5v5 FE Doubles between Akela and Zhengtann

I... apologize for all of the errors I've been making. If I was just a newbie who was only making mistakes related to the mechanics of the game that would be one thing, but the last error, for example, was nothing more than carelessness. I have fixed the problem in the post before which akela pointed out, and I would like to make an offer. Both of you have helped with reffing this match- if either of you want, I would be more than willing to share some of the UC with you. Just name the amount of UC that you want at the end, and I would be happy to share- I'd rather have that done than have anyone irritated with me or thinking that I'm a troll.
 
Ferrothorn @ Weakness Policy

Cradily: Sludge Wave > Sludge Bomb (Meganium) > Sludge Wave
IF Meganium is under the effects of a Protective/Evasive Maneuver, THEN Headbutt (Haxorus) instead.

IF Meganium is KOed, THEN change remaining actions to Stone Edge (Haxorus) > Rock Slide (Haxorus) > Stone Edge (Haxorus)

Ferrothorn: Poison Jab (Meganium) > Pin Missile (Meganium) > Poison Jab (Meganium)
IF Meganium is under the effects of a Protective/Evasive Maneuver, THEN Gyro Ball (Haxorus) instead.

IF Meganium is KOed, THEN change remaining actions to Leech Seed (Haxorus) > Gyro Ball (Haxorus) > Iron Head (Haxorus)
 

ZhengTann

Nargacuga
is a Forum Moderator Alumnus
Carelessness happens to all of us (I know that it still definitely applies to me), and you're still considered new in comparison to us. It's pretty obvious, that these are all honest mistakes made by new referees, and heck I've made more than my share back in my time, so don't worry about it. I'll let you in on a secret - half the time any ASB reffing went by without corrections is due to the fact that battlers didn't double-check the referee's calcs. In this match, you actually have both of us checking yours :P

And no, as much as I love the notion, referees are not supposed to share UC with battlers. But I think akela has probably explained that to you on IRC.
Remember that Haxorus is now at 45/45 HP/EN.

"Boo yeah we did- Wendy are you alright?"

"I'm- I'm okay. I'll just take a break from the battle-"

"OI, YOU TWO!! Come and face me instead!"
Natsu (Haxorus w/ Expert Belt): Brick Break > X-Scissor + Aerial Ace {Fire Dragon's Wing Attack!!} > combo cooldown (Brick Break), all @ Biollante-Cradily
IF Biollante-Cradily is KO'ed, THEN replace that action with Chill instead.

Wendy (Meganium w/ Rare Candy): Chill > Synthesis > Chill
 
Yeah... looking back on it, I might have overreacted a bit. I'm sorry- I guess I have a tendency to panic when I make mistakes and assume the outcome will be worse than it is. In this case I was worrying people might think I was a troll or be irritated with me otherwise, and I immediately wanted to prevent that without thinking about how realistic I was being. I've done similar stuff in real life- your reaction was probably similar to that of a high school teacher's whose tests I always got A's on when I told him I always panicked about wondering if I'd fail his tests after I took them. Panicking about unrealistic outcomes when I make minor mistakes is a personality flaw I need to work on- I hope that the minor drama I created wasn't too big of a deal.


The above is just a bit more or a long-winded version of me apologizing for creating unnecessary drama. And thank you again for helping me with my mistakes, and especially thanks to ZhengTann for his comment in his hide tag. Anyway, let's now get on with the reffing!

ZhengTann's pokemon
Erza the Stratagem
HP: 29
EN: 68
Status: None
Item: Focus Sash (broken)

Lucario
HP: 22
EN: 50
Status: None
Item: Soothe Bell


ZhengTann's pokemon:
Natsu the Haxorus
HP: 45
EN: 45
Status: None
Item: Expert Belt
2 KOC

Wendy the Meganium
HP: 72
EN: 15
Status: Infestation (3a)
Item: Rare Candy
1 KOC

Akela's pokemon:
Biollante the Cradily
HP: 38.25
EN: 60
Status: +6 Atk (permanent)
Item: Root Fossil

Litter the Ferrothorn
HP: 100
EN: 100
Status: None
Item: Weakness Policy

Field: Stealth Rocks on Akela's side of the Field.
Intense Sunlight for 1 Round.
Reflect on ZhengTann's side of the field (3a).

