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DP Research Thread #1 ("Old")
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I'm interested in the effects of the damage returning berries (Jaboca and Rowap), do they work like mini-counter/mirror coats or is their damage a set %?
Cool stuff. Is it an immediate heal or is it at the end of the turn?
I'm curious: when you were testing this, which language version was the one using Pursuit?
Is Aqua Ring passable like Ingrain?
Does U-Turn pass stat changes to the next Pokemon?
Does U-Turn pass stat changes to the next Pokemon?
I'm curious: when you were testing this, which language version was the one using Pursuit?
Both. I tried it from the English game and the Japanese game.
Both. I tried it from the English game and the Japanese game.
Yes and no. The holder of Big Root recovers 30% more of its HP per turn if it Leech Seeds the foe. However, the foe gets drained the same amount of damage.
For example, against a Pokemon with max HP of 260, the opponent gets drained 16 HP (260 / 16 = 16 rounded down) per turn, but you heal 20 HP per turn (16 x 1.3 = 20 rounded down).
I don't have the answer for that exactly, but it seems like Revenge when "activated" (takes damage first) doesn't deal the attractive looking 180 base damage after technician, but rather double the base 60, which really sucks. My ~30 Technitop was doing something like 60% damage with Revenge w/o activation to the Socialite outside of the Pokemon Mansion's lvl 40 Roselia, yet I was dissapointed when I didn't deal a OHKO when it Petaldanced me first the next time I VS. Seekered her.
I'd imagine the same conditions would apply to Pursuit, but I could be wrong. I'm not familiar with how a NPC Trainer's pokemon are "spawned" and whether or not there's a random factor as far as IVs or Natures are concerned, that could have possibly affected my "test".
Does Klutz prevent the use of EXP.Share, Amulet Coin, Macho Brace, EV power items, etc.?
What if your Pokemon with Big Root used Leech Seed and then switched out? Would the HP recovery still be the same on the Pokemon that you switched to?
I suppose that if the Pokemon that you switched to is also holding Big Root, then yes. Otherwise, no.
Not really related to the Enigma berry, but this reminded me of my question on page two:
Maybe if you have the Enigma, you have the other three?
The Custap looks like it lets you go first (what priority?) the next turn if you're brought down to 25%. The Jaboca and Rowap seem to give recoil (how much?) to an opponents physical or special attack respectively.
Also I'm now questioning the effect of the Micle Berry. It raises the accuracy of a move "just once"? Either it really sucks or it makes the next attack no-miss (which still isn't that good but whatever).
Payback seems to work as advertised. I was using my Bronzong against a Gastrodon.
Round 1:
Bronzong used Payback! (normal damage)
Gastrodon used Body Slam!
It's not very effective!
Bronzong is paralyzed!
Round 2:
Gastrodon used Hidden Power!
Bronzong used Payback! (twice as much damage)
Round 3:
Gastrodon used Rain Dance!
It started to rain!
Bronzong used Payback! (twice as much damage)
So as far as I can tell, Payback does double damage as long as the target has already moved that turn. It doesn't matter whether the target attacks the user of Payback or not.
However, a doubt still lingered in my mind since Rain Dance could be viewed as targeting all Pokemon on the field. So, I tried it against a Floatzel with Agility. Payback did the same amount of damage whether the Floatzel attacked my Bronzong or used Agility.
I plan to test Assurance later today, as soon as I can Pal Park up my Poochyena.
EDIT: On a side note, it appears likely that a Pokemon's Ability when Pal Parked and evolved is chosen at the time of transfer, not at the time of Pal Park catching.
How does Rivalry work? Does your att go +1 when you 'see' a Pokemon of the same gender? Like a switch in, or a Pokemon replacing a fainted Pokemon? And does this apply to switching/fainting from your side or the opponent? And does it happen every time your opponent switches/faints, or only when you first come in like Intimidate? And I heard att goes -1 if the Pokemon is of the other gender, is that true?
Thanks for the kind words! Unfortunately, right now I don't seem have the resources to easily test whether a fully paralyzed opponent gets hit for double damage by Payback. However, I did test an opponent that smacked itself during confusion and under these circumstances, Payback still does double damage. If I get a chance later, I'll test paralysis, but I'm willing to wager that Payback counts full paralysis as an action.
I've started testing Assurance. This too seems to work correctly. I used to think that Assurance was only useful in 2v2, but I have confirmed that an opponent that has taken damage from confusion takes double damage from Assurance if it is used later that same round.
Some other things that I'd like to test:
Does Spikes/Stealth Rock damage cause Assurance to do double damage?
Does recoil?
Does Life Orb recoil?
I'll probably have to set up a battle with someone to test this stuff, so it might be a little while. I'll post my results later.
I've started testing Assurance. This too seems to work correctly. I used to think that Assurance was only useful in 2v2, but I have confirmed that an opponent that has taken damage from confusion takes double damage from Assurance if it is used later that same round.
Some other things that I'd like to test:
Does Spikes/Stealth Rock damage cause Assurance to do double damage?
Does recoil?
Does Life Orb recoil?
I'll probably have to set up a battle with someone to test this stuff, so it might be a little while. I'll post my results later.
The way I've seen it work is that whenever your Pokemon is in battle with another of the same gender, your attack gets raised by 1.5 times. It's an "invisible" modifier, like Choice Band, so something with Rivalry could still use, say, Howl to raise it's attack further. If you face an opponent of the opposite gender, your attack just goes to normal, not down below normal. This isn't like intimidate, either, in that Rivalry will keep working throughout the battle, not just at once.
Awesome, thank you very much. I know this likely isn't the place for this sort of question, but that would mean that on the whole, leftovers are more efficient, correct?
Exactly; unless your opponent's HP is much, much higher than yours, i.e. Shroomish vs. Blissey, then leftovers will always still be better in the long run.
12.5% of the attacker's max HP. Sorry for not making that clear.
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