Mesprit (Trick Room)

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http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/mesprit

Surprisingly Mesprit has an OU Trick Room analysis but not an UU one, so we might as well fix that.


[SET]
name: UU Trick Room
move 1: Trick Room
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Psychic / U-turn
item: Expert Belt / Leftovers
nature: Quiet
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
ivs: 30 Atk / 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With great defenses and a Speed stat of 148, Mesprit is a natural candidate for the role of setting up Trick Room. However, what really sets Mesprit apart from other Trick Room users, such as Uxie, is its ability to sweep under this effect as well. While Mesprit performs better on teams completely based around Trick Room, as it's is durable enough to set it up multiple times throughout the match, it can be used on all kinds of teams in need of a defensive pivot and mid- to late-game sweeper.</p>

<p>Ice Beam and Thunderbolt are the crux of this set, creating the infamous BoltBeam combo, which hits a good part of the metagame for super effective damage and is only resisted by Magneton, Lanturn, and Shedinja in UU. Psychic rounds off this set’s coverage as a solid STAB move that hits Poison- and Fighting-types for super effective damage while also being a great weapon against Pokemon that are hit for neutral damage by the aforementioned BoltBeam combination, such as Rotom and Arcanine. However, because this set does a very good job at supporting other teammates, one can forgo Psychic and use U-turn in order to allow Mesprit to act as a scout and help other sweepers come in unscathed.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Despite the EVs on this set being straightforward, they can be tailored according to specific team needs. If Mesprit is running U-turn, an EV spread of 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe with a Timid nature is advisable, as it allows Mesprit to move after a significant amount of its opponents under Trick Room's effects; this enables one of its teammates to come in unharmed. Running a more defensive spread is yet another option if one wants Mesprit to stay around a bit longer to support its team, but that job is usually better left to Uxie, who has much higher defensive stats and superior Speed to abuse U-turn. Regarding the item of choice, Expert Belt is the preferred option, as it takes full advantage of Mesprit’s amazing super effective coverage without compromising its bulk like Life Orb would. Leftovers is a good alternative, especially if Mesprit’s main focus is support, where the added longevity is appreciated.</p>

<p>This set is stopped cold by the premier special walls of the tier, Registeel and Chansey, as well as specially defensive Spiritomb and Arcanine. As such, one should pair Mesprit with Pokemon that can easily get past the aforementioned threats. Marowak and Rhyperior are great choices for that role, as Trick Room rectifies their awful Speed stats, allowing them to have a much easier time sweeping. Dugtrio is another good option, as it can trap and KO most of the above Pokemon; however, one should be careful about using the two of them in conjunction, as Trick Room severely hampers Dugtrio’s main perk, its Speed. If Mesprit is used as a self-sustaining sweeper, Omastar and Cloyster are great options for partners, as they can provide Mesprit with Spikes support, the effectiveness of which is further enhanced by the fact that most of the pixie’s counters are grounded.</p>
 

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Wouldn't Exeggutor do this better (except for U-Turn)? About the same bulk, more powerful attacks, and Sleep Powder in the mix make it look more appealing to me.
 

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What? Yes, Exeggutor can do a good Trick Room set, but this is Mesprit. We don't reject sets simply because they're outclassed by another, especially if they can still function and do what they are intended to do. And how can you compare Exeggutor and Mesprit or suggest that Exeggutor may outclass Mesprit? They aren't even remotely similar bar the Psychic-typing. Mesprit has Ice Beam and Thunderbolt, U-turn, Levitate and is far more Specially bulky than Exeggutor.

You could compare Mesprit and Uxie, but then you kind of run into the same problem. Mesprit has much higher offensive stats than Uxie, making it different enough to warrant a set.

Confusing posts are confusing.
 
It should be mentioned that Quiet nature is only for use with U-Turn. With Psychic, Modest becomes the superior nature.
 

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Uh, I guess you missed the 40 extra SpD, the different typing, the 20 extra Def points, the boltbeam combination etc etc.

Modest isn't a better nature, you want to have as little speed as possible when using this set, unless you're running a fast spread, in which case Timid has been brought up. The drop of damage in U-turn is pretty negligible.
 
I think Healing Wish deserves a mention in the AC. Imagine the frustration when you fully heal the Marowak that the opposing team spent so much time trying to get rid of ;D lol. Plus it allows for a clean switch into the Trick Room abuser.

EDIT: Should probably be used with the faster spread
 

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yeah, i like it. mesprit is bulky and a good TR user. probably put u-turn as the main slash; trick room is only 5 turns as it is.
 

