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While I doubt this would be, you know, recommended or even considered, outside links to more in depth LCF guides and basic summaries here could work. We'd need to talk to a higher up first though, of course.

If we're going to have Gible (lol), we might as well have Squirtle and Buizel in the threat list (which BTW i don't think needs to be separated into Offense / Defensez)
 
Just so you know after further testing I found that my original formula was wrong and fixed it in the guide.
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While I doubt this would be, you know, recommended or even considered, outside links to more in depth LCF guides and basic summaries here could work. We'd need to talk to a higher up first though, of course.

If we're going to have Gible (lol), we might as well have Squirtle and Buizel in the threat list (which BTW i don't think needs to be separated into Offense / Defensez)
Gible isn't so lol when its fucking stuff up with CB outrage and it's a decent scarfer which should be its niche. Buizel definitely will get in once I have a chance to fix this stuff up, Squirtle is more of a mish mash of an offensive/defensive pokemon and offensively bar fake out is outclassed by buizel so perhaps I wont mention it.

There is no defensive threat list, "the walls" should suffice.

If you are still willing to do some set commentary, you can post it in this thread.
 
Squirtle isn't really all that great.

Also, no Turtwig on the Leads list? I see a ton more Turtwig than Drifloon or Ponyta. It is only really stopped by the Chimchar lead, which is amazing. It always gets me off to a good start.
 

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If you want you can help discuss the metagame on LCF too :D

Turtwig kinda sucks balls at leading, what exactly does he _do_? It's just a generic Grass tank that seems kinda lame. Drifloon is really underused / underrated and is probably better than Gastly or Misdreavus, arguably.

Misdreavus is a defensive Pokémon too, if you see the set I added to the analysis a few days ago. It's probably worth an add.
 

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This should probably go on site even while it's not done, as people are reading the old LC article and assuming it's accurate, which almost none of it applies anymore to the LC metagame most people play.
 

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Agreeing, its not perfect yet but it has all the correct clauses/rules and a more up to date ban list. In its currant state it would be much more useful than the one that's up now.
 
When I complete this this is going to be massive and detailed although perhaps I may consolidate what I've done thus far and proofread and ask for that to be put up on the site whilst I continue to work on this.

Unfortunately I am snowed under with work a lot. Even literally right now.
 
Misaki, nitpicking my brilliant intro, I was proud of that!

Anyway, I love what you've done with the guide, it's better than what I could have done.

TehPiplupMan, my guide is not shitty - it was accurate when I typed it up.
 

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Agreeing, its not perfect yet but it has all the correct clauses/rules and a more up to date ban list. In its currant state it would be much more useful than the one that's up now.

This should probably go on site even while it's not done, as people are reading the old LC article and assuming it's accurate, which almost none of it applies anymore to the LC metagame most people play.

Well, it's preferable that the guide be complete before being put on site; although I do agree the metagame has evolved substantially.

If anyone needs help with basic stuff (I can't do a lot of pure content, although I've played a bit) hit me up in PM.

And no thorns, your guide was not shitty :). The metagame has changed and that is no fault of your own, your guide was appropriate for the time and no one should imply otherwise.
 
In the Leads Section with Meowth, I don't think it makes much sense, as you're using a 0 HP IV, to reduce it to 19 to reduce LO Recoil, and then having 76 HP EVs to increase it. If you put them into either defence, you get 1 extra point.
 
Well, it's preferable that the guide be complete before being put on site; although I do agree the metagame has evolved substantially.

If anyone needs help with basic stuff (I can't do a lot of pure content, although I've played a bit) hit me up in PM.

And no thorns, your guide was not shitty :). The metagame has changed and that is no fault of your own, your guide was appropriate for the time and no one should imply otherwise.
Thanks for the offer; I'll see where this guide is after the holidays and maybe start devolving help.

In the Leads Section with Meowth, I don't think it makes much sense, as you're using a 0 HP IV, to reduce it to 19 to reduce LO Recoil, and then having 76 HP EVs to increase it. If you put them into either defence, you get 1 extra point.
Changed. That was pretty stupid on my part since Meowth doesn't even need 76 HP points to reach a higher stat. I'm assuming c/p error.
 
Just a few questions about this.

Will the site be updated with sets for NFE Pokemon for the Little Cup or will it all be in this guide?

And also, since Murkrow is likely to be banned soon, is it worth me using one in a Little Cup team I'm planning to make? When will the testing for it end?
 

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Will the site be updated with sets for NFE Pokemon for the Little Cup or will it all be in this guide?
It is possible that at some point in the future Smogon may put up analysis for LC Pokemon, but probably not for some time if ever. I would assume it depends on how many people are interested in the metagame and how many are willing to work on analysis. In the mean time there is a substantial number of full analysis on the LCF (though many without Pt updates yet).

And also, since Murkrow is likely to be banned soon, is it worth me using one in a Little Cup team I'm planning to make?
Well.. If Krow fits on your team then why not use it? You could always replace it if/when it gets banned. If you really hate changing/making new teams then maybe don't use it but you should have a while and it can be a great asset to many teams.
When will the testing for it end?
Now that all the NFEs have got Pt tutors (at least on SU) we will begin official testing (I think around 2-3 weeks should be enough).

And yea, Thorns' guide was not "shitty", it is however massively outdated at this point.

Edit: Awesome, I wasted my 2,000th post here.. ahh well...
 

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An issue I'll have to bring up on LCF's Bronzor page (I think Eric actually did): Unless your opponent is higher than 20 Speed, Flash Cannon does more than Gyro Ball. This means that (except for stuff like Misdreavus) Flash Cannon is a better STAB attack as the Base 100+ Speed crowd is either already OHKOed (Diglett) or resists Gyro Ball (Elekid).
 
