke: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Slowbro: Body Slam, Counter, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Magnemite: Double-Edge, Mimic, Rollout, Snore, Swift
Magneton: Double-Edge, Mimic, Rollout, Snore, Swift
Farfetch'd: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Doduo: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift, Tri-Attack
Dodrio: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Seel: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Dewgong: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Grimer: Body Slam, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Mimic, Snore, ThunderPunch
Muk: Body Slam, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Mimic, Snore, ThunderPunch
Shellder: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Cloyster: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Gastly: Mimic, Snore
Haunter: Mimic, Snore
Gengar: Body Slam, Counter, DynamicPunch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Seismic Toss, Snore
Onix: Body Slam, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Drowzee: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Seismic Toss, Snore
Hypno: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Seismic Toss, Snore
Krabby: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Kingler: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Voltorb: Mimic, Snore
Electrode: Mimic, Snore
Exeggcute: Double-Edge, Mimic, Rollout, Snore
Exeggutor: Double-Edge, Mimic, Refresh, Rollout, Snore
Cubone: Body Slam, Counter, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Marowak: Body Slam, Counter, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Hitmonlee: Body Slam, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift, Uproar
Hitmonchan: Body Slam, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mega Kick, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift, Uproar
Lickitung: Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, ThunderPunch
Koffing: Mimic, Rollout, Snore
Weezing: Mimic, Rollout, Snore
Rhyhorn: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore
Rhydon: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Chansey: Body Slam, DynamicPunch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore
Tangela: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Kangaskhan: Body Slam, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Horsea: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Seadra: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Goldeen: Dive, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Seaking: Dive, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Staryu: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore
Starmie: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore
Mr. Mime: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Scyther: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Jynx: Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Electabuzz: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Magmar: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, Mega Kick, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Pinsir: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Snore
Tauros: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore
Gyarados: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Uproar
Lapras: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore
Eevee: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Vapreon: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Jolteon: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Flareon: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Leer, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Porygon: Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Omanyte: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore
Omastar: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Seismic Toss, Snore
Kabuto: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Rollout, Snore
Kabutops: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mega Kick, Mimic, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore
Aerodactyl: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Snorlax: Counter, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, ThunderPunch
Articuno: Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Zapdos: Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Moltres: Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Dratini: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Dragonair: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Dragonite: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Mewtwo: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Mew: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Endeavor, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Gunk Shot, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, Softboiled, Swift, ThunderPunch, Zen Headbutt
Chikorita: Double-Edge, Frenzy Plant, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Bayleef: Double-Edge, Frenzy Plant, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Meganium: Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Cyndaquil: Blast Burn, Body Slam, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Quilava: Blast Burn, Body Slam, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Typhlosion: Body Slam, Counter, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Totodile: Body Slam, Counter, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Hydro Cannon, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Croconaw: Body Slam, Counter, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fury Cutter, Hydro Cannon, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Feraligatr: Body Slam, Counter, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Sentret: Body Slam, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Furret: Body Slam, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Hoothoot: Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Noctowl: Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Ledyba: DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Mega Punch, Mimic, Rollout, Snore, ThunderPunch
Ledian: DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Mega Punch, Mimic, Rollout, Snore, ThunderPunch
Spinarak: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Ariados: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Crobat: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Chinchou: Dive, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Lanturn: Dive, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Pichu: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Cleffa: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Helping Hand, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, Softboiled
Igglybuff: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, Helping Hand, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore
Togepi: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Togetic: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, Softboiled, Swift
Natu: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Xatu: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Mareep: Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Flaaffy: Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Ampharos: Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Bellossom: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Uproar
Marill: Body Slam, Dive, DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Azumarill: Body Slam, Dive, DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Sudowoodo: Body Slam, Counter, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Politoed: Counter, Defense Curl, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Hyper Voice, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, -Sweet Scent
Hoppip: Defense Curl, Mimic, Snore
Skiploom: Defense Curl, Mimic, Snore
Jumpluff: Defense Curl, Mimic, Snore
Aipom: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Sunkern: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Sunflora: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Yanma: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Wooper: Defense Curl, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore
Quagsire: Defense Curl, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore
Espeon: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Umbreon: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Murkrow: Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Slowking: Body Slam, Counter, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Misdreavus: Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Girafarig: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Pineco: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Mimic, Rollout, Snore
Forretress: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Mimic, Rollout, Snore
Dunsparce: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap
Gligar: Mimic, Snore, Swift
Steelix: Body Slam, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Snubbull: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, ThunderPunch
Granbull: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, ThunderPunch
Qwilfish: Counter, Defense Curl, Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift, Swords Dance
Scizor: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Shuckle: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Mimic, Rollout, Snore
Heracross: Body Slam, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Seismic Toss, Snore
Sneasel: Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Teddiursa: Body Slam, Defense Curl, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Swift, ThunderPunch
Ursaring: Body Slam, Defense Curl, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Swift, ThunderPunch
Slugma: Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore
Magcargo: Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore
Swinub: Defense Curl, Mimic, Snore
Piloswine: Defense Curl, Mimic, Snore
Corsola: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore
Remoraid: Defense Curl, Dive, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Swift
Octillery: Defense Curl, Dive, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Swift
Delibird: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Mantine: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Skarmory: Counter, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Houndour: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Houndoom: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Kingdra: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Phanpy: Mimic, Mud-Slap
Donphan: Mimic, Mud-Slap
Porygon2: Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Stantler: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Tyrogue: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mega Kick, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Hitmontop: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mega Kick, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Smoochum: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Elekid: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Magby: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, Mega Kick, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Miltank: Counter, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, ThunderPunch
Blissey: Body Slam, DynamicPunch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, Uproar, Zen Headbutt
Raikou: Aura Sphere, Body Slam, Double-Edge, ExtremeSpeed, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift, Weather Ball, Zap Cannon
Entei: Body Slam, Crush Claw, Double-Edge, ExtremeSpeed, Flare Blitz, Howl, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Suicune: Air Slash, Aqua Ring, Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, ExtremeSpeed, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Sheer Cold, Snore, Swift
Larvitar: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Pupitar: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Tyranitar: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Lugia: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Earth Power, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Twister
Ho-oh: Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Celebi: Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Nasty Plot, Snore, Swift
Treecko: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fury Cutter, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Grovyle: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Sceptile: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Torchic: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Combusken: Body Slam, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Blaziken: Body Slam, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mmic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Mudkip: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Dive, Icy Wind, Mimic, Rollout, Snore
Marshtomp: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Dive, DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore
Swampert: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Dive, DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore
Poochyena: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, Heal Bell, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Psych Up, Snore
Mightyena: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, Heal Bell, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Psych Up, Snore
Zigzagoon: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mimic, Rollout, Snore, Swift, -Fury Swipes, -Switcheroo
Linoone: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mimic, Pin Missile, Rollout, Snore, Swift
Beautifly: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Dustox: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Lotad: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore
Lombre: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, ThunderPunch
Ludicolo: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Seedot: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Mimic, Rollout, Snore, Swift
Nuzleaf: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mega Kick, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore, Swift
Shiftry: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mega Kick, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore, Swift
Taillow: Counter, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Swellow: Counter, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Wingull: Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Pelipper: Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Ralts: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Kirlia: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Gardevoir: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Surskit: Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Masquerain: Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Shroomish: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Breloom: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Slakoth: Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, ThunderPunch
Vigoroth: Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, ThunderPunch
Slaking: Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, ThunderPunch
Nincada: Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Snore
Ninjask: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Shedinja: Baton Pass, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Slash, Snore, Swords Dance
Whismur: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Psych Up, Rollout, Seismic Toss, ThunderPunch
Loudred: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Psych Up, Rollout, Seismic Toss, ThunderPunch
Exploud: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Psych Up, Rollout, Seismic Toss, ThunderPunch
Makuhita: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, ThunderPunch
Hariyama: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, ThunderPunch
Azurill: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore, Swift, -Amnesia, -Aqua Jet, -Belly Drum
Nosepass: Body Slam, Defense Curl, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Head Smash, Ice Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, ThunderPunch
Skitty: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore, Swift
Delcatty: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore, Swift
Sableye: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Mawile: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Magnet Rise, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Aron: Defense Curl, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Rollout, Snore
