Ubers Genesect

[Nayrz]

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QC Checks: Sweep, Fireburn, Edgar
GP Checks: GatoDelFuego, fleurdyleurse

Overview
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The generation shift has seemingly gone very much against Genesect. It lost its resistances to Dark and Ghost in exchange for a new resistance to Fairy. The lack of Soul Dew in the Ubers metagame means that Genesect lost two very important targets in XY: Latios and Latias. The rarity of Dragon Dance Rayquaza means that a big niche Genesect had in revenge killing it has also diminished. However, Genesect still has the title of being one of the best Choice Scarf users thanks to Download, its great typing, and excellent coverage options, making it able to turn the tides of battle easily.

Choice Scarf
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name: Choice Scarf
move 1: U-turn
move 2: Iron Head
move 3: Explosion / Extreme Speed
move 4: Ice Beam / Blaze Kick
item: Choice Scarf
evs: 248 Atk / 8 SpA / 252 Spe
nature: Naive / Hasty

Moves
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Genesect's ability to become one of the best Choice Scarf users in the Uber tier has not changed this generation. U-turn is the move that will be primarily used, taking advantage of forced-out enemy Pokemon and creating momentum for your own team. Iron Head is used to smack Fairy-type Pokemon very hard, being able to 2HKO all but the most physically bulky Fairy-types after Stealth Rock, while coming with a handy 30% flinch rate. Explosion is a last resort move to deal huge amounts of damage, allowing Genesect to become an emergency check to Extreme Killer Arceus, and is Genesect's best attack against Ho-Oh, being able to OHKO with a Download boost behind it. Extreme Speed gives Genesect extra utility by adding some priority to a team, and can revenge kill severely weakened threats that might be faster than it such as Geomancy Xerneas or Mega Blaziken. Ice Beam allows Genesect to deal heavy damage to Dragon- or Ground-types such as Zekrom, Groudon and Landorus-T, and it also OHKOes Rayquaza after it has taken a round of Life Orb recoil. Blaze Kick is useful to hit the Steel-types that might come in to absorb a U-turn such as Mega Scizor, Ferrothorn, and Forretress.

Set Details
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The EV spread is relatively simple. Put 248 EVs into Attack and max Speed out to allow Genesect to hit hard while being as fast as possible. Dump the remaining EVs into Special Attack, or Defense if you're not using Ice Beam, and opt for a Naive nature if Extreme Speed or Blaze Kick are not being used to take physical priority attacks better from Pokemon such as Extreme Killer Arceus and Mega Scizor. If Extreme Speed or Blaze Kick are being used, use a Hasty nature to maintain legality.

Usage Tips
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If a dedicated lead is not being used, leading with Genesect is a great idea to gain momentum on the opponent from the start. If the matchup is favorable and you expect the opponent to switch, U-turn out into a Pokemon that can apply immediate pressure to whatever the opponent switched into. Genesect should not be used as a straight-up attacker—its role on a team is mainly to revenge kill threats and create momentum with U-turn. Take care when switching into Fairy-types such as Xerneas and Fairy Arceus as they might have a move that can cripple or severely weaken Genesect. Xerneas might have Hidden Power Fire and Fairy Arceus might try to burn Genesect with Will-O-Wisp on the switch. Keep in mind that Genesect isn't particularly great at revenge killing a boosted Geomancy Xerneas either, as Xerneas will now outspeed and take Genesect out with a coverage move. If not using U-turn, be careful what move Genesect will lock itself into using as it might give the opponent a free switch.

