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Cinccino (QC 3/3) (GP 2/2)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by LucaroarkZ, Aug 14, 2012.

  1. LucaroarkZ

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    [Overview]

    <p>At first glance, Cinccino does not look very threatening. Speed is its only decent stat, and it also suffers from a poor movepool with no viable way of hitting Steel-type Pokemon. However, Skill Link turns Cinccino from a mediocre Pokemon to a threat that all UU teams should be prepared for. Skill Link allows Cinccino to effectively utilize its multi-hit moves, as they will always hit 5 times, with the added benefit of breaking Substitutes and continuing to attack. So, what is this cute little thing doing in NU? The answer to this is simple. First, it is walled by common Steel-type Pokemon such as Bronzong and Cobalion, as well as being easily revenge killed by Choice Scarf users due to its poor defenses. Regardless of its flaws, however, Cinccino can give headaches to teams that lack Steel-types.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Tail Slap
    move 2: Rock Blast
    move 3: Bullet Seed
    move 4: U-turn
    item: Life Orb / Choice Band
    ability: Skill Link
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set takes full advantage of everything Cinccino can use competitively. Factoring in STAB, Tail Slap hits 187 Base Power, meaning anything that doesn't resist it will be hit hard. Alongside Tail Slap, Cinccino has two more multi-hit moves to take advantage of. Rock Blast is its best option against the likes of Chandelure and Zapdos, potentially hitting them through Substitute, while Bullet Seed lets it handle Rhyperior and is its strongest option against bulky Water-types. In the early game, U-turn is a great move to have, scouting for the opponent's switch-ins and reacting accordingly.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Cinccino should always run maximum Attack and maximum Speed, as it is too frail for investment in bulk to make a difference. Life Orb is the preferred item to use as this allows Cinccino to switch moves, but Choice Band gives it a little more power and doesn't have Life Orb's recoil. Additionally, Life Orb recoil and Stealth Rock damage could lead to Cinccino being weakened more quickly than usual, which a Choice Band avoids. As Cinccino has trouble beating Steel-types, its best teammates are those who can handle Steel-types. Chandelure can beat any Steel-type bar Empoleon and Cobalion, as well as bulky Ghost-types such as Cofagrigus, while Choice Scarf Mienshao or Heracross handles Empoleon and Cobalion. Magneton is another excellent teammate as it can trap Steel-types thanks to its Magnet Pull ability.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Unfortunately, Cinccino doesn't have any other options that are worth using. Although Return is much more accurate than Tail Slap, it is noticeably weaker and Cinccino needs all the power it can get. Cinccino learns Aqua Tail, but it has better options to hit anything Aqua Tail covers. Work Up can be used to boost its mediocre Attack stat, but Cinccino doesn't have the resistances or bulk to set up. Wake-Up Slap is its best option against Steel-types, but 60 Base Power simply doesn't cut it. Although Technician may look appealing to boost Wake-Up Slap, Skill Link is what makes Cinccino worth using at all, so it should just stick to abusing Skill Link.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Steel-types give Cinccino a run for its money. Bronzong has massive physical bulk and resists all of Cinccino's attacks bar U-turn, and Gyro Ball will do massive damage to Cinccino. Cobalion can easily tank any hit and OHKO Cinccino with Close Combat, while Registeel takes hits from Cinccino all day and cripples it with Thunder Wave. Although Bisharp is not as bulky as the other Steel-types mentioned, it can hit Cinccino hard with Sucker Punch. In addition, bulky Ghost-types will trouble Cinccino thanks to their immunity to Tail Slap. Cofagrigus and Dusclops easily take any hit from Cinccino, while they can use Will-O-Wisp to weaken it. Thanks to its Prankster ability, Sableye can burn Cinccino before it even gets the chance to attack. Hitmontop can also take it on thanks to Intimidate and STAB Close Combat. Aside from beating it with defensive Pokemon, it's also easy to revenge kill thanks to its virtually nonexistent bulk. Choice Scarf Heracross and Mienshao immediately come to mind, but even the weak Choice Scarf Flygon can revenge kill it.</p>
  2. DestinyUnknown

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    Give Choice Scarf a try actually, I know it seems piss weak (and bad) but I thought the same before trying it in NU and when I did I got surprised because it was decent. Haven't used it in UU so i don't know if it's analysis-worthy (I will try it and give some input later) but yeah just posting to say you should try it before (in the case you haven't)
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    Just posting to say that you want to move the 4 HP EVs into SpDef, so you give an Atk boost to Download users. I'll give my thoughts on the Scarf set after I try it.
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    >getting QC stamps on incomplete skeletons
    >2012