Staryu @ Life Orb
Natural Cure
200 SpA / 236 Spe
Timid
~ Surf / Hydro Pump
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunderbolt
~ Hidden Power Grass
I noticed these incomplete evs. Also i think this would look better with pictures like legacy raider's guides on hail and rain. Also wouldn't it be good to explain the leads in greater detail or alternatively just to make a whole little cup strategy dex of the viable and most popular pokemon in LC. Apart from this really cleared up a lot of things for me about LC and it seems like a really fun tier.
 

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Those EVs are the best with LO. After you max out SpA and Spe you can only get a point in HP, but that point would take you to 20 HP and doubling you LO recoil from 1 to 2. Therefore 200/236 is the best spread for LO Staryu.

We could make a lead guide, in fact I'll add that to the possible guides list.. and as for a strategy dex we are working on it. Only a few have been updated with Pt changes so far, but we have over 50 finished D/P analysis.
 

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I think he thinks that in Little Cup, you have to use all 508 EVs to get max stats. You don't.

A lead miniguide would be nice, though the ideal leads are basically the same kinds of leads one would use in OU.

Murkrow should be added to the Ubers section, finally.
 
OK, I'm going to make more of an effort to work on this. I'm devolving some sections since I'm far too busy to complete this by myself.
 
Introduction

Little Cup was spawned in Pokemon Stadium 2. The idea was that you bred to achieve the perfect baby Pokemon to battle. It was later reintroduced for Advance, and now Little Cup is back for the 4th Generation. The metagame is generally faster-paced than the standard Overused metagame which results in a Speed-centered environment where Pokemon rely on their resistances and immunities to counter the opponent's team and from there, execute their own team's strategy.

Rules
  • Only Pokemon hatched from eggs are eligible.
  • Eligible Pokemon must be able to evolve, and be the first in an evolution chain.
  • All Pokemon used MUST be at Level 5.
  • Sleep Clause is ON.
  • Self-KO Clause is ON
  • Evasion Clause is ON
  • OHKO Clause is ON
  • Species Clause is ON
  • Item Clause is OFF
  • The attacks SonicBoom and Dragon Rage are banned
  • The item DeepSeaTooth is banned
  • A Pokemon's attacks must be limited those that can be legitimately learnt by the Pokemon at Level 5
Item Clause

In the earlier stages of Little Cup, it was thought necessary that Item Clause should be in effect, the main reason being the propensity of players to put the item Focus Sash on multiple Pokemon and allow the Pokemon to survive what should be an OHKO and perhaps kill its counter.

Since then, there has been a shift of thinking and Item Clause is widely thought to be unneeded. One of the main reasons for this is the prominence of Stealth Rock, which when laid early will nullify Focus Sash unless it is removed by Rapid Spin. Furthermore, D/P brought Little Cup two new auto-weather inducers in the form of Snover and Hippopotas and so a Focus Sash user will die at the end of the turn should it use its item and take damage from Hail or the Sandstorm. Finally, the addition of Life Orb means that the typical Focus Sash users, frail but fast Pokemon, are forced to give up the extra damage output afforded by Life Orb over the ability to potential survive a hit that would normally kill it.

Banned Pokemon
  • Scyther - A moveset consisting of Swords Dance, Aerial Ace, Quick Attack, (comma) and Brick Break is almost unstoppable in Little Cup, with no Pokemon in Little Cup (removed "is able to") resists (removed "ing") that attack combination. Both Aerial Ace and Quick Attack have their power boosted by 50% due to Technician, the latter attack is vital in stopping Pokemon using Choice Scarf to outspeed it or in stopping slower users of priority attacks. Scyther's pedigree is enhanced by the sheer power of its Base Stats, boasting both the second highest Attack (Base 110) and the second highest Speed (Base 105)
  • Sneasel - Sneasel can run a similar moveset to Scyther consisting of Swords Dance, Ice Shard, Bite, (comma) and Brick Break and be equally difficult to stop. Also akin to Scyther, it boasts a priority attack and an attack combination that no Pokemon resists. 95 Base Attack and the highest unboosted Speed in Little Cup from a Base Stat of 115 make(removed "s") Sneasel all the harder to stop.
  • Yanma - Already in one of the highest Speed tiers, Yanma's Speed Boost ability means that after two turns it will outspeed virtually everything. From there it can wreak havoc with STAB Air Slash or STAB Bug Buzz from a respectable Special Attack or simply put to Sleep anything it can't kill with Hypnosis.
  • Tangela - With Sunny Day in effect, Tangela becomes an offensive juggernaut. Its Chlorophyll ability can take its Speed stat to 30 and it can power through anything not resistant to Grass-type attacks with SolarBeam from 100 Base Special Attack. Not even Munchlax can stand up to a Life Orb-boosted SolarBeam. Hidden Power Fire and AncientPower provide it with good type coverage or it can take the option of putting its counters to Sleep with Sleep Powder. Moreover, Tangela's bulky defensive nature -- in particular its 115 Base Defence -- makes it even harder to take down.
  • Meditite - Pure Power transforms Meditite into a very potent threat, reaching 28 Attack with no item boosts; not even Cranidos and its 125 Base Attack can match that. Hi Jump Kick, Psycho Cut, (comma) and Ice Punch give it all the coverage it needs, and such is the power of Hi Jump Kick is that with Life Orb it can OHKO Bronzor, arguably the best defensive Pokemon in Little Cup, who is not even weak to it. Alternatively, Choice Scarf can be used to remedy its modest Speed and make it difficult to revenge kill. May be tested again in the future.
  • Murkrow - Murkrow was allowed in Little Cup for longer than the rest of the banned Pokemon, (comma) but in the end it was deemed that its ability to sweep through multiple members of a team without any set-up pushed it over the banned threshold. Sucker Punch really makes Murkrow difficult to take on, bypassing the speed hierachy with an 80 Base Power STAB attack with priority running off 91 Base Speed (i.e. the second highest speed tier aside excluding Sneasel and Scyther). Pluck complements Sucker Punch and runs off its 85 Base Attack, and hits any Pokemon carrying a berry, such as the Oran Berry favoured by walls, for 120 Base Power (180 Base Power after STAB), disabling and consuming the berry in the process. Dark Pulse hits many physical walls such as Gligar and Koffing for plentiful damage and has a 20% flinch rate. Murkrow also has access to Hidden Power, Heat Wave, Calm Mind, (comma) and Pursuit. Murkrow was not unstoppable but was deemed too powerful and was also a clear centralizing force.
DeepSeaTooth
Clamperl is not banned but the DeepSeaTooth item is. DeepSeaTooth can give Clamperl up to 36 Special Attack, more than a Modest Choice Specs Abra, whilst still retaining freedom to switch attacks. Surf, Ice Beam, (comma) and Hidden Power Electric or Hidden Power Grass provide good coverage and not even Munchlax, the Pokemon widely considered to be the best Special wall in Little Cup, can switch in on Surf, being 2HKOed even taking Oran Berry into account. Its low Speed is a problem, (comma) but if it is Baton Passed one Agility then it will be incredibly dominant over an opponent's team. Without DeepSeaTooth however, Clamperl is much more manageable.

