Woobat (Analysis)

Heysup · Oct 4th, 2010, 11:41:43 AM

http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/koromori

[Overview]

Unaware gives it a unique niche in the Little Cup metagame as it stops many set up sweepers.
Has decent sweeping stats.
Easily switches into Fighting/Ground-type attacks, so it's easy to fit on a team.

[SET]
name: Stat Boost Counter
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Air Slash
move 3: Psycho Shock
move 4: Hidden Power Fighting
item: Life Orb / Berry Juice
ability: Unaware
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 16 Def / 240 SpA / 16 SpD / 184 Spe

Set Description:

Stops most stat boosters such as Dragon Dancers, Swords Dancers, Rock Polish/Agility users, Calm Mind users, and Bulk Up users because of Unaware.
Air Slash and Psycho Shock have decent neutral coverage.
Hidden Power Fighting hits Komatana for a clean OHKO.
Substitute blocks Sucker Punch and status.

Additional Comments:

Psychic can be used over Psycho Shock, but Munchlax takes much more damage from Psycho Shock.
Hidden Power Ground is an option to hit Stunky.

Teammates and Counters:

Stunky can't really switch in, but it does pose problems if it comes in when Koromori doesn't have a Substitute up.
Munchlax beats it one versus one but it does have trouble switching in.
Bronzor walls it.
Misdreavus, Houndour, and other Nasty Plot users can still beat Koromori because they still OHKO it.
A Bronzor trapper, such as Wynaut, or lure, such as Dratini, works quite well.
Diglett traps Houndour and other dangerous Dark-types.

[SET]
name: Choice
move 1: Psycho Shock
move 2: Air Slash
move 3: Shadow Ball
move 4: U-turn
item: Choice Scarf / Choice Specs
ability: Unaware
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 16 Def / 240 SpA / 16 SpD / 184 Spe

Set Description:

Stops most stat boosters such as Dragon Dancers, Swords Dancers, Rock Polish/Agility users, Calm Mind users, and Bulk Up users because of Unaware.
Air Slash and Psycho Shock have decent neutral coverage.
Hidden Power Fighting hits Komatana for a clean OHKO.
Shadow Ball KOes most Ghost-types more easily than its STABs.

Additional Comments:

Psychic can be used over Psycho Shock, but Munchlax takes much more damage from Psycho Shock.
Hidden Power Ground is an option to hit Stunky.

Teammates and Counters:

Stunky can't really switch in, but it does pose problems if it comes in when Koromori doesn't have a Substitute up.
Munchlax beats it one versus one but it does have trouble switching in.
Bronzor walls it.
Misdreavus, Houndour, and other Nasty Plot users can still beat Koromori because they still OHKO it.
A Bronzor trapper, such as Wynaut, or lure, such as Dratini, works quite well.
Diglett traps Houndour and other dangerous Dark-types.

[Team Options]

Something to switch into Munchlax, such as Geodude or other Rock-types.
Something to lure and possibly KO Stunky, such as Misdreavus or Gastly.
Works well with defensive Pokemon since Koromori deals with set-up sweepers.
Could use a Bronzor lure like Geodude or Dratini.

[Optional Changes]

Hidden Power Ground is always an option to beat Stunky.

[Counters]

Stunky can't really switch in, but it does pose problems if it comes in when Koromori doesn't have a Substitute up.
Munchlax beats it one versus one but it does have trouble switching in.
Bronzor walls it.
Misdreavus, Houndour, and other Nasty Plot users can still beat Koromori because they still OHKO it.

[Dream World]

Simple would give Koromori a way to boost its Special Attack and Defense by +2 with a single Calm Mind, making it a dangerous sweeper.

Heysup · Oct 4th, 2010, 5:57:00 PM

done

Dracoyoshi8 · Oct 4th, 2010, 7:32:22 PM

I think Charge Beam, Trick Room and Energy Ball should go in Optional Changes. It's a shame it doesn't doesn't learn Trick. Klutz can be really annoying if you play it right.

TorchicBlaziken · Jan 17th, 2011, 2:59:13 PM

Woobat

Charmander · Jan 17th, 2011, 3:38:49 PM

TorchicBlaziken I don't think they confirmed those names, but yeah, it's supposed to evolve into Swoobat. Plus, I think Psych Up should get a mention so you can get some defense from Bulk Uppers and such, plus get useful boosts from Calm Minders. Maybe slashed into Psycho Shock's slot since Air Slash and Hidden Power Fighting hit everything in Little Cup for neutral damage

TorchicBlaziken · Jan 18th, 2011, 4:52:09 PM

They confirmed Woobat, though:

http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/en-us/pokemon/woobat/

Charmander · Jan 18th, 2011, 6:24:33 PM

Oh wow, that totally sucks. I wouldn't want this to be named Woobat. That's unfortunate.

Moo · Jan 19th, 2011, 4:29:57 PM

on top of being an awful name, Woobat =/= Zubat. Just plain lazy to be honest....

Aerrow · Aug 28th, 2011, 12:20:04 PM

Yeah, someone can take this over. Moving.

