Wynaut (Analysis)

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WYNAUT???




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[Overview]
<p>When looking at Wynaut, you'd probably be asking yourself why this cute little creature was banished to the forbidden land of Ubers. With terrible stats, and the fact that Wobbuffet completely and utterly outclasses him, really the only reason Wynaut is banned from standard play is his access to the taboo combo of Shadow Tag and Encore. However, he does have a minor perk over his big brother Wobbuffet in that he has lower defensive stats, allowing him to activate Custap Berry faster, which, in and of itself, is a gimmick. So when it comes down to it, Wobbuffet is simply always the better option on a serious team.</p>

[SET]
name: Custap + Destiny Bond
move 1: Destiny Bond
move 2: Counter
move 3: Mirror Coat
move 4: Encore
item: Custap Berry
nature: Calm
evs: 152 HP / 180 Def / 176 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>The idea behind this set is to bring Wynaut in on your opponent's revenge killer after a kill, preferably one with a Choice Scarf, and trap it with Shadow Tag. Once they're trapped, Wynaut can then appropriately use Counter or Mirror Coat to KO the opponent, and if all goes accordingly, leave himself with low enough HP for Custap Berry to activate the next turn. This will allow Wynaut to "outspeed" the opponent and take it down with Destiny Bond unless they use a priority move. Wynaut can also Encore a support move from a wall and give a sweeper on your team a free turn, much like Wobbuffet.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EVs give Wynaut maximum overall bulk, with some bias towards the special side. This will allow Wynaut to always survive an unboosted Draco Meteor from Palkia and Dialga at full health. Wynaut will also survive an Outrage from Choice Scarf Garchomp, regardless of whether Stealth Rock is up or not.</p>

<p>Since Wynaut's main attraction is his ability to trap and remove revenge killers, Pokemon that can take advantage of this are obvious teammates. Dragon Dance Rayquaza and Salamence can sweep without fear of being revenge killed, once Choice Scarf Garchomp or Palkia out of the way, as is the case for Swords Dance Lucario and Rayquaza with Choice Scarf Dialga is removed. Mewtwo and Darkrai can sweep more easily should Choice Band Scizor be eliminated (though Wynaut would be wise not to come in on a U-turn), and Rock Polish Groudon can plow through opposing teams should Choice Scarf Shaymin-S be removed (be wary of Air Slash's flinch chance). Note that Wynaut has problems taking out Choice Scarf Kyogre when it is locked into a Water-type move, so a Pokemon such as Latias or Palkia, who can deal with Choice Scarf Kyogre easily, are good to have.</p>

<p>Since priority moves can take out Wynaut even after his Custap Berry has activated, Pokemon can stand up to common priority moves are ideal teammates. Dialga, Salamence, Manaphy, and Kyogre can all set up on Scizor's Bullet Punch, while Darkrai and Tyranitar can easily put pressure on a Giratina-O looking to use Shadow Sneak. Strong Steel-types, such as Jirachi and Metagross, are also useful to take on Rayquaza and Deoxys-A, common users of ExtremeSpeed. Wynaut is also stopped cold by Taunt. Common users of Taunt in the Uber tier are Deoxys-S and Mewtwo. Scizor is a good choice to take on the both of them, as he can use U-turn to put them in a checkmate position, dealing massive damage to them if they stay in, and scouting out the switch-in if they switch out. Rapid Spin and dedicated anti-leads can also stop the set-up of entry hazards which can whittle down Wynaut's health. Forretress is the premier Rapid Spinner in the Uber tier, while leads like Deoxys-S, Shaymin-S, and Darkrai can all prevent the opponent getting up entry hazards reliably.</p>

[Team Options]
<p>Pokemon who enjoy the removal of many common revenge killers make excellent teammates to Wynaut. Dragon Dance Rayquaza and Salamence can sweep more easily with Choice Scarf Palkia removed, while Swords Dance Rayquaza and Lucario appreciate opposing Choice Scarf Dialga being out of commission. Darkrai and Mewtwo also appreciate the removal of Scizor, while Rock Polish Groudon can sweep more easily with Choice Scarf Shaymin-S removed.</p>