Speed Order: Haxorus, Meganium, Cradily, Ferrothorn

Akela sends Ferrothorn out, and the Stealth Rocks do 9 damage!

a1
Haxorus uses Brick Break (Cradily)!
RNG to Crit: 8393/10000=No.
(BAP:8-Rivalry:2+Expert Belt:2+ARB:9-DRB:6)*1.5=16.5
-10 EN!

Meganium Chills!
Meganium regains 12 EN!

Cradily uses Sludge Wave!
RNG to Crit (Haxorus):8764/10000=No.
RNG for Effect Chance (Haxorus):3852/10000=No.
((BAP:10*.75)+ARB:6-DRB:4.5)=9 (Haxorus)
RNG to Crit (Meganium):4651/10000=No.
((BAP:10*.75)+ARB:6-DRB:6-Rare Candy:1.5)*1.5=11.25 (Meganium)
-7 EN!

Ferrothorn uses Poison Jab (Meganium)!
RNG to Crit: 6815/10000=No.
((BAP:8*Reflect:(2/3))+ARB:6-DRB:6-Rare Candy:1.5)*1.5=5.75
-6 EN!

Meganium is hurt by the Infestation (-2 HP)!

a2
Haxorus uses Fire Dragon's Wing Attack (X-Scissor+Aerial Ace) (Cradily)!
RNG to Crit:4461/10000=No.
(BAP:8+6-Rivalry:2+Expert Belt:2+ARB:9-DRB:6)*1.5=25.5
-1.5*(4+6)=15 EN!

Cradily is KOed!

Meganium uses Synthesis!
Meganium gains 30 HP!
-(100/10)+5=15 EN!

Ferrothorn uses Pin Missile (Meganium)!
RNG to hit:9436/10000=Yes.
RNG for multi-hit:2/6=2 hits.
RNG for first to Crit:7150/10000=No.
RNG for second to Crit:1404/10000=No.
(((BAP:3*2)*Reflect:(2/3))+ARB:6-DRB:6-Rare Candy:1.5)*1.5=3.75
-7 EN!

Meganium is hurt by the Infestation (-2 HP)!

a3
Haxorus is cooling down!

Meganium Chills!
Meganium regains 12 EN!

Ferrothorn uses Poison Jab (Meganium)!
RNG to Crit:5216/10000=No.
((BAP:8*Reflect:(2/3))+ARB:6-DRB:6-Rare Candy:1.5)*1.5=5.75
-6 EN!

Meganium is hurt by the Infestation (-2 HP)!

The Reflect wears off!
The intense sunlight goes away!
Meganium is freed from the Infestation!


ZhengTann's pokemon:
Natsu the Haxorus
HP: 36
EN:20
Status: None
Item: Expert Belt
3 KOC

Wendy the Meganium
HP: 69
EN: 24
Status: None
Item: Rare Candy
1 KOC

Akela's pokemon:
Biollante the Cradily
HP: KO
EN: KO
Status: KO
Item: Root Fossil

Litter the Ferrothorn
HP: 91
EN: 81
Status: None
Item: Weakness Policy

Field: Stealth Rocks on Akela's side of the Field.

ZhengTann orders first.
akela orders second.
 

ZhengTann

Nargacuga
is a Forum Moderator Alumnus

"Last man standing! I'm gonna take you one on one!"

"Natsu, be careful!"
Natsu (Haxorus w/ Expert Belt): Taunt > Rock Slide (Litter-Ferrothorn) > Chill
IF Litter-Ferrothorn is under the effects of Protective/Evasive moves, THEN replace that action with Chill instead, pushing remaining queue back.
IF Litter-Ferrothorn would use a damaging Steel-type combo AND targeted at Natsu-Haxorus, THEN replace that action with Substitute (15HP) and the next with Chill instead, pushing remaining queue back.


Wendy (Meganium w/ Rare Candy): Reflect > Mud-Slap (Litter-Ferrothorn) > Chill
IF Litter-Ferrothorn is under the effects of Substitute @ A2, THEN replace that action with Chill instead.
 
