Exeggutor [QC 1/3]

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Overview
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  • Typing allows it to Check many threats in the Metagame (i.e. Seismitoad and Claydol)
  • Good Special Attacking Stat which allows it to blow through most of the tier
  • It has a wide array of versatility in running either a defensive set with harvest to stall out threats, or go offensive with Chlorophyll and run through unprepared teams
  • Very low Speed and Special Defense Stats, however on Sun Teams, this problem can be slightly remedied with its high speed in the sun
  • Typing is a double edge sword, with 7 Weaknesses - Including an unfortunate weakness to Knock Off
    • The rise of Offensive fire types like Typhlosion and Mega Camerupt greatly hurt its defensive and offensive capabilities
Offensive
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name: Offensive
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Psychic / Psyshock
move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Sleep Powder
ability: Chlorophyll
item: Choice Specs / Life Orb
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Modest

Moves
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  • Leaf Storm deals massive damage backed up by the Modest Nature and Choice Specs.
  • Giga Drain offers recovery, while still being able to damage.
  • The third slot if for Psychic STAB, where Psychic has a higher base power and hits Bulk Up users like Gurdurr after they boost, but Psyshock can be used to OHKO Hariyama which can usually take a Psychic with the Assault Vest
  • Hidden Power Fire allows it to hit steel types as well as grass types, while Sleep Powder can be used for Team Support, allowing it to switch out pretty much freely.
  • Alternatively, it can use Ancientpower to lure in Physically Defensive Xatu, and kill it with Stealth Rocks up
Set Details
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  • 252 Special Attack EVs along with a Modest Nature allows it to act like a Nuke
  • 252 Speed allows it to out speed uninvested Base 86s and below, this includes pokemon like Seismitoad, all of which Exeggutor has an easy time dealing with
  • A timid nature allows it to outspend uninvested base 95s, specifically Xatu, but it can not do much to it anyway, so Modest is the preferred nature
  • Choice Specs is the other way it boosts its Special Attack to high levels
  • A Life Orb can be used if you want the power to switch up moves, and ease prediction, but the damage output is noticeable.
  • Chlorophyll is useful for out speeding, or speed tieing, with other sun sweepers while the sun is up .
Usage Tips
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  • Since it does not have that much bulk, it is much better to bring in Exeggutor on a resisted hit, or pokemon that have no way of hurting it like Seismitoad or Claydol
  • It can also be brought in on locked in moves, like a specs Rotom Thunderbolt, or Extrasensory from Typhlosion
  • Choosing the right move with specs is important, as when locked into a move, it becomes very easy to play around. For example, locking itself into Psychic or Psyshock allows dark types like Liepard or Sneasal to easily come in and pursuit trap it, so realizing that those pokemon are there are key when choosing a move.
  • Also good to keep around for certain set up sweepers, as it can just put them to sleep with Sleep Powder, in order for it to be killed by other pokemon, or Exeggutor itself. This includes certain pokemon like Assault Vest Malmar, which can usually come in on any of its moves and start setting up. But it is key to remember to only use Sleep Powder on the switch, and not stay in after using it, as it can let opposing grass type pokemon set up easily, like Lilligant or Virizion.

Team Options
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  • This set generally works better on Offensively based teams with U-Turn or Volt Switch users, as it can then be brought in safely. This includes pokemon like Scyther and Arceops. Probopass is another option because it can bring it in undamaged with a slower volt switch.
  • It also appreciates hazard control like Magic Bounce or Defog, as it can be easily worn down by them, making its less than average bulk even worse. Pokemon like Xatu or Pelipper work well with it because it can take some of the hits directed at them, and they both have U-Turn to bring it in safely.
  • It also would appreciate partners that can take a few hits from Fire and Dark type pokemon, as it is easily threatened out by these. This includes pokemon like Hariyama, which can take Fire and Dark type hits with an Assault Vest and Thick Fat.
  • Stealth Rock and Spike support is almost necessary for it to assure any kills, and for that reason Hazard Setters like Archeops (which can bring it in with U-Turn and Defog) pairs up well with it. This helps to assure kills on bulkier pokemon that easily switch in, like Musharna and Kecleon, which are both OHKOd after a round or two of Stealth Rock damage
Lum Rest
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name: Lum Rest
move 1: Giga Drain
move 2: Psyshock / Psychic
move 3: Sleep Powder
move 4: Rest
ability: Harvest
item: Lum Berry
evs: 248 HP / 172 SpA / 88 Spe
nature: Modest