<p>Pokemon that can take advantage of common priority attacks also make good teammates to Wynaut. In addition to the Pokemon mentioned above, Ho-Oh and Choice Specs Palkia can switch in on Scizor's Bullet Punch and proceed to wreak havoc. Dark Arceus can switch into Giratina-O's Shadow Sneak and set up Calm Mind, while Steel and Rock Arceus can switch into ExtremeSpeed from Rayquaza and Deoxys-A.</p>

<p>An interesting option would be to use Wobbuffet and Wynaut together on the same team. You can use Wynaut to take out revenge killers, while Wobbuffet can provide free turns for your own sweeper to set up. However, this is a teamslot that could've been used for a more powerful sweeper or tank.</p>

[Optional Changes]
<p>Wynaut only has eight moves in his movepool, therefore he really doesn't have any other options to run. Safeguard and Tickle are both done better by Wobbuffet.</p>

[Counters]
<p>Apart from Shed Shell, U-turn, or Baton Pass, Wynaut cannot be countered since there is no way for you to switch out. Essentially, use the same methods of dealing with Wobbuffet to defeat Wynaut. Taunt stops Wynaut cold, while putting him to sleep, or Tricking a Choice item onto him will cripple him greatly too. Generally, you'll end up losing a Pokemon to Wynaut simply because he catches you off-guard. The easiest way to take him out before he uses Destiny Bond on the second Pokemon is to send in a Pokemon with access to priority so you can finish him off before he is able to take another Pokemon down with him.</p>
 
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There may be almost no reason to use Wynaut, but because its the only Uber without an analysis, it needs one.
 

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I guess if you're really crazy you can use Wynaut/Wobb on the same team. :X

But yeah this needs an analysis.
 

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[Overview]
<p>When you look at Wynaut, you'd ask yourself why this cute little creature is banished to the forbidden land of Ubers. With terrible stats,(comma) and the fact that Wobbuffet completely outclasses him, the only reason why Wynaut is banned from standard play is his access to the taboo combo of Shadow Tag and Encore. The only minor perk he has over big brother Wobbuffet is that his defenses are smaller, allowing him to activate Custap Berry faster. In short, just use Wobbuffet if you're using a serious team.</p>

[SET]
name: Custap + Destiny Bond
move 1: Destiny Bond
move 2: Counter
move 3: Mirror Coat
move 4: Encore
item: Custap Berry
nature: Calm
evs: 152 HP / 180 Def / 176 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This is the best set that Wynaut can run, and a rather simple one at that. The idea is to just bring Wynaut into a revenge killer after a kill, typically one with a Choice Scarf,(comma) and trap it with Shadow Tag. Once trapped, Wynaut can use appropriately use Counter or Mirror Coat to KO the opponent,(comma) and leave himself in with low enough HP for Custap Berry to activate. On the next turn, Wynaut will "outspeed" the opponent and take it down with a +1 prioritized Destiny Bond. Wynaut can also use Encore on a supporting move from a wall to and give a sweeper a free turn.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EVs used are so give Wynaut gets his maximum overall bulk, with some focus on the special side. This allows Wynaut to survive a Draco Meteor from Choice Scarf Palkia,(comma) and Dialga if Stealth Rock is not up.(full stop) as well as Wynaut also survives Outrage from Choice Scarf Garchomp, regardless of whether Stealth Rock is up or not.</p>

<p>Since Wynaut's main attraction is the removal of Choice Scarf revenge-killers. With Choice Scarf Palkia or Garchomp removed, Dragon Dance Rayquaza and Salamence can sweep without fear of being revenge-killed by Scarfed Garchomp or Palkia, as is the case for Swords Dance Lucario and Rayquaza can sweep more easily should when Choice Scarf Dialga be is removed. Calm Mind Mewtwo and Darkrai can sweep more easily should Choice Band Scizor be removed from the battle. Rock Polish Groudon can plow through opposing teams should Choice Scarf Shaymin-S be removed (beware Air Slash flinch). Beware that Wynaut is not going to enjoy taking U-turn, so make sure Scizor is not locked into it. Wynaut has problems taking out Choice Scarf Kyogre should it be locked into a Water-type move. Latias can deal with Choice Scarf Kyogre easily, as can a Palkia of your own.</p>

