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Brutality (My New OU Team)

Discussion in 'BW OU Teams' started by Breakdown, Jul 18, 2012.

  1. Breakdown


    Jul 16, 2012
    Hello there! This is my first thread on this site, however i am quite familiar with Smogon. It's been a couple months since i was playing regularly and i'm a bit rusty so i wanted to post my new team for some advice. So here it is:
    Team At A Glance

    In Detail

    Villian (Sableye) (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Prankster
    EVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Recover
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Taunt
    - Night Shade

    I love using Sableye, it is just such a troll. Not only does it work as a spin-blocker, it can stop my opponents hazard setters and set up sweepers with a priority Taunt. It can cripple anything that relies on attack power with Will-o-Wisp and is sometimes able to stall the opponent out with Recover. Night Shade is just there to allow Sableye to deal decent damage if it has a chance to get a move in. Standard Sableye set, but i find it so useful.

    Ganesha (Donphan) (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Rapid Spin
    - Stealth Rock
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Shard

    Donphan is a great pokemon. It takes hits really well, and seems to never fail at getting a Rapid Spin in when i really need it. Stealth Rock is there because i hate playing without at least rocks out. Adamant nature brings Donphans attack to 304 with minimal EV investment so that it still hits hard with Earthquake. Ice Shard is also great for hitting dragon types or for getting one last move in when Donphan is on it's last leg. Sturdy is nice for a free Focus Sash and Leftover is just to increase it's staying power.

    Bullet (Latios) (M) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Draco Meteor
    - Surf
    - Psyshock
    - Hidden Power [Fire]

    Latios is a new member of the team, to replace Tentacruel. It makes an amazing revenge killer and sometimes a late-game sweeper. Draco Meteor is his main STAB move, able to KO almost everything that doesn't resist it. Surf deals with Heatran and Infernape. Psyshock can take out even a Calm Mind boosted Keldeo. I run HP Fire instead of Trick because i would rather have the extra coverage to deal with Scizor, Ferrothorn and other threats that don't like fire. The Scarf boosts Latios' speed and makes it able to outrun most things it goes up against.

    Taser (Magnezone) @ Air Balloon
    Trait: Magnet Pull
    EVs: 36 HP / 252 SAtk / 220 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Substitute
    - Thunderbolt
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Flash Cannon

    Magnezone is a partner for Salamence and my special sweeper. His main use is trapping steel types with Magnet Pull and shooting them down with Hidden Power Fire. I put a sub up against anything Magnezone resists to increase it's staying power. Thunderbolt and Flash Cannon are there for coverage and for their solid power. Air Balloon helps to cover it's brutal ground weakness.

    Vampire (Gliscor) (M) @ Toxic Orb
    Trait: Poison Heal
    EVs: 244 HP / 44 Def / 220 Spd
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Toxic
    - Earthquake
    - Substitute
    - Protect

    Gliscor is probably my favorite pokemon and i always try to fit him into a team. He works well as a physical wall and has good synergy with Sableye as he can continue to stall anything that they have crippled. I'm running a very standard set on him but i have been thinking of working Roost into his set. I'm not sure where though.

    Reptar (Salamence) (M) @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Moxie
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Outrage
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Blast

    Finally, Salamence. I have done my best to work my team around this beast, because once he's set up for success, he rarely fails. I'm happy he got Outrage from B&W2. I used to run a Life Orb and Dragon Claw but i'm using a Lum Berry intead to get him an extra 2-3 turns to 'Rage without confusion. I set up with Dragon Dance whenever i have the chance to up the damage and Moxie continues to amp him up with every opponent he takes down. Earthquake and Fire Blast help clean up anything that he can't take out with Outrage. I've considered going back to Life Orb and Dragon Claw to avoid getting locked into Outrage in unfavorable situations but i'm not sure if the power drop is worth it.

    I would like to thank Novaray for all of his suggestions, they really helped me take my team up a notch. My biggest issue now is the huge ice weakness my team suffers. I have thought about switching out Donphan for Forretress or something else that can Spin and set Stealth Rocks, so i'm open to more ideas that anyone might have.
  2. Nova

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    Nov 13, 2011
    Hi Breakdown

    Welcome back to competitive Pokemon and pretty cool team you have here. Looking at your team, I can see Keldeo posing a major threat. If your opponent has Stealth Rock up, the pony can run through your team as Tentacruel can't do much back and Salamence can't take rain boosted or +1 Hydro Pumps. Another fault that I see with your team is that it is quite slow, opening up some weakness to the many fast threats in BW2 such as Tornadus-T and Thundurus-T. For these reasons I suggest using a Choice Scarf Latios with a moveset of Draco Meteor / Surf / Psyshock / Trick over Tentacruel. Scarf Latios gives your team a tremendous amount of speed, outspeeding the entire unboosted OU metagame as well as common scarfers such as Salamence, Thundurus-T, and Landorus. Psyshock i a great move to beat Breloom as well as Keldeo even if the pony has Calm Mind boosts under her belt as damage i calculated using the opponent's defense stat despite being a special attack. Trick is useful when facing a stall team by crippling one of your opponent's walls.

    Now for some smaller changes. First I recommend changing Gliscor's EV spread to 244 HP /40 Def / 220 Spd with an Impish nature. This spread gives you enough speed to outspeed Adamant Lucario, allowing you to dispatch of the threat before he hits you with a potential Ice Punch. If you make the switch from Tentacruel to Latios, then I would suggest Toxic over Ice Fang on Gliscor. With Toxic and the faster EV spread, Gliscor can beat the on-site Bulky Attacker Rotom-W if you get up a Substitute or Toxic on the switch. Lastly a Naive nature instead of Naughty is better on Salamence as it allows you to speed tie with other positive natured base 100s and the decrease in power is largely negligible after a Dragon Dance and Moxie boost.

    Hope I helped and good luck with your team!

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    Latios @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    -Draco Meteor

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    Tentacruel ----> Choice Scarf Latios
    Gliscor's EV spread ----> 244 HP / 40 Def / 220 Spd with Impish nature
    Ice Fang on Gliscor ----> Toxic
    Naughty nature Salamence ----> Naive nature
  3. Breakdown


    Jul 16, 2012
    Thank you very much for all the advice! What you've said makes sense, and i have noticed my team is on the slow side. I'm certainly going to test out your suggestions and see how they work out for me.

    EDIT: I have changed my team with all of your suggestions and it has been working amazingly. I have won six out of the seven games i've played since changing my team. However my loss was to a hail team, and that made me notice how weak my team is to ice. Blizzard just ripped through me. So now i just need to work on covering that.

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