Ugh. I've designed like 5 or 6 teams now to try in here and haven't gotten around to actually playing with any of them yet. I need to get the drive back somehow I guess. Before I stopped playing I was using a sort of odd team to surprising success: Cloyster (M) @ Focus Sash Trait: Skill Link EVs: 56 Atk / 252 SAtk / 64 SDef / 136 Spd Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def) - Shell Smash - Blizzard - Surf - Rock Blast Abomasnow (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Snow Warning EVs: 252 HP / 72 Atk / 92 Def / 92 SDef Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Leech Seed - Ice Shard - Protect - Wood Hammer Manectric (M) @ Air Balloon Trait: Lightningrod EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Flamethrower - Thunderbolt - Protect - Rain Dance Kingdra (M) @ Life Orb Trait: Swift Swim EVs: 176 Atk / 80 SAtk / 252 Spd Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def) - Blizzard - Waterfall - Outrage - Protect Using rain and hail together seems like a bit of a pain, but it actually works out alright. The downfall of this team is that it's really easy to make a misplay and the team falls apart drastically after that. Manectric is severely underrated though. Subway AI doesn't understand that they can't T-Bolt Cloyster with Lightning Rod Manectric sitting right there getting SpA boosts. It makes me really excited for when and if LR Zapdos is released. Zapdos-Gyarados is gonna be sick.