<p>Since one the ways that the opponent prevents a second Pokemon dying to Wynaut is to have a Pokemon finish off Wynaut with a priority moves can take out Wynaut after his Custap Berry has activated, Pokemon that switch well into common priority moves are good teammates. Dialga, Salamence, Manaphy,(comma) and Kyogre can all set up on Bullet Punch from Scizor, while Darkrai and Tyranitar can easily put pressure on Giratina-O using Shadow Sneak. Strong Steel-types such as Jirachi and Metagross are also useful to take on Rayquaza and Deoxys-A, common users of Extremespeed. Wynaut is also stopped cold by Taunt. Common users of Taunt in the Uber tier are Deoxys-S and Mewtwo. Scizor is a good choice to take on the both of them, as he can use U-turn to deal massive damage to them. Rapid Spin and anti-leads can also stop Wynaut's health being brought down low enough for it to be OHKOed by the revenge-killers he is supposed to take out. Forretress is the premier Rapid Spinner in the Uber tier, while a lead like Deoxys-S, Choice Scarf Shaymin-S, Choice Scarf Darkrai can all prevent the opponent getting up entry hazards with good reliability.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Pokemon who enjoy the removal of Choiced revenge-killers make excellent teammates to Wynaut. Dragon Dance Rayquaza and Salamence can sweep more easily with Palkia removed, while Swords Dance Rayquaza and Lucario appreciate the removal of Dialga. Darkrai and Calm Mind Mewtwo appreciate the removal of Scizor, while Rock Polish Groudon can sweep more easily with Choice Scarf Shaymin-S removed.</p>

<p>Pokemon that can take advantage of common priority attacks also make good teammates to Wynaut. Dialga, Salamence, Manaphy,(comma) and Kyogre can all set up on Scizor locked into Bullet Punch, while Darkrai and Tyranitar can easily take advantage of Giratina-O using Shadow Sneak. Bulky Steel-types such as Jirachi and Metagross are good switch-ins to Rayquaza and Deoxys-A, common users of Extremespeed. Rapid Spin and anti-lead support help Wynaut as well, not allowing stopping Stealth Rock and Spikes to bring lowering Wynaut's health down low enough to be OHKOed by the Pokemon he's supposed to take out. Forretress is the premier Rapid Spinner of the Uber tier, while Choice Scarf Shaymin-S and Choice Scarf Darkrai can usually stop opposing leads setting up Stealth Rock and Spikes.</p>

<p>An interesting option would be to use Wobbuffet and Wynaut together on the same team, but that might be an extra teamslot that your team cannot afford.</p>

[Optional Changes]
<p>Wynaut only has eight moves in its his movepool, therefore it he really doesn't have any other options it he can run. Safeguard and Tickle are both done better by Wobbuffet.</p>

[Counters]
<p>Apart from using Shed Shell, U-turn,(comma) or Baton Pass, Wynaut cannot be countered since there is no way for the opponent to switch. Essentially, use the same methods of dealing with Wobbuffet will help you to defeat Wynaut. Taunt stops Wynaut cold, while putting him to sleep, or Tricking it him a Choice item will cripple him greatly too. Generally, you'll end up losing a Pokemon to Wynaut simply because he catches you off guard. The easiest way to take it him out before it he uses Destiny Bond on the second Pokemon is to send in a Pokemon with access to priority so you can finish him off before he is able to take another Pokemon down with him.</p>


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A few sentences with bad wording, and some uneccessary info in some places, but this was a good analysis :)
 

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[Overview]
<p>When looking at Wynaut, you'd probably be asking yourself why this cute little creature was banished to the forbidden land that is Ubers. With terrible stats, and the fact that Wobbuffet completely and utterly outclasses him, really the only reason why Wynaut is banned from standard play is his access to the taboo combo of Shadow Tag and Encore. However, he does have a minor perk he has over his big brother Wobbuffet in that his defenses are smaller, allowing him to activate Custap Berry faster, which, in and of itself, is a gimmick. So basically, Wobbuffet is simply always the better option on a serious team.</p>

