Garchomp (Update)

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QC: 3/3, GP: 1/2

Changes I have made :
- Deslashed Toxic (I made a mention in AC)
- Format update
- Swapped positions of CB and SD sets
- Slightly rewritten the Counters section, making a much bigger mention of Timid Lugia

*NOTE: Most of the prose is not mine. Like the Giratina-O update, I basically copy-pasted the old analysis and cut out a decent amount of unnecessary information, and then I added the changes made above. I don't know who wrote the old analysis (I have a hunch that it was Theorymon).

[Overview]

<p>Do not be fooled by Garchomp's previous status as an OU Pokémon, because Garchomp is still a force to be reckoned with, even in the Uber tier. With a Choice Scarf, Garchomp is an excellent revenge killer that can stop sweeps from both Swords Dance and Dragon Dance Rayquaza. With a Choice Band, Garchomp is a fast physical powerhouse that requires no set up. Given that chance though, Garchomp can use Swords Dance to become a sweeper that can bring even Bold Lugia to its knees, single-handedly crumpling the Uber metagame with its mighty STAB Outrage. Give Garchomp the chance to sweep, and it will respond quickly with devastation, leaving only dust in its wake.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Outrage
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Dragon Claw
move 4: Stone Edge
item: Choice Scarf
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Choice Scarf Garchomp is an excellent revenge killer and cleaner in the Uber environment. Thanks to its base 102 Speed, Garchomp can easily outrun and revenge kill almost every other Dragon-type used in Ubers. Choice Scarf Garchomp is also one of the few things that can revenge kill both Dragon Dance and Swords Dance Rayquaza, thanks to its good defenses and higher Speed. Note that if Garchomp is a team's main method of dealing with Swords Dance Rayquaza, it is advisable to try keeping Garchomp at near full health until it has KOed it, as a Swords Danced, Life Orb Adamant Rayquaza deals 80%-94% to Garchomp with ExtremeSpeed and may KO it if it has previously taken any residual damage.</p>

<p>Outrage is important for this set, because Garchomp does not have the power of Choice Band to boost its attacks, Outrage's STAB and 120 Base Power help make up for the lack of a boost. STAB Earthquake is also important for coverage, taking out Steel-types such as Dialga, and Metagross. Dragon Claw is weaker than Outrage; however, it retains Garchomp's freedom to switch out of battle if the need be. Stone Edge is the best option for the final moveslot, as it is capable of OHKOing Ho-Oh and, with Stealth Rock damage, has a chance of 2HKOing Timid Lugia. A Fire-typed move can also be used in the last slot (either Fire Blast or Fire Fang) if you are bringing sun support, to do a severe amount of damage to Forretress and Scizor. Toxic can also be used in place of Stone Edge to cripple Lugia and Groudon.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>If using Dragon Claw on this set, Stealth Rock support is very important. Without Stealth Rock, Garchomp's Dragon Claw cannot OHKO Palkia or Rayquaza. Steel-types such as Forretress and Scizor, can easily switch into Garchomp's Dragon-type attacks and set up entry hazards or attack, while Lugia and Deoxys-D can also switch into any attack and wall Garchomp. Because of these checks, support Dialga can be a fantastic teammate for Choice Scarf Garchomp, resisting most of the Steel-type Pokémon's attacks, and with the ability to either OHKO them with Fire Blast or set up Stealth Rock. Dialga can also cripple Lugia and Deoxys-D with Toxic. Choice Specs Kyogre can be a very useful teammate as well. Not only does Choice Specs Kyogre easily OHKO most of Garchomp's checks with its STAB, but Choice Scarf Garchomp can also revenge kill Palkia and Latias, or switch into Thunders aimed at Kyogre in return. Finally, Wobbuffet can easily switch into any of Garchomp's attacks, bar Outrage (which only has a 22% chance of 2HKOing 28 HP / 228 Def neutral natured Wobbuffet with Leftovers, even after switching into Stealth Rock), and KO with Counter. There isn't much that can be done to solve this, beyond predicting a Wobbuffet switch-in, because Garchomp will be trapped, due to Wobbuffet's Shadow Tag ability. Darkrai and Taunt Mewtwo can use Wobbuffet as set up bait, so using them alongside Garchomp is not a bad idea.</p>

[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Outrage / Dragon Claw
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Stone Edge / Fire Fang
item: Life Orb / Haban Berry
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Garchomp's main advantage over Rayquaza, as a Swords Dancer, is its Speed. Seven base points may not seem like much, but outspeeding Hasty Palkia is invaluable. It also gives Garchomp a chance of decimating most Latias who don't invest heavily in Speed. The lack of ExtremeSpeed is rather unfortunate for Garchomp, but with its bulk, typing, and ability, it's still very viable. Immunity to Thunder also allows Garchomp to potentially switch into Choice Specs Kyogre and obtain a free Swords Dance while Kyogre switches out.</p>

<p>After a Swords Dance, and with the power boost of Life Orb, Garchomp is nearly unstoppable offensively; being able to outspeed a large portion of the Uber metagame and outright OHKO even Support Groudon, one of the most physically defensive Pokémon in the tier, after 3 layers of Spikes and Stealth Rock. This, added to a STAB Earthquake with which to wreck grounded Steel-types, such as Dialga and Metagross, that are able to take a boosted Outrage, and you'll realize that there are very few Pokémon left that can be relied on to defeat Garchomp.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Some other item options that also work well when using Swords Dance Garchomp are Haban and Yache Berry; the former allows Garchomp survive any Dragon-type move from a faster Dragon-type Pokémon, bar Draco Meteors from Soul Dew Latias and Latios, and KO them, while the latter works in a similar manner, but with Ice-type attacks. It is worth noting that Garchomp is still OHKOed by a Choice Specs Kyogre's Ice Beam even with a Yache Berry. Also note that OHKOs on Groudon and Lugia are lost if you use any other item besides Life Orb, and will require entry hazard support to be reattained.</p>

<p>Dragon Claw is a useful option over Outrage if being locked into one move is a problem for you. The Base Power is an issue, however, and it can lose some important KOs; for example, Giratina is only 2HKOed by Dragon Claw after a Swords Dance, but an Outrage with the same boosts easily OHKOes it. If you are using Life Orb, this will become less of an issue, because it will often resecure such KOs with Stealth Rock support. Fire Fang is an option over Stone Edge if your team has ways of dealing with Lugia, as Fire Fang can OHKO Forretress and Scizor, as well as Skarmory with Stealth Rock, if it is not raining.</p>

<p>Wobbuffet is an excellent teammate for Swords Dance Garchomp for a number of reasons. Thanks to Shadow Tag, Wobbuffet can trap and KO Choice Scarfed Dragon-types with either Mirror Coat or Counter, eliminating one of the main barriers to Garchomp's sweep. Wobbuffet can also help Garchomp set up a Swords Dance with Encore. Additionally, Wobbuffet can use Tickle to lower Lugia's Defense. After two Tickles, Choice Band Tyranitar can OHKO Lugia with Pursuit as it switches. With Lugia gone, Garchomp will have a much easier time sweeping, and can more comfortably opt to run Fire Fang. Scizor is a helpful partner that can beat offensive Mewtwo who lack Fire-type moves. Choice Scarf Heracross and Sleep Talk Kyogre can switch into the faster Darkrai's Dark Void. Even with Garchomp's 102 base Speed, many Ubers still can outspeed and OHKO it. Therefore, paralysis support can be helpful for stopping faster foes from disrupting its sweep. This is especially true when Garchomp is not running a type-resist Berry. Lugia is a good choice for paralysis support, as it often lures in Mewtwo and Darkrai, and can promptly cripple them with Thunder Wave. Thunder Wave Kyogre is another good choice, because it can lure in Choice Scarf Palkia and Latias.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Band
move 1: Outrage
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Dragon Claw
move 4: Stone Edge
item: Choice Band
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Garchomp makes a fantastic user of Choice Band in the Uber environment. With 333 Speed and 538 Attack, not a whole lot can switch into this set safely. Opponents expecting the Choice Scarf variant will be surprised when Earthquake 2HKOes many of the set's common switch-ins, particularly Scizor and Wobbuffet. Earthquake will also OHKO most Dialga (unless it has used Bulk Up once) and any other grounded Steel-type in Ubers. Outrage is an excellent clean-up attack to use once the main threats to Garchomp have been eliminated, and can even 2HKO Support Groudon after Stealth Rock. Outrage should always be used with extreme caution though, because once it is used, Garchomp cannot switch out and is forced to use it repeatedly.</p>