Moves
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  • Giga Drain is a great STAB, allowing it to recover HP while attacking.
  • Psychic is a good secondary STAB, allowing Executor to hit fighting types like Sawk and Gurdurr. Psyshock can be used to hit more Specially Bulky pokemon, dealing much more damage to pokemon like Hariyama.
  • Sleep Powder is amazing utility, allowing Exeggutor to put something to sleep, giving Free Turns to switch out, rest, or attack.
  • Rest is the main move of the set, allowing it to recover to full health, and Harvest bringing back the Lum Berry to let it wake up immediately.
Set Details
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  • 248 to be as bulky as possible, allowing it to take attacks.
  • 88 Speed in order to let it outspend base 65’s and lower, including Seismitoad
  • The rest is kept into Special Attack with a Modest Nature, allowing it to deal as much as possible with its Dual STABs.
  • Harvest + Lum Berry is there for it to recover from status easily, and being able to harvest back the berry.
Usage Tips
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  • Can be brought in easily against electric types, as well as Fighting Types lacking Knock Off
  • It works well as a Status Absorber, as the Lum Berry just heals off whatever is thrown at it, but this forces it to wait for Harvest before Resting again
  • Should not also be used that recklessly, as it still has only decent bulk, and does not takes certain hits that well with its typing. This includes moves like U-Turn, Knock Off, or Ice Beam, all of which can almost always kill it.

Team Options
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  • It is helpful on most teams that are weak to common attacking types like Fighting and Electric, as it can easily come in and take the hit with its decent bulk. Pokemon that appreciate this are usually pokemon like Samurott and Pawniard, even though it shares a Fire weakness with it. Though when switching in to Fighting Types, it has to be aware of the common Knock Off
  • It is more useful on balance or stall, as it is a complete momentum killer, with its low speed and no real way for it to switch out.
  • It also appreciates a Knock Off absorber, as it takes super effective damage, and can not Harvest back the Lum Berry to bring back its health.This would usually be a Mega Pokemon, like Audino or Camerupt.
  • It also appreciates hazard control, as it can be easily worn down by them and limiting its switch ins. Pokemon like Xatu or Pelipper work well with it, as Exeggutor can take most of the Super Effective hits aimed at them like Thunderbolt or Stone Edge.
Chlorophyll Sweeper
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name: Chlorophyll Sweeper
move 1: Solarbeam
move 2: Psychic / Psyshock
move 3: Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Sunny Day / Sleep Powder
ability: Chlorophyll
item: Life Orb
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
nature: Modest / Timid