Oct 4th, 2010, 11:41:43 AM	#1
Heysup GO JETS GO Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,090 CanaJew	Woobat (Analysis) http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/koromori [Overview] Unaware gives it a unique niche in the Little Cup metagame as it stops many set up sweepers. Has decent sweeping stats. Easily switches into Fighting/Ground-type attacks, so it's easy to fit on a team. [SET] name: Stat Boost Counter move 1: Substitute move 2: Air Slash move 3: Psycho Shock move 4: Hidden Power Fighting item: Life Orb / Berry Juice ability: Unaware nature: Timid / Modest evs: 16 Def / 240 SpA / 16 SpD / 184 Spe Set Description: Stops most stat boosters such as Dragon Dancers, Swords Dancers, Rock Polish/Agility users, Calm Mind users, and Bulk Up users because of Unaware. Air Slash and Psycho Shock have decent neutral coverage. Hidden Power Fighting hits Komatana for a clean OHKO. Substitute blocks Sucker Punch and status. Additional Comments: Psychic can be used over Psycho Shock, but Munchlax takes much more damage from Psycho Shock. Hidden Power Ground is an option to hit Stunky. Teammates and Counters: Stunky can't really switch in, but it does pose problems if it comes in when Koromori doesn't have a Substitute up. Munchlax beats it one versus one but it does have trouble switching in. Bronzor walls it. Misdreavus, Houndour, and other Nasty Plot users can still beat Koromori because they still OHKO it. A Bronzor trapper, such as Wynaut, or lure, such as Dratini, works quite well. Diglett traps Houndour and other dangerous Dark-types. [SET] name: Choice move 1: Psycho Shock move 2: Air Slash move 3: Shadow Ball move 4: U-turn item: Choice Scarf / Choice Specs ability: Unaware nature: Timid / Modest evs: 16 Def / 240 SpA / 16 SpD / 184 Spe Set Description: Stops most stat boosters such as Dragon Dancers, Swords Dancers, Rock Polish/Agility users, Calm Mind users, and Bulk Up users because of Unaware. Air Slash and Psycho Shock have decent neutral coverage. Hidden Power Fighting hits Komatana for a clean OHKO. Shadow Ball KOes most Ghost-types more easily than its STABs. Additional Comments: Psychic can be used over Psycho Shock, but Munchlax takes much more damage from Psycho Shock. Hidden Power Ground is an option to hit Stunky. Teammates and Counters: Stunky can't really switch in, but it does pose problems if it comes in when Koromori doesn't have a Substitute up. Munchlax beats it one versus one but it does have trouble switching in. Bronzor walls it. Misdreavus, Houndour, and other Nasty Plot users can still beat Koromori because they still OHKO it. A Bronzor trapper, such as Wynaut, or lure, such as Dratini, works quite well. Diglett traps Houndour and other dangerous Dark-types. [Team Options] Something to switch into Munchlax, such as Geodude or other Rock-types. Something to lure and possibly KO Stunky, such as Misdreavus or Gastly. Works well with defensive Pokemon since Koromori deals with set-up sweepers. Could use a Bronzor lure like Geodude or Dratini. [Optional Changes] Hidden Power Ground is always an option to beat Stunky. [Counters] Stunky can't really switch in, but it does pose problems if it comes in when Koromori doesn't have a Substitute up. Munchlax beats it one versus one but it does have trouble switching in. Bronzor walls it. Misdreavus, Houndour, and other Nasty Plot users can still beat Koromori because they still OHKO it. [Dream World] Simple would give Koromori a way to boost its Special Attack and Defense by +2 with a single Calm Mind, making it a dangerous sweeper. __________________ f u, v Last edited by Fatecrashers; May 19th, 2011 at 10:59:17 PM.

Oct 4th, 2010, 5:57:00 PM	#2
Heysup GO JETS GO Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,090 CanaJew	done __________________ f u, v

Oct 4th, 2010, 7:32:22 PM	#3
Dracoyoshi8 weapon of mass seduction Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 600 intentionally infiltrates	I think Charge Beam, Trick Room and Energy Ball should go in Optional Changes. It's a shame it doesn't doesn't learn Trick. Klutz can be really annoying if you play it right. __________________

Jan 17th, 2011, 3:38:49 PM	#5
Charmander Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,705 Great Falls, VA Mentor	TorchicBlaziken I don't think they confirmed those names, but yeah, it's supposed to evolve into Swoobat. Plus, I think Psych Up should get a mention so you can get some defense from Bulk Uppers and such, plus get useful boosts from Calm Minders. Maybe slashed into Psycho Shock's slot since Air Slash and Hidden Power Fighting hit everything in Little Cup for neutral damage __________________

Jan 18th, 2011, 6:24:33 PM	#7
Charmander Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,705 Great Falls, VA Mentor	Oh wow, that totally sucks. I wouldn't want this to be named Woobat. That's unfortunate. __________________

Jan 17th, 2011, 2:59:13 PM	#4
TorchicBlaziken Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,225 Use sunscreen!	Woobat

Jan 18th, 2011, 4:52:09 PM	#6
TorchicBlaziken Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,225 Use sunscreen!	They confirmed Woobat, though: http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/en-us/pokemon/woobat/

Jan 19th, 2011, 4:29:57 PM	#8
Moo Professor Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,447	on top of being an awful name, Woobat =/= Zubat. Just plain lazy to be honest.... __________________ GP / UU QC, VM for check VM for a UU rate

Aug 28th, 2011, 12:20:04 PM	#9
Aerrow Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,557 Toronto, Canada	Yeah, someone can take this over. Moving. __________________