[SET]
name: Custap + Destiny Bond
move 1: Destiny Bond
move 2: Counter
move 3: Mirror Coat
move 4: Encore
item: Custap Berry
nature: Calm
evs: 152 HP / 180 Def / 176 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This is the best set that Wynaut can run, and a rather simple one at that. The idea behind this set is to bring Wynaut in on your opponent's revenge killer after a kill, preferably one with a Choice Scarf, and trap it with Shadow Tag. Once trapped, Wynaut can appropriately use Counter or Mirror Coat to KO the opponent, and if all goes accordingly, leave himself with low enough HP for Custap Berry to activate the next turn. This will allow Wynaut to "outspeed" the opponent and take it down with a prioritized Destiny Bond unless it uses a priority move. Wynaut can also Encore a support move from a wall and give a sweeper a free turn like Wobbuffet.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EVs give Wynaut gets maximum overall bulk, with some bias to the special side. This will allow Wynaut to always survive an unboosted Draco Meteor from Choice Scarf Palkia, (remove comma) and Dialga at full health. Wynaut will also survive an Outrage from Choice Scarf Garchomp, regardless of whether Stealth Rock is up or not, as well.</p>

<p>Since Wynaut's main attraction is his ability to trap and remove revenge killers, Pokemon that can take advantage of this are obvious teammates. Dragon Dance Rayquaza and Salamence can sweep without fear of being revenge killed with Choice Scarf Garchomp or Palkia out of the way, as is the case for Swords Dance Lucario and Rayquaza with Choice Scarf Dialga is removed. Calm Mind Mewtwo and Darkrai can sweep more easily should Choice Band Scizor be eliminated from the battle (though Wynaut would be wise not to come in on a U-turn), and Rock Polish Groudon can plow through opposing teams should Choice Scarf Shaymin-S be removed (beware Air Slash flinch). Wynaut is not going to enjoy taking U-turn, so make sure Scizor is not locked into it. Note that Wynaut has problems taking out Choice Scarf Kyogre when it is locked into a Water-type move, so a Pokemon such as Latias or a Palkia of your own, who can deal with Choice Scarf Kyogre easily, are good to have as can a Palkia of your own.</p>

<p>Since priority moves can take out Wynaut after his Custap Berry has activated, Pokemon that switch well into common priority moves are good teammates. Dialga, Salamence, Manaphy, and Kyogre can all set up on Scizor's Bullet Punch, while Darkrai and Tyranitar can easily put pressure on Giratina-O using Shadow Sneak. Strong Steel-types such as Jirachi and Metagross are also useful to take on Rayquaza and Deoxys-A, common users of Extremespeed. Wynaut is also stopped cold by Taunt. Common users of Taunt in the Uber tier are Deoxys-S and Mewtwo. Scizor is a good choice to take on the both of them, as he can use U-turn to put them in a checkmate position, dealing massive damage to them if they stay in, and scouting out the switch-in if they switch-out. Rapid Spin and dedicated anti-leads can also stop the set-up of entry hazards from whittling down Wynaut's health being brought down by entry hazards. Forretress is the premier Rapid Spinner in the Uber tier, while a leads like Deoxys-S, Choice Scarf Shaymin-S, and Choice Scarf Darkrai can all prevent the opponent getting up entry hazards with good reliably.</p>

[Team Options]
<p>Pokemon who enjoy the removal of Choiced many common revenge killers make excellent teammates to Wynaut. Dragon Dance Rayquaza and Salamence can sweep more easily with Choice Scarf Palkia removed, while Swords Dance Rayquaza and Lucario appreciate the removal of Choice Scarf Dialga being gone. Darkrai and Calm Mind Mewtwo also appreciate the removal of Scizor, while Rock Polish Groudon can sweep more easily with Choice Scarf Shaymin-S removed.</p>

<p>Pokemon that can take advantage of common priority attacks also make good teammates to Wynaut. Dialga, Salamence, Manaphy, and Kyogre can all set up on Scizor locked into Bullet Punch, while Darkrai and Tyranitar can easily take advantage of Giratina-O using Shadow Sneak. Bulky Steel-types such as Jirachi and Metagross are good switch-ins to Rayquaza and Deoxys-A, common users of Extremespeed. Rapid Spin and anti-lead support help Wynaut as well, stopping Stealth Rock and Spikes from quickly depleting Wynaut's health. Forretress is the premier Rapid Spinner of the Uber tier, while Choice Scarf Shaymin-S and Choice Scarf Darkrai can usually stop opposing leads setting up Stealth Rock and Spikes.</p>

<p>An interesting option would be to use Wobbuffet and Wynaut together on the same team, but that is an extra teamslot that could've been used for a more powerful sweeper or tank.</p>

[OPTIONAL CHANGES]
<p>Wynaut only has eight moves in his movepool, therefore he really doesn't have any other options it can run. Safeguard and Tickle are both done better by Wobbuffet.</p>