Eligible Pokemon

RBY Pokemon

GSC Pokemon

RSE Pokemon

D/P Pokemon

Move Legality - Credit to Mr Happy for the research

Since Little Cup is played with Level 5 Pokemon, this can cause discrepancies with Level 100 play in the Overused metagame with regards to what moves certain Pokemon cannot learn at that Level. It is important to check whether or not certain Pokemon can legitimately learn at that Level since it is forbidden to use moves that cannot be learnt by the Pokemon and Level 5. This section will guide you through the ways in which certain moves and move combinations are illegal. Note that impossible breeding combinations such as Hypnosis + Nasty Plot Zubat are already assumed illegal.

Genderless Pokemon
Genderless Pokemon lack the ability to breed unless it is with a Ditto. Thus, they do not have egg moves and lack the ability to pass on level-up moves to their offspring. As a consequence, genderless Pokemon in Little Cup cannot have any level-up move that is learned beyond Level 5. Take for example a Porygon. Its staple move is Tri Attack. However, it learns it at a higher level than 5, and is genderless. Thus, Tri Attack Porygon is illegal at Level 5. Bronzor is in the same boat: its evolution, Bronzong, is seldom seen without Hypnosis, which Bronzor learns at Level 7 and thus is illegal in Little Cup.

D/P Introduced Moves
Moves, both egg and Level-up, that were introduced in the fourth generation moves, and are learned after Level 5, are illegal together with 3rd gen Move Tutor moves.

For example, Mankey with Ice Punch and Close Combat is illegal: if it was taught Ice Punch in Emerald, it couldn't been bred with Close Combat; and if it was bred with Close Combat, it can't go to Emerald to receive Ice Punch.

3rd Generation Move Tutor / Other Game Special Moves
These moves are illegal together with any move introduced in D/P that is an egg move or is learned after Level 5. They are also illegal with any new ability introduced in D/P, since the ability change only occurs during evolution. For example, Ice Punch (3rd gen tutor) + Close Combat (4th gen level-up) Mankey is illegal. Technician Meowth with Swift is illegal, but Pickup Swift Meowth is not.

Little Cup Pokemon that can use a move that comes from Pokemon XD and is caught in that game at a level higher than 5 are illegal with that move. In the event they are able to use it, it will be illegal together with any egg or level-up move.

Special moves from Pokemon Box eggs are illegal with any level-up or egg move, as they come from a pre-made egg that hatches at Level 5. This is the reason why Belly Drum + ExtremeSpeed Zigzagoon is illegal; as ExtremeSpeed comes from an egg from Pokémon Box, and it hatches at Level 5. For Belly Drum to be available to that Zigzagoon, it would be needed for two Linoone with Belly Drum to breed, but that egg cannot hatch with ExtremeSpeed.

Event Moves
Event moves are illegal together with any Egg Move or Level-up move learned after Level 5. If said event took place in D/P, they are also illegal with any 3rd generation move.

Standards

This is quick sample of common Pokemon and their likely movesets. It is important to remember that this list is not exhaustive and you will likely encounter Pokemon not listed here and so it is recommended that you read the full list of eligible Pokemon.

Notable Walls

Bronzor @ Oran Berry / Shed Shell
Levitate
220 HP / 4 Atk / 68 Def / 148 SpD
IVs: 0 Spe
Relaxed
~ Stealth Rock
~ Gyro Ball
~ Earthquake
~ Reflect / Light Screen

Bronzor is the most prominent defensive Pokemon in Little Cup thanks to its wide array of resistances coupled with two further immunities. This allows it to take on powerful threats on both sides of the spectrum, such as Teddiursa, Gligar, Larvitar, Abra, (comma) and the ever-common Murkrow. Bronzor plays in a similar fashion to Bronzong in the Overused metagame, being an equally reliable Stealth Rock user as its evolution. Hypnosis is absent as Bronzor is genderless and it thus cannot learn it at Level 5. In its place, either Reflect or Light Screen can be used for team support. Shed Shell is a viable option on Bronzor, as Magnet Rise allows Magnemite to beat it one on one.