ZhengTann's pokemon:

Natsu the Haxorus
HP: 36
EN:20
Status: None
Item: Expert Belt
3 KOC


Wendy the Meganium
HP: 69
EN: 24
Status: None
Item: Rare Candy
1 KOC


Litter the Ferrothorn
HP: 91
EN: 81
Status: None
Item: Weakness Policy

Field: Stealth Rocks on Akela's side of the Field.

Speed Order: Haxorus, Meganium, Ferrothorn

a1
Haxorus uses Taunt!
Ferrothorn is taunted!
-10 EN!

Meganium uses Reflect!
-10 EN!

Ferrothorn uses Poison Jab (Meganium)!
RNG to Crit: 7960/10000=No.
RNG for Effect Chance: 6950/10000=No.
((BAP:8*Reflect:(2/3))+ARB:6-DRB:6-Rare Candy:1.5)*1.5=5.75
-10 EN!

a2
Haxorus uses Rock Slide!
RNG to Crit: 8634/10000=No.
RNG for Effect Chance: 8953/10000=No.
(BAP:8+Rivalry:2+ARB:9-DRB:7.5)*.67=7.705
-6 EN!

Meganium uses Mud-Slap!
RNG to Crit: 6332/10000=No.
(BAP:4+ARB:6-DRB:7.5)=2.5
Ferrothorn's accuracy is lowered by one stage!
-4+1=5 EN!

Ferrothorn uses Aerial Ace (Meganium)!
RNG to crit: 9082/10000=No.
((BAP:6*Reflect(2/3))+ARB:6-DRB:6-Rare Candy:1.5)*1.5=3.75
-4 EN!

a3
Haxorus Chills!
Haxorus regains 12 EN!

Meganium Chills!
Meganium regains 12 EN!

Ferrothorn uses Poison Jab (Meganium)!
RNG to Hit: 6356/10000=Yes.
RNG to Crit: 1157/10000=No.
RNG for Effect Chance: 4435/10000=No.
((BAP:8*Reflect:(2/3))+ARB:6-DRB:6-Rare Candy:1.5)*1.5=5.75
-6 EN!


ZhengTann's pokemon:

Natsu the Haxorus:
HP: 36
EN: 16
Status: None
Item: Expert Belt
3 KOC


Wendy the Meganium:
HP: 54
EN: 21
Status: None
Item: Rare Candy
1 KOC

Akela's pokemon:

Litter the Ferrothorn:
HP: 81
Status: Taunted (3a), Accuracy lowered by one stage.
Item: Weakness Policy

Field: Stealth Rocks on Akela's side of the field.
Reflect on ZhengTann's side of the field (3a).

akela orders first.
ZhengTann orders second.
 

ZhengTann

Nargacuga
is a Forum Moderator Alumnus
Time to use up all of Meganium's Chills.

"Come on! Stop going after Wendy!"

"Don't worry, Natsu, I'll lure him over there!"
Natsu (Haxorus w/ Expert Belt): Chill > Endeavour (Litter-Ferrothorn) > Chill

Wendy (Meganium w/ Rare Candy): Chill > Mud-Slap (Litter-Ferrothorn) > Chill
 
ZhengTann's pokemon:

Natsu the Haxorus:
HP: 36
EN: 16
Status: None
Item: Expert Belt
3 KOC


Wendy the Meganium:
HP: 54
EN: 21
Status: None
Item: Rare Candy
1 KOC

Akela's pokemon:

Litter the Ferrothorn:
HP: 81
EN: 61
Status: Taunted (3a), Accuracy lowered by one stage.
Item: Weakness Policy

Field: Stealth Rocks on Akela's side of the field.
Reflect on ZhengTann's side of the field (3a).

Speed Order: Haxorus, Meganium, Ferrothorn

a1
Haxorus Chills!
Haxorus regains 12 EN!

Meganium Chills!
Meganium regains 12 EN!

Ferrothorn uses Aerial Ace (Meganium)!
RNG to Crit: 1689/10000=No.
((BAP:6*Reflect(2/3))+ARB:6-DRB:6-Rare Candy:1.5)*1.5=3.75
-4 EN!

a2
Haxorus uses Endeavor!
RNG to Crit: 6104/10000=No.
((BAP:(81-36)/2)+Rivalry:2+ARB:9-DRB:7.5)*.67=17.42
-6+(17.42/1.5)=17.613 EN!