Team Options
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Genesect loves having Pokemon that can reliably set entry hazards and maintain offensive pressure to keep them up. Reliable Stealth Rock users such as Dialga and Landorus-T can keep hazards up and make sure the switches that Genesect forces are punished more by entry hazard damage. Spikes users such as Deoxys-S or Klefki are also great options for hazard laying. Sticky Web is also something Genesect appreciates as with Sticky Web on the field, Genesect can now take a +1 Speed Xerneas out with Iron Head. Shuckle is the best user of Sticky Web, and Genesect can support it by discouraging Darkrai from anti-leading Shuckle. Genesect suits offensive teams the best due to its abilities to gain momentum and revenge kill threats, and as such should not be used alongside defensive Pokemon. A Defog user such as Arceus-Water or Giratina-O can be useful for when there are too many entry hazards on Genesect's side of the field, as Genesect hates entry hazards itself as they can stop it from freely creating momentum, but this can be counterproductive; aim mainly to keep offensive pressure to keep your entry hazards up and the opponent's entry hazards away. Zekrom is a nice partner as it can handle some threats that Genesect can't do too much against such as Kyogre and Ho-Oh and can form a VoltTurn core.

Choice Band
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name: Choice Band
move 1: U-turn
move 2: Iron Head
move 3: Extreme Speed
move 4: Blaze Kick / Explosion
item: Choice Band
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Hasty

Moves
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Genesect can swap Speed for more power by equipping a Choice Band. U-turn now has a lot more power behind it, severely denting any Pokemon that do not resist it and creating momentum for Genesect's team. Iron Head hits like a truck and will easily 2HKO if not OHKO any Fairy-type or Rock-type while also being able to 2HKO max HP Arceus formes with a Download boost. Extreme Speed has priority and allows Genesect to revenge kill faster threats such as Mewtwo, Deoxys, and Mega Blaziken. Blaze Kick destroys any Ferrothorn, Mega Scizor, or Forretress that might try to take a U-turn or Iron Head. A Choice Band-boosted Explosion is a literal nuke with a Download boost behind it, able to OHKO even the bulkiest of Arceus formes. Ice Beam is an alternative option to hit bulky Ground-types such as Groudon, Landorus-T, and Hippowdon harder.

Set Details
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Max out Attack and Speed for maximum power and to take advantage of Genesect's nice Speed tier. Put the rest of the EVs in Defense, and use a Hasty nature to keep the set legal; Blaze Kick and Extreme Speed are event moves.

Usage Tips
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Most opponents will expect a Choice Scarf set, so this set acts very well by still forcing switches in the same way but with more power behind it. As such, take care not to reveal what item Genesect is holding by staying in on naturally faster Pokemon that you can't scare out very well such as Palkia, otherwise Mewtwo and other very fast threats will be more inclined to stay in and take Genesect out if it's revealed that it is not holding a Choice Scarf.

Team Options
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This set really appreciates entry hazards to punish switches. Sticky Web works very well with this set as Genesect can now outspeed threats that are faster than it, making Shuckle a good teammate. For other entry hazard setters, good Stealth Rock users include Landorus-T, Groudon, and Dialga, while good Spikes users include Deoxys and Klefki. Zekrom also is effective here, and can take on the role of the Choice Scarf user, making a VoltTurn core.

Other Options
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A Choice Scarf set consisting of special moves such as Bug Buzz and Flamethrower is an alternative, but the addition of Fairy-types make this set very easy to play around. Shift Gear is a fine idea for a boosting move, though it is quite redundant as Download can gain the Attack boost and a Choice Scarf can gain the Speed Genesect seeks, as well as the fact that Genesect isn't very powerful as a standalone attacker. Other coverage options such as Thunder can be a good idea for some teams, but Thunder lacks utility in general.

Checks & Counters
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**Ho-Oh**: With the help of Regenerator, Ho-Oh can switch into Genesect easily if Stealth Rock is not set up. Genesect can't do much to Ho-Oh outside of Explosion.

**Heatran**: Heatran ultimately walls Genesect as none of its attacks can really scratch Heatran, while Heatran easily OHKOes it with Lava Plume.

**Fire-types**: Fire Arceus, Reshiram, and Blaziken are not really bothered by Iron Head or U-turn and easily OHKO with their Fire-type moves.