Moves
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  • Solarbeam is an extremely high powered move, and in the Sun it has no recharge time, and is easily spamable
  • Psychic is a good secondary STAB, allowing Executor to hit fighting types like Sawk and Gurdurr. Psyshock can be used to hit more Specially Bulky pokemon, dealing much more damage to pokemon like Hariyama.
  • Hidden Power Fire helps Exeggutor hit Steel Types super effectively, as well as become higher powered when used in the Sun, allowing it to hit pokemon like Ferroseed or Klinklang for high amounts of damage
  • The fourth slot is for support, and Sunny Day can be used to set up sun for it to sweep, or as a last ditch effort to help a team mate sweep. Sleep Powder can also be used, as it can put some of its Checks to sleep as they switch in, letting it handle them easier. This includes pokemon like AV Malamar, which can switch into most of the moves that Exeggutor can throw out.
Set Details
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  • Chlorophyll is what makes the set so deadly, as it gives it +2 Speed while in the Sun, allowing it to outpace +1 Neutral base 89s, like Vivilon, with a Modest Nature. If it chooses to go Timid however, it can outspeed positive base 52s at +2, such as Gorebyss and Huntail, and being able to OHKO them with Solarbeam and preventing a Baton Pass or Ice Beam.
  • Max Special Attack is to increase damage output, and hit as hard as possible while under the sun
  • Life Orb is the preferred item, as it does not lock Exeggutor into any specific moves, and it increases damage output. Heat Rock can also be used to get more turns under the Sun, but generally it will not be staying in for more than 5 turns anyway.
Usage Tips
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  • Even though it does not have that great bulk uninvested, it can still switch in on certain pokemon like Seismitoad and Rhydon, and then KO them, or set up the Sun while they switch something in
  • It should also try to only stay in when the Sun is up, as without it is very frail, and will die to most Super Effective Hits.
Team Options
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  • Since it is meant to sweep under the sun, Sun Setters are mandatory. One of the better Defensive ones is Uxie, which can set up Stealth Rock, and then Memento out bringing in a Sun Sweeper safely. Regirock preformers a simliar role, except it uses Explosion to quickly damage a pokemon, and then bring in a sweeper. Also prankster pokemon like Liepard or Volbeat are useful, as they can set up priority sun, and spreading status like Paralyzation
  • Also other pokemon that can take advantage of the sun help it, and that includes pokemon like Typholosion that can deal huge amounts of damage with Sun Boosted Eruptions.
  • Also pokemon that can easily beat members of a Rain Teams help, as they cause a head ache for Exeggutor and other Sun abusers, by powering down Fire Type moves, and makes Solarbeam into a charge up move. Pokemon that help with this includes Archeops, Scyther, and Swellow, all of which can threaten the opposing Grass type pokemon that are usually seen on Sun Teams

Other Options
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  • With its decent defensive typing, it can utilize a set with Leech Seed and Substitute, with the Sitrus Berry for recovery, that can effectively stall out opposing pokemon.
  • Berries such as the Kee or Starf Berry can be used in order to boost its stats, but in doing this it loses out on its main form of recovery in LumRest or Sitrus, and has to use Synthesis. Another useful berry to consider is the Colbur Berry, as it is the only berry that is not lost with Knock Off, and allows it to check fighting types more reliably.
  • Meadow Plate can be used to bluff Specs Damage, and can easily bait in and kill pokemon like Hariyama
  • Exeggutor can run a Swords Dance set, with its decent Attack stat. With moves such like Low Kick and Rock Slide, it can effectively lure in and remove some of the Checks and Counters to the Special set, like Xatu or Sneasel.
Checks & Counters
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**Grass Types**: Most grass types like Liligant or Ludicolo can switch in on Giga Drain or Sleep Powder, and proceed to attack or set up on it. They only really fear the HP Fire on the specs set. They best way to handle most of these pokemon is with U-Turn users or Ice Type moves. Since they can come in pretty easily, by predicting it and switching out into pokemon like Scyther, it is very easy to click U-Turn or Aerial Ace, and either kill them, or bring in a pokemon to handle whatver they swith into.

**Bug Types**: Especially pokemon like Scyther that can U-Turn out of Exeggutor and deal 4x Super Effective damage, almost always KOing it. They also resist the main STAB in Leaf Storm or Giga Drain, and fear the Hidden Power Fire or Ancientpower. Most bulky rock or ground type can take care of pokemon like this, and that includes pokemon like Camperupt, which can also enjoy the sun boost, or Rhydon which can also handle the flying types that plague Exeggutor.

**U-Turn**: With its 4x weakness to Bug, U-Turn coming from almost any pokemon will be hard for Exeggutor to deal with. It usually has the power, even from pokemon that do not have STAB on it, to either kill it, or bring it down low enough so other pokemon can switch in an kill it.

**Xatu**: Xatu can pretty much come in on any move that Exeggutor has to to off, either than a stray Ancientpower, and either Heat Wave, Roost, or U-Turn out, crippling Exeggutor if not killing it. In order to kill Xatu, most Pursuit Users like Liepard or Sneasal can come in easily on a Psychic type move or a Roost, and then proceed to Pursuit or Knock Off, either knocking out Xatu, or bringing it down to the point where it can no longer switch in on Exeggutor.