Lairon: Defense Curl, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Rollout, Snore
Aggron: Counter, Defense Curl, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Meditite: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Medicham: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift
Electrike: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Manectric: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Plusle: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Minun: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Volbeat: Body Slam, Counter, DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Illumise: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Roselia: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift, Uproar
Gulpin: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore, ThunderPunch
Swalot: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore, ThunderPunch
Carvanha: Dive, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Sharpedo: Dive, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Wailmer: Icy Wind, Mimic
Wailord: Icy Wind, Mimic
Numel: Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Camerupt: Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Torkoal: Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Spoink: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Swift
Grumpig: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Swift, ThunderPunch
Spinda: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Trapinch: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Vibrava: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Flygon: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Fire Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Cacnea: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Cacturne: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Swablu: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Altaria: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Zangoose: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Seviper: Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Lunatone: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Mimic, Rollout, Snore, Swift
Solrock: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Mimic, Rollout, Snore, Swift
Barboach: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic
Whiscash: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic
Corphish: Counter, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Crawdaunt: Counter, Dive, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Baltoy: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Claydol: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Lileep: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Psych Up, Snore
Cradily: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Psych Up, Snore
Anorith: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Armaldo: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Feebas: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Milotic: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Castform: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Kecleon: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Shuppet: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore
Banette: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Duskull: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore
Dusclops: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Tropius: Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Ominous Wind, Outrage, Snore
Chimecho: Defense Curl, Icy Wind, Mimic, Rollout, Snore, Swift
Absol: Body Slam, Bounce, Counter, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Megahorn, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Superpower, Swift
Snorunt: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Glalie: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Spheal: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout
Sealeo: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout
Walrein: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout
Clamperl: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore
Huntail: Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Gorebyss: Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Relicanth: Body Slam, Icy Wind, Mimic
Luvdisc: Dive, Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Bagon: Body Slam, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore
Shelgon: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore
Salamence: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore, Swift
Metang: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Metagross: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Regirock: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Regice: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Registeel: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Latias: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Latios: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Kyogre: Defense Curl, Dive, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Groudon: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, Swift, ThunderPunch
Rayquaza: Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Jirachi: Body Slam, Defense Curl, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, ThunderPunch
Deoxys: Body Slam, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Deoxys-A: Body Slam, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Seismic Toss
Deoxys-D: Body Slam, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Seismic Toss
Deoxys-S: Body Slam, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Seismic Toss
Infernape: Mud-Slap
Roserade: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Sweet Kiss, Swift
Burmy: Snore
Wormadam: -Dig, -Earthquake, -Fissure, -Flash Cannon, -Gyro Ball, -Harden, -Iron Head, -Metal Sound, -Mirror Shot, -Rock Blast, -Rock Tomb, -Sandstorm, -Stealth Rock
Wormadam-G: Rollout
Pachirisu: Seed Bomb
Cherubi: Weather Ball
Cherrim: Weather Ball
Shellos: Sludge, Trump Card
Gastrodon: Sludge, Trump Card
Ambipom: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Ice Punch, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Drifloon: Air Cutter
Buneary: Last Resort
Mismagius: Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Honchkrow: Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Munchlax: Fire Punch, SelfDestruct
Lucario: Helping Hand, Swift
Weavile: Defense Curl, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fury Cutter, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Magnezone: Double-Edge, Mimic, Rollout, Snore, Swift
Lickilicky: Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, ThunderPunch, Wish
Rhyperior: Body Slam, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, ThunderPunch
Tangrowth: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore
Electivire: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Magmortar: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, Follow Me, Mega Kick, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Togekiss: Body Slam, Counter, Defense Curl, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Rollout, Seismic Toss, Snore, Softboiled, Swift, Tri Attack, Twister
Yanmega: Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Leafeon: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Glaceon: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, Swift
Gliscor: Dream Eater, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Mamoswine: Defense Curl, Horn Attack, Mimic, Snore
Porygon-Z: Double-Edge, Icy Wind, Mimic, Snore, Swift
Gallade: Body Slam, Defense Curl, Double-Edge, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Icy Wind, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, ThunderPunch, Wish
Probopass: Body Slam, Defense Curl, DynamicPunch, Fire Punch, Head Smash, Helping Hand, Ice Punch, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Snore, ThunderPunch
Dusknoir: Body Slam, Counter, Double-Edge, DynamicPunch, Helping Hand, Icy Wind, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metronome, Mimic, Mud-Slap, Seismic Toss, Snore
Froslass: Body Slam, Double-Edge, Mimic, Snore, Spite
Shaymin: Snore
Shaymin-S: Snore