Chinchou @ Oran Berry / Shed Shell
Volt Absorb
156 HP / 52 Def / 228 SpD / 60 Spe
Calm
~ Surf
~ Thunderbolt
~ Thunderwave
~ Confuse Ray

Although Chinchou's base 75 HP / 38 Def / 56 SpD defensive stats may seem lacking, its resistances certainly are not; Chinchou enjoys resistances to Water, Ice, (comma) and Fire as well as healing 25% should an Electric attack be directed at it. These are common attack types used by special attackers which makes Chinchou worthy of a slot in your team should you want extra protection from the likes of Porygon, Houndour, Staryu, (comma) and others. Surf and Thunderbolt takes advantage of Chinchou's unique dual-STAB to provide good type coverage (as such an Agility sweeper set is very viable) and in addition, Chinchou can make use of Parafusion to slow your opponent's momentum. Chinchou is very vulnerable to Diglett and so again, Shed Shell is an option. Perhaps the greatest tribute to Chinchou is the fact that many Water and Fire types carry Hidden Power Grass.

Gligar @ Oran Berry
Sand Veil
236 HP / 236 Def
Impish
~ Earthquake
~ Roost
~ Stealth Rock
~ Stone Edge / Taunt

Gligar makes an almost impervious physical wall with 105 base Defense and access to Roost. Consequently, Gligar is one of the best users of Stealth Rock as well as being a great switch into Fighting-type attacks, (comma) but must be wary of Ice Punch, which both Mankey and Machop have access to. Despite this, it is one of the best switches into Cranidos, Larvitar, Rhyhorn, Croagunk, (comma) and pure-physical Murkrow.

Mantyke @ Oran Berry
Water Absorb
236 HP / 36 Def / 40 SpA / 196 SpD
Calm
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam
~ Hidden Power Grass
~ Protect / Haze

Whilst generally less common than Chinchou, Mantyke has a few advantages over its fellow special wall. Firstly, Mantyke has no fear of being trapped by Diglett and secondly, Mantyke boasts a huge 120 base special defense, meaning that it gets 24 HP and 23 Special Defense with these EVs. Its raw defensive stats allows it to negate most special threats that do not carry Thunderbolt and it has a useful niche in stopping Water and Fire-types that tend to use Hidden Power Grass for the more common Chinchou. The moveset is rather self-explanatory with the three damage-dealing attacks given to maximize type coverage whilst in the last slot, Protect can scout for a random Electric move whereas Haze can help with dealing with Croagunk and other stat boosters.

Munchlax @ Oran Berry / Chesto Berry
Thick Fat
76 HP / 156 Atk / 236 SpD
Careful / Sassy
~ Return
~ Earthquake
~ Pursuit
~ Fire Punch / Fire Blast / Rest

Munchlax is a top tier Little Cup pokemon, being both an offensive juggernaut as well as an effective special wall. Munchlax's massive 135 base HP and 85 base Special Defense turns it into a one-stop counter for all but the most powerful special attackers with Thick Fat only serving to further emphasize its credentials. On the offensive side of things, Munchlax's Return from 85 base Attack is one of the most powerful physical moves around and in combination with Earthquake, a Fire-type attack of choice and Pursuit for Gastly and Misdreavus, Munchlax achieves perfect coverage. With regards to item choice, Munchlax's massive HP means that an Oran Berry heals around 30% of maximum HP and so the option of Rest and Chesto Berry is very viable.

Shieldon @ Oran Berry / Shed Shell
Sturdy
196 HP / 132 Def / 20 SpA / 132 SpD
Relaxed / Sassy
~ Stealth Rock
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunderbolt / Flamethrower
~ Magnet Rise

Shieldon is an extremely useful wall in Little Cup, being the best counter available to mixed Dragon Dance Dratini as well as Murkrow without Hidden Power Fighting. Stealth Rock is rarer in Little Cup than in the normal Overused metagame and Shieldon's multiple resistances allows it to make good use of it. Magnet Rise allows it to escape the grasps of its nemesis Diglett as well as being able to avoid Earthquakes from common Pokemon like Munchlax and Bronzor. Ice Beam is listed to hit Murkrow, Dratini, (comma) and Gible for super effective damage. Thunderbolt hits Water-types and forms part of the BoltBeam combination whereas Flamethrower hits steels. Shed Shell can be used to keep Shieldon safe from Magnemite should you opt fors Flamethrower. Finally, it is worth noting that Shieldon's already excellent 88 base Special Defense (higher than Munchlax's for instance) allows it to become an excellent special wall in sand, when paired with Hippopotas.

Koffing @ Oran Berry
Levitate
196 HP / 236 Def / 36 SpA
Relaxed
~ Taunt
~ Sludge Bomb
~ Flamethrower / Thunderbolt
~ Explosion / Pain Split / Will-o-Wisp

Koffing boasts 95 base Defense and a typing that makes it the best Fighting-type counter in the metagame. Taunt is useful for stopping sweepers using it as set-up bait. Sludge Bomb and Flamethrower provide good coverage, and the latter will hit Dry Skin Croagunk for super effective damage, although could be replaced by Thunderbolt should you fear Murkrow particularly. Most Koffing tend to explode after they have finished their job although there are alternatives, should you want Koffing to stick around longer.

Hippopotas @ Oran Berry
Sand Stream
212 HP / 20 Atk / 212 Def / 20 SpD / 20 Spe
Impish
~ Stealth Rock
~ Earthquake
~ Rock Slide
~ Slack Off / Yawn

Hippopotas is one of the elite band of Pokemon in the metagame that can set up Stealth Rock reliably and is also one of two physical walls -- the other being Gligar -- that has access to a reliable recovery move. With these EVs, Hippopotas generates 26 HP and 18 Defense which combined with its Ground typing allows it to be an effective counter to Cranidos, Larvitar, (comma) and Rhyhorn amongst others. Despite this, Hippopotas's premier attraction is its Sand Stream trait which makes it essential for sandstorm-based teams.