<p>Stone Edge is Garchomp's best move against Lugia, and although Garchomp should not square off against Timid Lugia, Bold Lugia will be 2HKOed by Stone Edge after Stealth Rock. As with the Choice Scarf set, Dragon Claw is useful for finishing off weakened Pokémon without any of the issues of the other moves.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>This set has issues with faster Pokémon with super effective moves; specifically Mewtwo, Darkrai, Latias, Latios, and any Dragon-type with a Choice Scarf. The Uber Trapper Scizor is a good Pokémon to use to deal with these threats, as it is able to switch into any Choiced Dragon-type move, and then Roost away the damage, predict a switch and use Pursuit, or use U-turn to scout the next switch-in. Scizor can also beat Darkrai if Sleep Clause is in effect, in addition to checking offensive Mewtwo and Latias that lack a Fire-type move or Thunder. Heracross is another viable teammate for Choice Band Garchomp, because Heracross can absorb Darkrai's Dark Void and also switch into a defensive Mewtwo's Will-O-Wisp, thanks to its ability, Guts. Finally, Choice Band Tyranitar can easily defeat both Latias and Latios, thanks to the Special Defense boost granted by Sand Stream. The sandstorm it brings also makes Choice Band Garchomp harder to beat, thanks to the evasion boost that Sand Veil grants it.</p>

[SET]
name: SubSalac
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Dragon Claw / Outrage
move 4: Earthquake
item: Salac Berry
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
ivs: 30 HP

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set allows Garchomp to safely Swords Dance without as much prediction, thanks to Substitute. Behind the Substitute, feel free to use Swords Dance until the Substitute breaks. Once the Substitute is broken, repeat the process until the Salac Berry activates, then Garchomp is ready to sweep. Dragon Claw allows Garchomp to switch attacks, ensuring that Garchomp is not stopped cold by most Steels. Outrage is still a worthwhile secondary choice, however. Because Garchomp will be at low HP after the Salac Berry activates, Outrage is worth considering due to its higher Base Power over Dragon Claw. Even with a Swords Dance, there are a number of Pokémon Garchomp will still be unable to KO with either of its other attacking moves. Outrage offers the strongest alternative possible, at the risk of being walled after using it. Whichever Dragon-type attack you choose, Earthquake is the best move to pair with it, offering the most additional coverage and STAB. Stone Edge isn't worth considering on this set; you lose the guaranteed OHKO on Lugia, but Dragon and Ground offer far superior coverage than any other combination, and you still maintain a slim chance of OHKOing Lugia with Outrage after Stealth Rock damage.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Much like the Swords Dance set, SubSalac Garchomp has a much easier time sweeping with Wobbuffet as a teammate. Bold Lugia can use his combination of Reflect, Roost, and Ice Beam to defeat Garchomp, since Garchomp is no longer using Stone Edge. Choice Band Tyranitar will easily KO a fleeing Lugia after Wobbuffet Tickles it twice, providing Garchomp with a much easier opportunity at sweeping. Wobbuffet can also use Encore to help Garchomp set up, while Tyranitar's Sand Stream will boost its evasion, making it even more difficult to take down.</p>

<p>Due to Garchomp using Substitute to lower its HP for a Speed boost, users of priority moves can be a problem after Garchomp's Substitute is broken. The main users of priority moves in Ubers are Rayquaza, the Deoxys formes, Scizor, and Lucario. It is best that these threats are KOed before you try and set up SubSalac Garchomp. Choice Scarf Magnezone can be a useful teammate because of this, as it can revenge kill Rayquaza who lacks a Speed boost and trap Lucario and Scizor. However, Groudon can easily set up on Magnezone locked into Thunder. When using Magnezone, rain or sun support are welcome additions to boost Thunder and Hidden Power Fire respectively. Gengar is a great teammate for Garchomp as well. Gengar can easily lure in Scizor and OHKO it with Hidden Power Fire. Gengar also has the option of using Hidden Power Ice to OHKO Rayquaza. With Stealth Rock support, Rayquaza will be OHKOed by Life Orb Gengar's Icy Wind as well, allowing the use of Hidden Power Fire with it.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Stealth Rock should always be used on a team with Garchomp, because it turns 2HKOs on powerful threats, like Palkia and Rayquaza, into OHKOs with an unboosted Dragon Claw. Additionally, Swords Dance Garchomp without Life Orb has a 79% chance of KOing 252 HP / 52 Defense Bold Lugia with Stone Edge, if Stealth Rock is present. In general, all Garchomp sets enjoy sandstorm, because the evasion boost from Sand Veil allows Garchomp to avoid a move that would ordinarily KO it, potentially netting it an extra kill. The only Sand Stream Pokémon who is viable in Ubers is Tyranitar, who is an excellent teammate with Garchomp. Tyranitar can beat Latios and Latias with a Pursuit boosted from Choice Band. With an EV spread of 252 HP / 56 Atk / 200 SpD and a Careful nature, Tyranitar can survive any special attack from Mewtwo (including a +1 Aura Sphere) and OHKO it with a Choice Banded Crunch.</p>

<p>Garchomp will have problems sweeping when Timid Lugia or faster Pokémon with either Ice- or Dragon-type moves are around. Kyogre is therefore a great teammate since it can take on Lugia, Darkrai (With Rest and Sleep Talk), and Steel-types with ease. Choice Scarf Garchomp can also revenge kill the most common switch-ins to Choice Specs Kyogre who are Latias and Palkia. A specially defensive Scizor can switch into any of Mewtwo’s attacks except Fire Blast, and threaten it with a STAB U-turn. Deoxys-A is also easily dealt with by Scizor, as Scizor can switch in and either Pursuit Deoxys-A as it switches out or OHKO it with Bullet Punch. Wobbuffet can switch in on Choice Scarfed moves from Pokémon like Dialga and Palkia, and use either Mirror Coat or Counter to KO them. Support Groudon can easily lure Lugia and cripple it with Toxic or Thunder Wave, thus Garchomp will then have an easier time sweeping. As a bonus, Groudon can also set up Stealth Rock.</p>

<p>Generally, the best defensive teammates for Garchomp resist its two weaknesses, Ice- and Dragon-type moves. Kyogre is an excellent teammate defensively, because Kyogre not only resists Ice-type attacks, but Garchomp is also immune to Kyogre's most exploited weakness, Thunder. Once again, Scizor is an excellent teammate defensively, as Scizor resists both Dragon- and Ice-type attacks, while Garchomp resists Scizor's Fire-type weakness. In a similar manner, Metagross resists Garchomp's weaknesses, while having the ability to use a Choice Scarf to revenge kill problem Pokémon with Explosion.</p>

<p>Lugia's only common partners that give Garchomp any trouble are Darkrai and Palkia (both of whom have trouble with Choice Scarf Garchomp). Choice Band Scizor can switch into Palkia's Dragon-type attacks, and do massive damage with U-turn. Additionally, Scizor can switch into Darkrai once the Sleep Clause is triggered and 2HKO it with Bullet Punch. Thankfully, the most common teammates for problem Pokémon and Darkrai are all Pokémon whom Garchomp can handle with at least one of its sets (mainly Kyogre, Palkia, Groudon, Dialga, and Rayquaza). For example, Choice Scarf Garchomp easily OHKOes Palkia and Rayquaza with Outrage. Dialga is easily OHKOed by Choice Band Garchomp's Earthquake, while Groudon is 2HKOed by a Choice Banded Outrage. Additionally, a common tactic against Choiced Garchomp is to send in a Steel-type to take an Outrage. The most common Pokémon seen doing this are Scizor and Forretress. Common partners for Forretress that have not been mentioned yet are Giratina and Blissey. Garchomp easily 2HKOes Giratina with Outrage, and Blissey is never going to stay in on Garchomp. Scizor's most common partners are actually nearly identical to Lugia's.</p>

[Optional Changes]

<p>Garchomp’s movepool isn’t massive compared to other Uber Pokemon. The moves listed are best choices for Garchomp in most scenarios.</p>

<p>On the Choice Band or Choice Scarf sets, Crunch is a reasonable option over Stone Edge. Crunch can still 2HKO Lugia on the Choice Band set, while giving Garchomp a safer alternative against the omnipresent Psychic-types in Ubers. Given that Garchomp has better overall defenses than Swampert, running a defensive set that utilizes Rest and Sleep Talk or Stealth Rock may seem like a viable option, but Dialga is generally the better choice for this, as Dialga has no 4x weaknesses and has better defenses than Garchomp.</p>

[Counters]

<p>Timid Lugia is the best check for Garchomp. It can live by using Reflect, Roosting off the damage, and scaring Garchomp off with Ice Beam. However, Timid Lugia needs to watch out for Choice Scarf Garchomp's Stone Edge, as it will be 2HKOed after Stealth Rock. Groudon must invest heavily in HP and Defense in order to be a buffer against Garchomp. Unfortunately, Groudon is still at risk of being 2HKOed from a Swords Danced Outrage, while Thunder Wave will not paralyze Garchomp, thanks to its Ground-typing. Cresselia can easily switch into Garchomp that lack Swords Dance and retaliate with Ice Beam. Moonlight's recovery is boosted by Groudon's Drought, allowing Cresselia to more efficiently take hits from Garchomp. Skarmory and Bronzong can switch into Garchomp, especially because the vast majority of Garchomp lack Fire Fang or Fire Blast. Metagross can switch into a locked Outrage and KO Garchomp with Ice Punch.</p>

