The question is: Is Breloom threatening enough to be considered a threat? Considering how it is natural for someone to carry a Gliscor, Cress, Salamence or Celebi (and other stuff that counters fighters), and a Sleep Talker to help against Hypnosis that could come out of Yanmegas/Gengars
I think you should sit back and think about what you're saying while remembering our target audience. You're "someone" seems like a competent battler who wouldn't be inclined to look at this threat list for help anyway, but regardless...a Sleep Talker? Those haven't been common since Advance. And even so, do you think our target audience knows unequivocally to keep Gliscor and Salamence away from Breloom until it sleeps something else?
Yes, but despite how appealing that looks, a fair bit of pokemon have the defense to take it.
I have both used Breloom to and seen it beat or at least totally stalemate a few Cresselia 1-on-1 because that was their Sleep Talker. Regardless, there are several pokemon on the threat list with multiple viable "counters", and Breloom is just one of them.
Breloom is not the only pogey that gives trouble if you don't have a STalker. Gengar, Yanmega, Jynx, Crobat, etc. Because of that, Breloom doesn't look as shiny as what it is described, despite its 100% acc Spore (either way, they give the same effects am I right?)
I am not sure why you're likening Spore to Hypnosis like they're the same move. By your logic, Grasswhistle Leafeon should be a viable threat since the accuracy is only 15% lower than Hypnosis'. That's less of a difference than the 30% between Spore and Hypnosis!
Besides, we can take all of your examples case by case. Gengar is a bigger threat because of Hypnosis (and is on the Threat List). Yanmega is a bigger threat because of Hypnosis (and is on the Threat List). Jynx may have made the Threat List if it weren't weak (to Pursuit)...or to put it in other terms, who the hell would even use Jynx if it didn't have Lovely Kiss, just for a Specs user that's outclassed by many other Specs Threats? And Crobat is much, much less annoying without Hypnosis...think back to how mediocre it was in Advance.
And if you're going to draw the comparison, you may as well put the pokemon on level terms. Do you honestly think Breloom would be as threatening if it only got Sleep Powder? What about if it only got Grasswhistle? Or, on the other side of the coin, what if Gengar did get Spore? Or Crobat? Or Yanmega? What if Shaymin and Sceptile and Roserade and Abomasnow got Spore (all learn Grasswhistle)? You can't honestly believe they wouldn't pose more of a threat than they currently do.
Anyway, I'm sounding off on this one because this is one of the few pokemon I actually have quite a bit of experience with and against.
I'm also not going to repeat myself on why I think Slaking is a threat. You all may be right regardless, but I already refuted the "it isn't used" argument in the other thread. And my reasoning behind Dugtrio has been in the RMT Announcement this Threat List came from since last March—the least us Policy Reviewers can do is read that if we haven't already, right? That said, I did just pick up my calculator to remind myself what Slaking can do to Skarmory—my evident litmus test for physical efficacy—and the 56-67% with TP/FP/FP (lol) isn't very apprealing when it's not attacking the next turn. I should have gone back to old, dependable "for some numbers" from the beginning... (as if I'm the final decision maker on this stuff lol)
Ultimately, if utility pokemon get a mention on the "defensive threat list", then Starmie, Suicune, and Kingdra probably would be better on that list and off of this one. Starmie's defenses are overrated... and such a popular and versatile pokemon deserves a mention on one of these lists.
You do realize that:
1) there is a Defensive Threat List
2) Suicune and Starmie are already on there
3) I stated above that the lists aren't mutually exclusive, right?
The way this paragraph reads I honestly cannot tell whether you've read my posts to these effects, in both this thread and the first one in Stark, or the Defensive Threat List that's in the RMT forum and has been since August.