[COUNTERS]
<p>Apart from using Shed Shell, U-turn, or Baton Pass, Wynaut cannot be countered since there is no way for the opponent to switch. Essentially, use the same methods of dealing with Wobbuffet to defeat Wynaut. Taunt stops Wynaut cold, while putting him to sleep, or Tricking him a Choice item will cripple him greatly too. Generally, you'll end up losing a Pokemon to Wynaut simply because he catches you off-guard. The easiest way to take him out before he uses Destiny Bond on the second Pokemon is to send in a Pokemon with access to priority so you can finish him off before he is able to take another Pokemon down with him.</p>


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EDIT2: checked it then..
 

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Aeron Ee1 said:
(copy/paste of the next section. I believe that some GP checkers have said that Pokemon with just one set can get rid of these team options on the set)
I thought that too, but apparently not. Check some of the later posts in Nidoqueen's thread. I'm not sure if a UU mod's response applies to the other C&C sections, but it could still be valid.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84117

edit: Okay, just keep the information to be safe. No real harm done in it.

edit: Cool, thanks Aeron! =)
 

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[Overview]

<p>When looking at Wynaut, you'd probably be asking yourself why this cute little creature was banished to the forbidden land that is of Ubers. With terrible stats, and the fact that Wobbuffet completely and utterly outclasses him, really the only reason why Wynaut is banned from standard play is his access to the taboo combo of Shadow Tag and Encore. However, he does have a minor perk over his big brother Wobbuffet in that his defenses are smaller, allowing him to activate Custap Berry faster, which, in and of itself, is a gimmick. So basically when it comes down to it, Wobbuffet is simply always the better option on a serious team.</p>

[SET]
name: Custap + Destiny Bond
move 1: Destiny Bond
move 2: Counter
move 3: Mirror Coat
move 4: Encore
item: Custap Berry
nature: Calm
evs: 152 HP / 180 Def / 176 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>The idea behind this set is to bring Wynaut in on your opponent's revenge killer after a kill, preferably one with a Choice Scarf, and trap it with Shadow Tag. Once trapped, Wynaut can appropriately use Counter or Mirror Coat to KO the opponent, and if all goes accordingly, leave himself with low enough HP for Custap Berry to activate the next turn. This will allow Wynaut to "outspeed" the opponent and take it down with Destiny Bond unless it uses a priority move. Wynaut can also Encore a support move from a wall and give a sweeper a free turn like Wobbuffet.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EVs give Wynaut maximum overall bulk, with some bias to the special side. This will allow Wynaut to always survive an unboosted Draco Meteor from Palkia and Dialga at full health. Wynaut will also survive an Outrage from Choice Scarf Garchomp, regardless of whether Stealth Rock is up or not, (remove comma) as well.</p>

<p>Since Wynaut's main attraction is his ability to trap and remove revenge killers, Pokemon that can take advantage of this are obvious teammates. Dragon Dance Rayquaza and Salamence can sweep without fear of being revenge killed with Choice Scarf Garchomp or Palkia out of the way, as is the case for Swords Dance Lucario and Rayquaza with Choice Scarf Dialga removed. Mewtwo and Darkrai can sweep more easily should Choice Band Scizor be eliminated (though Wynaut would be wise not to come in on a U-turn), and Rock Polish Groudon can plow through opposing teams should Choice Scarf Shaymin-S be removed (beware be wary of Air Slash's flinch chance). Note that Wynaut has problems taking out Choice Scarf Kyogre when it is locked into a Water-type move, so a Pokemon such as Latias or a Palkia of your own, who can deal with Choice Scarf Kyogre easily, are good to have.</p>

