Dustox (Update)

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I love Dustox. It's so bad.




Dustox

Status: 2 / 2 QC Approvals 2 / 2 GP


[Overview]

<p>Unfortunately for Dustox, it's hard to deny that he's simply a terrible Pokemon to use competitively.
The combination of poor stats, a shallow movepool, mediocre typing, and a weakness to Stealth Rock means even his best efforts to succeed are usually futile. While he does have a reasonable Special Defense stat, instant recovery in Roost, and Whirlwind to prevent him from being completely useless, it's not nearly enough to make this unfortunate Bug-type a popular choice. If, for some reason, you find yourself tempted to use Dustox, be warned that he will rarely be able to accomplish anything, and there is almost always a better option.</p>

[SET]
name: Toxic Stall
move 1: Toxic
move 2: Roost
move 3: Whirlwind
move 4: Bug Buzz / Protect
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With Dustox's decent Special Defense stat and Roost, he can Toxic stall with some success. Toxic and Roost form the crux of this set, and in tandem with Dustox's respectable Special Defense, allow him to stall out a surprising range of opponents. Whirlwind prevents opposing Pokemon with Substitute from setting up, forcing them out before they get a chance to abuse Substitute. It can also be useful alongside entry hazards to help deal with the Steel- and Poison-types who wall him. In the last slot, Bug Buzz prevents Dustox from being rendered completely useless by Taunt. However, because Dustox's Special Attack stat is so poor, you may wish to opt for Protect or even Substitute to help Dustox stall better. To top it all off, Dustox's ability, Shield Dust, prevents attacks such as Ice Beam from ruining his stall attempt with untimely secondary effects.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Dustox's EVs
should be focused in Special Defense, as that's his only decent stat. Although many of Dustox's resistances are usually physical, they're often complemented by an attack that targets Dustox's weaknesses. However, by shifting some EVs from Special Defense into Defense, Dustox can survive some attacks, such as a Swords Dance-boosted Return or Earthquake from Venusaur, which makes such an EV shift a reasonably good option. Alternatively, you can give Dustox a few Speed EVs to allow him to outspeed some additional Pokemon; this would enable Dustox to Roost off the damage before an opposing Pokemon can KO him.</p>

<p>It is important to note that this set is brutally walled by Steel- and Poison-type Pokemon, as well as RestTalkers, Clefable, and teams with cleric support. In reality, the aforementioned threats can be difficult to deal with due to the fact that most of these types of Pokemon are fairly bulky. However, there are some Pokemon who you can use to mitigate the effectiveness of these Pokemon against Dustox. For example, Dugtrio is a great choice to trap and KO Steel- and Poison-types, while Rhyperior can threaten both of these types of Pokemon and pose a huge threat to the opposing team with his powerful STAB attacks. Rhyperior also happens to work decently against some clerics such as Clefable and Chansey, as they lack the ability to threaten Rhyperior; in return, he can simply use them as set-up bait. Many RestTalkers and clerics aren't too strong offensively, as they're EVs tend to be geared towards their defensive stats, so Pokemon that can take advantage of their poor offenses to set up are decent options.</p>

<p>As this set's goal is to stall out opposing Pokemon with Toxic, entry hazards are immensely helpful in punishing the opponent for switching out. Omastar and Cloyster are superb partners for this job since they're both rather bulky, which allows them to switch in multiple times to set up hazards. Dustox is horribly crippled by status and often takes heavy damage when switching in, so support from Wish users and clerics is also useful. Chansey and Clefable are effective partners, as their weakness to Fighting-type attacks is easily covered by Dustox, and they can provide the aforementioned support that he enjoys.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Because Dustox is weak to Stealth Rock and vulnerable to Spikes, Rapid Spin support is appreciated. Hitmontop and Donphan are superb choices since they each pack ways to deal with common spinblockers. Dustox also enjoys entry hazards of his own to help whittle down the opponent's HP. Omastar and Cloyster are good choices due to their natural bulk, though suicide leads such as Quilfish can be useful as well. In addition to this, Pokemon such as Milotic and Slowbro who can cover Dustox's many weaknesses are appreciated, as are spinblockers, such as Rotom, Spiritomb, and Mismagius, to block any Rapid Spinning attempts.</p>

