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Resource Battle Spot Singles Role Compendium

Discussion in 'Battle Spot' started by dogknees, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. dogknees

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    More changes!
    • Added Mega Blaziken to viable meas, Mega Skeptile to unvibale / gimmicky, Mega Swampert to niche
    • Mega Swampert added under rain
    • Mega Blaziken added to physical wallbreakers / mixed wallbreakers / SD sweepers
    Not 100% sure about adding mega Blaziken to baton pass / mixed wallbreakers, so feel free to let me know your thoughts!
  2. Jhon

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    Speed passing M-Blaziken is really good, not as a dedicated passer, but just as 3rd slot while packing HJK and Blitz.
    I wouldn't consider M-Blaziken a wallbreaker these days, defensive teams are usually carrying at least one of Toxapex or (M-)Slowbro. Even Hippo and the occasional Cress on balance teams are gonna be a pain for it on that front.
    M-Hera should certainly be considered a Wallbreaker and Setup Sweeper (SD), it's pretty fantastic as a TR abuser too.
    Something I think solerme brought up a while back, M-Aerodactyl being placed in niche, it very much is a real pick for certain stall teams. Handling M-Gengar, Charizard-X/Y and even NP Thundurus-T is pretty nice.
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  3. dogknees

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    Changes!
    • Mega-Heracross added to TR Abusers, Wallbreaker and Setup sweeper (SD)
    • Mega-Aerodactly moves to Niche megas
    Needs discussion;
    • Mega-Blaziken out of wallbreakers. Not sure what I think about this, since regular blaziken is there as well. While regular blaziken breaks much easier with the assistance of z moves or a life orb, i don't think the gap in wallbreaking capacity between blaziken and mega blaziken is too large. Imo, it's either both are there or both aren't there
  4. NOVED

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    I would say Mega Blaziken def classifies as a wallbreaker. SD and its stab combination is really hard to wall unless your name is Fini, Slowbro, or Toxapex. It does really well vs other common walls like P2 and Celesteela. If we're considering LO Blaz a wallbreaker, I think mega certainly fits the bill too.

    Also think putting Hera in set up sweepers is a bit off. SD is super uncommon and not anything people should try to play around in battle imo, unless it's revealed. Even if you do run SD its more for wallbreaking anyway cause hera is too slow to sweep teams, and you're usually not SDing under TR cause it wastes turns + you're probably killing everything already without an SD.
  5. Jhon

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    From my perspective regular Blaziken can wall break through either SD with burst damage (z-move) or by being mixed and generally hitting relevant targets on both sides. Mega can't do mixed well and the SD set does damage, but struggles if it's not dropping Protect for a 3rd attack.

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