    I'm going to finish this skeleton up. Like, now.
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    I stamped it because it's a Cincinno - it's going do one thing. You have the moveset right. Consider it a vote of confidence that you won't fuck up the skeleton.
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    Technician + Wake Up Slap in OO.
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    I think Aqua Tail, Work Up, etc have to be in OO. Sub 3 attacks needs a bigger mention, an Return IS viable on Cinccino. It's the same as Flamethrower vs. Fire Blast, keep in mind that Cinccino really, really hates missing, so the way you discarded Return in OO seems like it'd never be worth using... Expansive special movepool (I know he shouldnt ever use them, just mention it so people aren't tempted). I think it gets Knock Off too?
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    I was thinking of Aqua Tail, and I don't think there are really any relevant targets Aqua Tail hits that another one of your moves can't, so it's not going in OO unless I am specifically told by QC to do so. Work Up is a pretty bad boosting move and it's pretty hard for Cinccino to set up, so if I do put it in OO I'll be mentioning that.

    Return is not only weaker than Tail Slap, it also doesn't continue attacking after a Substitute is broken. I believe anyone will be discouraged from using Special moves on Cinccino after seeing its base 65 SpA, so that should be so obvious it probably doesn't need to be mentioned. Cinccino does indeed get Knock Off, but Cinccino doesn't really have the stats to use Knock Off. (not that Knock Off is that good of a move anyway)
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    Mention Aqua Tail, Work Up and Return in OO, especially considering you mentioned Technician (Return is arguably better when not using Skill Link). Yeah, I know Skill Link is the only good Cinccino option, but "Other Options" is meant toinclude the "competitive" moves / options that can be somewhat usable, even if they are plain worse than the sets listed or just bad. Obviously mention than Cinccino should just be abusing Skill Link in OO (you already have it on the skeleton so yeah)
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    Okay, got all of that in.
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    Alright, finally wrote this up (after taking forever lol, i blame ap calc)

    Time for GP checks!
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    [Overview]

    <p>At first glance, Cinccino does not look very threatening. None of its stats are good except for Speed, while it also has a poor movepool with no viable ways of hitting Steel-type Pokemon. Plus, it's just too cute! How could something so cute be good? However, Skill Link turns Cinccino from a mediocre Pokemon to a threat that all UU teams should be prepared for. Skill Link allows it to effectively abuse its multi-hit moves, as they will hit 5 times every attack, with the added benefit of breaking Substitutes and continuing to attack. So, what is this cute little thing doing in NU? The answer to this is simple. First, it is walled by common Steel-type Pokemon such as Bronzong and Cobalion, while it is also easily revenge killed by Choice Scarf users due to its poor defenses. Regardless of its flaws, however, Cinccino can gives headaches to teams that lack Steel-types.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Tail Slap
    move 2: Rock Blast
    move 3: Bullet Seed
    move 4: U-turn
    item: Life Orb / Choice Band
    ability: Skill Link
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set takes full advantage of everything Cinccino can use competitively. Factoring in STAB, Tail Slap hits 187 Base Power, meaning anything that doesn't resist it will be hit hard by it. Alongside Tail Slap, Cinccino has two more multi-hit moves to take advantage of. Rock Blast is its best option against the likes of Chandelure and Zapdos, especially if they have Substitute, and Bullet Seed lets it handle Rhyperior and is its strongest option against bulky waters. In the early game, U-turn is a great move to have, scouting for the opponent's switch-ins and reacting accordingly.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Cinccino should always run maximum Attack and maximum Speed, as it is too frail for investment in bulk to make a difference. Life Orb is the preferred item to use as this allows Cinccino to switch moves, but Choice Band gives it a little more power and doesn't have recoil. Additionally, Life Orb recoil and Stealth Rock damage could lead to Cinccino being weakened more quickly than usual, another good reason to use Choice Band. As Cinccino has trouble beating Steel-types, its best teammates are those which can handle Steel-types. Chandelure can beat any Steel-type except Empoleon and Cobalion, as well as bulky Ghost-types such as Cofagrigus, while Choice Scarf Mienshao or Heracross handle Empoleon and Cobalion. Magneton is another excellent teammate as it can trap Steel-types thanks to its Magnet Pull ability.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Unfortunately, Cinccino doesn't have any other options that are worth using. Although Return is much more accurate than Tail Slap, it is noticeably weaker and Cinccino needs all the power it can get. Cinccino learns Aqua Tail, but it has better options to hit anything Aqua Tail covers. Work Up can be used to boost Ciccino's mediocre Attack stat, but Cinccino doesn't have the resistances or bulk to set up. Wake-Up Slap is its best option against Steel-types, but 60 Base Power simply doesn't cut it. Although Technician might look appealing to boost Wake-Up Slap, Skill Link is what makes Cinccino worth using at all, so it should just stick to abusing multi-hit moves.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Steel-types give Cinccino a run for its money. Bronzong has massive physical bulk and resists all of Cinccino's attacks bar U-turn, while Gyro Ball will do massive damage to Cinccino. Cobalion can easily tank any hit and OHKO Cinccino with Close Combat, and Registeel takes hits from Cinccino all day and cripples it with Thunder Wave. Although Bisharp is not as bulky as the other Steel-types mentioned, it can hit Cinccino hard with Sucker Punch. In addition, bulky Ghost-types will trouble Cinccino thanks to their immunity to Tail Slap. Cofagrigus and Dusclops easily take any hit from Cinccino, while they can use Will-O-Wisp to weaken Cinccino. Thanks to its Prankster ability, Sableye can burn Cinccino before it even gets the chance to attack. Hitmontop can also take it on thanks to Intimidate and STAB Close Combat. Aside from beating it with defensive Pokemon, it's also easy to revenge kill thanks to its virtually nonexistent bulk. Choice Scarf Heracross and Mienshao immediately come to mind, but even the weak Choice Scarf Flygon can revenge kill it.</p>
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    [Overview]

