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[OVERVIEW]
- Primal Groudon is a Ground/Fire bulky Tank capable of taking and dealing massive amounts of damage.
- Primal Groudon is extremely versatile, having many sets and few Checks and Counters.
- Primal Groudon's stabs alone hit the tier for neutral coverage, so it does not need to run other coverage.
- Needs to avoid taking Water and Special hits.
- Needs Choice Scarf to beat common offense threats, but being choice locked barely hinders Groudon due to it's great STAB coverage.
name: Mold Breaker
move 1: V-Create/Sacred Fire
move 2: Thousand Arrows
move 3: Pursuit
move 4: Trick/U-Turn/Filler
item: Choice Scarf / Choice Band/Rocky Helmet/Safety Goggles
ability: Mold Breaker
nature: Adamant/Lonely/Naughty
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Speed
[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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- V-Create is the most powerful move if the game and maximizes damage output at the cost of Defense, Special Defense, and Speed. However the OHKO potential is usually worth it.
- Thousand Arrows has neutral coverage on the whole tier, and is a more spammable option then V-Create.
- U-Turn gains momentum, and can slowly wear down counters.
- Trick cripples walls by locking them into a move.
- King's Shield lower's the opponent's attack on contact, and can help scout.
- Pursuit Traps Shedinja and OHKOs due to mold breaker, so Groudon can always defeat Sheddy unless it switches out the same turn Groudon switches in. Can also trap Aegislash, whom Groudon often forces out.
Set Details
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- The 252 Attack evs make Don hit as hard and possible, this is boosted by the nature. 252 Speed evs make Primal Don as fast as possible. the Speed evs are optional on the Band set, and can be replaced by HP evs.
- The Scarf set is capable of outspeeding Timid Mega Mewtwo Y.
Usage Tips
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- V-Create should be reserved for when it is 100% necessary since Groudon is often forced to switch after using it and has low PP.
- Thousand Arrows has zero relevant resists thanks to the built in Smack Down affect. This is your primary method of Attack.
- U-Turn is highly useful, momentum and scouting extremely important to winning in BH, and U-Turn does both.
- Scouting is key, don't take unnecessary risks with Groudon. If you think your opponent can beat you, switch out.
- Burns help Groudon wear down his checks and counters faster.
Team Options
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- Rayquaza-Mega is an excellent partner to Primal Groudon due to Primal Groudon and
Rayquaza-Mega beating each others' counters. - Giratina can switch into Water/Ground stacks for Groudon. It also helps imposter proof your team.
- Gengar-Mega can set up on Groudon's main counters, Slowbro and Giratina.
- It is highly recommended you run a counter to Groudon on your team to prevent Imposter Chansey from doing damage.
name: Hulk Smash
move 1: V-Create/Sacred Fire
move 2: Thousand Arrows
move 3: U-Turn
move 4: Trick/Blue Flare
item: Choice Scarf / Choice Band
ability: Tinted Lens/Desolate Land/ Adaptability
nature: Adamant/Lonely/Naughty
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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- V-Create is the most powerful move if the game and maximizes damage output at the cost of Defense, Special Defense, and Speed. However the OHKO potential is usually worth it.
- Thousand Arrows has neutral coverage on the whole tier, and is a more spammable option then V-Create.
- U-Turn gains momentum, and can slowly wear down counters.
- Trick cripples walls by locking them into a move.
- Blue Flare can 2hko Mega Slowbro sets.
- Sacred Fire inflicts burns that make it much more difficult for Groudon's counters to stay in.
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- The 252 Attack evs make Don hit as hard and possible, this is boosted by the nature. 252 Speed evs make Primal Don as fast as possible. the Speed evs are optional on the Band set, and can be replaced by HP evs.
- The Scarf set is capable of outspeeding Timid Mega Mewtwo Y.
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- V-Create is the main STAB option due to its ridiculous power without resists, capable of 2hkoing all walls without Fur Coat.
- Thousand Arrows already had zero resists, it is simply a more spammable option then V-Create.
- U-Turn is highly useful, momentum and scouting extremely important to winning in BH, and U-Turn does both.
- Scouting is key, don't take unnecessary risks with Groudon. If you think your opponent can beat you, switch out.
- Burns help Groudon wear down his checks and counters faster.
- Try to avoid using Tricking the Scarf off if offensive checks to Groudon still live.
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- Rayquaza, and Mega Gengar easily beat Groudon's counters.
- Giratina and Slowbro provide potential counters for imposter proofing, and Water resists.
name: (Contrary Groudon)
move 1: V-Create
move 2: Thousand Arrows/Earth Power/Overheat
move 3: Superpower
move 4: Draco Meteor/Overheat/Dragon Ascent/Imprison/King's Shield
item: Rocky Helmet/Safety Goggles
ability: Contrary
nature: Naive
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Speed
[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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- V-Create boosts the most stats, is the most powerful move in the game, and is STAB. There are Few reasons to not run it.
- Superpower is the next best option with contrary, boosting Attack and Defense.
- Thousand Arrows is still a reliable option even on contrary due to its lack of resists.
- The last move is highly customizable, and is dependent on user preference.
- Draco Meteor easily 2hkos Giratina without investment
- Imprison can be used to counter the Chansey switch in.
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- 252 Attack and 252 Speed are optimal to ensure Groudon's boost are as impactful as possible, to prevent revenge kills from potential scarf threats.
- It is perfectly viable to run an Naughty set, or only 148 Speed evs. 148 Speed evs enable you to outspeed Mega Mewtwo Y after 1 speed boost.
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- It is generally preferable to eliminate an imposter before sending out Contrary sets. An impostor that has copied a Contrary is almost impossible to defeat without an Unaware or Prankster counter.
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- An Unaware teammate is an excellent choice to keep impostor at bay.
- Prankster+Topsy Turvy is an excellent check to imposter as well.
[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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- Defensive Fur Coat sets see some usage, these Sets tend to be used to check other Groudons.
- Soundproof Sets can be used to counter Diancie-Mega and potentially check the other "ates."
- Special Attacker sets also exist, and are extremely anti meta, as most Primal Groudon checks are defensive
- Refrigerate and Pixilate are somewhat new and untested, though they are extremely powerful due to their ability to easily beat Giratina.
- Magic Guard and Poison Heal sets can enable Groudon to defeat Chansey 1v1.
- Levitate sets can provide niche imposter proofing.
Checks and Counters
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- Water type attacks: almost every competitive water type attack OHKOs due to Primal Groudon's 4x Weakness. Common users are Kyogre and Protean, less common users are Palkia, Swampert, and Diancie-Mega
- Strong Special Attackers: Strong special moves such as Boomburst can OHKO thanks to Primal Don's less then average Sp.Def. Common Users are -Ate, Kyogre, Mega Mewtwo Y, and Gengar. Less common users are Arceus, Deoxys-A, and Lati@s.
- Excessively Bulky Fire resists: Bulky Fire resists can make repeated switch ins on Groudon. Giratina and Slowbro-Mega are the most common. Be wary of Tinted Lens, or run Fur Coat to ensure you can reliably counter.
- Primordial Sea users: Cancels out Groudon's most powerful STAB, and turns niche pokemon like Mega Heracross into counters.
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