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Elekid (Analysis)

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by Sledge, Oct 3, 2010.

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  1. Sledge

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    [Overview]
    • gets a good addition in Volt Change
    • otherwise pretty much the same
    [SET]
    name: PhysicalKid
    move 1: ThunderPunch
    move 2: Ice Punch
    move 3: Cross Chop / Low Kick / Brick Break
    move 4: Quick Attack
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Static
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 236 Spe

    Set comments:
    • exactly the same as gen 4
    • will still likely be the most used set
    • however, may lose a bit of effectiveness with faster Pokemon with Sneasel and Scyther getting unbanned
    • berry juice will also make it tougher for it to score KOs
    Additional Comments:
    • not much else to say but Fire Punch can be used over Ice Punch
    [SET]
    name: ScarfKid
    move 1: Thunderbolt
    move 2: Volt Change
    move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass
    move 4: Psychic
    item: Choice Scarf
    ability: Static
    nature: Timid / Modest
    evs: 236 SpA / 236 Spe

    Set Comments:
    • takes advantage of Elekid's new move Volt Change
    • Thunderbolt is a strong STAB
    • Volt Change is a blessing for any choice user and elekid is no exception
    • Hidden Powers get coverage on things the electric attacks cant hit, like gligar
    • Psychic is mainly just a filler since elekid's special movepool is very shallow
    Additional Comments:
    • Timid is probably the better option to outspeed as much as possible, but modest give its moves more power in general
    • HP grass doesnt provide much coverage over HP ice, other than Chinchou
    [SET]
    name: MixKid
    move 1: Thunderbolt
    move 2: Ice Punch
    move 3: Cross Chop / Low Kick
    move 4: Volt Change / Hidden Power Grass
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Static
    nature: Hasty / Naive
    evs: 92 Atk / 160 SpA / 240 Spe

    Set Comments:
    • Almost exactly the same as gen 4, but with volt change
    Additional Comments:
    • could run a more special offensive or physically offensive spread
    • can take off 4 evs in SpA and Spe if not running HP grass
    Counters:
    • Bronzor counters PhysicalKid
    • Tangela
    • Hippopotas counters physicalkid
    • scarf set is easily predicted around
  2. TheFemaleTyrouge

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    It would be smart to remove Low Kick from the sets, put BB into the MixKid. LC is a game where Pokemon are well, little. Weight moves like Low Kick get lower BP than BB on average. You could put it into OC and mention how it is useful for Taking out Munchlax but other than that, it seems outclassed.
  3. comatthew6

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    tangela's banned - remove it from counters. Gligar beats mixkid if it has evo since elekid doesn't have great attack IIRC
  4. TheFemaleTyrouge

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    Kinda continueing comatthew gligar will wall it. How about this for the MixKid:

    name: MixKid
    move 1: Thunderbolt
    move 2: Fire Punch
    move 3: Cross Chop / Brick Break
    move 4: Volt Change / Hidden Power Ice
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Static
    nature: Hasty / Naive

    Tbolt covers water types making little use of hp grass, fire let's you hit grass and steel types (notably Ferroseed) for some damage while Gligars spD isn't as high so HP ice will hit harder.
  5. Darkamber8828

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    HP Ice still doesn't let you kill Evo-stone Gligar reliably, though. Only 4/9 of the time with SR. And then you can't run HP Grass for Chinchy.

    And we all know how reliable Cross Chop is.

    Especially for something that needs two or three hits to die.
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    Guys you realize he's on vacation or something and can't update this for a while--right?
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    This hasn't been worked on in a while. Sledge is also on a Leave of Absence for a couple of months, so it's likely that this will see no further updates. Aerrow's contacted Heysup and the following conclusion was made: Sledge's threads should be moved so others can have a chance to work on them. As such, I'm moving this analysis, along with his other reserved ones, to L&O.
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