**Steel-types**: Steel Arceus, Dialga, and Aegislash can switch into most of Genesect's attacks with ease and whittle Genesect down or set up. Scizor, Ferrothorn, and Forretress can also do this but must be very wary of Genesect's Fire-type coverage.

**Status Moves**: Moves such as Will-O-Wisp and Thunder Wave can catch Genesect off-guard and leave it effectively useless.

**Bulky Attackers**: Pokemon that can take most of Genesect's attacks and OHKO back are large threats, but it can be difficult to back Genesect into a corner due to U-turn. Kyogre, Zekrom, and Groudon are good examples of Pokemon that can do this.

**Entry Hazards**: Entry hazards can limit Genesect's switching room and make it difficult for Genesect to zip around teams. Sticky Web also removes Genesect's Speed advantage.

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Overview
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• Nice typing, only weak to Fire
• Has the title of being one of the best Choice Scarf users due to great speed, Download, and coverage
• Loss of Ghost / Dark resists limit its switch in opportunities, intro of Fairies gives a new resist
• Disappearance of Latias and Latios as well as DD Rayquaza's rarity give it less uses on a team
• Relatively frail by ubers standards

Physical Choice Scarf
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name: Physical Choice Scarf
move 1: U-Turn
move 2: Iron Head
move 3: Explosion / Extreme Speed
move 4: Ice Beam / Blaze Kick
item: Choice Scarf
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Hasty

Moves
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• U-Turn is U-Turn, ideal for scouting and dealing good damage while also keeping momentum
• Iron Head for hitting all Fairy-types very hard
• Ice Beam to hit Dragon-types like Rayquaza and Zekrom, also revenges DD Ray which is always nice
• Extreme Speed to add a bit of priority, picking off any severely weakened / frail threats, gives it a bigger niche in checking Geomancy Xerneas
• Explosion is your most powerful attack against Extremekiller and can act as an emergency check due to its resistance to Extreme Speed
• Blaze Kick to hit Scizor, Ferrothorn, Forretress, etc

Set Details
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• Standard EVs, etc
• Scarf is obvious
• Hasty because its needed to be able to run Extreme Speed or Blaze Kick, Naive otherwise to take Extreme Speeds from Extreme Killer Arceus better

Usage Tips
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• Leading with it is good for good scouting on turn 1, U-Turn out most of the time to get favorable matchup with the opposing mon
• Revenge kill weakened threats
• Smack Fairies with Iron Head, Genesect will live a +2 Moonblast without hazards if it has to
  
• Be careful about switching into them for fear of Will-O-Wisp (Fairy Arceus) and HP Fire (Xerneas)
  
• When not using U-Turn beware of what you lock yourself into otherwise you may give the opponent a free turn
• Used as a momentum gainer and revenge killer, not as a straight up attacker

Team Options
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• Fits offensive teams very well
• Pokemon that can apply immediate pressure when Genesect brings them in via U-Turn (Xerneas, Kyogre etc)
• Also works very well on Sticky Web teams - Genesect can now reliably take down a +1 Speed Geomancy Xerneas with Iron Head and discourages Darkrai anti-leads, Shuckle is the best user of webs
• Zekrom handles some of Genesect's threats and forms a VoltTurn core
• Spikes setters such as Klefki and Deoxys-Speed are good to help punish switches that Genesect forces
• Reliable Stealth Rock users such as Dialga and Landorus-T to keep Ho-Oh at bay
• Keeping on top of the hazards game is essential to playing Genesect well

Choice Band
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name: Choice Band
move 1: U-Turn
move 2: Iron Head
move 3: Extreme Speed
move 4: Blaze Kick / Explosion
item: Choice Band
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Hasty

Moves
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• U-Turn is U-Turn, now with more powa and punishes switches even more
• Iron Head will 2HKO any Fairy, hits neutral targets very hard if you get a Download boost behind it
• Extreme Speed hits a bit harder on this set, adds priority to a team while picking off weakened threats such as Blaziken and Xerneas and cleaning up teams in general
• Blaze Kick destroys Steels
• Explosion will do massive damage if not outright OHKO a threat that doesn't resist it at the cost of its life
• Ice Beam can hit bulky Grounds harder