**Knock Off**: As it shares an unfortunate weakness to Dark Type moves, Knock Off will always be hitting it Super Effectively. It also removes the Berry from the Harvest set, and does not let it be harvested back. The best way that Exeggutor can hope to handle it by itself is by holding the Colbur Berry, which is the only one that is harvested back.
 
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Change Choice Specs to Offensive and slash Life Orb with Choice Specs. I think some people were using Timid as well, but I'm not sure what for exactly.

You can mention Solar Beam in moves for Offensive for sun teams. Mention that Psyshock gets an OHKO on Hariyama, while Psychic misses out most of the time (depends on the spread--never kills 252 SpD, kills about 50% of the time vs 128 SpD, and Life Orb never kills vs either spread).

Xatu in Checks and Counters. Shits on LumRest and can take any one hit vs. Specs and then Roost up, 2HKO with Heat Wave, or do about 50% with U-turn.
 

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Make offensive the first set, it's by far the best.
Usage tips needs quite a bit of expansion on both sets.
Definitely needed to add more Usage Tips, and they should be fine now, with maybe a bit more.
Right now, I think that LumRest is just a bit better, being able to handle threats like Heliolisk and Virizion, as well as lesser used pokemon like Klinklang. With Sleep Powder it acts as a soft check to many other things, and right now it is just slightly better, imo.
Offensive is still really good though, and may even be the best, and if other people agree with you will definitely change it.
 
I'd probably mention that with psychic you can break through bulk up users, aka gurdurr even though it's not super common. Maybe put sludge bomb in oo/sd of offensive because it hits a lot of the stuff that hp fire hits super effectively, for pretty good damage (plus a lot more if its super effective) and for things that aren't poison type. The high poison chance can cripple some of its counters, mainly xatu. Also mention starf berry cause it is amazing :pimp:
 

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Oh btw, small thing I noticed - replace HP Rock with Ancientpower because the slight chance to get the boosts can be handy and you can run fire and rock coverage I guess.
 

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Defensive Sets have to rely on Harvest for Reliable Recovery
This is false, as Exeggutor has access to Synthesis.

Using Sunny Day, Solarbeam, Giga Drain, and Psyshock, Exeggutor can run an effective Sun set outspeeding most of its checks and counters in the sun
This can probably just be merged in the Set Details of the Offensive set, instead of OO.

Alternatively, it can use Hidden Power Rock or Ancientpower to lure in Physically Defensive Xatu, and kill it with Stealth Rocks up
Offensive is probably better than LumRest right now; no other Grass-type in NU boasts its nuking ability.

The LumRest set wants Psyshock right now, as it OHKOes Virizion (and 0 Def Hariyamas) while Psychic does not. Psychic can still be slashed after Psyshock as it hits the likes of Gourgeist and Weezing for much more damage.

Colbur can see a mention in OO, as it is the only Berry that does not disappear permanently after Knock Off. This can turn Eggy into a very effective and interesting Fighting-type sponge with decent offensive presence, and can keep itself healthy with Synthesis. However, the downside would be that Exeggutor would have to be defensively invested if it wants to take Knock Offs repeatedly, which in turn reduces its offensive presence pretty substantially.
 

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Remove mentions of Solarbeam and Sunny Day in the Offensive Set. Sunny Day Exeggutor deserves its own set, make it third behind LumRest I guess.

Chlorophyll Sweeper
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name: Chlorophyll Sweeper
move 1: Solarbeam
move 2: Psychic / Psyshock
move 3: Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Sunny Day / Sleep Powder
ability: Chlorophyll
item: Life Orb
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
nature: Modest

Other comments are here in BOLD. Let me know when you've updated and I'll give you 1/3.
Overview
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  • Typing allows it to Check many threats in the Metagame (i.e. Virizion and Heliolisk) i think we're just removing helio mentions at this point, change to something like quagsire and claydol.
  • Good Special Attacking Stat
  • Good Abilities in Harvest and Chlorophyll
  • Very low Speed and Special Defense Stats mention this can be remedied slightly on sun teams with chlorophyll
  • Typing is a double edge sword, with 7 Weaknesses - Including an unfortunate weakness to Knock Off
Offensive
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name: Offensive
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Psychic / Psyshock
move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Sleep Powder
ability: Chlorophyll
item: Choice Specs / Life Orb
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Modest