Common Sweepers

Dratini @ Life Orb
Shed Skin
84 Atk / 196 SpA / 196 Spe
IVs: 0 HP
Rash
~ Dragon Dance
~ Outrage
~ Fire Blast
~ Draco Meteor

The Mixed-Dancer Dratini is one of the most potentially destructive sweepers in the metagame. After one Dragon Dance, Dratini will reach the magical 21 speed mark which allows it to outpace all Pokemon without a Speed boost (with the exception of the banned Sneasel and Scyther). A +1 Life Orbed Outrage will tear through anything without a gargantuan Defense stat that isn't of the Steel type and most Pokemon that can withstand Outrage will get roasted by Draco Meteor. For example, Gligar (with Max HP / Max Def+) who takes around 70% on average from a boosted Outrage, has a chance of being OHKOed by Draco Meteor and is OHKOed on average with Stealth Rock down. Fire Blast is almost the perfect move to round off the set, being another high Base Power move and completing the Dragon/Fire attacking combination which is unresisted. The most common Steel type, Bronzor, takes around 90% damage from Fire Blast.

Shieldon (particularly in the sand) is the only Pokemon that can reliably take on and beat Dratini, although smart playing to lure out Outrage or Draco Meteor will help immensely when trying to stop it. However, do not be intimidated by Dratini initially, it is relatively slow before a Dragon Dance at 14 speed, so you can usually hit it hard before it sets up. It is also quite easily revenge killed with any moderately fast Pokemon with Choice Scarf, (comma) and is weak to Ice Shard.

Note: The 0 HP is to lower its HP stat to 19, meaning that Life Orb recoil is 1 HP or approximately 5% instead of taking twice that amount.

Gligar @ Oran Berry / Yache Berry
Sand Veil
236 Atk / 236 Spe
Jolly
~ Swords Dance
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge
~ Quick Attack / Brick Break / Baton Pass

Gligar can also function as a semi-bulky Swords Dancer, (comma) and a very good one at that. Its defenses, typing, (comma) and Oran Berry mean that after a Swords Dance (or even two)(removed comma) (removed "is not hard to come by") (removed "after which") it can hit very hard, OHKOing common Pokemon like Munchlax with Earthquake and dealing upwards of 80% damage to even Hippopotas, a physical wall. All this comes off the back of a Speed stat of 19, which places it in the second highest bracket of unboosted Speeds. With regards to the last slot, Quick Attack is useful for preventing revenge-kills whilst Brick Break is Gligar's best chance of beating Bronzor (it will nullify Reflect and thus is superior to X-Scissor or Aqua Tail). Baton Pass can be used to bail out if Gligar faces a Pokemon it cannot beat with Buizel in particular making a good recipient of Swords Dance due to its complementary typing and access to priority attacks.

Gligar @ Life Orb
Sand Veil
156 HP/ 236 Atk / 76 Spe
Adamant
~ Agility
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge
~ Brick Break / Roost / Baton Pass

Agility Gligar functions more as a cleaner rather than a brute attacker like the Swords Dancer. Before an Agility, Gligar has a respectable 16 Speed, (comma) which in the space of one turn doubles into 32 Speed, at which point you outspeed all Pokemon, even with Choice Scarf. Even without Swords Dance, a STAB Life Orbed Earthquake from 18 Attack is not to be underestimated; the same Hippopotas mentioned in the Swords Dance set comments (no comma) takes over 60% on average from Earthquake and the same Munchlax takes 87% on average. Stone Edge again, supplements Earthquake's coverage. In the last slot, Brick Break is again your best chance of beating Bronzor whilst Roost helps preserve Gligar, taking advantage of the more defensive EV spread and recovering off Life Orb recoil. Gligar can also make a potent Agility-passer with Baton Pass an ever credible option.

This set has more troubles with traditional Gligar counters such as Bronzor and bulky Grass- and Water-types but also punishes opponent's who rely on revenge killers such as Elekid or Choice Scarfers to beat Gligar.

Misdreavus @ Oran Berry / Salac Berry / Life Orb
Levitate
240 SpA / 240 Spe
Timid
~ Calm Mind
~ Shadow Ball
~ Thunderbolt / Hidden Power Fighting
~ Destiny Bond / Substitute

Misdreavus is a top-tier Little Cup Pokemon. Its three immunities - all of which are common types - allow it to come in often unscathed and its 19 Speed stat means it will - more often than not - attack first. Misdreavus is most commonly seen as Calm Mind user, (comma) and with just two attacks, it can gain complete type coverage. Its STAB Shadow Ball will hit hard after a Calm Mind and Thunderbolt can be used to hit incoming Murkrow whilst Hidden Power Fighting helps it beat Munchlax rather easily. Despite Misdreavus's offensive nature, Oran Berry is a good item choice for it as after a Calm Mind; Misdreavus will have 22 HP / 22 SpDef defenses and can function as a special wall of sorts. Salac Berry on the other hand, works well with Substitute and allows Misdreavus to outspeed most scarfers after a boost.

Croagunk @ Life Orb / Focus Sash
Dry Skin
108 Atk / 188 SpA / 198 Spe
Rash
~ Nasty Plot
~ Vacuum Wave
~ Sludge Bomb / Dark Pulse
~ Sucker Punch / Cross Chop

Houndour @ Life Orb / Focus Sash / Shed Shell
Flash Fire
200 SpA / 40 SpD / 244 Spe
Timid
~ Nasty Plot
~ Flamethrower / Fire Blast
~ Dark Pulse
~ Hidden Power Fighting

Teddiursa @ Toxic Orb
Quick Feet
116 HP / 196 Atk / 196 Spe
Jolly
~ Protect
~ Facade
~ Crunch
~ Close Combat

Teddiursa owes its potency to its Quick Feet ability, which allows it to reach the famed 21 Speed mark should it be inflicted with status. On the first turn, you should use Protect to activate the Toxic Orb. From there, Teddiursa can decimate opponents with its STAB 140 Base Power Facade running off 17 Attack. Crunch hits Ghost-types whilst Close Combat hammers Rock- and Steel-types. Of Pokemon of those two types, only Bronzor and defensively EVed Onix and Rhyhorn can survive a Close Combat.