<p>Offensively, you may wish to use Pokemon who can deal with the foes Dustox is helpless against. Dugtrio is useful to trap and KO Pokemon who are immune to Toxic, and he can also trap and KO weakened clerics and RestTalkers. Teammates with U-turn are also useful, since they can scout the opposing team while racking up additional damage. Uxie and Mesprit are decent choices, as even though they don't get STAB from U-turn, they have useful resistances to some of Dustox's weaknesses and are bulky enough to switch in multiple times throughout the battle.</p>

[Optional Changes]

<p>Dustox's movepool is unfortunately shallow, so he doesn't have too many other options at his disposal. In terms of special attacks, Dustox has Shadow Ball, Energy Ball, and Psychic, each of which hits a different target that Dustox has issues with (Ghost-, Water-, and Poison-types, respectively); Dustox also has Sludge Bomb as an alternative STAB attack. However, Dustox generally prefers Bug Buzz because the STAB boost is important on most foes, and Bug Buzz has better coverage than Sludge Bomb. Additionally, Dustox can utilize Choice Specs alongside the aforementioned attacks to make him decent offensively, though this is not advised since even with the boost, Dustox isn't very powerful. In terms of support, Light Screen and Iron Defense are usable options to buff Dustox's defenses. Dustox could also use Sunny Day in tandem with Moonlight, though compounding Dustox's weakness to Fire-type attacks probably isn't a good idea. Finally, U-turn is a decent scouting move that can be used, though on defensive sets, Whirlwind is better due to its ability to phaze and rack up entry hazard damage.</p>

[Counters]

<p>It really isn't hard to counter a Pokemon as mediocre as Dustox. While he can be a nuisance with entry hazard support due to Whirlwind, this problem is easily alleviated by Rapid Spinners such as Hitmontop, Donphan, and Blastoise. Poison- and Steel-types, RestTalkers, and teams with cleric support are immune to Dustox's main form of damage in Toxic; thus, they shouldn't have any issues dealing with the Poison Moth Pokemon. Pokemon who can prey on Dustox's weaknesses will generally be decent options as well, since even though Dustox is reasonably bulky on the special side, he still can't take on strong super effective special hits, which aren't hard to find due to his mediocre defensive typing. This fact is especially compounded if Stealth Rock is on the field, as by stripping Dustox of 25% of his health each time he switches in, his longevity is severely limited. Finally, any Pokemon with Taunt will completely shut down Dustox, as his pathetic offensive prowess will cause him to do little damage against any common Taunt user (though they should be wary of switching in directly due to Toxic).</p>
 
Perhaps slash in Protect somewhere? I've seen somebody use a similar set in Gen 5, in OU no less, and it preformed fairly well. Non-LO Zapdos' Heat Wave doesn't even 2HKO this thing all the time, LOL.
 
I didn't know it had 50/50 offenses when I used this in Ruby Version...

Since Bug Buzz is so pathetic and Taunt isn't that common anyway, perhaps Protect can be slashed with Bug Buzz to Toxic Stall but do mention that being too predictable with Protect gives free switch-ins.

Also just mention Taunt as a counter, since Bug Buzz hits like a feather.
 

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place special emphasis on the fact that steels and poison types and resttalkers and heal bell/aromatherapy support completely destroy this thing in either set comments or additional comments since that's kind of important

QC APPROVED 2/2

seriously this thing is just incredibad
 

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Alright, this should be ready for GP checks. This is shorter than most of my analysis's, but because Dustox is so straightforward, there's not much to write about.
 

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[Overview]

<p>Unfortunately for Dustox, it's hard to deny that he's simply a terrible Pokemon to use competitively. The combination of poor stats, a shallow movepool, a mediocre typing, and a weakness to Stealth Rock means even his best efforts are usually futile. While he does have a reasonable Special Defense stat, instant recovery in Roost, and Whirlwind to prevent him from being completely useless, and in some situations, can make him half-decent, it's not nearly enough to make this unfortunate Bug-type a popular choice. If you, for some reason, you find yourself tempted to use Dustox, just be warned that he will rarely be able to accomplish anything, and there is almost always a better option.</p>


[SET]
name: Toxic Stall
move 1: Toxic
move 2: Roost
move 3: Whirlwind
move 4: Bug Buzz / Protect
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With Dustox's decent Special Defense stat and Roost, he can Toxic stall with some success. In addition to this, since Dustox's movepool is so small, this is the most useful thing that he can do. However, even then, this set is stopped cold by Steel-and Poison-types, RestTalkers, and cleric support, which means that Dustox will be hard-pressed to do much against many teams without plenty of support.</p>

(I would combine these two paragraphs and move most of the above info to OC/AC.)