<p>Many Pokémon can rely on their high Speed in order to revenge kill Garchomp. Keep in mind that the Choice Scarf set is an exception. Mewtwo, Darkrai, and Deoxys-A carry moves that threaten to OHKO Garchomp. Mewtwo commonly has Ice Beam to dispose of Garchomp quickly and also access to Will-O-Wisp and Reflect. A combination of Darkrai's STAB Dark Pulse, Dark Void, and Bad Dreams will usually force Garchomp to switch out. Deoxys-A can easily scare Garchomp off with Ice Beam, but cannot switch into Garchomp at all. Deoxys-S can always outpace Garchomp, with enough Speed investment, and bring it down with Ice Beam. For the non Choice Scarf sets, Latios, Latias, and Choice Scarf Dragon Pokémon can revenge kill Garchomp. This can be risky though, because Haban Berry Garchomp will survive any of the faster Dragon-type attacks, bar a Draco Meteor from Soul Dew Latios or Latias. For any user of Ice Beam, 269 Special Attack minimum is required in order to OHKO Garchomp.</p>

<p>Sand Veil makes countering Garchomp difficult. Because Sand Veil reduces Ice Beam's accuracy to 80%, it may sometimes miss, resulting in Garchomp gaining a KO. Dark Void suffers an accuracy cut from 80% to 64%. Thankfully, Rayquaza's Air Lock prevents Sand Veil from screwing up ExtremeSpeed's accuracy.</p>
 

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Well, I'd at least put the SubSalac set in AC, I have used it to some success. It can be used along with something like Magnezone, which can trap and kill scizor, the most common priority move user in ubers (I think)....
 

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I would like Yache deslashed from the Swords Dance set and relegated to AC at the best. Haban is so much more useful in nearly every senario (compared to Yache at least). On the note of SubSalac, the general opinion was to keep it, so I guess just leave that. I would also like an added sentence or two for the Swords Dance set on how useful paralysis support can when you are using Life Orb. It mentions paralysis support as it is, but nothing about it specifically in conjunction with Life Orb. I would also like a sentence about how Life Orb's power is worth it, as most people seem to only use Haban. For instance, with Life Orb, Garchomp can 2HKO 252/252+ Groudon with +2 Earthquake, even through Leftovers.

I know a lot of this will have to wait until you actually write it, and I'm not sure if this actually needs a stamp, but here it is anyway provided you make/address these comments.



QC approved 1/3.


edit @tripe: I agree Haban should still be slashed first, but I think Life Orb should still be noted in the analysis a bit more. I also think we should get the content issues hammered out before worrying about order. Order is mainly based on useage anyways.

edit #2: I deslashed Yache on the Swords Dance set, it needs to be cached before it shows up, but its done. Yache is already mentioned in AC so that's all taken care of.
 
Swords Dance should be the first set, as the scarf set isn't that effective. It maybe the most popular, but honestly Palkia can outspeed almost everything Garchomp can. Yache Berry is Ac material at best, as Garchomp can't survive an Ice beam from Kyogre even with the berry. The berry is used for mostly for Mewtwo, which Garchomp shouldn't be taking on anyways, and contrary to popular belief, Garchomp doesn't need Yache to live through Lugia's ice beam at all. Life orb should be 2nd slash, as Haban allows Garchomp to beat scarf Palkia and some Latias, which is more important than 2hkoing Support Groudon imo.
 
Can we have more discussion about the fire blast slash?
It's utterly useless imo, especially on the swords dance set. Choiced sets are better off using Claw or Outrage, since they do far more damage than Fire blast especially to Palkia and Rayquaza, which is the main opponents for choiced Garchomp. Dialga will take more from an Earthquake than a fire blast. Scizor is 2hkoed by scarf Earthquake, while bullet punch doesn't ohko. Lugia also laughs at Fire blast. Scarf chomp should not be attempting to damage Forretress or Groudon anyways, Fire blast doesn't even Ohko Forretress without sun, and does roughly the same damage as a stab eq in the rain. Banded Earthquake will easily 2hko anyways. Scarf Fire Fang will also 2hko easily, and Banded will ohko.
 

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Okay, I've finished the update. It really wasn't much, so it should be quick to go through QC and GP.
 

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Sorry this kinda got shafted because of 5th gen, make sure you get people to help get this done.
 

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[Overview]

<p>Do not be fooled by Garchomp’s previous status as an OU Pokémon, because Garchomp is still a force to be reckoned with even in the Uber tier. With a Choice Scarf, Garchomp is an excellent revenge killer that can stop sweeps from both Swords Dance and Dragon Dance Rayquaza. With a Choice Band, Garchomp is a fast physical powerhouse that requires no set up time. Given that chance though, Garchomp can use Swords Dance to become a physical sweeper that can fell even Bold Lugia, single-handedly crumpling the Uber metagame with its mighty STAB Outrage, as there are very few Pokémon who resist Dragon-type moves in the tier. Give Garchomp the chance to sweep, and it will respond quickly with devastation, leaving only dust in its wake.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Outrage
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Dragon Claw
move 4: Stone Edge
item: Choice Scarf
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Choice Scarf Garchomp is an excellent revenge killer and cleaner in the Uber environment. Thanks to its base 102 Speed and Choice Scarf, Garchomp can easily outrun and revenge kill almost every other Dragon-type Pokémon used in Ubers. Choice Scarf Garchomp is also one of the few things that can revenge kill both Dragon Dance Rayquaza and Swords Dance Rayquaza, thanks to its good defenses and higher Speed. (Note that if Garchomp is a team's main method of dealing with Swords Dance Rayquaza, it is advisable to try keeping Garchomp at near full health until it has KOed it, as a Swords Danced, Life Orb Adamant Rayquaza deals 80%-94% to Garchomp with ExtremeSpeed and may KO it if it has previously taken any residual damage)</p>

<p>Outrage is important for this set, because Garchomp does not have the power of Choice Band to boost its attacks; Outrage's STAB and 120 Base Power help make up for the lack of a boost. STAB Earthquake is also important for coverage, taking out Steel-types such as Dialga, and Metagross, and other Steel-types in Ubers. Dragon Claw is weaker than Outrage; however, it gives Garchomp the ability to attack with a reliable Dragon-type move and retains Garchomp's the freedom to switch. Stone Edge is the best option for the final moveslot, as it is capable of OHKOing Ho-Oh and, with Stealth Rock damage, having a chance to 2HKOing Timid Lugia. A Fire move can also be used in the last slot (either Fire Blast or Fire Fang) if you are bringing sun support, to do a severe amount of damage to Forretress and Scizor. Toxic can also be used in place of Stone Edge to cripple Lugia and Groudon.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>If using Dragon Claw on this set, Stealth Rock support is very important. Without Stealth Rock, Garchomp's Dragon Claw cannot OHKO Palkia or Rayquaza. Steel-types such as Forretress and Scizor, can easily switch into Garchomp's Dragon-type attacks and set up entry hazards or attack, while Lugia and Deoxys-D can also switch into any attack and wall Garchomp. Because of these checks, support Dialga can be a fantastic teammate for Choice Scarf Garchomp, resisting most of the Steel-type Pokémon's attacks, and with the ability to either OHKO them with Fire Blast or set up Stealth Rock. Dialga can also cripple Lugia and Deoxys-D with Toxic. Choice Specs Kyogre can be a very useful teammate as well. Not only does Choice Specs Kyogre easily OHKO most of Garchomp's checks with its STAB, but Choice Scarf Garchomp can also revenge kill Palkia and Latias or switch into their Thunders aimed at Kyogre in return. Finally, Wobbuffet can easily switch into any of Garchomp's attacks, bar Outrage (which only has a 22% chance of 2HKOing 28 HP/228 Def neutral-nature Wobbuffet with Leftovers, even after switching into Stealth Rock), and KO with Counter. There isn't much that can be done to solve this, beyond predicting a Wobbuffet switch-in, because Garchomp will be trapped, due to Wobbuffet's Shadow Tag ability.</p>
 

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<p>Outrage is important for this set, because Garchomp does not have the power of Choice Band to boost its attacks; Outrage's STAB and 120 Base Power help make up for the lack of a boost. STAB Earthquake is also important for coverage, taking out Steel-types such as Dialga, and Metagross, and other Steel-types in Ubers. Dragon Claw is weaker than Outrage; however, it gives Garchomp the ability to attack with a reliable Dragon-type move and retains Garchomp's the freedom to switch. Stone Edge is the best option for the final moveslot, as it is capable of OHKOing Ho-Oh and, with Stealth Rock damage, having a chance to 2HKOing Timid Lugia. A Fire move can also be used in the last slot (either Fire Blast or Fire Fang) if you are bringing sun support, to do a severe amount of damage to Forretress and Scizor. Toxic can also be used in place of Stone Edge to cripple Lugia and Groudon.</p>
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[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Outrage / Dragon Claw
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Stone Edge / Fire Fang
item: Life Orb / Haban Berry
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>Garchomp's main advantage over Rayquaza, as a Swords Dancer, is its Speed. Seven base points may not seem like much, but outspeeding Hasty Palkia is invaluable. It also gives Garchomp a chance of decimating most Latias who don't invest heavily in Speed. The lack of ExtremeSpeed is rather unfortunate for Garchomp, but with its bulk, typing, and ability, it's still very viable. Immunity to Thunder also allows Garchomp to potentially switch into Choice Specs Kyogre and obtain a free Swords Dance while Kyogre switches out.</p> (moved)