Moves
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  • Leaf Storm deals massive damage backed up by the Modest Nature and Choice Specs.
  • If it is being used on a Sun Team, Solarbeam can be used over Leaf Storm, as the damage output is nearly the same, and it does not lower the special attack
  • Giga Drain offers recovery, while still being able to damage.
  • The third slot if for Psychic STAB, where Psychic has a higher base power and hits Bulk Up users like Gurdurr after they boost, but Psyshock can be used to OHKO Hariyama which can usually take a Psychic with the Assault Vest
  • Hidden Power Fire allows it to hit steel types as well as grass types, while Sleep Powder can be used for Team Support, allowing it to switch out pretty much freely.
  • Alternatively, it can use Ancientpower to lure in Physically Defensive Xatu, and kill it with Stealth Rocks up
  • It can also use Solarbeam over Leaf Storm and act as a Sun Sweeper, with Sunny Day replacing Sleep Powder, or having a supporting Sun Setter
Set Details
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  • 252 Special Attack EVs along with a Modest Nature allows it to act like a Nuke
  • 252 Speed allows it to out speed invested Base 86s and below give important examples like seismitoad qwilfish etc. i also think you mean UNinvested.
  • A timid nature allows it to outspend uninvested base 95s, specifically Xatu, but it can not do much to it anyway, so Modest is the preferred nature
  • Choice Specs is the other way it boosts its Special Attack to high levels
  • A Life Orb can be used if you want the power to switch up moves, and ease prediction, but the damage output is noticeable.
  • Harvest is useless here, as there is no berry, and in the instance you run into a Sun team, it allows it to out speed other pokemon. just mention how chlorophyll can be helpful against opposing sun, dont mention harvest
Usage Tips
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  • Since it has terrible bulk, it works much better as a Revenge Killer 95/85/65 isnt exactly terrible i guess. i wouldnt associate exeggutor as a revenge killer because its slow. maybe change that to say come in on stuff that cant touch you instead.
  • It can also be brought in on locked in moves, like a specs Rotom Thunderbolt, or Extrasensory from Typhlosion
  • Choosing the right move with specs is important, as when locked into a move, it becomes very easy to play around mention type immunites here such as bouffalant and dark types
  • Also good to keep around for certain set up sweepers, as it can just put them to sleep with Sleep Powder, in order for it to be killed by other pokemon, or Exeggutor itself examples?

Team Options
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  • This set generally works better on Offensively based teams with U-Turn or Volt Switch users, as it can then be brought in safely. This includes pokemon like Scyther or Heliolisk. mention slower volt switchers like probopass too, that way exeggutor doesnt ahve to take the hit
  • It also appreciates a good Defog or Rapid spin user, as it can be easily worn down by hazards, making its low bulk even worse. Pokemon like Xatu or Pelipper work well with it because it can take some of the hits directed at them, and they both have U-Turn to bring it in safely. you mention RS but no users, add magic bounce to the sentence if you're going to talk about xatu.
  • It also would appreciate partners that can take a few hits from Fire and Dark type pokemon, as it is easily threatened out by these. This includes pokemon like Hariyama, which can take Fire and Dark type hits with an Assault Vest and Thick Fat.
  • Stealth Rock and Spike support is almost necessary for it to assure any kills, and for that reason Hazard Setters like Archeops (which can bring it in with U-Turn and Defog) or Steelix pair up well with it. does it help with any specific kills?
Lum Rest
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name: Lum Rest
move 1: Giga Drain
move 2: Psyshock / Psychic
move 3: Sleep Powder
move 4: Rest
ability: Harvest
item: Lum Berry
evs: 248 HP / 172 SpA / 88 Spe
nature: Modest