<p>
Toxic and Roost form the crux of this set, and in tandem with Dustox's respectable Special Defense, allow him to stall out a surprising range of opponents. Whirlwind, despite seeming counter-productive alongside the two aforementioned moves, is important to this set's success as well. This is because Whirlwind single-handedly stops opposing Pokemon with Substitute from coming in, setting up a Substitute, and proceeding to maul Dustox and his team with their attacks. It also can be useful alongside entry hazards to help deal with the Steel- and Poison-types whowall him. To top the cake, Dustox's ability, Shield Dust, prevents attacks such as Ice Beam from ruining his stall with their lethal secondary effects. (move this to the end, it feels out of place here) In the last slot, Bug Buzz prevents Dustox from being rendered completely useless by Taunt. However, because Dustox's Special Attack is so weak, you may wish to opt for Protect, or even Substitute to help Dustox stall better, though Protect is a tad predictable, and Substitute should mainly be used if you feel unconfident about your prediction skills. To top it all off, Dustox's ability, Shield Dust, prevents attacks such as Ice Beam from ruining his stall with untimely secondary effects.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Dustox's EVs should be focused in Special Defense stat, as that's his only decent stat. Although many of Dustox's resistances are usually physical, they're often complemented(spelling) by an attack that targets Dustox's weaknesses, which is also why Dustox should focus on his Special Defense. However, by shifting some EVs from Special Defense into Defense, Dustox can survive some attacks such as a Swords Dance boosted Return or Earthquake from Venusaur, which makes this a reasonable option. Alternatively, you can give Dustox some Speed EVs to allow him to outspeed some additional Pokemon to Roost off the damage before they can KO him.</p>

(This would be a good place to talk about the Steels, Poisons, RestTalkers, and Clerics who beat Dustox, and how your team should handle them.)

<p>As this set's goal is to stall out opposing Pokemon with Toxic, entry hazards are immensely helpful in punishing the opponent for switching out. Omastar and Cloyster are superb partners for this job, (comma) since they're both rather bulky, which allows them to switch in multiple times to set up hazards. Dustox is horribly crippled by status and has often takes heavy damage when switching in, so Wish and cleric support are also useful, as Dustox enjoys Wish support to switch back in multiple times, and is horribly crippled when he's burned or paralyzed. Chansey and Clefable are effective partners, as their weakness to Fighting-type attacks is easily covered by Dustox, and they can provide the aforementioned support that he enjoys.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Because Dustox is weak to Stealth Rock, (comma) and vulnerable to Spikes, Rapid Spin support is appreciated. Hitmontop and Donphan are superb choices, since they have ways to deal with common spinblockers. Dustox also enjoys entry hazards of his own to help whittle down the opponent's HP. Omastar and Cloyster are good choices due to their natural bulk, though suicide leads such as Quilfish can be useful as well. In addition to this, Pokemon such as Milotic who can cover Dustox's many weaknesses are appreciated, as are spinblockers to block any Rapid Spinning attempts. (might want to elaborate on this last sentence a bit. Milotic isn't the only Pokemon who covers some of Dustox's weaknesses)</p>

<p>Offensively, you may wish to use Pokemon who can deal with the foes Dustox is helpless against. Dugtrio is useful to trap and KO Pokemon who are immune to Toxic, and he can also trap and KO weakened clerics and RestTalkers. Pokemon with U-turn can also be useful, since they can scout the opposing team while racking up some additional damage. Uxie and Mesprit are decent choices, as even though they don't get STAB from U-turn, they have useful resistances to some of Dustox's weaknesses, (comma) and are bulky enough to keep switching in.</p>

[Optional Changes]