<p>After a Swords Dance, and with the power boost of Life Orb, Garchomp is nearly unstoppable offensively; being able to outspeed a large portion of the Uber metagame and can outright OHKO even Support Groudon, one of the most physically defensive Pokemon in the tier, after 3 layers of Spikes and Stealth Rock with Outrage. (felt this was more impressive a feat) This, added to a STAB Earthquake with which to wreck grounded Steel-types, such as Dialga and Metagross, that are able to take a boosted Outrage, and you'll realize that there are very few Pokemon left that can be relied on to defeat Garchomp.</p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>Some other item options that also work well when using Swords Dance Garchomp are Haban and Yache Berry; the former allows Garchomp survive any Dragon-type move from a faster Dragon-type Pokémon, bar Draco Meteors from Latias and Latios, and KO them, while the latter works in a similar manner, but with Ice-type attacks. It is worth noting that Garchomp is still OHKOed by a Choice Specs Kyogre's Ice Beam even with a Yache Berry. Also note that the OHKOs on Groudon and Lugia are lost if you use any other item besides Life Orb, and will require entry hazard support to be reattained.</p>

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Dragon Claw is a useful option over Outrage if being locked in is a problem for you. The Base Power is an issue, however, and it can lose some important KOs; for example, Giratina is only 2HKOed by Dragon Claw after a Swords Dance, but an Outrage with the same boosts easily OHKOes it. If you are using Life Orb, this will become less of an issue, because it will often resecure such KOs with Stealth Rock support. Fire Fang is an option over Stone Edge if your team has additional ways of dealing with Lugia, as Fire Fang can OHKO Forretress and Scizor, as well as Skarmory with Stealth Rock, if it is not raining.</p>

<p>Wobbuffet is an excellent teammate for Swords Dance Garchomp for a number of reasons. Thanks to Shadow Tag, Wobbuffet can trap and KO Choice Scarfed Dragon-types with either Mirror Coat or Counter, eliminating one of the main barriers to Garchomp's sweep. Wobbuffet can also help Garchomp set up a Swords Dance with Encore. Additionally, Wobbuffet can use Tickle to lower Lugia's Defense. After two Tickles, Choice Band Tyranitar can OHKO Lugia with Pursuit as it switches. With Lugia gone, Garchomp will have a much easier time sweeping, and can more comfortably opt to run Fire Fang. Much like with Choice Band Garchomp, Scizor is a helpful partner that can beat offensive Mewtwo who lack Fire-type moves. Choice Scarf Heracross and Sleep Talk Kyogre can switch into the faster Darkrai's Dark Void. Even with Garchomp's 102 base Speed, many Ubers still can outspeed and OHKO it, therefore, paralysis support can be helpful for stopping faster foes from disrupting its sweep. This is especially when Garchomp is not running a type-resist berry. Lugia is a good choice for paralysis support, as it often lures in Mewtwo and Darkrai, and so can then promptly cripple them with Thunder Wave. Thunder Wave Kyogre is another good choice, because it can lure in Choice Scarf Palkia and Latias.</p>
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[SET]
name: Choice Band
move 1: Outrage
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Stone Edge
move 4: Dragon Claw
item: Choice Band
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>Garchomp makes a fantastic user of Choice Band in the Uber environment. With 333 Speed and 538 Attack, not a whole lot can switch into this set safely. Opponents may be expecting the Choice Scarf variant, will also be surprised when Earthquake 2HKOes many of the set's common switch-ins such as Scizor and Wobbuffet. Earthquake will also OHKO most Dialga (unless it has used Bulk Up once) and any other grounded Steel-type in Ubers. Outrage is an excellent clean-up attack to use once the main threats to Garchomp have been eliminated. For example, Outrage can even, able to 2HKO even Support Groudon after they take damage from Stealth Rock. Outrage should always be used with extreme caution though, because once it is used, Garchomp cannot switch out and is forced to use it repeatedly.</p>

<p>Stone Edge is Garchomp's best move against Lugia, and although Garchomp should not square off against Timid Lugia, Bold Lugia will be 2HKOed by Stone Edge after Stealth Rock. As with the Choice Scarf set, Dragon Claw is useful for finishing off weakened Pokémon without any of the issues of the other moves.</p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>This set has issues with faster Pokémon who can revenge kill it with super effective moves; specifically Mewtwo, Darkrai, Latias, Latios, and any Dragon-type Pokémon with a Choice Scarf. The Uber Trapper Scizor with 176 EVs in both Special Defense and HP is a good Pokemon to use to deal with these threats, as it is able to switch into any of the Choiced Dragon-type moves, and then Roost away the damage, predict a switch and use Pursuit, or use U-turn to scout the next switch-in. Scizor can also beat Darkrai, if Sleep Clause is in effect, in addition to checking offensive Mewtwo and Latias that lack a Fire-type move or Thunder. Heracross is another viable teammate for Choice Band Garchomp, because Heracross can absorb Darkrai's Dark Voids and can also switch into a defensive Mewtwo's Will-O-Wisp, thanks to its ability, Guts. Finally, Choice Band Tyranitar can easily defeat both Latias and Latios, thanks to the Special Defense boost granted by Sand Stream. The sandstorm it brings also makes Choice Band Garchomp harder to beat, thanks to the evasion boost that Sand Veil gives it.</p>
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shrang, can you take a look at Aeron's next check and implement at least some of the changes. I say at least some of them, because while I don't agree with all of them, he did catch some crucial mistakes.

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[Overview]

<p>Do not be fooled by Garchomp’s's (correct apostrophe) previous status as an OU Pokémon, because Garchomp is still a force to be reckoned with even in the Uber tier. With a Choice Scarf, Garchomp is an excellent revenge killer that can stop sweeps from both Swords Dance and Dragon Dance Rayquaza. With a Choice Band, Garchomp is a fast physical powerhouse that requires no set up. Given that chance though, Garchomp can use Swords Dance to become a sweeper that can fell can bring even Bold Lugia to its knees, single-handedly crumpling the Uber metagame with its mighty STAB Outrage. Give Garchomp the chance to sweep, and it will respond quickly with devastation, leaving only dust in its wake.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Outrage
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Dragon Claw
move 4: Stone Edge
item: Choice Scarf
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Choice Scarf Garchomp is an excellent revenge killer and cleaner in the Uber environment. Thanks to its base 102 Speed, Garchomp can easily outrun and revenge kill almost every other Dragon-type used in Ubers. Choice Scarf Garchomp is also one of the few things that can revenge kill both Dragon Dance and Swords Dance Rayquaza, thanks to its good defenses and higher Speed. (Note that if Garchomp is a team's main method of dealing with Swords Dance Rayquaza, it is advisable to try keeping Garchomp at near full health until it has KOed it, as a Swords Danced, Life Orb Adamant Rayquaza deals 80%-94% to Garchomp with ExtremeSpeed and may KO it if it has previously taken any residual damage). (period)</p>

<p>Outrage is important for this set, because Garchomp does not have the power of Choice Band to boost its attacks; Outrage's STAB and 120 Base Power help make up for the lack of a boost. STAB Earthquake is also important for coverage, taking out Steel-types, (comma) such as Dialga, (remove comma) and Metagross. Dragon Claw is weaker than Outrage; however, it retains Garchomp's freedom to switch out of battle if the need be. Stone Edge is the best option for the final moveslot, as it is capable of OHKOing Ho-Oh and, with Stealth Rock damage, having a chance to of 2HKOing Timid Lugia. A Fire move can also be used in the last slot, (comma) (either Fire Blast or Fire Fang) if you are bringing sun support, to do a severe amount of damage to Forretress and Scizor. Toxic can also be used in place of Stone Edge to cripple Lugia and Groudon.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>If using Dragon Claw on this set, Stealth Rock support is very important. Without Stealth Rock, Garchomp's Dragon Claw cannot OHKO Palkia or Rayquaza. Steel-types such as Forretress and Scizor, can easily switch into Garchomp's Dragon-type attacks and set up entry hazards or attack, while Lugia and Deoxys-D can also switch into any attack and wall Garchomp. Because of these checks, support Dialga can be a fantastic teammate for Choice Scarf Garchomp, resisting most of the Steel-type Pokémon's attacks, and with the ability to either OHKO them with Fire Blast or set up Stealth Rock. Dialga can also cripple Lugia and Deoxys-D with Toxic. Choice Specs Kyogre can be a very useful teammate as well. Not only does Choice Specs Kyogre easily OHKO most of Garchomp's checks with its STAB, but Choice Scarf Garchomp can also revenge kill Palkia and Latias, (comma) or switch into Thunders aimed at Kyogre in return. Finally, Wobbuffet can easily switch into any of Garchomp's attacks, bar Outrage (which only has a 22% chance of 2HKOing 28 HP (space) / (space) 228 Def neutral-natured (remove hyphen) Wobbuffet with Leftovers, even after switching into Stealth Rock), and KO with Counter. There isn't much that can be done to solve this, beyond predicting a Wobbuffet switch-in, because Garchomp will be trapped, due to Wobbuffet's Shadow Tag ability.</p>

(You should probably mention a teammate at the end that can take advantage of Wobbuffet (Taunt Mewtwo mayhaps)).