<p>Since priority moves can take out Wynaut after his Custap Berry has activated, Pokemon that switch well into common priority moves are good ideal teammates. Dialga, Salamence, Manaphy, and Kyogre can all set up on Scizor's Bullet Punch, while Darkrai and Tyranitar can easily put pressure on Giratina-O using Shadow Sneak. Strong Steel-types, (comma) such as Jirachi and Metagross, (comma) are also useful to take on Rayquaza and Deoxys-A, common users of ExtremesSpeed. Wynaut is also stopped cold by Taunt. Common users of Taunt in the Uber tier are Deoxys-S and Mewtwo. Scizor is a good choice to take on the both of them, as he can use U-turn to put them in a checkmate position, dealing massive damage to them if they stay in, and scouting out the switch-in if they switch-out (remove hyphen). Rapid Spin and dedicated anti-leads can also stop the set-up setup of entry hazards from whittling down Wynaut's health. Forretress is the premier Rapid Spinner in the Uber tier, while leads like Deoxys-S, Shaymin-S, and Darkrai can all prevent the opponent getting up entry hazards reliably.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Pokemon who enjoy the removal of many common revenge killers make excellent teammates to Wynaut. Dragon Dance Rayquaza and Salamence can sweep more easily with Choice Scarf Palkia removed, while Swords Dance Rayquaza and Lucario appreciate the enemy Choice Scarf Dialga being gone out of commission. Darkrai and Mewtwo also appreciate the removal of Scizor, while Rock Polish Groudon can sweep more easily with Choice Scarf Shaymin-S removed.</p>

<p>Pokemon that can take advantage of common priority attacks also make good great teammates to Wynaut. Dialga, Salamence, Manaphy, and Kyogre can all set up on Scizor locked into Bullet Punch, while Darkrai and Tyranitar can easily take advantage of Giratina-O using Shadow Sneak. Bulky Steel-types such as Jirachi and Metagross are good switch-ins to Rayquaza and Deoxys-A, common users of Extremespeed. Rapid Spin and anti-lead support help Wynaut as well, stopping Stealth Rock and Spikes from quickly depleting Wynaut's health. Forretress is the premier Rapid Spinner of the Uber tier, while Choice Scarf Shaymin-S and Choice Scarf Darkrai can usually stop opposing leads setting up Stealth Rock and Spikes.</p>
OK, so this paragraph is clearly just c/p'd from above. Try giving some different examples please.

<p>An interesting option would be to use Wobbuffet and Wynaut together on the same team, but that is a teamslot that could've been used for a more powerful sweeper or tank.</p>
What would the benefits of running both Wobbuffet and Wynaut together be? You say that you could do it, but you don't explain why you would.

[OPTIONAL CHANGES Optional Changes]

<p>Wynaut only has eight moves in his movepool, therefore he really doesn't have any other options it can run. Safeguard and Tickle are both done better by Wobbuffet.</p>

[COUNTERS Counters]

<p>Apart from using Shed Shell, U-turn, or Baton Pass, Wynaut cannot be countered since there is no way for the opponent to switch you to switch out of it. Essentially, use the same methods of dealing with Wobbuffet to defeat Wynaut. Taunt stops Wynaut cold, while putting him to sleep, or Tricking him a Choice item onto him, will cripple him greatly too. Generally, you'll end up losing a Pokemon to Wynaut simply because he catches you off-guard. The easiest way to take him out before he uses Destiny Bond on the second Pokemon is to send in a Pokemon with access to priority so you can finish him off before he is able to take another Pokemon down with him.</p>


Yep, not a lot to change here. Just try mixing up the Team Options section a little.

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[Overview]
<p>When looking at Wynaut, you'd probably be asking yourself why this cute little creature was banished to the forbidden land of Ubers. With terrible stats, and the fact that Wobbuffet completely and utterly outclasses him, really the only reason why Wynaut is banned from standard play is his access to the taboo combo of Shadow Tag and Encore. However, he does have a minor perk over his big brother Wobbuffet in that his defenses are smaller he has lower defensive stats, allowing him to activate Custap Berry faster, which, in and of itself, is a gimmick. So when it comes down to it, Wobbuffet is simply always the better option on a serious team.</p>

[SET]
name: Custap + Destiny Bond
move 1: Destiny Bond
move 2: Counter
move 3: Mirror Coat
move 4: Encore
item: Custap Berry
nature: Calm
evs: 152 HP / 180 Def / 176 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>The idea behind this set is to bring Wynaut in on your opponent's revenge killer after a kill, preferably one with a Choice Scarf, and trap it with Shadow Tag. Once they're trapped, Wynaut can then appropriately use Counter or Mirror Coat to KO the opponent, and if all goes accordingly, leave himself with low enough HP for Custap Berry to activate the next turn. This will allow Wynaut to "outspeed" the opponent and take it down with Destiny Bond unless it they use a priority move. Wynaut can also Encore a support move from a wall and give a sweeper on your team a free turn, much like Wobbuffet.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EVs give Wynaut maximum overall bulk, with some bias to towards the special side. This will allow Wynaut to always survive an unboosted Draco Meteor from Palkia and Dialga at full health. Wynaut will also survive an Outrage from Choice Scarf Garchomp, regardless of whether Stealth Rock is up or not as well.</p>