Teddiursa is rather vulnerable to being revenge-killed, so Choice Scarf Diglett makes a useful partner as you can pick off bulky Rock-types and also slower Choice Scarfers that would normally try to end Teddiursa's sweep.

Larvitar @ Toxic Orb
Guts
36 HP / 244 Atk / 188 Spe
Jolly
~ Dragon Dance
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge
~ Superpower / Protect

After one Dragon Dance, this Larvitar is able to reach 36 Attack and 21 Speed and is ready to wreak havoc onto opposing teams with dual-STAB on Earthquake and Stone Edge. Superpower is a great option for hitting Bronzor, who is the main adversary of this set, dealing an estimate of 76% damage after a Dragon Dance. In its place, Protect can be used to safely activate Guts if you do not have the time to use Dragon Dance to further boost your power. Toxic Orb is the recommended item as it deals less damage to Larvitar in the first few turns of the battle than a Flame Orb induced burn.

Rhyhorn @ Life Orb / Oran Berry
Rock Head / Lightningrod
236 Atk / 236 Spe
Adamant / Jolly
~ Rock Polish
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge
~ Megahorn / Fire Fang

Abra @ Choice Specs
Synchronize
240 SpA / 200 Spe
Modest / Timid
~ Psychic
~ Hidden Power Fire
~ Signal Beam
~ Energy Ball

Staryu @ Life Orb
Natural Cure
200 SpA / 236 Spe
Timid
~ Surf / Hydro Pump
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunderbolt
~ Hidden Power Grass

Staryu is one of the best late-game cleaners, in part due to it reaching 19 Speed and not being weak to any priority moves, (comma) but also due to its fantastic type coverage these 4 attacks afford it. Surf will 2HKO or threaten to OHKO (removed "to") anything that doesn't resist it and that does not have significant investment in Special Defense and is usually superior to Hydro Pump due to its better accuracy, although the raw power of the latter is not to be underestimated; Staryu deals at least 50% to Munchlax. Staryu, unlike most other Water-types, has the ability to make use of Electric- and Grass-type attacks on the same set; Thunderbolt will OHKO Mantyke whilst Chinchou takes in the region of 70% from Hidden Power Grass.

Porygon @ Life Orb / Oran Berry
Download
120 Def / 240 SpA / 80 SpD
IVs: 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 2 Spe
Quiet
~ Trick Room
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunderbolt
~ Hidden Power Fighting

Gastly @ Life Orb / Leftovers / Wide Lens
Levitate
116 HP / 196 SpA / 196 Spe
Timid / Naive
~ Hypnosis
~ Shadow Ball
~ Thunderbolt / Hidden Power Fighting
~ Explosion / Substitute

Buizel @ Life Orb
Swift Swim
236 Atk / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
Jolly
~ Bulk Up
~ Aqua Jet
~ Waterfall
~ Return

Elekid @ Life Orb / Petaya Berry
Static
176 Atk / 80 SpA / 236 Spe
IVs: 3 HP / 30 Atk / 30 SpA
Mild / Hasty
~ Thunderbolt
~ Ice Punch
~ Cross Chop / Focus Punch
~ Hidden Power Grass / Substitute

Magby @ Expert Belt / Shed Shell
Flame Body
236 Atk / 252 Spe
Hasty
~ Flare Blitz
~ Cross Chop
~ ThunderPunch
~ Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Ice / Overheat

Magby can make good use of a physical-based set thanks to its ability to reach the 19 Speed tier and formidable Attack. Flare Blitz slams hard into anything that doesn't resist it and has the added bonus of OHKOing Bronzor, a prominent wall. Cross Chop dismantles any Munchlax silly enough to flaunt Thick Fat and has a chance to OHKO offensive Rhyhorn as well as any Rock-types less defensive than it. ThunderPunch will keep the Water-types at bay. In the last slot, Hidden Power Grass is usually the best option to ensure an OHKO on defensive Rhyhorn, Onix, (comma) and other Rock/Ground types in addition to deterring Chinchou, (comma) whereas Hidden Power Ice is a clean OHKO on Gligar. Overheat is alternative attack against Fire weak Pokemon which deals huge damage without the recoil damage of Flare Blitz.

Expert Belt is chosen over Life Orb due to the propensity for Flare Blitz recoil to combine with a Stealth Rock weakness to result in residual damage building up quickly. Shed Shell can be used to punish teams reliant on stopping it with Diglett.