Meganium uses Mud-Slap!
RNG to Crit: 6478/10000=No.
(BAP:4+ARB:6-DRB:7.5)=2.5
Ferrothorn's accuracy is lowered by one stage!
-4+1=5 EN!

Ferrothorn uses Poison Jab (Meganium)
RNG to Hit: 9318/10000=No.
-6 EN!

a3
Haxorus Chills!
Haxorus regains 12 EN!

Meganium Chills!
Meganium regains 12 EN!

Ferrothorn uses Aerial Ace!
RNG to Crit: 1262/10000=No.
((BAP:6*Reflect(2/3))+ARB:6-DRB:6-Rare Candy:1.5)*1.5=3.75
-4 EN!

Ferrothorn's Taunt wears off!
The Reflect wears off!
Ferrothorn's accuracy drop from the previous round decays!


ZhengTann's pokemon:

Natsu the Haxorus:
HP: 36
EN: 22
Status: None
Item: Expert Belt
3 KOC


Wendy the Meganium:
HP: 46
EN: 40
Status: None
Item: Rare Candy
1 KOC

Akela's pokemon:

Litter the Ferrothorn:
HP: 61
EN: 47
Status: Accuracy lowered by one stage.
Item: Weakness Policy

Field: Stealth Rocks on Akela's side of the field.

ZhengTann orders first.
akela orders second.

Edit: And here's the point where I make the corrections. If only there were some legal way to materially thank the participants for their help in reffing... I really do appreciate the help.

Haxorus uses Endeavor!
BAP:(81-36)/2)=22.5
-6+(22.5/1.5)=21 EN!
Haxorus is hurt by the Iron Barbs!
22.5/4=5.625

ZhengTann's pokemon:

Natsu the Haxorus:
HP: 30
EN: 19
Status: None
Item: Expert Belt
3 KOC



Wendy the Meganium:
HP: 46
EN: 40
Status: None
Item: Rare Candy
1 KOC

Akela's pokemon:

Litter the Ferrothorn:
HP: 56
EN: 47
Status: Accuracy lowered by two stages.
Item: Weakness Policy
 
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ZhengTann

Nargacuga
is a Forum Moderator Alumnus
Endeavor does fixed damage. It's one of those moves where you don't have to factor anything else, so it deals (81-36)/2 = 22.5 damage flat. Also you forgot Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs ability, so with Endeavor it deals 5.625 damage in recoil to Haxorus. Post-round, you should have Ferro at 56 HP, Haxorus at 30 HP. Also Ferro should be at -2 Accuracy since Mud-Slap locks it from decaying.
Ballsy play time (should've done this a round ago). Switch phase initiated. Erza (Stratagem w/ Focus Sash) coming in to replace Natsu (Haxorus w/ Expert Belt).

"I'm gonna bust you-"

*whoosh* "There, his most potent weapon is now finally neutralise."

"But I was here firs-"

*Do. You. Have. A. Problem?"

*gulp* "No."
Erza (Stratagem w/ Focus Sash): Trick > Heat Wave > Flamethrower, all @-Litter Ferrothorn
IF Litter-Ferrothorn is under the effects of Protective/Evasive moves, THEN replace that action with Calm Mind instead, pushing remaining queue back.
IF Litter-Ferrothorn would use a damaging Steel-type combo AND targeted at Erza-Stratagem, THEN replace that action with Substitute (15HP) instead, pushing remaining queue back.


Wendy (Meganium w/ Rare Candy): Reflect > Mimic (Erza-Stratagem's Heat Wave) > Mud-Slap (Litter-Ferrothorn)
IF Litter-Ferrothorn is under the effects of Protective/Evasive moves at A3, THEN replace A3 with Sunny Day instead.
IF Erza-Stratagem is KO'ed by the time Mimic would be used, THEN replace Mimic with Earthquake instead.
 
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ZhengTann's pokemon

Lucario
HP: 22
EN: 50
Status: None
Item: Soothe Bell


Natsu the Haxorus:
HP: 30
EN: 19
Status: None
Item: Expert Belt
3 KOC


ZhengTann's Pokemon:

Erza the Stratagem
HP: 29
EN: 68
Status: None
Item: Focus Sash (broken)



Wendy the Meganium:
HP: 46
EN: 40
Status: None
Item: Rare Candy
1 KOC

Akela's pokemon:

Litter the Ferrothorn:
HP: 56
EN: 47
Status: Accuracy lowered by two stages.
Item: Weakness Policy

Field: Stealth Rocks on Akela's side of the field.

