So I think this was Eo's idea but I lost the conversation and so I've probably horribly butchered it. Eo, if I'm way off on this, lemme know so I can try to start a different kind of thread. This is just an interest thread for a debate game while we wait on some kind of verdict on Landorus's status. I'll list the rules below. - The OU Mods and I select 5 users for each side. We'd choose who by using categories like prior debating experience, legitimate playing experience, etc. The point is we want 10 of Smogon's best users duking it out. - The debate will either fully be on Rain, or it would be on a multitude of current controversial subjects in OU. I think focusing on Rain would be better at first because it's highly controversial but if interest is high or we choose a certain variation of scoring, we could really do everything. - I will totally link the logical fallacies page that was in whistle's sig before, that was totally awesome ONCE I GET IT, if not there's like 1000 I can link from online. EDIT: LINK IM JUST USING RBGS: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ - It's undecided on how the actual scoring or gameplay would work. Some ideas: Each person involved posts one opening post, and then selects one opposing post to respond to? Points awarded by the moderators and myself? The debate cycles through all 10 people, at the end of the round we award points on who had the best response/post. End Result 1: Each member with the lowest points for each group is eliminated? Variation [End Result 2]: Each group votes on 1 group member to eliminate or comes to a consensus on weakest link? A low moderated debate with a 3 strike system where debaters act freely. They can post what they want but if they use logical fallacies or don't put legitimate content in their post, they're given a strike. Maybe just each side is scored at the end, the scores tallied together and one group wins? I REALLY DONT KNOW THERES LIKE 1000 BETTER WAYS PROBABLY, PLEASE POST ;_____; - The people chosen do the debates and it's all good and shit and just an idea of some possible awards: Community Contributor PR Access if it isn't already granted Custom Titles Props from me, maybe we'll do something on Facebook/YT/etc about you being a debating stud? These debates serve a few purposes ideally: - A fun way for people to learn how to debate and argue more efficiently - Higher level discussion on aspects of the metagame for Council / public consideration - A compiled list of the arguments for and against these aspects - I DONT HAVE TO DO TOO MUCH WORK :naughty::naughty::naughty: Post if you're interested and we'll see about setting this up. Just to make it clear, if we do these, the floor is open only to people selected, the point is for you newer guys or inexperienced guys to actually get a legitimate experience by watching these guys at work. I hope they don't suck but I have a lot of faith in our users, if we have the interest.