Revenge Killers

Mankey @ Choice Scarf
Vital Spirit
36 HP / 200 Atk / 240 Spe
Jolly
~ Close Combat
~ Ice Punch
~ Punishment
~ U-turn

Psyduck @ Choice Scarf
Cloud Nine
24 Atk / 240 SpA / 236 Spe
Naive
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam
~ Hidden Power Grass
~ Cross Chop

Carvanha @ Choice Scarf
Rough Skin
36 Atk / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
Naive / Rash
~ Aqua Jet
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam
~ Crunch

Diglett @ Choice Scarf / Life Orb / Focus Sash
Arena Trap
36 HP / 236 Atk / 236 Spe
Lonely / Hasty
~ Earthquake
~ Sucker Punch
~ Hidden Power Ice
~ Pursuit / Shadow Claw / Aerial Ace

Cranidos @ Choice Scarf
Mold Breaker
236 Atk / 36 SpA / 212 Spe
Naughty
~ Stone Edge / Head Smash
~ Earthquake
~ Ice Beam
~ Superpower / Pursuit / Zen Headbutt

Useful Leads

Meowth @ Focus Sash / Life Orb
Technician
236 Atk / 76 Def / 196 Spe
IVs: 0 HP
Jolly
~ Hypnosis
~ Fake Out
~ U-turn
~ Bite / Return

Meowth functions as a useful lead as well as a potent revenge killer later on in the match. Technician boosts Fake Out to 60 Base Power, which combined with STAB and Life Orb will put a sizeable dent into any opposing lead that doesn't resist Normal. Should the opponent be wary of this tactic and switch in a suitable Pokemon to sponge the Fake Out, Meowth can then proceed to Hypnosis the next switch in and U-turn out, without having taken damage from the opponent. Bite is Technician boosted and hits Ghost-types whilst Return is the most reliable damage-inflicting attack that Meowth possesses. Meowth's high speed is what makes it able to make full use of this set, reaching 19 speed which only Elekid, Diglett, (comma) and Voltorb can beat without a Speed boost.

Note: The 0 HP IV reduces Meowth's HP stat to 19 and so reduces Life Orb recoil.

Chimchar @ Focus Sash
Blaze
84 HP / 4 Def / 212 SpA / 4 SpD / 188 Spe
Timid
~ Flamethrower
~ U-turn
~ Taunt / Fake Out / Protect
~ Stealth Rock

Chimchar is one of the better options for stopping set up leads. Immediately, that STAB Flamethrower frightens Bronzor and Gligar. Taunt can be used to stop Stealth Rock leads and Baton Passers, although Fake Out can be used in conjuction in U-turn in a similar way that Meowth does, but Chimchar is inferior in that respect as Meowth has 19 Speed stat compared to Chimchar's 16 and Meowth's Fake Out Base Power is over twice as high as Chimchar's. Chimchar can use Protect in the same slot to help dscout the opponent's next move and safeguard itself from Meowth and other Fake Out users. Chimchar does have some advantages over similar leads, primarily its ability to set up Stealth Rock but also its oft-overlooked Blaze trait which works well with Focus Sash. For example, Chimchar can survive a Diglett Earthquake with Focus Sash and then OHKO back with a Blaze-boosted Flamethrower.

Ponyta @ Wide Lens
Flash Fire
236 Atk / 76 Def / 196 Spe
Jolly
~ Hypnosis
~ Will-o-Wisp
~ Flare Blitz
~ Return

Drifloon @ Wide Lens / Petaya Berry
Unburden
196 HP / 4 Def / 36 SpA / 4 SpD / 196 Spe
Timid
~ Hypnosis
~ Substitute
~ Baton Pass
~ Shadow Ball

Offensive Threat List

Murkrow
Dark/Flying 85 Atk / 85 SpA / 91 Spe
It has a powerful STAB priority move in Sucker Punch that combos nicely with Pursuit and Drill Peck, two moves that also gain STAB running off its ample Attack. It can also run special moves effectively and is one of the fastest non-Scarf Pokemon.

Staryu
Water 45 Atk / 70 SpA / 85 Spe
Fast and hits with good type coverage. A Life Orbed Surf will OHKO or 2HKO most Pokemon that it hits neutral with Stealth Rock down, and Thunderbolt and Ice Beam hit(removed "s") the majority of Pokemon that Surf cannot.

Dratini
Dragon 64 Atk / 50 SpA / 50 Spe
Can boost its mediocre Speed with Dragon Dance and gets Outrage, which is resisted by very few, to take advantage of its heightened Attack. Draco Meteor is another powerful STAB move that it gains, which(rearranged), along with Fire Blast, can combine with a STAB move to make a combination that hits every Little Cup pokemon at least neutral.

Elekid
Electric 63 Atk / 65 SpA / 95 Spe
It has access to a diverse movepool, including Thunderbolt, ThunderPunch, Ice Punch, Psychic, (comma) Cross Chop, (comma) and Fire Punch, (comma) which when coupled with its high Speed, enables it to use a mixed set effectively.

Gligar
Ground/Flying 75 Atk / 35 SpA / 85 Spe
With its high defences, Gligar is often able to find time to boost its already credible Attack with Swords Dance and it can then sweep using a combination of Earthquake and Stone Edge and has the option of Baton Passing its Attack and Speed (removed a repetitive part of the sentence) boosts to an ally.

Abra
Psychic 20 Atk / 105 SpA / 90 Spe
A Choice Specs Psychic will OHKO most Pokemon in Little Cup, and the threat it poses is enhanced by its high Speed, which ties with the likes of Elekid, Magby, Misdreavus, (comma) and Murkrow amongst others.

Gastly
Ghost/Poison 35 Atk / 100 SpA / 80 Spe
Shadow Ball, Thunderbolt, (comma) and Hidden Power [Fighting] provide(removed "s") excellent coverage off its high Special Attack and Speed. Life Orb or Choice Specs enable it to OHKO or 2HKO most Pokemon with Shadow Ball, and can also use Hypnosis, Will-o-Wisp, (comma) and Explosion to beat some of its counters.

Cranidos
Rock 125 Atk / 30 SpA / 58 Spe
It is able to fire STAB Stone Edges and Head Smashes off the same base Attack as Heracross. Mold Breaker means Gastly and Bronzor do not enjoy immunity to Earthquake and it can remedy its modest Speed with Choice Scarf or Rock Polish.

