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First BW2 OU Team

Discussion in 'BW OU Teams' started by Stirk, Aug 5, 2012.

  1. Stirk

    Stirk

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    Hello Everyone, this is my first post on Smogon and team: with the new mg BW2, i wanted to build a team based on the good old Volcarona, with his destructive QDance. I tested the team and saw what isn't bad, with a decent win rate. Enjoy and Rate!​

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    Ferrothorn (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Iron Barbs
    EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SDef
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Thunder Wave
    - Stealth Rock
    - Power Whip
    - Protect
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    Ferrothorn is a pretty good lead for the team, his main objective is set the srocks and paralize opponent's pokèmons. Protect can be good for check enemy pokemon's. The spread is for resist any baitkiller of ferrothorn and principales fire attacks.​

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    Starmie @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Hydro Pump
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunderbolt
    - Rapid Spin
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    A team based on Volcarona would means what a rapidspinner is in the team: Starmie is (for me) #1 RapidSpinner for Volcarona: he entry on bulky waters or foretress and spins. He also can sweep and support rotom-w to defeat bulky waters and Volcarona counters:Thunderbolt for gyarados and other bulky, hpump for other volcarona and ice beam for dragonite and other bulky dragons. 252 SAtk is a good assicuration for starmie 's attacks, and 252 Speed makes him rapidspin when possibile.​


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    Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Technician
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SDef
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - U-turn
    - Bullet Punch
    - Pursuit
    - Superpower
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    On the final steps of the team building, i was needed of a good revengekiller; Well, scizor isn't a revengekiller...he IS a revengekiller! with his counters eliminated by rotomw/starmie, scizor can safely u-turn all the pokemons and revengekill them with a pretty good BPunch. The Spread is the standard of the CBander Set.​

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    Rotom-W @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Volt Switch
    - Hydro Pump
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Pain Split
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    Everyone now the Volcarona's principal counters: Bulky Waters and fire types like heatran and ferrothorn. Rotom-W is my response to all this guys. Hydro Pump simply kill them all and Volt Switch clean the way from Gyarados and his brothers. If a Ferrothorn or Forretress appears, hidden power fire kills them. Pain Split promises Rotom-w Long Life. The Spread is made for make Rotom-W a very bulky water guy and resist any attack from the Volk's Counters. ​

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    Breloom (F) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Techinician
    EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 144 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Stun Spore
    - Spore
    - Substitute
    - Focus Punch
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    Blissey and Chansey representes a probleem for Volcarona, and for two pinky bloobz i have two guys: Conkeldurr or Breloom. Breloom is my choice: with new ability Tecnichian, he can defeat on 2 minutes the pinky plonky bloobs and other stallers. The first question about this pokèmon is the set. This set is called the Double Spore: with this set he can, with stun spore, paralize Tornadus-T and make enter rotomw. ​

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    Volcarona (F) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Flame Body
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Bug Buzz
    - Quiver Dance
    - Fire Blast
    - Hidden Power [Ground]
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    The entire team is based on Volcarona: with his excellent speed and SAtk, and without his counters, he can seriously damage the enemy team; is one of my favourite pkmns of the 5th gen. The set is the standard QDancer, but my volcarona has one particolarity: HP Ground: On the 80% of times, the enemy call Heatran against Volcarona to absorb Fire Blast, so i put HP Ground for defeat him: i can also predict the switch, QDance and OHKO heatran with HPGround.​
    Stirk, Aug 5, 2012
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  2. XxpokemonmasterXx

    XxpokemonmasterXx

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    This is something I hate about the Internet over saturation of memes. You used them incorrectly and just threw them in on their faces.

    Anyways stun spore on Breloom is pretty useless, replace it for seed bomb for more coverage and powerful stab

    Replace Hydro pump on arsenide for surf so you don't miss
    XxpokemonmasterXx, Aug 5, 2012
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  3. Stirk

    Stirk

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    stun spore is for tornadus-t: breloom subs, tornadus-t enters and breloom stunspore him
    Stirk, Aug 5, 2012
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  4. mikel

    mikel frizy will carry ocn
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    With your current Breloom set, Poison Heal is 100% better. Try Mach Punch and Bullet Seed over Focus Punch and Stun Spore if you'd prefer to use Technician. Stun Spore on Breloom really isn't worth it this gen, especially if you can hit it with Spore instead. You also may not enjoy LO recoil in combination with the Substitute drain, so with the lack of a Wish-passer, I could see Leftovers working very well on Breloom.