Speed Order: Stratagem, Meganium, Ferrothorn.

a1
Stratagem uses Trick!
Ferrothorn obtains a focus sash, and Stratagem obtains a weakness policy!
-7 EN!

Meganium uses Reflect!
-10 EN!

Ferrothorn uses Gyro Ball (Stratagem)!
RNG to Hit: 2926/10000=Yes.
RNG to Crit: 5089/10000=No.
(BAP:5-+(130-17)/10)=16.3, max 15 so (15*(2/3)+ARB:6-DRB:4.5)*1.5=17.25
-7 EN!
Stratagem's Weakness Policy is activated!

a2
Stratagem uses Heat Wave!
RNG to Crit: 4526/10000=No.
RNG for Effect Chance: 6108/10000=No.
(BAP:10-Focus Sash:2+ARB:9-DRB:7.5)*2.25+(Stage Boost:2*2)=25.375
-7 EN!

Meganium uses Mimic (Heat Wave)!
RNG to Crit: 4463/10000=No.
RNG for Effect Chance: 4029/10000=No.
(BAP:10-Focus Sash:2+ARB:6-DRB:7.5)*2.25=14.625
-5 EN!
Ferrothorn's focus sash is broken!

Ferrothorn uses Gyro Ball (Stratagem)!
RNG to Hit: 4012/10000=Yes.
RNG to Crit: 2462/10000=No.
(BAP:5+(130-17)/10)=16.3, max 15 so (15*Reflect:(2/3)+ARB:6-DRB:4.5)*1.5=17.25
-11 EN!

Stratagem is KOed!

a3
Meganium uses Mud-Slap!
RNG to Crit: 2914/10000=No.
(BAP:4+ARB:6-DRB:7.5)=2.5
Ferrothorn's accuracy is lowered by one stage!
-4+3=7 EN!

Ferrothorn uses Gyro Ball (Stratagem)!
But Stratagem is already KOed...
-15 EN!


ZhengTann's Pokemon:

Erza the Stratagem
HP: KO
EN: KO
Status: KO
Item: Weakness Policy (activated)



Wendy the Meganium:
HP: 46
EN: 18
Status: None
Item: Rare Candy
1 KOC

Akela's pokemon:

Litter the Ferrothorn:
HP: 13
EN: 14
Status: Accuracy lowered by three stages.
Item: Focus Sash (broken)
1 KOC

Field: Stealth Rocks on Akela's side of the field.
Reflect on ZhengTann's side of the field (3a).

ZhengTann sends out and equips replacement for Stratagem.
akela orders first.
ZhengTann orders second.

Edit: Here are my corrections. Again, your help is invaluable- and I was notified by Avnomke in another battle I was reffing that I should tag the next player when I make corrections, so tagging akela to let him know it's fixed. Also, I didn't have Ferrothorn at 33 HP like ZhengTann said, but that's because Ferrothorn's focus sash was unbroken when Meganium used Mud Slap, and so I factored that into the equation.

a2
Stratagem uses Heat Wave!
RNG to Crit: 4526/10000=No.
RNG for Effect Chance: 6108/10000=No.
(BAP:10-Anticipation:2-Focus Sash:2+ARB:9-DRB:7.5)*2.25+(Stage Boost:2*2)=20.875
-7 EN!

Meganium uses Mimic (Heat Wave)!
Meganium learns the move Heat Wave!
-5 EN!

a3
Meganium uses Mud-Slap!
RNG to Crit: 2914/10000=No.
(BAP:4-Focus Sash:2+ARB:6-DRB:7.5)=.5
Ferrothorn's accuracy is lowered by one stage!
-4+3=7 EN!