<p>Dustox's movepool is unfortunately shallow, so he doesn't have too many other options at his disposal. In terms of special attacking options, Dustox has Shadow Ball, Energy Ball, and Psychic, each of which hits a different target that Dustox has issues with (Ghost-, Water-, and Poison-types respectively), and Sludge Bomb as an alternative STAB attack. However, Dustox generally prefers Bug Buzz because the STAB boost is important on most foes, and Bug Buzz has better coverage than Sludge Bomb, which Dustox needs to do damage. He can also use a Choice Specs alongside these attacks to make him decent offensively, though this is not advised since even with the boost Dustox isn't very strong. In terms of support, Light Screen and Iron Defense are usable options to buff Dustox's defenses. Dustox could also use Sunny Day, with Moonlight to benefit from it, though compounding Dustox's weakness to Fire-type attacks probably isn't a good idea. Finally, U-turn is a decent scouting move that can be used, though on defensive sets, Whirlwind is better due to its ability to phaze and rack up entry hazard damage.</p>

[Counters]

<p>Being as mediocre as Dustox is, It really isn't hard to counter a Pokemon as mediocre as Dustox. While he can be a nuisance with entry hazard support due to Whirlwind, this problem is easily alleviated by Rapid Spinners such as Hitmontop, Donphan, and Blastoise. Poison- and Steel-types, RestTalkers, and teams with cleric support are immune to Dustox's main form of damage in Toxic; thus, they shouldn't have many issues with Dustox. Pokemon who can prey on Dustox's weaknesses will generally be decent options as well, since even though Dustox is reasonably bulky specially, he still can't take on strong super effective special hits, which aren't hard to find due to his mediocre typing. This fact is especially compounded if Stealth Rock is on the field, as by stripping Dustox of 25% of his health on each switch in, his longevity is severely limited. Finally, any Pokemon with Taunt will completely shut down Dustox, as his pathetic offensive prowess will cause him to do little damage against Pokemon with Taunt (though they should be wary of switching in directly due to Toxic).</p>
 

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[Overview]

<p>Unfortunately for Dustox, it's hard to deny that he's simply a terrible Pokemon to use competitively. The combination of poor stats, a shallow movepool, mediocre typing, and a weakness to Stealth Rock means even his best efforts to succeed are usually futile. While he does have a reasonable Special Defense stat, instant recovery in Roost, and Whirlwind to prevent him from being completely useless, it's not nearly enough to make this unfortunate Bug-type a popular choice. If, for some reason, you find yourself tempted to use Dustox, be warned that he will rarely be able to accomplish anything, and there is almost always a better option.</p>

[SET]
name: Toxic Stall
move 1: Toxic
move 2: Roost
move 3: Whirlwind
move 4: Bug Buzz / Protect
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With Dustox's decent Special Defense stat and Roost, he can Toxic stall with some success. Toxic and Roost form the crux of this set, and in tandem with Dustox's respectable Special Defense, allow him to stall out a surprising range of opponents. Whirlwind stops prevents opposing Pokemon with Substitute from setting up, forcing them out before they get a chance to abuse Substitute. and proceeding to maul Dustox and his team with their attacks. It also can be useful alongside entry hazards to help deal with the Steel- and Poison-types who wall him. In the last slot, Bug Buzz prevents Dustox from being rendered completely useless by Taunt. However, because Dustox's Special Attack stat is so weak poor, you may wish to opt for Protect or even Substitute to help Dustox stall better. To top it all off, Dustox's ability, Shield Dust, prevents attacks such as Ice Beam from ruining his stall attempt with untimely secondary effects.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Dustox's EVs should be focused in Special Defense, as that's his only decent stat. Although many of Dustox's resistances are usually physical, they're often complemented by an attack that targets Dustox's weaknesses. However, by shifting some EVs from Special Defense into Defense, Dustox can survive some attacks, such as a Swords Dance-boosted Return or Earthquake from Venusaur, which makes this a reasonable such an EV shift a reasonably good option. Alternatively, you can give Dustox some a few Speed EVs to allow him to outspeed some additional Pokemon; this enables Dustox to Roost off the damage before they an opposing Pokemon can KO him.</p>

<p>It is important to note that this set gets is brutally walled by Steel- and Poison-type Pokemon, as well as RestTalkers and teams with cleric support. In reality, these the aforementioned threats can be difficult to deal with due to the fact that most of these types of Pokemon are fairly bulky. However, there are some Pokemon who you can use to mitigate the effectiveness of these Pokemon against Dustox. For example, Dugtrio is a great choice to trap and KO Steel- and Poison-types, while Rhyperior can threaten both of these types of Pokemon and pose a huge threat to the opposing team with his tremendous powerful STAB attacks. Rhyperior also happens to work decently against some clerics, such as Clefable and Chansey, as they lack the ability to threaten Rhyperior, and Rhyperior; in return, he can simply use them as set-up bait. Many RestTalkers and Clerics clerics aren't that too strong offensively, as they are EV'd mainly in their EVs tend to be geared towards their defensive stats, so Pokemon that can take advantage of their weak poor offenses to set up are decent options.</p>