Moves you need to mention psyshock if you have it slashed
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  • Giga Drain is a great STAB, allowing it to recover HP while attacking.
  • Psychic is a good secondary STAB, allowing Executor to hit fighting types like Virizion and Hariyama.
  • Sleep Powder is amazing utility, allowing Exeggutor to put something to sleep, giving Free Turns to switch out, rest, or attack.
  • Rest is the main move of the set, allowing it to recover to full health, and Harvest bringing back the Lum Berry to let it wake up immediately.
Set Details
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  • 248 to be as bulky as possible, allowing it to take attacks.
  • 88 Speed in order to let it outspend base 65’s and lower, including Seismitoad and Max Speed Mega Steelix.
  • The rest is kept into Special Attack with a Modest Nature, allowing it to deal as much as possible with its Dual STABs.
  • Harvest + Lum Berry is there for it to recover from status easily, and being able to harvest back the berry.
Usage Tips
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  • Can be brought in easily against electric types, as well as Fighting Types lacking Knock Off
  • It works well as a Status Absorber, as the Lum Berry just heals off whatever is thrown at it mention you have to harvest before you can rest in that case
  • Should not also be used that recklessly, as it still has only decent bulk, and does not takes hits as well as possible mention hits it shouldnt be taking and hits it should

Team Options mention defog rapid spin here as well, defensive builds actually appreciate hazard removal more.
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  • It is helpful on most teams that are weak to common attacking types like Fighting and Electric, as it can easily come in and take the hit with its decent bulk. Pokemon that appreciate this are usually Feraligatr and Steelix. steelix shares a fire weakness and mention you have to be wary of knock off.
  • It is more useful on balance or stall, as it is a complete momentum killer, with its low speed and no real way for it to switch out.
  • It also appreciates a Knock Off absorber, as it takes super effective damage, and can not Harvest back the Lum Berry to bring back its health.This would usually be a Mega Pokemon, like Audino or Steelix
Other Options
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  • With its decent defensive typing, it can utilize a set with Leech Seed and Substitute, with the Sitrus Berry for recovery, that can effectively stall out opposing pokemon.
  • Berries such as the Kee or Starf Berry can be used in order to boost its stats, but in doing this it loses out on its main form of recovery in LumRest or Sitrus, and has to use Synthesis. Another useful berry to consider is the Colbur Berry, as it is the only berry that is not lost with Knock Off, and allows it to check fighting types more reliably. yache berry can be used to check Ice Punch Feraligatr, Meadow Plate can bluff specs
Checks & Counters mention how each of these things plays against exeggutor. how? when? why? are good questions to answer for each. I also feel this section is a little bare.
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**Grass Types**: Most grass types like Liligant or Ludicolo can switch in on Giga Drain or Sleep Powder, and proceed to attack or set up on it. They only really fear the HP Fire on the specs set.

**Bug Types**: Especially pokemon like Scyther that can U-Turn out of Exeggutor and deal 4x Super Effective damage, almost always KOing it. They also resist the main STAB in Leaf Storm or Giga Drain, and fear the Hidden Power Fire or Ancientpower.

**Xatu**: Xatu can pretty much come in on any move that Exeggutor has to to off, either than a stray Ancientpower, and either Heat Wave, Roost, or U-Turn out, crippling Exeggutor if not killing it.

**Knock Off**: As it shares an unfortunate weakness to Dark Type moves, Knock Off will always be hitting it Super Effectively. It also removes the Berry from the Harvest set, and does not let it be harvested back.
 

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  • Harvest is useless here, as there is no berry, and in the instance you run into a Sun team, it allows it to out speed other pokemon. just mention how chlorophyll can be helpful against opposing sun, dont mention harvest
  • r pokemon that have no way of hurting it like Virizion or Seismitoad toad runs knock off quite a bit so mention something else here
  • Also good to keep around for certain set up sweepers, as it can just put them to sleep with Sleep Powder, in order for it to be killed by other pokemon, or Exeggutor itself. This includes certain pokemon like Assault Vest Malmar, which can usually come in on any of its moves and start setting up. But it is key to remember to only use Sleep Powder on the switch, and not stay in after using it, as it can let opposing grass type pokemon set up easily, like Lilligant or Virizion. Idk how much I like this point, I don't really see it being useful against most set-up sweepers. and against malamar especially it gets one turn as you put it to sleep and then another on the switch. if it doesnt get a first turn wake on the switch then you're in a 50/50 if it wakes up the following turn. also most malamar should be running sleeptalk anyways
  • the probopass mentions sounds like you're calling scyther a slow u-turn as well which its not. you can have more than two "such as x x" examples so you can put archeops back as well
  • you still don't mention rapid spin in team options, change it back to "hazard control such as rapid spin, defog...", and add the magic bounce mention
  • careful on the sr ohko mentions, mush is 50% chance and uxie is like >20% you make both sound like solid ohkos
  • mention explosion regirock and memento uxie as ways of bringing exeguttor in for the sun sweeper set.
    • Also pokemon that can easily beat members of a Rain Team help, as Rain makes Solarbeam into a three turn charge up move, immobilizing Exeggutor, and allowing the opposing team to set up on it. Pokemon that help with this includes Archeops, Scyther, and Swellow, all of which can threaten the opposing Grass type pokemon that are usually seen on Sun Teams idk what you're trying to say here, lol. reread i guess