[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Outrage / Dragon Claw
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Stone Edge / Fire Fang
item: Life Orb / Haban Berry
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[Set Comments SET COMMENTS]

<p>Garchomp's main advantage over Rayquaza, as a Swords Dancer, is its Speed. Seven base points may not seem like much, but outspeeding Hasty Palkia is invaluable. It also gives Garchomp a chance of decimating most Latias who don't invest heavily in Speed. The lack of ExtremeSpeed is rather unfortunate for Garchomp, but with its bulk, typing, and ability, it's still very viable. Immunity to Thunder also allows Garchomp to potentially switch into Choice Specs Kyogre and obtain a free Swords Dance while Kyogre switches out.</p>

<p>After a Swords Dance, and with the power boost of Life Orb, Garchomp is nearly unstoppable offensively; being able to outspeed a large portion of the Uber metagame and outright OHKO even Support Groudon, one of the most physically defensive Pokemon (add accent on e) in the tier, after 3 layers of Spikes and Stealth Rock. This, added to a STAB Earthquake with which to wreck grounded Steel-types, such as Dialga and Metagross, that are able to take a boosted Outrage, and you'll realize that there are very few Pokemon left that can be relied on to defeat Garchomp.</p>

[Additional CommentsADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Some other item options that also work well when using Swords Dance Garchomp are Haban and Yache Berry; the former allows Garchomp survive any Dragon-type move from a faster Dragon-type Pokémon, bar Draco Meteors from Soul Dew Latias and Latios, and KO them, while the latter works in a similar manner, but with Ice-type attacks. It is worth noting that Garchomp is still OHKOed by a Choice Specs Kyogre's Ice Beam even with a Yache Berry. Also note that OHKOs on Groudon and Lugia are lost if you use any other item besides Life Orb, and will require entry hazard support to be reattained.</p>

<p>Dragon Claw is a useful option over Outrage if being locked into one move is a problem for you. The Base Power is an issue, however, and it can lose some important KOs; for example, Giratina is only 2HKOed by Dragon Claw after a Swords Dance, but an Outrage with the same boosts easily OHKOes it. If you are using Life Orb, this will become less of an issue, because it will often resecure such KOs with Stealth Rock support. Fire Fang is an option over Stone Edge if your team has ways of dealing with Lugia, as Fire Fang can OHKO Forretress and Scizor, as well as Skarmory with Stealth Rock, if it is not raining.</p>

<p>Wobbuffet is an excellent teammate for Swords Dance Garchomp for a number of reasons. Thanks to Shadow Tag, Wobbuffet can trap and KO Choice Scarfed Dragon-types with either Mirror Coat or Counter, eliminating one of the main barriers to Garchomp's sweep. Wobbuffet can also help Garchomp set up a Swords Dance with Encore. Additionally, Wobbuffet can use Tickle to lower Lugia's Defense. After two Tickles, Choice Band Tyranitar can OHKO Lugia with Pursuit as it switches. With Lugia gone, Garchomp will have a much easier time sweeping, and can more comfortably opt to run Fire Fang. Scizor is a helpful partner that can beat offensive Mewtwo who lack Fire-type moves. Choice Scarf Heracross and Sleep Talk Kyogre can switch into the faster Darkrai's Dark Void. Even with Garchomp's 102 base Speed, many Ubers still can outspeed and OHKO it, therefore, paralysis support can be helpful for stopping faster foes from disrupting its sweep. This is especially true when Garchomp is not running a type-resist bBerry. Lugia is a good choice for paralysis support, as it often lures in Mewtwo and Darkrai, and can promptly cripple them with Thunder Wave. Thunder Wave Kyogre is another good choice, because it can lure in Choice Scarf Palkia and Latias.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Band
move 1: Outrage
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Dragon Claw
move 4: Stone Edge
item: Choice Band
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[Set CommentsSET COMMENTS]

<p>Garchomp makes a fantastic user of Choice Band in the Uber environment. With 333 Speed and 538 Attack, not a whole lot can switch into this set safely. Opponents expecting the Choice Scarf variant will be surprised when Earthquake 2HKOes many of the set's common switch-ins, particularly such as Scizor and Wobbuffet. Earthquake will also OHKO most Dialga (unless it has used Bulk Up once) and any other grounded Steel-type in Ubers. Outrage is an excellent clean-up attack to use once the main threats to Garchomp have been eliminated, able to and can even 2HKO even Support Groudon after Stealth Rock. Outrage should always be used with extreme caution though, because once it is used, Garchomp cannot switch out and is forced to use it repeatedly.</p>

<p>Stone Edge is Garchomp's best move against Lugia, and although Garchomp should not square off against Timid Lugia, Bold Lugia will be 2HKOed by Stone Edge after Stealth Rock. As with the Choice Scarf set, Dragon Claw is useful for finishing off weakened Pokémon without any of the issues of the other moves.</p>

[Additional CommentsADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>This set has issues with faster Pokémon with super effective moves; specifically Mewtwo, Darkrai, Latias, Latios, and any Dragon-type with a Choice Scarf. The Uber Trapper Scizor is a good Pokemon to use to deal with these threats, as it is able to switch into any Choiced Dragon-type move, and then Roost away the damage, predict a switch and use Pursuit, or use U-turn to scout the next switch-in. Scizor can also beat Darkrai if Sleep Clause is in effect, in addition to checking offensive Mewtwo and Latias that lack a Fire-type move or Thunder. Heracross is another viable teammate for Choice Band Garchomp, because Heracross can absorb Darkrai's Dark Void and also switch into a defensive Mewtwo's Will-O-Wisp, thanks to its ability, Guts. Finally, Choice Band Tyranitar can easily defeat both Latias and Latios, thanks to the Special Defense boost granted by Sand Stream. The sandstorm it brings also makes Choice Band Garchomp harder to beat, thanks to the evasion boost that Sand Veil gives grants it.</p>

[SET]
name: SubSalac
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Dragon Claw / Outrage
move 4: Earthquake
item: Salac Berry
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
ivs: 30 HP

[Set CommentsSET COMMENTS]

<p>This set allows Garchomp to safely Swords Dance without as much prediction, thanks to Substitute. Behind the Substitute, feel free to use Swords Dance until the Substitute breaks. Once the Substitute is broken, repeat the process until the Salac Berry activates, then you are (I'm not totally sure on the Pokegrammar here, you aren't technically sweeping, Garchomp is. I would probably change it to "then Garchomp is ready to sweep." ready to sweep. Dragon Claw allows Garchomp to switch attacks, ensuring that Garchomp is not stopped cold by most Steels. Outrage is still a worthwhile secondary choice, however. Because Garchomp will be at low HP after the Salac Berry activates, Outrage is worth considering due to its higher Base Power over Dragon Claw. Even with a Swords Dance, there are a number of Pokemon Garchomp will still be unable to KO with either of its other attacking moves. Outrage offers the strongest alternative possible, at the risk of being walled after using it. Whichever Dragon-type attack you choose, Earthquake is the best move to pair with it, offering the most additional coverage and STAB. Stone Edge isn't worth considering on this set; you lose the guaranteed OHKO on Lugia, but Dragon and Ground offer far superior coverage than any other combination, and you still maintain a slim chance of OHKOing Lugia with Outrage after Stealth Rock damage.</p>

[Additional CommentsADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Much like the Swords Dance set., (replace period with comma) SubSalac Garchomp has a much easier time sweeping with Wobbuffet as a teammate. Bold Lugia can use his its combination of Reflect, Roost, (comma) and Ice Beam to defeat Garchomp, (comma) since Garchomp is no longer using Stone Edge. Choice Band Tyranitar will easily KO a fleeing Lugia after Wobbuffet Tickles it twice, providing Garchomp with a much easier opportunity at sweeping. Wobbuffet can also use Encore to help Garchomp set up, while Tyranitar’s's Sand Stream will boost Garchomp’s its evasion, making it even more difficult to take down.</p>

<p>Due to Garchomp using Substitute to lower its HP for a Speed boost, users of priority moves can be a problem after Garchomp’s's Substitute is broken. The main users of priority moves in Ubers are Rayquaza, the Deoxys formes, Scizor, and Lucario. It is best that these threats are KOed before you try and set up SubSalac Garchomp. Choice Scarf Magnezone can be a useful teammate because of this, as it can revenge kill Rayquaza who lacks a Speed boost and trap Lucario and Scizor. However, Groudon can easily set up on Magnezone locked into Thunder. When using Magnezone, rain or sun support are welcome additions to boost Thunder and Hidden Power Fire respectively. Gengar is a great teammate for Garchomp as well. Gengar can easily lure in Scizor,(remove comma) and OHKO it with Hidden Power Fire. Gengar also has the option of using Hidden Power Ice to OHKO Rayquaza. With Stealth Rock support, Rayquaza will be OHKOed by Life Orb Gengar's Icy Wind as well, allowing the use of Hidden Power Fire with it.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Stealth Rock should always be used on a team with Garchomp, because it turns 2HKOs on powerful threats, like Palkia and Rayquaza, into OHKOs with an unboosted Dragon Claw. Additionally, Swords Dance Garchomp without Life Orb has a 79% chance of KOing 252 HP / 52 Defense Bold Lugia with Stone Edge, if Stealth Rock is present. In general, all Garchomp sets enjoy the sandstorm, because the evasion boost from Sand Veil allows Garchomp to avoid a move that would ordinarily KO it, potentially netting it an extra kill. The only Sand Stream Pokémon who is viable in Ubers is Tyranitar, who is an excellent teammate with Garchomp. Tyranitar can beat Latios and Latias with a Pursuit boosted from Choice Band. With an EV spread of 252 HP / 56 Atk / 200 SpD and a Careful nature, Tyranitar can survive any special attack from Mewtwo (including a +1 Aura Sphere) and OHKO it with a Choice Banded Crunch.</p>