    <p>At first glance, Cinccino does not look very threatening. None of its stats are very good except for Speed, while it also has a poor movepool with no viable ways of hitting Steel-type Pokemon. Plus, it's just too cute! How could something so cute be good? However, Skill Link turns Cinccino from a mediocre Pokemon to a threat that all UU teams should be prepared for. Skill Link allows it Cinccino to effectively abuse its multi-hit moves, as they will hit 5 times every time, with the added benefit of breaking Substitutes and continuing to attack. So, what is this cute little thing doing in NU? The answer to this is simple. First, it is walled by common Steel-type Pokemon such as Bronzong and Cobalion, while it is also easily revenge killed by Choice Scarf users due to its poor defenses. Regardless of its flaws, however, Cinccino can gives headaches to teams that lack Steel-types.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Tail Slap
    move 2: Rock Blast
    move 3: Bullet Seed
    move 4: U-turn
    item: Life Orb / Choice Band
    ability: Skill Link
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set takes full advantage of everything Cinccino can use competitively. Factoring in STAB, Tail Slap hits 187 Base Power, meaning anything that doesn't resist it will be hit hard by it. Alongside Tail Slap, Cinccino has two more multi-hit moves to take advantage of. Rock Blast is its best option against the likes of Chandelure and Zapdos, especially if they have Substitute, and Bullet Seed lets it handle Rhyperior and is its strongest option against bulky waters Water-types. In the early game, U-turn is a great move to have, scouting for the opponent's switch-ins and reacting accordingly.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Cinccino should always run maximum Attack and maximum Speed, as it is too frail for investment in bulk to make a difference. Life Orb is the preferred item to use as this allows Cinccino to switch moves, but Choice Band gives it a little more power and doesn't have recoil. Additionally, Life Orb recoil and Stealth Rock damage could lead to Cinccino being weakened more quickly than usual, another good reason to use Choice Band. As Cinccino has trouble beating Steel-types, its best teammates are those who can handle Steel-types. Chandelure can beat any Steel-type except Empoleon and Cobalion, as well as bulky Ghost-types such as Cofagrigus, while Choice Scarf Mienshao or Heracross handle Empoleon and Cobalion. Magneton is another excellent teammate as it can trap Steel-types thanks to its Magnet Pull ability.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Unfortunately, Cinccino doesn't have any other options that are worth using. Although Return is much more accurate than Tail Slap, it is noticeably weaker and Cinccino needs all the power it can get. Cinccino learns Aqua Tail, but it has better options to hit anything Aqua Tail covers. Work Up can be used to boost its mediocre Attack stat, but Cinccino doesn't have the resistances or bulk to set up. Wake-Up Slap is its best option against Steel-types, but 60 Base Power simply doesn't cut it. Although Technician may look appealing to boost Wake-Up Slap, Skill Link is what makes Cinccino worth using at all, so it should just stick to abusing Skill Link.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Steel-types give Cinccino a run for its money. Bronzong has massive physical bulk and resists all of Cinccino's attacks bar U-turn, while Gyro Ball will do massive damage to Cinccino. Cobalion can easily tank any hit and OHKO Cinccino with Close Combat, and while Registeel takes hits from Cinccino all day and cripples it with Thunder Wave. Although Bisharp is not as bulky as the other Steel-types mentioned, it can hit Cinccino hard with Sucker Punch. In addition, bulky Ghost-types will trouble Cinccino thanks to their immunity to Tail Slap. Cofagrigus and Dusclops easily take any hit from Cinccino, while they can use Will-O-Wisp to weaken Cinccino it. Thanks to its Prankster ability, Sableye can burn Cinccino before it even gets the chance to attack. Hitmontop can also take it on thanks to Intimidate and STAB Close Combat. Aside from beating it with defensive Pokemon, it's also easy to revenge kill thanks to its virtually nonexistent bulk. Choice Scarf Heracross and Mienshao immediately come to mind, but even the weak Choice Scarf Flygon can revenge kill it.</p>