Wendy the Meganium:
HP: 46
EN: 18
Status: Mimic (Heat Wave)
Item: Rare Candy
1 KOC

Akela's pokemon:

Litter the Ferrothorn:
HP: 35
EN: 14
Status: Accuracy lowered by three stages.
Item: Focus Sash
1 KOC
 
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ZhengTann

Nargacuga
is a Forum Moderator Alumnus
Mimic doesn't allow Meganium to use Heat Wave A2 - it just allows it to "learn" the move for the duration of the battle. Also, Ferrothorn has Anticipation, an ability that grants -2 BAP to incoming SE attacks. Therefore, Stratagem's Heat Wave does 20.875 damage, and Ferrothorn is left with 33 HP post-round.

"Okay now it's your-"

"Geehee, sorry I was late to the party."

*-turn, Nat- Gajeel"

"Bu-but hey, it's supposed to be my turn!"
Gajeel (Honchkrow w/ Scope Lens) coming in.
 

ZhengTann

Nargacuga
is a Forum Moderator Alumnus
Oh right, I missed Focus Sash on Mud-Slap.

"Now you just stay there and watch how a rumble really gets done."

"Why you cheater-"
Gajeel (Honchkrow w/ Scope Lens): Heat Wave > Superpower > Heat Wave, all @ Litter-Ferrothorn

Wendy (Meganium w/ Rare Candy): Heat Wave > Earthquake > Heat Wave, all @ Litter-Ferrothorn
 
ZhengTann's pokemon

Lucario
HP: 22
EN: 50
Status: None
Item: Soothe Bell


Natsu the Haxorus:
HP: 30
EN: 19
Status: None
Item: Expert Belt
3 KOC


ZhengTann's pokemon:

Wendy the Meganium:
HP: 46
EN: 18
Status: Mimic (Heat Wave)
Item: Rare Candy
1 KOC

Gajeel the Honchkrow

HP: 110
EN: 100
Status: None
Item: Scope Lens

Akela's pokemon:

Litter the Ferrothorn:
HP: 35
EN: 14
Status: Accuracy lowered by three stages.
Item: Focus Sash
1 KOC

Field: Stealth Rocks on Akela's side of the field.
Reflect on ZhengTann's side of the field (3a).

Speed Order: Honchkrow, Meganium, Ferrothorn

a1
Honchkrow uses Heat Wave!
RNG to Hit: 5438/10000=Yes.
RNG to Crit: 1410/10000=Yes.
RNG for Effect Chance: 9816/10000=No.
(BAP:10-Anticipation:2-Focus Sash:2+Crit:3+ARB:7.5-DRB:7.5)*2.25=20.25
Ferrothorn's Focus Sash is broken!
-7 EN!

Meganium uses Heat Wave!
RNG to Hit: 5953/10000=Yes.
RNG to Crit: 2444/10000=No.
RNG for Effect Chance: 6940/10000=No.
(BAP:10-Anticipation:2+ARB:6-DRB:7.5)*2.25=14.625
-7 EN!

Ferrothorn is KOed!


ZhengTann's pokemon:

Wendy the Meganium:
HP: 46
EN: 11
Status: Mimic (Heat Wave)
Item: Rare Candy
2 KOC

Gajeel the Honchkrow

HP: 110
EN: 93
Status: None
Item: Scope Lens

Akela's pokemon:

Litter the Ferrothorn:
HP: KO
EN: KO
Status: KO
Item: Focus Sash (broken)
1 KOC

ZhengTann is the winner!

ZhengTann gains 4 CC.

Natsu the Haxorus gains:
+3 MC.
+3 KOC.

Gray the Lucario gains:
+3 MC.

Wendy the Meganium gains:
+3 MC.
+2 KOC.

Erza the Stratagem gains:
+3 MC.

Gajeel the Honchkrow gains:
+3 MC.

akela gains 4 CC.

Dahlia the Lilligant gains:
+3 MC.

Litter the Ferrothorn gains:
+3 MC.
+1 KOC.

Spice the Florges gains:
+3 MC.

Candy Floss the Slurpuff gains:
+3 MC.

Biollante the Cradily gains:
+3 MC.

Ref gains:
21 UC.

Edit: Akela pointed out on IRC that three of his pokemon are maxed, and thus he obtains extra CC and no MC for them.

Spice the Florges gains:
+3 extra CC for akela.

Candy Floss the Slurpuff gains:
+3 extra CC for akela.

Biollante the Cradily gains:
+5 extra CC for akela.

With this additional CC, akela gains a total of 15 CC.
 
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