<p>Since Wynaut's main attraction is his ability to trap and remove revenge killers, Pokemon that can take advantage of this are obvious teammates. Dragon Dance Rayquaza and Salamence can sweep without fear of being revenge killed, once with Choice Scarf Garchomp or Palkia are out of the way, as is the case for Swords Dance Lucario and Rayquaza with once Choice Scarf Dialga is removed. Mewtwo and Darkrai can sweep more easily should Choice Band Scizor be eliminated (though Wynaut would be wise not to come in on a U-turn), and Rock Polish Groudon can plow through opposing teams should Choice Scarf Shaymin-S be removed (be wary of Air Slash's flinch chance). Note that Wynaut has problems taking out Choice Scarf Kyogre when it is locked into a Water-type move, so a Pokemon such as Latias or a Palkia of your own, who can deal with Choice Scarf Kyogre easily, are good to have.</p>

<p>Since priority moves can take out Wynaut even after his Custap Berry has activated, Pokemon that switch well into can stand up to common priority moves are ideal teammates. Dialga, Salamence, Manaphy, and Kyogre can all set up on Scizor's Bullet Punch, while Darkrai and Tyranitar can easily put pressure on a Giratina-O looking to use using Shadow Sneak. Strong Steel-types, such as Jirachi and Metagross, are also useful to take on Rayquaza and Deoxys-A, common users of ExtremeSpeed. Wynaut is also stopped cold by Taunt. Common users of Taunt in the Uber tier are Deoxys-S and Mewtwo. Scizor is a good choice to take on the both of them, as he can use U-turn to put them in a checkmate position, dealing massive damage to them if they stay in, and scouting out the switch-in if they switch out. Rapid Spin and dedicated anti-leads can also stop the set-up of entry hazards from whittling which can whittle down Wynaut's health. Forretress is the premier Rapid Spinner in the Uber tier, while leads like Deoxys-S, Shaymin-S, and Darkrai can all prevent the opponent getting up entry hazards reliably.</p>

[Team Options]
<p>Pokemon who enjoy the removal of many common revenge killers make excellent teammates to Wynaut. Dragon Dance Rayquaza and Salamence can sweep more easily with Choice Scarf Palkia removed, while Swords Dance Rayquaza and Lucario appreciate opposing Choice Scarf Dialga being out of commission. Darkrai and Mewtwo also appreciate the removal of Scizor, while Rock Polish Groudon can sweep more easily with Choice Scarf Shaymin-S removed.</p>

<p>Pokemon that can take advantage of common priority attacks also make good teammates to Wynaut. In addition to the Pokemon mentioned above, Ho-Oh and Choice Specs Palkia can switch in on Scizor's Bullet Punch and proceed to wreak havoc. Dark Arceus can switch into Giratina-O's Shadow Sneak from Giratina-O and set up Calm Mind, while Steel and Rock Arceus can switch into ExtremeSpeed from Rayquaza and Deoxys-A.</p>

<p>An interesting option would be to use Wobbuffet and Wynaut together on the same team. You can use Wynaut to take out revenge killers, while using Wobbuffet can provide to provide free turns for your own sweeper to set up. However, this is a teamslot that could've been used for a more powerful sweeper or tank.</p>

[Optional Changes]
<p>Wynaut only has eight moves in his movepool, therefore he really doesn't have any other options it can to run. Safeguard and Tickle are both done better by Wobbuffet.</p>

[Counters]
<p>Apart from using Shed Shell, U-turn, or Baton Pass, Wynaut cannot be countered since there is no way for you to switch out of it. Essentially, use the same methods of dealing with Wobbuffet to defeat Wynaut. Taunt stops Wynaut cold, while putting him to sleep, or Tricking a Choice item onto him will cripple him greatly too. Generally, you'll end up losing a Pokemon to Wynaut simply because he catches you off-guard. The easiest way to take him out before he uses Destiny Bond on the second Pokemon is to send in a Pokemon with access to priority so you can finish him off before he is able to take another Pokemon down with him.</p>


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