Ways to get moves

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Sep 15th, 2010, 10:26:17 AM	#2
Dubulous raidical Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,109 Life on the outside ain't what it used to be.	Code: Azurill: Swift, Snore, Icy Wind, Mud-Slap, Rollout, -Aqua Jet, -Belly Drum, -Future Sight, -Superpower, -Supersonic Azurill learns Swift, Snore, Icy Wind, Mud-Slap, and Rollout through move tutors in HG/SS. There is no way that it can learn Aqua Jet, Belly Drum, Future Sight, Superpower, and Supersonic (see here and here). These moves are in Marill's movepool but not Azurill's. __________________ And today will be better than yesterday.

Sep 15th, 2010, 10:34:55 AM	#3
*Jibaku [02:06] <DixieNormous> Rodan x pookar: Just Do It Super Moderator** Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,910 Foursquare, a sprained ankle, bottlecap ninjas, and wallball	Code: Celebi: Sucker Punch drcossack brought this to my attention a while back, and I checked and confirmed it. Celebi learns Sucker Punch through the move tutor in HGSS. Code: Latios: Magic Coat While stellar brought up something regarding Smogon's movelists being incorrect, I decided to check Latios to verify his claim. Latios learns Magic Coat via HGSS move tutor. Speaking of Magic Coat, a lot of Pokemon learnsets have Magic Coat and Role Play reversed on site (e.g Lucario learns Role Play but not Magic Coat but this is the other way round on site), but I can't be bothered to compile a list atm. __________________

Sep 15th, 2010, 12:00:38 PM	#4
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,695	I am currently working on correcting both gen 3 and 4 learnsets (gen 3 moves are essential to have right since many moves can only be learned there, unless you intend to use a different source for third gen moves?), if this is urgent then I'll make it a priority. People are free to continue posting errors they find here (indeed it will be a useful thing to check my list against), but bear in mind that a vast majority of Smogon's mistakes will be solvable by comparing the output chaos gave me with one from Veekun and PO. Edit: I have 451 moves to add to the Smogon third gen db so far, along with a sprinkling of errors in the other databases. And a few thousand more lines to check. I don't know how much I'll have done before my next LOA (18th-25th), but will do my best. Wild Eep and others have been helping confirm tutors, and has picked up a small number of mistakes in veekun's third gen tutor list which I will forward to eevee when the list is complete. __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted. Last edited by eric the espeon; Sep 15th, 2010 at 2:59:31 PM.

Sep 15th, 2010, 6:12:59 PM	#6
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,695	Indeed it can, in fact I am already automating a vast majority of the work. I have used a spreadsheet to generate a list of moves on which they disagree from three ~19000 line tables. The real work is checking which source is right for each move on which they disagree. Only counting the third generation the list of moves which Smogon lacks and PO has is 696 long, Smogon has 260 moves which PO does not The list of moves which Smogon has and Veekun lacks is 1086, and there are 122 which Veekun has which are missing from Smogon. These differences must be checked against other dexes, lists of event Pokemon, lists of pre evo moves (since veekun lacked the last two), and for those which are not cleared up by the previous methods the game itself. If you wish to generate a list which is accurate as the one I am working on, we will need to scoop info from Bulbapedia and Psydex and various event guides (I can provide you with links to all trusted sources if you require them) since they have also proven very useful in identifying errors (even though they both contain errors, they are a different set of errors). Then compare all of the sources, and finally still have a significant list of moves which should be verified ingame. The alternative is to rerip the moves, or I continue with the learnset checking I am doing and have people contribute to this thread and the sticky just above it which already has a large number of corrections suggested in it (many unverified, but I'll check them once the table has been looked through). If you wish to automate it further, please do. It would be great to have more sources in a format which can be used for automated comparison. Edit: Brought it up to 508 confirmed corrections to Smogon. Edit 2: Checked another 130 moves this morning, only found just over a dozen errors on Smogon mixed in with them. __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted. Last edited by eric the espeon; Sep 16th, 2010 at 7:43:40 PM.