Misdreavus
Ghost 60 Atk / 85 SpA / 85 Spe
Three immunities allow it switch in repeatedly, coupled with good Speed and Special Attack. Notable moves include Calm Mind, Shadow Ball, Thunderbolt, Will-o-Wisp, (comma) and Taunt.

Magby
Fire 75 Atk / 70 SpA / 83 Spe
Similar to Elekid, in regards to his high Attack, Special Attack, (comma) and Speed. Also akin to Elekid, this is combined with a great movepool, which notably includes Fire Punch, Flare Blitz, (comma) and Flamethrower as STAB moves as well as Focus Punch, Psychic, Cross Chop, (comma) and ThunderPunch.

Teddiursa
Normal 80 Atk / 50 SpA / 40 Spe
Once inflicted with status,(often via a Toxic Orb) Teddiursa outspeeds all non-Scarf Pokemon with the exception of the banned Sneasel and Scyther. At this point, it can attempt to sweep with a combination of a STAB 140 power Facade, Close Combat, (comma) and Crunch, a combination that no Pokemon in Little Cup resists.

Houndour
Dark/Fire 60 Atk / 80 SpA / 65 Spe
With respectable, if not spectacular, Special Attack and Speed, Houndour can make good use of Nasty Plot to power up its STAB Flamethower or Fire Blast and Dark Pulse which few pokemon resist in tandem. It also can use STAB Pursuit on the physical side (no comma) to punish fleeing victims, making a Choice Scarf set very useful. Flash Fire is another thing to take into consideration.

Kabuto
Rock/Water 80 Atk / 55 SpA / 55 Spe
Swift Swim allows it outrun most of the metagame, provided with some Speed EVs, in the rain. It can then sweep with its almost unresisted dual STAB. Has access to a priority move in the form of Aqua Jet to outspeed other priority users.

Rhyhorn
Ground/Rock 85 Atk / 30 SpA / 25 Spe
Gains STAB on two high powered moves in Stone Edge and Earthquake, which provide good coverage in Little Cup and run off its high Attack. Megahorn and Fire Fang can be used to supplement its STAB moves. A common strategy is to use Rock Polish on it, which doubles its poor Speed after one use, and makes Rhyhorn into a deadly sweeper.

Mankey
Fighting 80 Atk / 35 SpA / 70 Spe
It has access to Close Combat, Elemental punches (illegal with the aforementioned Close Combat), (comma) and a wide array of physical moves running off its high Attack as well as access to U-Turn to scout switches. Often seen making use of Choice Scarf. It can also gain immunity to Sleep thanks to Vital Spirit.

Carvanha
Water/Dark 90 Atk / 65 SpA / 65 Spe
Can attack with a combination of STAB moves that are resisted by few together with the option of Physical moves such as Crunch, Waterfall, Aqua Jet, (comma) and Ice Fang, which run off its great Attack, (comma) or Special moves such as Surf, Ice Beam, (comma) and Dark Pulse which run off its lower but still respectable Special Attack. Often uses Choice Scarf to boost its slightly lacking Speed.

Munchlax
Normal 85 Atk / 40 SpA / 5 Spe
A STAB Return from his large Attack threatens to OHKO or 2HKO most Pokemon that it hits for neutral. For those who resist Return, Munchlax gets access to Earthquake, Pursuit, Focus Punch, Zen Headbutt, (comma) as well as Fire Blast to hit Bronzor for super effective damage. Especially dangerous under Trick Room conditions.

Diglett
Ground 55 Atk / 35 SpA / 95 Spe
Not a direct threat a such, but a good battler will be wary of its ability to trap Pokemon at will and pick them off. Choice Scarf allows it to outspeed almost everything whilst Earthquake, Sucker Punch, Rock Slide, Pursuit, (comma) and Aerial Ace are common moves and can be boosted by Choice Band and Life Orb, making use of its high Speed. Even an unboosted Earthquake will do over 50% to most Pokemon.

Omanyte
Rock/Water 40 Atk / 90 SpA / 35 Spe
Swift Swim and a high Special Attack make(removed "s") Omanyte a potent threat in the rain. With Life Orb, anything that doesn't resist Water is OHKOed by Surf, bar Munchlax who is 2HKOed. In conjunction with Surf, a STABed AncientPower and also Ice Beam can be used for good coverage.

Gible
Dragon/Ground 70 Atk / 40 SpA / 42 Spe
Poses a threat due to STAB on Earthquake and Outrage coming off its relatively high attack, and when equipped in a Choice Band, these moves will OHKO the vast majority that do not resist it. It is only held back by its poor Speed, which can be cured to an extent by a Choice Scarf. A STAB Draco Meteor can also threaten opponents.

Porygon
Normal 60 Atk / 85 SpA / 40 Spe
Its already high Special Attack can be boosted spontaneously by Download, and whilst it lacks a reliable STAB Special Move, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball, (comma) and Hidden Power Fighting provide(removed "s") more than enough coverage between them. It can also threaten on the physical side, with STAB Return, should Download boost its Attack. Often carries Trick Room, to reverse the detrimental effect of its low Speed.

Croagunk
Poison/Fighting 61 Atk / 61 SpA / 50 Spe
The main danger it poses is through a combination of Nasty Plot and STAB Vacuum Wave complemented by STAB Sludge Bomb and often Dark Pulse. However, with respectable attacking stats on both side of the spectrum and with Cross Chop, a choice of physical priority moves in addition to X-Scissor and Rock Slide, Croagunk can also pose a significant threat on the physical side.

Speed Tiers

Item Analysis

Common Strategies
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I stopped commenting on Mukrow as I assumed you would do something with all the examples using it, et cetera.

thanks for taking taking the time putting this together.
 
I appreciate the effort a lot (I'm being sincere) but whilst the content is subject to change your time has been wasted to an extent.
 

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