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    Awesome, thanks for the check SuperJOCKE!
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    [Overview]

    <p>At first glance, Cinccino does not look very threatening. None of its stats are very good except for Speed, while it also has a poor movepool with no viable ways of hitting Steel-type Pokemon. However, Skill Link turns Cinccino from a mediocre Pokemon to a threat that all UU teams should be prepared for. Skill Link allows Cinccino to effectively abuse its multi-hit moves, as they will hit 5 times every time, with the added benefit of breaking Substitutes and continuing to attack. So, what is this cute little thing doing in NU? The answer to this is simple. First, it is walled by common Steel-type Pokemon such as Bronzong and Cobalion, as well as being easily revenge killed by Choice Scarf users due to its poor defenses. Regardless of its flaws, however, Cinccino can give headaches to teams that lack Steel-types.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Tail Slap
    move 2: Rock Blast
    move 3: Bullet Seed
    move 4: U-turn
    item: Life Orb / Choice Band
    ability: Skill Link
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set takes full advantage of everything Cinccino can use competitively. Factoring in STAB, Tail Slap hits 187 Base Power, meaning anything that doesn't resist it will be hit hard by it. Alongside Tail Slap, Cinccino has two more multi-hit moves to take advantage of. Rock Blast is its best option against the likes of Chandelure and Zapdos, especially if they have Substitute (I wouldn't say especially if they have a sub up, maybe "even breaking through Substitute"), and Bullet Seed lets it handle Rhyperior and is its strongest option against bulky Water-types. In the early game, U-turn is a great move to have, scouting for the opponent's switch-ins and reacting accordingly.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Cinccino should always run maximum Attack and maximum Speed, as it is too frail for investment in bulk to make a difference. Life Orb is the preferred item to use as this allows Cinccino to switch moves, but Choice Band gives it a little more power and doesn't have recoil. Additionally, Life Orb recoil and Stealth Rock damage could lead to Cinccino being weakened more quickly than usual, another good reason to use Choice Band. As Cinccino has trouble beating Steel-types, its best teammates are those who can handle Steel-types. Chandelure can beat any Steel-type except Empoleon and Cobalion, as well as bulky Ghost-types such as Cofagrigus, while Choice Scarf Mienshao or Heracross handles Empoleon and Cobalion. Magneton is another excellent teammate as it can trap Steel-types thanks to its Magnet Pull ability.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Unfortunately, Cinccino doesn't have any other options that are worth using. Although Return is much more accurate than Tail Slap, it is noticeably weaker and Cinccino needs all the power it can get. Cinccino learns Aqua Tail, but it has better options to hit anything Aqua Tail covers. Work Up can be used to boost its mediocre Attack stat, but Cinccino doesn't have the resistances or bulk to set up. Wake-Up Slap is its best option against Steel-types, but 60 Base Power simply doesn't cut it. Although Technician may look appealing to boost Wake-Up Slap, Skill Link is what makes Cinccino worth using at all, so it should just stick to abusing Skill Link.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Steel-types give Cinccino a run for its money. Bronzong has massive physical bulk and resists all of Cinccino's attacks bar U-turn, and Gyro Ball will do massive damage to Cinccino. Cobalion can easily tank any hit and OHKO Cinccino with Close Combat, while Registeel takes hits from Cinccino all day and cripples it with Thunder Wave. Although Bisharp is not as bulky as the other Steel-types mentioned, it can hit Cinccino hard with Sucker Punch. In addition, bulky Ghost-types will trouble Cinccino thanks to their immunity to Tail Slap. Cofagrigus and Dusclops easily take any hit from Cinccino, while they can use Will-O-Wisp to weaken it. Thanks to its Prankster ability, Sableye can burn Cinccino before it even gets the chance to attack; the burn providing residual damage on top of Life Orb recoil and entry hazard damage, as well as lowering Attack. Hitmontop can also take it on thanks to Intimidate and STAB Close Combat. Aside from beating it with defensive Pokemon, it's also easy to revenge kill thanks to its virtually nonexistent bulk. Choice Scarf Heracross and Mienshao immediately come to mind, but even the weak Choice Scarf Flygon can revenge kill it.</p>