<p>Garchomp will have problems sweeping when Timid Lugia or faster Pokémon with either Ice- or Dragon-type moves are around. Kyogre is therefore a great teammate since it can take on Lugia, Darkrai (With Rest and Sleep Talk), (comma) and Steel-types with ease. Choice Scarf Garchomp can also revenge kill the most common switch-ins to Choice Specs Kyogre who are Latias and Palkia. A specially defensive Scizor can switch into any of Mewtwo’s's attacks except Fire Blast, and threaten it with a STAB U-turn. Deoxys-A is also easily dealt with by Scizor, as Scizor can switch in and either Pursuit Deoxys-A as it switches out or OHKO it with Bullet Punch. Wobbuffet can switch in on Choice Scarfed moves from Pokémon like Dialga and Palkia, and use either Mirror Coat or Counter to KO them. Support Groudon can easily lure Lugia and cripple it with Toxic or Thunder Wave, thus Garchomp will then have an easier time sweeping. As a bonus, Groudon can also set up Stealth Rock.</p>

<p>Generally, the best defensive teammates for Garchomp resist its two weaknesses, Ice- and Dragon-type moves. Kyogre is an excellent teammate defensively, because Kyogre not only resists Ice-type attacks, (comma) but Garchomp is also immune to Kyogre’s's most exploited weakness, Thunder. Once again, Scizor is an excellent teammate defensively, as Scizor resists both Dragon- and Ice-type attacks, while Garchomp resists Scizor’s's Fire-type weakness. In a similar manner, Metagross resists Garchomp’s's weaknesses, while having the ability to use a Choice Scarf to revenge kill problem Pokémon with Explosion.</p>

<p>Lugia’s's only common partners that give Garchomp any trouble are Darkrai and Palkia (both of whom have trouble with Choice Scarf Garchomp). Choice Band Scizor can switch into Palkia’s's Dragon-type attacks, and do massive damage with U-turn. Additionally, Scizor can switch into Darkrai once the Sleep cClause is triggered and 2HKO it with Bullet Punch. Thankfully, the most common teammates for problem Pokémon and Darkrai are all Pokémon whom Garchomp can handle with at least one of its sets (mainly Kyogre, Palkia, Groudon, Dialga, and Rayquaza). For example, Choice Scarf Garchomp easily OHKOes Palkia and Rayquaza with Outrage. Dialga is easily OHKOed by Choice Band Garchomp’s's Earthquake, while Groudon is 2HKOed by a Choice Banded Outrage. Additionally, a common tactic against Choiced Garchomp is to send in a Steel-type to take an Outrage. The most common Pokémon seen doing this are Scizor and Forretress. Common partners for Forretress that have not been mentioned yet are Giratina and Blissey. Garchomp easily 2HKOes Giratina with Outrage, and Blissey is never going to stay in on Garchomp. Scizor’s's most common partners are actually nearly identical to Lugia’s's.</p>

(This last paragraph seems to be going in too much detail, if that sounds odd. It felt really nostalgtic, almost like reading an analysis from the pre-concision days. I left it because there is good info there, and you didn't go overboard, but I'd refrain from going into that much detail in future analyses. Just keep it about the Pokemon, and what directly affects it.)

[Optional Changes]

<p>Garchomp’s's movepool isn’t't massive compared to other Uber Pokemon. The moves listed are best choices for Garchomp in most scenarios.</p>

<p>On the Choice Band or Choice Scarf sets, Crunch is a reasonable option over Stone Edge. Crunch can still 2HKO Lugia on the Choice Band set, while giving Garchomp a safer alternative against the omnipresent Psychic-types in Ubers. Fire Fang and Fire Blast are decent options, especially when paired with sunlight.(already stated in the AC of the sets)</p>

<p>Given that Garchomp has better overall defenses than Swampert, running a defensive set that utilizes Rest and Sleep Talk or Stealth Rock may seem like a viable option, but Dialga is generally the better choice for this, as Dialga has no 4x weaknesses and has better defenses than Garchomp.</p>
(Combine these two paragraphs into one.)

[Counters]

<p>Timid Lugia is the best check for Garchomp. It can live by using Reflect, Roosting off the damage, and scaring Garchomp off with Ice Beam. However, Timid Lugia needs to watch out for Choice Scarf Garchomp's Stone Edge, as he it will be 2HKOed after Stealth Rock. Groudon must invest heavily in HP and Defense in order to be a buffer against Garchomp. Unfortunately, Groudon is still at risk of being 2HKOed from a Swords Danced Outrage, while Thunder Wave will not paralyze Garchomp, thanks to its Ground-typing. Cresselia can easily switch into Garchomp that lack Swords Dance and retaliate with Ice Beam. Moonlight's recovery is boosted by Groudon's Drought, allowing Cresselia to more efficiently take hits from Garchomp. Skarmory and Bronzong can switch into Garchomp, especially because the vast majority of Garchomp lack Fire Fang or Fire Blast. Metagross can switch into a locked Outrage and KO Garchomp with Ice Punch.</p>

<p>Many Pokémon can rely on their high Speed in order to revenge kill Garchomp. Keep in mind that the Choice Scarf set is an exception. Mewtwo, Darkrai, and Deoxys-A carry moves that threaten to OHKO Garchomp. Mewtwo commonly has Ice Beam to dispense dispose of Garchomp quickly and also access to Will-O-Wisp and Reflect. A combination of Darkrai's STAB Dark Pulse, Dark Void, and Bad Dreams will usually force Garchomp to switch out. Deoxys-A can easily scare Garchomp off with Ice Beam, but cannot switch into Garchomp at all. Deoxys-S can always outpace Garchomp, with enough Speed investment, and bring it down with Ice Beam. For the non Choice Scarf sets, Latios, Latias, and Choice Scarf Dragon Pokémon can revenge kill Garchomp. This can be risky though, because Haban Berry Garchomp will survive any of the faster Dragon-type attacks, bar a Draco Meteor, (remove comma) from Soul Dew Latios or Latias. For any user of Ice Beam, 269 Special Attack minimum is required in order to OHKO Garchomp.</p>

<p>Sand Veil makes countering Garchomp difficult. Because Sand Veil reduces Ice Beam's accuracy to 80%, it may sometimes miss, resulting in Garchomp gaining a KO. Dark Void suffers an accuracy cut from 80% to 64%. Thankfully, Rayquaza's Air Lock prevents Sand Veil from screwing up ExtremeSpeed’s's accuracy.</p>


OK. The write-up was exceptional, just a few minor mistakes to clean up.

Any instance of me using a green colored Pokemon means it should have an accent on it.

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Thanks Oglemi, corrections made.

OK. The write-up was exceptional, just a few minor mistakes to clean up.
Actually, most of this wasn't my prose, I C/Ped the previous Garchomp analysis (I think Theorymon was the one who wrote it) and cut out unneeded stuff, added in a few things like Fire Blast and Timid Lugia as a counter and changed the prose slightly. I'll note this in the OP.
 
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Any instance of me using a green colored Pokemon means it should have an accent on it.
Grammar Standards said:
Pokemon without the accent is an accepted spelling of the word, so long as it is consistent throughout the writing.
Just saying. I personally prefer no accent because >50% of the DPP analyses are written that way, but keep consistency in mind.
 

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Yeah I made sure of that. Almost all of the instances of Pokemon in the writing had an accent on it, and the 4-ish ones that didn't I highlighted.

I too would rather prefer we didn't have the accent, I was just keeping the analysis consistent.
 