Sep 29th, 2010, 6:27:56 PM	#11
*Wild Eep Iron Bahbs Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,603 Vine Trip Mentor	Code: Togepi: Helping Hand Togetic: Helping Hand Togekiss: Helping Hand Everybody knows the XD Togepi gets Tri Attack, but they also forget that it is also the only way to get Helping Hand on the Togepi family. __________________

Sep 15th, 2010, 5:49:09 PM	#5
*Cathy* Administrator** Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,051	Comparing Smogon to Veekun can be done automatically, if there are actually a huge number of differences.

Sep 29th, 2010, 6:18:28 AM	#8
Rising_Dusk Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,742	Code: Togekiss: Tri Attack Togepi learns Tri Attack by being purified in Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness, and can then evolve into a Togekiss. Smogon's database lists Togepi and Togetic as correctly having the move, but Togekiss somehow must have been missed.

Sep 29th, 2010, 1:30:54 PM	#9
Rising_Dusk Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,742	Code: Nidoran-m: Head Smash Nidorino: Head Smash Nidoking: Head Smash It is a HGSS move for this evolution family, and yet somehow never got added to the database way back when. Serebii and Psypoke both confirm.

Oct 13th, 2010, 5:57:08 PM	#12
TMTRAINER Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4 Minnesota	I've looked long and hard, and this seems to be the most fitting place to post this. Code: Absol: Superpower Blaziken: Thunderpunch Swampert: Icepunch So then, while none of these moves are listed for these mons in the Smogon Dex, Blaziken and Swampert do get their punches on Lab. Absol, however, lacks the move listed in both Lab and on Smogon, and has no good coverage moves on Lab due to a lack of Superpower (the funny thing is that Absol has Superpower listed on all his sets so it logically should be listed as a move). Sources: Absol- here and here Blaziken- here Swampert- here Just a couple examples. You could also check the respective mon's pages to find the moves listed there as well. Help me out here, in the time being Absol is not very useful on Lab >.> Last edited by TMTRAINER; Oct 20th, 2010 at 1:54:13 PM. Reason: Seems to be the only fitting place to post.

Nov 2nd, 2010, 5:34:14 PM	#13
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,695	So I mostly finished gen 3, once that's done I'll start on gen 4. Keep the fixes coming, this thread will be a useful resource to check my results against. __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted.

Nov 3rd, 2010, 12:35:37 AM	#14
yiran Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 282 :3	Code: Celebi: Nasty Plot Clefable: Softboiled Well when I search the moves up they don't learn them. Are they from HGSS tutor or something? __________________ 雪花凋零残冰飞落随波逝

Nov 6th, 2010, 10:18:10 PM	#16
yiran Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 282 :3	So they don't show previous Generation Move Tutors and special moves? http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/softboiled http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/nasty_plot Well, they aren't on the list. __________________ 雪花凋零残冰飞落随波逝

Jan 12th, 2011, 3:02:38 PM	#17
Charmander Mission Complete Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,690 Great Falls, VA Mentor	the belly drum sweeper set has Pickup as the ability :/ http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/zigzagoon __________________

Jan 29th, 2011, 6:13:00 PM	#19
Mr.E im the best Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,742	http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...0&postcount=47 I no longer actually see a place I can post for older gens but that post says I should just put any of it here anyway. :( As part of my carry-over from this post, I noticed GSC Blissey's Moves tab doesn't list that it learns Counter. Again, it is a move learned through RBY TM that isn't listed in the Dex. Its second analysis even lists a Counter moveset, heh. __________________ FREE AND the Jump non ice beam cleric blissey