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Ok, so I found no one to write this guy and then decided to do it by myself. I took a different direction with this guy's analysis as I wanted to bolster his qualities as a self-sustaining sweeper over its support ones. Anyways, I guess this is ready for GP Checks.
 

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[SET]
name: UU Trick Room
move 1: Trick Room
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Psychic / U-turn
item: Expert Belt / Leftovers
nature: Quiet
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
ivs: 30 Atk / 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With great defenses on both ends and a Speed stat of 148, Mesprit is a natural candidate for the role of setting up Trick Room. However, what really sets Mesprit apart from other Trick Room users, such as Uxie, is its capability of sweeping under this effect as well; which means despite it performing better on teams completely based around Trick Room, as Mesprit is durable enough to set it up multiple times throughout the match; it can be used on all kinds of teams in need of a defensive pivot and mid- to late-game sweeper.</p>

<p>Ice Beam and Thunderbolt are the crux of this set, creating the infamous BoltBeam combo that hits a good part of the metagame for super effective damage and is only resisted by Magneton, Lanturn and Shedinja in UU. Psychic rounds off this set’s coverage as a solid STAB that hits Poison- and Fighting-types for super effective damage, while also being a great tool against Pokemon that are hit for neutral damage by the aforementioned BoltBeam combination, such as Rotom and Arcanine. However, because this set does a very good job at supporting other teammates, one can forego Psychic and use U-turn in order to act as a scout and help other sweepers come in unscathed.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Despite the EVs on this set being straightforward, they can be tailored according to specific team needs. If Mesprit is running U-turn, an EV spread of 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe with a Timid nature is advisable, as it allows Mesprit to move after a good number of its opponents under Trick Room's effects; thus enabling one of its teammates to come in unharmed. Running a more defensive spread is yet another option if one wants Mesprit to stay around a bit longer to support its team, but that job is usually better left for Uxie, as it has much higher defenses and superior Speed to abuse U-turn. Regarding the item of choice, Expert Belt is the preferred option, as it takes full advantage of Mesprit’s amazing super effective coverage, courtesy of the BoltBeam combo, without compromising its bulk like Life orb would do. Leftovers is a good alternative, especially if Mesprit’s main focus is support, where the added longevity is appreciated.</p>

<p>This set is stopped cold by the premier special walls of the tier: Registeel and Chansey, as well as specially defensive Spiritomb and Arcanine; which means Mesprit should be paired with Pokemon that can easily get past the aforementioned threads. Marowak and Rhyperior are great choices for that role, as Trick Room rectifies their awful Speed stat, thus allowing them to have a much easier time sweeping. Dugtrio is another good option, as it can trap and KO most of the said Pokemon; but one should be careful about using the two of them in conjunction, as Trick Room severely hampers Dugtrio’s main perk, its Speed. In case Mesprit is used as a self-sustaining sweeper, Omastar and Cloyster are great options for partners, as they can provide Mesprit with Spikes support, the effectiveness of which is further enhanced by the fact most of the pixie’s counters are grounded.</p>


I really like reading these kind of write-ups. Their so short and precise.

P.S: Mind checking my Camerupt analysis pretty please? =P

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82691
 

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[SET]
name: UU Trick Room
move 1: Trick Room
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Psychic / U-turn
item: Expert Belt / Leftovers
nature: Quiet
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
ivs: 30 Atk / 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With great defenses on both ends and a Speed stat of 148, Mesprit is a natural candidate for the role of setting up Trick Room. However, what really sets Mesprit apart from other Trick Room users, such as Uxie, is its capability of sweeping ability to sweep under this effect as well; which well. This means despite it performing better on teams completely based around Trick Room, as Mesprit is durable enough to set it up multiple times throughout the match; match, it can be used on all kinds of teams in need of a defensive pivot and mid- to late-game sweeper.</p>