<p>As this set's goal is to stall out opposing Pokemon with Toxic, entry hazards are immensely helpful in punishing the opponent for switching out. Omastar and Cloyster are superb partners for this job since they're both rather bulky, which allows them to switch in multiple times to set up hazards. Dustox is horribly crippled by status and has often takes heavy damage when switching in, so support from Wish users and clerics support are is also useful. Chansey and Clefable are effective partners, as their weakness to Fighting-type attacks is easily covered by Dustox, and they can provide the aforementioned support that he enjoys.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Because Dustox is weak to Stealth Rock and vulnerable to Spikes, Rapid Spin support is appreciated. Hitmontop and Donphan are superb choices, choices since they have each pack ways to deal with common spinblockers. Dustox also enjoys entry hazards of his own to help whittle down the opponent's HP. Omastar and Cloyster are good choices due to their natural bulk, though suicide leads such as Quilfish can be useful as well. In addition to this, Pokemon such as Milotic and Slowbro who can cover Dustox's many weaknesses are appreciated, as are spinblockers, such as Rotom, Spiritomb, and Mismagius, to block any Rapid Spinning attempts.</p>

<p>Offensively, you may wish to use Pokemon who can deal with the foes Dustox is helpless against. Dugtrio is useful to trap and KO Pokemon who are immune to Toxic, and he can also trap and KO weakened clerics and RestTalkers. Pokemon Teammates with U-turn can are also be useful, useful since they can scout the opposing team while racking up some additional damage. Uxie and Mesprit are decent choices, as even though they don't get STAB from U-turn, they have useful resistances to some of Dustox's weaknesses and are bulky enough to keep switching in switch in multiple times throughout the battle.</p>

[Optional Changes]

<p>Dustox's movepool is unfortunately shallow, so he doesn't have too many other options at his disposal. In terms of special attacking options attacks, Dustox has Shadow Ball, Energy Ball, and Psychic, each of which hits a different target that Dustox has issues with (Ghost-, Water-, and Poison-types, respectively), and respectively); Dustox also has Sludge Bomb as an alternative STAB attack. However, Dustox generally prefers Bug Buzz because the STAB boost is important on most foes, and Bug Buzz has better coverage than Sludge Bomb. He can also use Additionally, Dustox can utilize Choice Specs alongside these the aforementioned attacks to make him decent offensively, though this is not advised since even with the boost, Dustox isn't very strong powerful. In terms of support, Light Screen and Iron Defense are usable options to buff Dustox's defenses. Dustox could also use Sunny Day, with Moonlight to benefit from it Day in tandem with Moonlight, though compounding Dustox's weakness to Fire-type attacks probably isn't a good idea. Finally, U-turn is a decent scouting move that can be used, though on defensive sets, Whirlwind is better due to its ability to phaze and rack up entry hazard damage.</p>

[Counters]

<p>It really isn't hard to counter a Pokemon as mediocre as Dustox. While he can be a nuisance with entry hazard support due to Whirlwind, this problem is easily alleviated by Rapid Spinners such as Hitmontop, Donphan, and Blastoise. Poison- and Steel-types, RestTalkers, and teams with cleric support are immune to Dustox's main form of damage in Toxic; thus, they shouldn't have many issues with Dustox any problems dealing with the Poison Moth Pokemon. Pokemon who can prey on Dustox's weaknesses will generally be decent options as well, since even though Dustox is reasonably bulky specially on the special side, he still can't take on strong super effective special hits, which aren't hard to find due to his mediocre defensive typing. This fact is especially compounded if Stealth Rock is on the field, as by stripping Dustox of 25% of his health on each each time he switches in, his longevity is severely limited. Finally, any Pokemon with Taunt will completely shut down Dustox, as his pathetic offensive prowess will cause him to do little damage against Pokemon with Taunt any common Taunt user (though they should be wary of switching in directly due to Toxic).</p>


wow...dustox is pretty terribad

uhhh so you might want to implement my changes manually, as there were a few instances throughout the analysis where you would be missing a space between words or whatever due to issues in copying honko's check. nice work on this, though~

 

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