    The last addition wasn't really necessary, but the residual damage really does wear it down, taking 22.5% damage each turn is a big deal.
  19. LucaroarkZ

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    Thanks Mikel! I don't think the last addition was really necessary, but the comment on Substitute makes sense - I changed it to "potentially hitting them through Substitute". The other changes are good, so I made them.
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    [Overview]

    <p>At first glance, Cinccino does not look very threatening. None ofSpeed its stats are very good except for Speed, while it also hasits only decent stat, and it also suffers from a poor movepool with no viable ways of hitting Steel-type Pokemon. However, Skill Link turns Cinccino from a mediocre Pokemon to a threat that all UU teams should be prepared for. Skill Link allows Cinccino to effectively abusutilize its multi-hit moves, as they will always hit 5 times every time, with the added benefit of breaking Substitutes and continuing to attack. So, what is this cute little thing doing in NU? The answer to this is simple. First, it is walled by common Steel-type Pokemon such as Bronzong and Cobalion, as well as being easily revenge killed by Choice Scarf users due to its poor defenses. Regardless of its flaws, however, Cinccino can give headaches to teams that lack Steel-types.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Tail Slap
    move 2: Rock Blast
    move 3: Bullet Seed
    move 4: U-turn
    item: Life Orb / Choice Band
    ability: Skill Link
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set takes full advantage of everything Cinccino can use competitively. Factoring in STAB, Tail Slap hits 187 Base Power, meaning anything that doesn't resist it will be hit hard. Alongside Tail Slap, Cinccino has two more multi-hit moves to take advantage of. Rock Blast is its best option against the likes of Chandelure and Zapdos, potentially hitting them through Substitute, while Bullet Seed lets it handle Rhyperior and is its strongest option against bulky Water-types. In the early game, U-turn is a great move to have, scouting for the opponent's switch-ins and reacting accordingly.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Cinccino should always run maximum Attack and maximum Speed, as it is too frail for investment in bulk to make a difference. Life Orb is the preferred item to use as this allows Cinccino to switch moves, but Choice Band gives it a little more power and doesn't have Life Orb's recoil. Additionally, Life Orb recoil and Stealth Rock damage could lead to Cinccino being weakened more quickly than usual, another good reason to usewhich a Choice Band avoids. As Cinccino has trouble beating Steel-types, its best teammates are those who can handle Steel-types. Chandelure can beat any Steel-type exceptbar Empoleon and Cobalion, as well as bulky Ghost-types such as Cofagrigus, while Choice Scarf Mienshao or Heracross handles Empoleon and Cobalion. Magneton is another excellent teammate as it can trap Steel-types thanks to its Magnet Pull ability.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Unfortunately, Cinccino doesn't have any other options that are worth using. Although Return is much more accurate than Tail Slap, it is noticeably weaker and Cinccino needs all the power it can get. Cinccino learns Aqua Tail, but it has better options to hit anything Aqua Tail covers. Work Up can be used to boost its mediocre Attack stat, but Cinccino doesn't have the resistances or bulk to set up. Wake-Up Slap is its best option against Steel-types, but 60 Base Power simply doesn't cut it. Although Technician may look appealing to boost Wake-Up Slap, Skill Link is what makes Cinccino worth using at all, so it should just stick to abusing Skill Link.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Steel-types give Cinccino a run for its money. Bronzong has massive physical bulk and resists all of Cinccino's attacks bar U-turn, and Gyro Ball will do massive damage to Cinccino. Cobalion can easily tank any hit and OHKO Cinccino with Close Combat, while Registeel takes hits from Cinccino all day and cripples it with Thunder Wave. Although Bisharp is not as bulky as the other Steel-types mentioned, it can hit Cinccino hard with Sucker Punch. In addition, bulky Ghost-types will trouble Cinccino thanks to their immunity to Tail Slap. Cofagrigus and Dusclops easily take any hit from Cinccino, while they can use Will-O-Wisp to weaken it. Thanks to its Prankster ability, Sableye can burn Cinccino before it even gets the chance to attack. Hitmontop can also take it on thanks to Intimidate and STAB Close Combat. Aside from beating it with defensive Pokemon, it's also easy to revenge kill thanks to its virtually nonexistent bulk. Choice Scarf Heracross and Mienshao immediately come to mind, but even the weak Choice Scarf Flygon can revenge kill it.</p>

