Ah yeah that wold be my team :D although that one went particularly well, i still have a difficult time facing things like Bisharp, and U turners, as well as of course, hax :/ Shell Smash seems like a good idea. Ill try that out too. Ive tried a a variety of things so far, TrickScarf latias so far being my favorite lead. thats probably been my biggest problem so far, either finding the best lead crippler, or being able to use it correctly, but ill learn. Moody over Own tempo, after a fair amount of battles i figured its more beneficial to stat boost faster, even if it is random stats, and to be able to boost stats like evasion accuracy and defense. Ive found that even if my accuracy is lowered i could just keep quiver dancing until i land a +2 accuracy. As of now ive enjoyed this smeargle set the most: Smeargle @Focus SashMoody - Timid252 Hp - 252 Speed - 4 defense31-0-31-7-31-31Ingrain - Substitute - Quiver Dance - Baton Pass Gothitelle sounds like a good idea. I might try that out.