<p>Ice Beam and Thunderbolt are the crux of this set, creating the infamous BoltBeam combo that hits a good part of the metagame for super effective damage and is only resisted by Magneton, Lanturn, and Shedinja in UU. Psychic rounds off this set’s coverage as a solid STAB move that hits Poison- and Fighting-types for super effective damage, while also being a great tool weapon against Pokemon that are hit for neutral damage by the aforementioned BoltBeam combination, such as Rotom and Arcanine. However, because this set does a very good job at supporting other teammates, one can forego Psychic and use U-turn in order to allow Mesprit to act as a scout and help other sweepers come in unscathed.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Despite the EVs on this set being straightforward, they can be tailored according to specific team needs. If Mesprit is running U-turn, an EV spread of 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe with a Timid nature is advisable, as it allows Mesprit to move after a good number significant amount of its opponents under Trick Room's effects; thus enabling effects; this enables one of its teammates to come in unharmed. Running a more defensive spread is yet another option if one wants Mesprit to stay around a bit longer to support its team, but that job is usually better left to Uxie, who has much higher defenses defensive stats and superior Speed to abuse U-turn. Regarding the item of choice, Expert Belt is the preferred option, as it takes full advantage of Mesprit’s amazing super effective coverage, courtesy of the BoltBeam combo, coverage without compromising its bulk like Life Orb would. Leftovers is a good alternative, especially if Mesprit’s main focus is support, where the added longevity is appreciated.</p>

<p>This set is stopped cold by the premier special walls of the tier: Registeel and Chansey, as well as specially defensive Spiritomb and Arcanine; which means Mesprit should be paired As such, make sure that you pair Mesprit with Pokemon that can easily get past the aforementioned threads. Marowak and Rhyperior are great choices for that role, as Trick Room rectifies their awful Speed stat, thus allowing them to have a much easier time sweeping. Dugtrio is another good option, as it can trap and KO most of the said above Pokemon; but however, one should be careful about using the two of them in conjunction, as Trick Room severely hampers Dugtrio’s main perk, its Speed. In case If Mesprit is used as a self-sustaining sweeper, Omastar and Cloyster are great options for partners, as they can provide Mesprit with Spikes support, the effectiveness of which is further enhanced by the fact that most of the pixie’s counters are grounded.</p>


solid analysis!

 

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[SET]
name: UU Trick Room
move 1: Trick Room
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Psychic / U-turn
item: Expert Belt / Leftovers
nature: Quiet
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
ivs: 30 Atk / 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With great defenses and a Speed stat of 148, Mesprit is a natural candidate for the role of setting up Trick Room. However, what really sets Mesprit apart from other Trick Room users, such as Uxie, is its ability to sweep under this effect as well. While Mesprit performs better on teams completely based around Trick Room, as it is durable enough to set up Trick Room multiple times throughout the match, it can be used on all kinds of teams in need of a defensive pivot and mid- to late-game sweeper.</p>

<p>Ice Beam and Thunderbolt are the crux of this set, creating the infamous BoltBeam combo, which hits a good part of the metagame for super effective damage and is only resisted by Magneton, Lanturn, and Shedinja in UU. Psychic rounds off this set's coverage as a solid STAB move that hits Poison- and Fighting-types for super effective damage while also being a great weapon against Pokemon that are hit for neutral damage by the aforementioned BoltBeam combination, such as Rotom and Arcanine. However, because this set does a very good job at supporting other teammates, one can forgo Psychic and use U-turn in order to allow Mesprit to act as a scout and help other sweepers come in unscathed.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Despite the EVs on this set being straightforward, they can be tailored according to specific team needs. If Mesprit is running U-turn, an EV spread of 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe with a Timid nature is advisable, as it allows Mesprit to move after a significant amount of its opponents under Trick Room's effects; this enables one of its teammates to come in unharmed. Running a more defensive spread is yet another option if one wantsMesprit to stay around a bit longer to support its team, but that job is usually better left to Uxie, who has much higher defensive stats and superior Speed to abuse U-turn. Regarding the item of choice, Expert Belt is the preferred option, as it takes full advantage of Mesprit's amazing super effective coverage without compromising its bulk like Life Orb would. Leftovers is a good alternative, especially if Mesprit’s main focus is support, where the added longevity is appreciated.</p>

<p>This set is stopped cold by the premier special walls of the tier, Registeel and Chansey, as well as specially defensive Spiritomb and Arcanine. As such, one should[stick to either "one" or "you"] pair Mesprit with Pokemon that can easily get past the aforementioned threats. Marowak and Rhyperior are great choices for that role, as Trick Room rectifies their awful Speed stats, allowing them to have a much easier time sweeping. Dugtrio is another good option, as it can trap and KO most of the above Pokemon; however, one should be careful about using the two of them in conjunction, as Trick Room severely hampers Dugtrio's main perk, its Speed. If Mesprit is used as a self-sustaining sweeper, Omastar and Cloyster are great options for partners, as they can provide Mesprit with Spikes support, the effectiveness of which is further enhanced by the fact that most of the pixie’s counters are grounded.</p>
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Wow, you actually did something lazy bum. Thanks for the check, I believe this is ready for upload.
 

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