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    [Overview]

    <p>At first glance, Cinccino does not look very threatening. Speed is its only decent stat, and it also suffers from a poor movepool with no viable way of hitting Steel-type Pokemon. However, Skill Link turns Cinccino from a mediocre Pokemon to a threat that all UU teams should be prepared for. Skill Link allows Cinccino to effectively utilize its multi-hit moves, as they will always hit 5 times, with the added benefit of breaking Substitutes and continuing to attack. So, what is this cute little thing doing in NU? The answer to this is simple. First, it is walled by common Steel-type Pokemon such as Bronzong and Cobalion, as well as being easily revenge killed by Choice Scarf users due to its poor defenses. Regardless of its flaws, however, Cinccino can give headaches to teams that lack Steel-types.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Tail Slap
    move 2: Rock Blast
    move 3: Bullet Seed
    move 4: U-turn
    item: Life Orb / Choice Band
    ability: Skill Link
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set takes full advantage of everything Cinccino can use competitively. Factoring in STAB, Tail Slap hits 187 Base Power, meaning anything that doesn't resist it will be hit hard. Alongside Tail Slap, Cinccino has two more multi-hit moves to take advantage of. Rock Blast is its best option against the likes of Chandelure and Zapdos, potentially hitting them through Substitute, while Bullet Seed lets it handle Rhyperior and is its strongest option against bulky Water-types. In the early game, U-turn is a great move to have, scouting for the opponent's switch-ins and reacting accordingly.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Cinccino should always run maximum Attack and maximum Speed, as it is too frail for investment in bulk to make a difference. Life Orb is the preferred item to use as this allows Cinccino to switch moves, but Choice Band gives it a little more power and doesn't have Life Orb's recoil. Additionally, Life Orb recoil and Stealth Rock damage could lead to Cinccino being weakened more quickly than usual, which a Choice Band avoids. As Cinccino has trouble beating Steel-types, its best teammates are those who can handle Steel-types. Chandelure can beat any Steel-type bar Empoleon and Cobalion, as well as bulky Ghost-types such as Cofagrigus, while Choice Scarf Mienshao or Heracross handles Empoleon and Cobalion. Magneton is another excellent teammate as it can trap Steel-types thanks to its Magnet Pull ability.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Unfortunately, Cinccino doesn't have any other options that are worth using. Although Return is much more accurate than Tail Slap, it is noticeably weaker and Cinccino needs all the power it can get. Cinccino learns Aqua Tail, but it has better options to hit anything Aqua Tail covers. Work Up can be used to boost its mediocre Attack stat, but Cinccino doesn't have the resistances or bulk to set up. Wake-Up Slap is its best option against Steel-types, but 60 Base Power simply doesn't cut it. Although Technician may look appealing to boost Wake-Up Slap, Skill Link is what makes Cinccino worth using at all, so it should just stick to abusing Skill Link.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Steel-types give Cinccino a run for its money. Bronzong has massive physical bulk and resists all of Cinccino's attacks bar U-turn, and Gyro Ball will do massive damage to Cinccino. Cobalion can easily tank any hit and OHKO Cinccino with Close Combat, while Registeel takes hits from Cinccino all day and cripples it with Thunder Wave. Although Bisharp is not as bulky as the other Steel-types mentioned, it can hit Cinccino hard with Sucker Punch. In addition, bulky Ghost-types will trouble Cinccino thanks to their immunity to Tail Slap. Cofagrigus and Dusclops easily take any hit from Cinccino, while they can use Will-O-Wisp to weaken it. Thanks to its Prankster ability, Sableye can burn Cinccino before it even gets the chance to attack. Hitmontop can also take it on thanks to Intimidate and STAB Close Combat. Aside from beating it with defensive Pokemon, it's also easy to revenge kill thanks to its virtually nonexistent bulk. Choice Scarf Heracross and Mienshao immediately come to mind, but even the weak Choice Scarf Flygon can revenge kill it.</p>

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