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[Overview]

<p>Do not be fooled by Garchomp's previous status as an OU Pokémon, because Garchomp is still a force to be reckoned with, even in the Uber tier. With a Choice Scarf, Garchomp is an excellent revenge killer that can stop sweeps from both Swords Dance and Dragon Dance Rayquaza. With a Choice Band, Garchomp is a fast physical powerhouse that requires no set up. Given that chance though, Garchomp can use Swords Dance to become a sweeper that can bring even Bold Lugia to its knees, single-handedly crumpling the Uber metagame with its mighty STAB Outrage. Give Garchomp the chance to sweep, and it will respond quickly with devastation, leaving only dust in its wake.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Outrage
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Dragon Claw
move 4: Stone Edge
item: Choice Scarf
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Choice Scarf Garchomp is an excellent revenge killer and cleaner in the Uber environment. Thanks to its base 102 Speed, Garchomp can easily outrun and revenge kill almost every other Dragon-type used in Ubers. Choice Scarf Garchomp is also one of the few things that can revenge kill both Dragon Dance and Swords Dance Rayquaza, thanks to its good defenses and higher Speed. Note that if Garchomp is a team's main method of dealing with Swords Dance Rayquaza, it is advisable to try keeping Garchomp at near full health until it has KOed it, as a Swords Danced, Life Orb Adamant Rayquaza deals 80%-94% to Garchomp with ExtremeSpeed and may KO it if it has previously taken any residual damage.</p>

<p>Outrage is important for this set, because Garchomp does not have the power of Choice Band to boost its attacks, Outrage's STAB and 120 Base Power help make up for the lack of a boost. STAB Earthquake is also important for coverage, taking out Steel-types, such as Dialga, and Metagross. Dragon Claw is weaker than Outrage; however, it retains Garchomp's freedom to switch out of battle if the need be. Stone Edge is the best option for the final moveslot, as it is capable of OHKOing Ho-Oh and, with Stealth Rock damage, has a chance of 2HKOing Timid Lugia. A Fire-typed move can also be used in the last slot (either Fire Blast or Fire Fang), if you are bringing sun support, to do a severe amount of damage to Forretress and Scizor. Toxic can also be used in place of Stone Edge to cripple Lugia and Groudon.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>If using Dragon Claw on this set, Stealth Rock support is very important. Without Stealth Rock, Garchomp's Dragon Claw cannot OHKO Palkia or Rayquaza. Steel-types such as Forretress and Scizor, can easily switch into Garchomp's Dragon-type attacks and set up entry hazards or attack, while Lugia and Deoxys-D can also switch into any attack and wall Garchomp. Because of these checks, support Dialga can be a fantastic teammate for Choice Scarf Garchomp, resisting most of the Steel-type Pokémon's attacks, and with the ability to either OHKO them with Fire Blast or set up Stealth Rock. Dialga can also cripple Lugia and Deoxys-D with Toxic. Choice Specs Kyogre can be a very useful teammate as well. Not only does Choice Specs Kyogre easily OHKO most of Garchomp's checks with its STAB, but Choice Scarf Garchomp can also revenge kill Palkia and Latias, or switch into Thunders aimed at Kyogre in return. Finally, Wobbuffet can easily switch into any of Garchomp's attacks, bar Outrage (which only has a 22% chance of 2HKOing 28 HP / 228 Def neutral natured Wobbuffet with Leftovers, even after switching into Stealth Rock), and KO with Counter. There isn't much that can be done to solve this, beyond predicting a Wobbuffet switch-in, because Garchomp will be trapped, due to Wobbuffet's Shadow Tag ability. Darkrai and Taunt Mewtwo can use Wobbuffet as set up bait, so using them alongside Garchomp is not a bad idea.</p>

[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Outrage / Dragon Claw
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Stone Edge / Fire Fang
item: Life Orb / Haban Berry
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Garchomp's main advantage over Rayquaza, as a Swords Dancer, is its Speed. Seven base points may not seem like much, but outspeeding Hasty Palkia is invaluable. It also gives Garchomp a chance of decimating most Latias who don't invest heavily in Speed. The lack of ExtremeSpeed is rather unfortunate for Garchomp, but with its bulk, typing, and ability, it's still very viable. Immunity to Thunder also allows Garchomp to potentially switch into Choice Specs Kyogre and obtain a free Swords Dance while Kyogre switches out.</p>

<p>After a Swords Dance, and with the power boost of Life Orb, Garchomp is nearly unstoppable offensively; being able to outspeed a large portion of the Uber metagame and outright OHKO even Support Groudon, one of the most physically defensive Pokémon in the tier, after 3 layers of Spikes and Stealth Rock. This, added to a STAB Earthquake with which to wreck grounded Steel-types, such as Dialga and Metagross, that are able to take a boosted Outrage, and you'll realize that there are very few Pokémon left that can be relied on to defeat Garchomp.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Some other item options that also work well when using Swords Dance Garchomp are Haban and Yache Berry; the former allows Garchomp survive any Dragon-type move from a faster Dragon-type Pokémon, bar Draco Meteors from Soul Dew Latias and Latios, and KO them, while the latter works in a similar manner, but with Ice-type attacks. It is worth noting that Garchomp is still OHKOed by a Choice Specs Kyogre's Ice Beam even with a Yache Berry. Also note that OHKOs on Groudon and Lugia are lost if you use any other item besides Life Orb, and will require entry hazard support to be reattained.</p>

<p>Dragon Claw is a useful option over Outrage if being locked into one move is a problem for you. The Base Power is an issue, however, and it can lose some important KOs; for example, Giratina is only 2HKOed by Dragon Claw after a Swords Dance, but an Outrage with the same boosts easily OHKOes it. If you are using Life Orb, this will become less of an issue, because it will often resecure such KOs with Stealth Rock support. Fire Fang is an option over Stone Edge if your team has ways of dealing with Lugia, as Fire Fang can OHKO Forretress and Scizor, as well as Skarmory with Stealth Rock, if it is not raining.</p>

<p>Wobbuffet is an excellent teammate for Swords Dance Garchomp for a number of reasons. Thanks to Shadow Tag, Wobbuffet can trap and KO Choice Scarfed Dragon-types with either Mirror Coat or Counter, eliminating one of the main barriers to Garchomp's sweep. Wobbuffet can also help Garchomp set up a Swords Dance with Encore. Additionally, Wobbuffet can use Tickle to lower Lugia's Defense. After two Tickles, Choice Band Tyranitar can OHKO Lugia with Pursuit as it switches. With Lugia gone, Garchomp will have a much easier time sweeping, and can more comfortably opt to run Fire Fang. Scizor is a helpful partner that can beat offensive Mewtwo who lack Fire-type moves. Choice Scarf Heracross and Sleep Talk Kyogre can switch into the faster Darkrai's Dark Void. Even with Garchomp's 102 base Speed, many Ubers still can outspeed and OHKO it. Therefore, paralysis support can be helpful for stopping faster foes from disrupting its sweep. This is especially true when Garchomp is not running a type-resist Berry. Lugia is a good choice for paralysis support, as it often lures in Mewtwo and Darkrai, and can promptly cripple them with Thunder Wave. Thunder Wave Kyogre is another good choice, because it can lure in Choice Scarf Palkia and Latias.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Band
move 1: Outrage
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Dragon Claw
move 4: Stone Edge
item: Choice Band
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Garchomp makes a fantastic user of Choice Band in the Uber environment. With 333 Speed and 538 Attack, not a whole lot can switch into this set safely. Opponents expecting the Choice Scarf variant will be surprised when Earthquake 2HKOes many of the set's common switch-ins, particularly Scizor and Wobbuffet. Earthquake will also OHKO most Dialga (unless it has used Bulk Up once) and any other grounded Steel-type in Ubers. Outrage is an excellent clean-up attack to use once the main threats to Garchomp have been eliminated, and can even 2HKO Support Groudon after Stealth Rock. Outrage should always be used with extreme caution though, because once it is used, Garchomp cannot switch out and is forced to use it repeatedly.</p>

<p>Stone Edge is Garchomp's best move against Lugia, and although Garchomp should not square off against Timid Lugia, Bold Lugia will be 2HKOed by Stone Edge after Stealth Rock. As with the Choice Scarf set, Dragon Claw is useful for finishing off weakened Pokémon without any of the issues of the other moves.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>This set has issues with faster Pokémon with super effective moves; specifically Mewtwo, Darkrai, Latias, Latios, and any Dragon-type with a Choice Scarf. The Uber Trapper Scizor is a good Pokémon to use to deal with these threats, as it is able to switch into any Choiced Dragon-type move, and then Roost away the damage, predict a switch and use Pursuit, or use U-turn to scout the next switch-in. Scizor can also beat Darkrai if Sleep Clause is in effect, in addition to checking offensive Mewtwo and Latias that lack a Fire-type move or Thunder. Heracross is another viable teammate for Choice Band Garchomp, because Heracross can absorb Darkrai's Dark Void and also switch into a defensive Mewtwo's Will-O-Wisp, thanks to its ability, Guts. Finally, Choice Band Tyranitar can easily defeat both Latias and Latios, thanks to the Special Defense boost granted by Sand Stream. The sandstorm it brings also makes Choice Band Garchomp harder to beat, thanks to the evasion boost that Sand Veil grants it.</p>

[SET]
name: SubSalac
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Dragon Claw / Outrage
move 4: Earthquake
item: Salac Berry
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
ivs: 30 HP

