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imo, if your P2 check/counter doesn't like Paralysis then it isn't 'the best'. Thunder Wave is used on 33%, Toxic 21%... I'm not singling out any one set that's been nominated so far, but you guys need to realise that this isn't the 1v1 metagame thread. You need to think how your nomination deals with the threat and it's teammates. Sweet, you've killed P2 off, but now you're too crippled from doing so that you may as well have been KO'd in the process.
I dunno, I could be misinterpreting the whole idea of this project, it just seems (to me) that there is a whole lot of tunnel vision when building these answers to victims, without much concern for the big picture.
For example, I've been racking my brain over what I want to nominate for this. I've come up a bunch of stuff that handle P2 1v1 but they lose to a whole lot of common stuff in the meta, or are so specialised at dealing with P2 that they aren't worth a teamslot. The only thing I've been really happy with is:
Lucario @ Lum Berry
Ability: Steadfast (or Inner Focus, Justified is useless on this set)
Modest Nature
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Aura Sphere
- Shadow Ball
- Nasty Plot
- Substitute / Agililty
Like Creeper said, Luke takes poultry damage from P2's attacks and can set up either on it, or as it switches out. Nasty Plot is to reach crazy levels of power, allowing a OHKO with Aura Sphere. Shadow Ball is the preferred coverage option, giving superb neutral coverage with the two moves alone. Flash Cannon would leave a big weakness to Aegislash which is a no-no, Dark Pulse would let fairies wall you. The toss up between Sub and Agility is up to personal preference. You can Sub safely on P2 since none of it's common moves can break it, however you may just prefer to Nasty Plot on it since the Lum Berry will cure the potential paralyses. Sub also stops annoying switch ins like Garchomp from coming in and just EQing you to death, but Agility can be used to get the jump on these faster threats (and who doesn't love a double dance set?)
I suck at dealing with defensive mons..
I dunno, I could be misinterpreting the whole idea of this project, it just seems (to me) that there is a whole lot of tunnel vision when building these answers to victims, without much concern for the big picture.
For example, I've been racking my brain over what I want to nominate for this. I've come up a bunch of stuff that handle P2 1v1 but they lose to a whole lot of common stuff in the meta, or are so specialised at dealing with P2 that they aren't worth a teamslot. The only thing I've been really happy with is:
Lucario @ Lum Berry
Ability: Steadfast (or Inner Focus, Justified is useless on this set)
Modest Nature
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Aura Sphere
- Shadow Ball
- Nasty Plot
- Substitute / Agililty
Like Creeper said, Luke takes poultry damage from P2's attacks and can set up either on it, or as it switches out. Nasty Plot is to reach crazy levels of power, allowing a OHKO with Aura Sphere. Shadow Ball is the preferred coverage option, giving superb neutral coverage with the two moves alone. Flash Cannon would leave a big weakness to Aegislash which is a no-no, Dark Pulse would let fairies wall you. The toss up between Sub and Agility is up to personal preference. You can Sub safely on P2 since none of it's common moves can break it, however you may just prefer to Nasty Plot on it since the Lum Berry will cure the potential paralyses. Sub also stops annoying switch ins like Garchomp from coming in and just EQing you to death, but Agility can be used to get the jump on these faster threats (and who doesn't love a double dance set?)
- +2 252+ SpA Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 192-228 (100 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
- 0 SpA Porygon2 Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Lucario: 24-28 (16.4 - 19.1%) -- possible 6HKO
- 0 SpA Porygon2 Tri Attack vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Lucario: 31-37 (21.2 - 25.3%) -- 0.2% chance to 4HKO
- 0 SpA Porygon2 Discharge vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Lucario: 42-50 (28.7 - 34.2%) -- 3.1% chance to 3HKO
I suck at dealing with defensive mons..