    Bulky Fighting types like Conkeldurr and Machamp with Stone Edge look as though they could really trouble your team, as could Keldeo after a Calm Mind or two. Psychic or Psyshock on Starmie would help to hit these as they set up - Psyshock in particular hitting the dangerous Keldeo which your team cannot otherwise touch. Of course, it means losing a coverage move, which could be annoying.
    mikel, Aug 5, 2012
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  5. Jirachee

    Jirachee Nightfall
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    Hi

    Great team, however, opposing Volcarona could be quite a pain to deal with. In sun, it can very easily set up on your Scizor if it's locked into either Bullet Punch or Superpower and then completely massacre your team. Everything is going to be OHKOed by +1 Bug Buzz or Fire Blast, and since you can't outspeed it, you're in for trouble. It's usually pretty difficult for non weather team to deal with Volcarona anyway. Even the bulkier versions could hurt this team a lot since they also set up on Scizor and while Rotom-W isn't OHKOed, you can't damage it that much with Hydro Pump in Sun and it can simply use Morning Sun to recover its health back. Since you don't carry your own weather, Tornadus-T could also be a lot of trouble for your team. Yeah, you can lure it in and Stun Spore it with Breloom, but that doesn't always work. If it gets it on something like Ferrothorn it's pretty much guareenteed to get a kill. While you can certainly deal with it, it could more than you'd like that your team gets hurt really bad by Specs Tornadus-T. Your team could really benefit from dropping Breloom for a Choice Scarf Terrakion. Terrakion is the absolute best check to any Volcarona variant as it outspeeds it and can OHKO it with its Rock STAB. Terrakion also gives you a solid revenge killer for Tornadus-T, something that your team lacks as if it is weakened by hazards, you could end up losing that way. Finally, Terrakion also deals with Chansey and Blissey with STAB Close Combat, which is the reason why you use Breloom in the first place. This way, you don't really lose on anything that Breloom could deal with while also checking bigger threats, which is always cool.

    Also, you could really use Spikes over Protect on Ferrothorn. Protect is pretty cool since Ferrothorn lacks an instant recovery move, but it isn't that useful without Leech Seed as you won't earn that much recovery. Spikes, on the other hand, give you extra entry hazards, which is always welcome, and since Ferrothorn is one of the best in the game at setting them up, you might want to use them. It's very useful for Volcarona to have both Spikes and Stealth Rock on the field as it turns many 2HKOes into OHKOes since it is so powerful, and its overall frailness might not allow it to take an extra hit. In my opinion this is much more useful than Protect, unless you really like the fact you can scout the enemy's Choiced mons.

    Otherwise, cool team. Here's the set you should use:
    Terrakion (open)

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    Terrakion @ Choice Scarf
    Justified
    Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    ~Close Combat
    ~Stone Edge
    ~X-Scissor
    ~Earthquake


    Good luck!
    Jirachee, Aug 5, 2012
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  6. Shining_Latios

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    As stated, Stun Spore really isn't that great. Use Seed Bomb instead and Poison Heal with a Toxic Orb over Technician and Life Orb. Anyways, Tornadus-T can cause troubles to your team under the Rain and Volcarona definitely won't appreciate that. Try out Mamoswine over Scizor. Mamoswine is able to threaten Tornadus-T with Ice Shard as well as the other Therian forms.

    Mamoswine (open)

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    Mamoswine @ Life Orb
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
    Adamant Nature
    Moves:
    - Ice Shard
    - Icicle Spear
    - Earthquake
    - Superpower


    Another small suggestion is trying out HP Rock over HP Ground on Volcarona to take care of pesky Flying-type Pokemon. Starmie and Rotom-W should be able to deal with Heatran without too much trouble. Hope I helped.
    Shining_Latios, Aug 5, 2012
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