Other Metagames [1v1] what the fuck are those sets

Let me say this right now: I can't come up with good team names. So let me just say that this team started as an experiment for Z-Copycat and eventually became Mimikyu/Kyub Z-spam just to get out of lower ladder. Then once I got to a place where I felt comfortable, I went full gimmick mode and decided to fulfill my dream of making Magneton the key mon on this team.

new (Magneton) @ Electrium Z
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Zap Cannon (190 BP Gigavolt Havoc)
- Electroweb
- Sleep Talk / Flash Cannon / Hidden Power Something
- Metal Sound

Let's face it. This thing isn't beating any grounds. You might as well give up and run Sleep Talk to have a better chance of beating Yawn / Venusaur or a Hidden Power to beat, idk, Ferrothorn? Z-Zap Cannon has a 100% chance of OHKOing bulky Gyarados-Mega at -0, Mawile-Mega at -0, as well as Snorlax at -2. Electroweb chips fast stuff that's just out of range of Z-Zap Cannon.

Replays:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen71v1-559497965
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen71v1-559503752
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen71v1-559507116

ned (Heatran) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 56 HP / 252 SpA / 200 Spe
Mild Nature
- Overheat
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Stone Edge / Flash Cannon / Crunch / Dragon Pulse / Earth Power (Pick 2)


A stupid set that probably nobody's considered. Yes it's good. Hidden Power Ice lets you bop some non-scarfed grounds that Kyub has trouble with, like Groundium Z Garchomp. Overheat is Overheat and does a lot to neutral targets. EVs are for modest Tapu Koko. If you want to run physical moves then move the HP to attack.

Replays:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen71v1-558921648
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen71v1-559507912

old (Kyurem-Black) @ Haban Berry
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 188 Atk / 68 SpA / 252 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Fusion Bolt
- Ice Beam
- Outrage
- Earth Power / Hidden Power [Fire]

This has lost a lot of its utility with the prominence of bulky Gyarados. It's still good, but it loses out on the charm it had in gen 6. This is pretty much self-explanatory. Earth Power vs HP Fire depends on what sets are being used on that specific day.

Replay:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen71v1-559505048


Also, a bonus Z-Copycat replay: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen71v1-554963754
 
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Peaceable

Banned deucer.
Your team was good, I just want to tell you about your Magnezone, Thunder would be better than Zap Cannon because if Gigavolt Havoc does not give K.O, you will have another movement with a better accuracy, Zap Cannon has only 50% accuracy, you can make a mistake and lose the match, the difference of power pro Zap Cannon and the Thunder in Z-Move, are only 5, that does not make so much difference, Electroweb is not very useful in this set because even if you get a pokémon faster than you have Earthquake, your opponent will simply win,
Sleep Talk is good in this moveset and Metal Sound is okay, which Hidden Power do you prefer in this moveset, it would be good to evaluate, I recommend fire or ice.
The heatran set is not bad either, but I recommend you either switch Overheat over a Fire Blast or add a Fire Blast in this moveset, you can not KO and lower your SpA and that's not cool, especially when the Pokemon has Recover.
And finally, the set of your Kyurem-Black is quite good, I have a suggestion of item, in case you want to change the Haban Berry, you can add a Choice Scarf that will not make a difference, maybe it's even better.

Thank You :)
 
Your team was good, I just want to tell you about your Magnezone, Thunder would be better than Zap Cannon because if Gigavolt Havoc does not give K.O, you will have another movement with a better accuracy, Zap Cannon has only 50% accuracy, you can make a mistake and lose the match, the difference of power pro Zap Cannon and the Thunder in Z-Move, are only 5, that does not make so much difference,

Believe it or not, that 5 power makes the difference in OHKOing Mawile-Mega unboosted. Additionally, Zap Cannon is only ever used without its Z-crystal for the Paralysis, and Zap Cannon has a 50% Para chance vs Thunder's 21%. When I need an accurate move, I use Electroweb or Gigavolt Havoc.
Electroweb is not very useful in this set because even if you get a pokémon faster than you have Earthquake, your opponent will simply win,
Magneton is not designed to beat Ground types. It's okay if my set is completely walled by Grounds because a) Most grounds beat Magneton anyway, with Sturdy + Priority (or they can simply live its coverage move) and b) Unlike in other tiers, the opponent can't switch in a Ground type to eat up all momentum. They're stuck once they chose their poke and Magneton is designed to beat as many of those other pokes as possible.
Sleep Talk is good in this moveset and Metal Sound is okay, which Hidden Power do you prefer in this moveset, it would be good to evaluate, I recommend fire or ice.
The Hidden Power you use depends on what people are running on specific days. For instance, there's someone using Counter Quagsire on ladder now, so I switched to Hidden Power Grass. If there's a lot of Ferrothorn, switch to HP Fire etc. 1v1 laddering is VERY counterteam-heavy, and this team can easily adapt and counterteam others depending on the situation.
The heatran set is not bad either, but I recommend you either switch Overheat over a Fire Blast or add a Fire Blast in this moveset, you can not KO and lower your SpA and that's not cool, especially when the Pokemon has Recover.
Heatran isn't able to beat special walls even with Fire Blast, because this set is choiced and lacks a wallbreaking move like Taunt. The extra power of Overheat is much appreciated anyway, as Fire Blast misses a key KO on Tapu Koko, which otherwise auto-wins against this team. (Earth Power does not OHKO) Additionally, Fire Blast's accuracy makes some matchups unreliable.
And finally, the set of your Kyurem-Black is quite good, I have a suggestion of item, in case you want to change the Haban Berry, you can add a Choice Scarf that will not make a difference, maybe it's even better.
Haban Berry is used because it allows me to have a near 100% chance of beating all opposing Kyurem-Black, regardless of their sets, which is amazing because this team lures in Kyu-B like nothing else. Never have I found myself wishing I had a Choice Scarf instead of a Haban berry.
 

Peaceable

Banned deucer.
Yes, your team looked great, those were just suggestions, but I really would take Electroweb out of Magnezone
 

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