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set allows Garchomp to safely Swords Dance without as much prediction, thanks to Substitute. Behind the Substitute, feel free to use Swords Dance until the Substitute breaks. Once the Substitute is broken, repeat the process until the Salac Berry activates, then Garchomp is ready to sweep. Dragon Claw allows Garchomp to switch attacks, ensuring that Garchomp is not stopped cold by most Steels. Outrage is still a worthwhile secondary choice, however. Because Garchomp will be at low HP after the Salac Berry activates, Outrage is worth considering due to its higher Base Power over Dragon Claw. Even with a Swords Dance, there are a number of Pokémon Garchomp will still be unable to KO with either of its other attacking moves. Outrage offers the strongest alternative possible, at the risk of being walled after using it. Whichever Dragon-type attack you choose, Earthquake is the best move to pair with it, offering the most additional coverage and STAB. Stone Edge isn't worth considering on this set; you lose the guaranteed OHKO on Lugia, but Dragon and Ground offer far superior coverage than any other combination, and you still maintain a slim chance of OHKOing Lugia with Outrage after Stealth Rock damage.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Much like the Swords Dance set, SubSalac Garchomp has a much easier time sweeping with Wobbuffet as a teammate. Bold Lugia can use his combination of Reflect, Roost, and Ice Beam to defeat Garchomp, since Garchomp is no longer using Stone Edge. Choice Band Tyranitar will easily KO a fleeing Lugia after Wobbuffet Tickles it twice, providing Garchomp with a much easier opportunity at sweeping. Wobbuffet can also use Encore to help Garchomp set up, while Tyranitar's Sand Stream will boost its evasion, making it even more difficult to take down.</p>

<p>Due to Garchomp using Substitute to lower its HP for a Speed boost, users of priority moves can be a problem after Garchomp's Substitute is broken. The main users of priority moves in Ubers are Rayquaza, the Deoxys formes, Scizor, and Lucario. It is best that these threats are KOed before you try and set up SubSalac Garchomp. Choice Scarf Magnezone can be a useful teammate because of this, as it can revenge kill Rayquaza who lacks a Speed boost and trap Lucario and Scizor. However, Groudon can easily set up on Magnezone locked into Thunder. When using Magnezone, rain or sun support are welcome additions to boost Thunder and Hidden Power Fire respectively. Gengar is a great teammate for Garchomp as well. Gengar can easily lure in Scizor and OHKO it with Hidden Power Fire. Gengar also has the option of using Hidden Power Ice to OHKO Rayquaza. With Stealth Rock support, Rayquaza will be OHKOed by Life Orb Gengar's Icy Wind as well, allowing the use of Hidden Power Fire with it.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Stealth Rock should always be used on a team with Garchomp, because it turns 2HKOs on powerful threats, like Palkia and Rayquaza, into OHKOs with an unboosted Dragon Claw. Additionally, Swords Dance Garchomp without Life Orb has a 79% chance of KOing 252 HP / 52 Defense Bold Lugia with Stone Edge, if Stealth Rock is present. In general, all Garchomp sets enjoy sandstorm, because the evasion boost from Sand Veil allows Garchomp to avoid a move that would ordinarily KO it, potentially netting it an extra kill. The only Sand Stream Pokémon who is viable in Ubers is Tyranitar, who is an excellent teammate with Garchomp. Tyranitar can beat Latios and Latias with a Pursuit boosted from Choice Band. With an EV spread of 252 HP / 56 Atk / 200 SpD and a Careful nature, Tyranitar can survive any special attack from Mewtwo (including a +1 Aura Sphere) and OHKO it with a Choice Banded Crunch.</p>

<p>Garchomp will have problems sweeping when Timid Lugia or faster Pokémon with either Ice- or Dragon-type moves are around. Kyogre is therefore a great teammate since it can take on Lugia, Darkrai (With Rest and Sleep Talk), and Steel-types with ease. Choice Scarf Garchomp can also revenge kill the most common switch-ins to Choice Specs Kyogre who are Latias and Palkia. A specially defensive Scizor can switch into any of Mewtwo’s attacks except Fire Blast, and threaten it with a STAB U-turn. Deoxys-A is also easily dealt with by Scizor, as Scizor can switch in and either Pursuit Deoxys-A as it switches out or OHKO it with Bullet Punch. Wobbuffet can switch in on Choice Scarfed moves from Pokémon like Dialga and Palkia, and use either Mirror Coat or Counter to KO them. Support Groudon can easily lure Lugia and cripple it with Toxic or Thunder Wave, thus Garchomp will then have an easier time sweeping. As a bonus, Groudon can also set up Stealth Rock.</p>

<p>Generally, the best defensive teammates for Garchomp resist its two weaknesses, Ice- and Dragon-type moves. Kyogre is an excellent teammate defensively, because Kyogre not only resists Ice-type attacks, but Garchomp is also immune to Kyogre's most exploited weakness, Thunder. Once again, Scizor is an excellent teammate defensively, as Scizor resists both Dragon- and Ice-type attacks, while Garchomp resists Scizor's Fire-type weakness. In a similar manner, Metagross resists Garchomp's weaknesses, while having the ability to use a Choice Scarf to revenge kill problem Pokémon with Explosion.</p>

<p>Lugia's only common partners that give Garchomp any trouble are Darkrai and Palkia (both of whom have trouble with Choice Scarf Garchomp). Choice Band Scizor can switch into Palkia's Dragon-type attacks, and do massive damage with U-turn. Additionally, Scizor can switch into Darkrai once the Sleep Clause is triggered and 2HKO it with Bullet Punch. Thankfully, the most common teammates for problem Pokémon and Darkrai are all Pokémon whom Garchomp can handle with at least one of its sets (mainly Kyogre, Palkia, Groudon, Dialga, and Rayquaza). For example, Choice Scarf Garchomp easily OHKOes Palkia and Rayquaza with Outrage. Dialga is easily OHKOed by Choice Band Garchomp's Earthquake, while Groudon is 2HKOed by a Choice Banded Outrage. Additionally, a common tactic against Choiced Garchomp is to send in a Steel-type to take an Outrage. The most common Pokémon seen doing this are Scizor and Forretress. Common partners for Forretress that have not been mentioned yet are Giratina and Blissey. Garchomp easily 2HKOes Giratina with Outrage, and Blissey is never going to stay in on Garchomp. Scizor's most common partners are actually nearly identical to Lugia's.</p>

[Optional Changes]

<p>Garchomp’s movepool isn’t massive compared to other Uber Pokemon. The moves listed are best choices for Garchomp in most scenarios.</p>

<p>On the Choice Band or Choice Scarf sets, Crunch is a reasonable option over Stone Edge. Crunch can still 2HKO Lugia on the Choice Band set, while giving Garchomp a safer alternative against the omnipresent Psychic-types in Ubers. Given that Garchomp has better overall defenses than Swampert, running a defensive set that utilizes Rest and Sleep Talk or Stealth Rock may seem like a viable option, but Dialga is generally the better choice for this, as Dialga has no 4x weaknesses and has better defenses than Garchomp.</p>

[Counters]

<p>Timid Lugia is the best check for Garchomp. It can live by using Reflect, Roosting off the damage, and scaring Garchomp off with Ice Beam. However, Timid Lugia needs to watch out for Choice Scarf Garchomp's Stone Edge, as it will be 2HKOed after Stealth Rock. Groudon must invest heavily in HP and Defense in order to be a buffer against Garchomp. Unfortunately, Groudon is still at risk of being 2HKOed from a Swords Danced Outrage, while Thunder Wave will not paralyze Garchomp, thanks to its Ground-typing. Cresselia can easily switch into Garchomp that lack Swords Dance and retaliate with Ice Beam. Moonlight's recovery is boosted by Groudon's Drought, allowing Cresselia to more efficiently take hits from Garchomp. Skarmory and Bronzong can switch into Garchomp, especially because the vast majority of Garchomp lack Fire Fang or Fire Blast. Metagross can switch into a locked Outrage and KO Garchomp with Ice Punch.</p>

<p>Many Pokémon can rely on their high Speed in order to revenge kill Garchomp. Keep in mind that the Choice Scarf set is an exception. Mewtwo, Darkrai, and Deoxys-A carry moves that threaten to OHKO Garchomp. Mewtwo commonly has Ice Beam to dispose of Garchomp quickly and also access to Will-O-Wisp and Reflect. A combination of Darkrai's STAB Dark Pulse, Dark Void, and Bad Dreams will usually force Garchomp to switch out. Deoxys-A can easily scare Garchomp off with Ice Beam, but cannot switch into Garchomp at all. Deoxys-S can always outpace Garchomp, with enough Speed investment, and bring it down with Ice Beam. For the non Choice Scarf sets, Latios, Latias, and Choice Scarf Dragon Pokémon can revenge kill Garchomp. This can be risky though, because Haban Berry Garchomp will survive any of the faster Dragon-type attacks, bar a Draco Meteor from Soul Dew Latios or Latias. For any user of Ice Beam, 269 Special Attack minimum is required in order to OHKO Garchomp.</p>

<p>Sand Veil makes countering Garchomp difficult. Because Sand Veil reduces Ice Beam's accuracy to 80%, it may sometimes miss, resulting in Garchomp gaining a KO. Dark Void suffers an accuracy cut from 80% to 64%. Thankfully, Rayquaza's Air Lock prevents Sand Veil from screwing up ExtremeSpeed's accuracy.</p>
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