  • some of what you have in C&C should probably go into TO instead, for example the point about knock off and mega's being a good switch-in. look this over again and move anything relevant.
other than those the only things i see are that you've c/p'd bullet points from lum rest to sun. while some of those are true the two sets play very differently and should be written as such. 1/3 once i approve the changes
 

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Hey Metaphysical, please remove mentions of banned Pokemon from this analysis! These include Mega Steelix, Heliolisk, Virizion, Qwilfish, and likely to be Feraligatr! :)

Also, implement Kiyo's suggestions so that this can go to 1/3!
 

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I think U-turn should get its own mention in C&C, a lot of the time it is enough to KO eggy and its not always on a Bug-type.

Add in SD Physical in oo
 

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You don't really tell me how Eggy plays in the current meta in the overview. All I'm getting from it is that its stats and typing are X, all of which I can just look above at in the dex. Atm there is very little in the Overview that I can't get from looking at its typing / stats. Please add in more info.
 

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In addition to the above, calling claydol a "threat" is a very flawed statement since it is not something you have to prepare for on every team like firespam or whatever, it is a support mon. Same goes for Seismitoad to an extent.
 

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In addition to the above, calling claydol a "threat" is a very flawed statement since it is not something you have to prepare for on every team like firespam or whatever, it is a support mon. Same goes for Seismitoad to an extent.
Offensive Claydol is actually p decent in NU, its not a top tier threat but its pretty decent in the metagame, offensive toad is also a thing with Sludge Bomb.
 

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In the Overview you talk about a "defensive set with Harvest," but there's no defensive sets anywhere. Even LumRest is more of a bulky offensive pivot.

Also Fire-types don't limit its offensive capabilities at all: Specs Leaf Storm does 65% minimum to Typhlosion and LumRest Psychic does a lot as well.

Timid isn't for Xatu because they're literally never going to run minimum Speed. It's for creeping other Eggy and bulkier versions of SD Otter.

Xatu and Pelipper don't really stand out as great partners to me. They both have below average synergy with it and honestly I don't think Eggy needs hazard control support ~that~ much anyway. Also list some actual examples of Pokemon that can set up SR + Spikes for Eggy

LumRest is Speed creeping, you only need 84 Spe to beat out base 65s

Lanturn is really the only Electric-type in this meta that LumRest Eggy "safely" switches into. Everything else pretty much destroys it with their coverage.
  • It is more useful on balance or stall, as it is a complete momentum killer, with its low speed and no real way for it to switch out.
??? How is a Pokemon with a heavily invested base 125 SpA, good coverage, and a sleep move a "momentum killer" lol (and I have no clue what "no real way for it to switch out" even means)

Modest Chloro Eggy doesn't outspeed +1 Vivillon...

Also why are you talking about teammates in C&C?
 

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Metaphysical Progress? Its been almost a month since you last edited the OP, and its been 2 weeks since Blastral left his check.
Also get rid of this:
  • Also good to keep around for certain set up sweepers, as it can just put them to sleep with Sleep Powder, in order for it to be killed by other pokemon, or Exeggutor itself. This includes certain pokemon like Assault Vest Malmar, which can usually come in on any of its moves and start setting up. But it is key to remember to only use Sleep Powder on the switch, and not stay in after using it, as it can let opposing grass type pokemon set up easily, like Lilligant or Virizion.
 

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