Set Details
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• Obvious EVs are obvious
• Band for da powa
• Hasty because you need it for Extreme Speed + Blaze Kick legality

Usage Tips
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• Used like the Choice Scarf set but with less speed and more power
• Try not to reveal what set you are early on or you can't scare out naturally faster opponents as well as the Scarf set does
• Avoid outright switching into things as Genesect is fairly frail and can't always U-turn out of a bad situation

Team Options
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• Similar to Choice Scarf's team options
• Slower U-Turn comes in useful, good for getting slow mons like Specs Kyogre in safely and works best if you can bluff the Choice Scarf set instead
• Zekrom can make a nice VoltTurn core and also handles Pokemon that Genesect cant like Ho-Oh and Kyogre
• Genesect loves hazards support to rack up damage and keep the opponent on the back foot, and also dislikes hazards on its own side of the field. Keeping up offensive pressure to keep hazards on their side is essential. Pokemon like Arceus-Water and Giratina-O are good Defoggers should there be a lot of hazards on your side.
• Also works very well on Sticky Web teams - However a +1 Speed Xerneas will still outspeed you. Shuckle is the best user of Sticky Web, and Genesect can discourage Darkrai from attempting to anti-lead Shuckle.

Other Options
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• Special Scarf (QC thoughts about its own set?)
• Shift Gear
• Other coverage like Bug Buzz, Thunder, etc

Checks & Counters
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**Ho-Oh** Takes any move barring Explosion and +1 Thunder, Ho-Oh's Regenerator ability allows it to switch into U-Turns infinitely unless Stealth Rock is up

**Fire-types**: Blaze, Fire Arceus, Heatran and Reshiram resist Genesect's STAB attacks and easily KO it with Fire-type moves

**Steel-types** Steel Arceus, Dialga, Aegislash, Scizor and other Genesect are only bothered by Flamethrower or Blaze Kick, Dialga doesn't care what Genesect does

**Status** Burns and Paralysis leave Genesect near useless

**Bulky Attackers** Mons that can take most hits from Genesect and OHKO back, examples being Kyogre, Groudon and Zekrom

**Hazards** Limit Genesect's switch in opportunities and stops it spamming U-Turn

 

[Nayrz]

Still editing things in here and there but i believe this is ready for QC checks. I don't feel like special scarf is viable this gen but QC can discuss that.

 

[Fireburn]

Special Scarf is mediocre aside from being able to RK Mewtwo X better, I don't think that is enough to merit a set though.

I would slash Explosion on Slot 3 of the Scarf set - it's your most powerful attack against Extremekiller, and Sect's ESpeed resistances means it can work as an emergency check. CB Sect checks Xern/Blaziken better with ESpeed due to having naturally more power regardless.

Both sets like Sticky Web support - Scarf is particularly nice since it can take down +1 Speed Xerneas with Iron Head and discourage Darkrai leads that might try to counter Shuckle. Gene tends to spam U-turn most of the time anyway so Defogging on it is hard.

Genesect loves hazard support so make sure to emphasize that, but also mention that it hates hazards itself so mention offensive pressure/Defoggers (Arceus-Water and Giratina-O are fine options) to help keep hazards away.

If you are going to give Ho-Oh its own section in C&C then you should mention Regenerator, if SR isn't up it can tank U-turn literally forever. Also put Heatran in Fire-types, it completely walls Genesect. Aegislash can go in Steel-types as well.

Do these things and I'll stamp.

 

[Nayrz]

Special Scarf is mediocre aside from being able to RK Mewtwo X better, I don't think that is enough to merit a set though.

I would slash Explosion on Slot 3 of the Scarf set - it's your most powerful attack against Extremekiller, and Sect's ESpeed resistances means it can work as an emergency check. CB Sect checks Xern/Blaziken better with ESpeed due to having naturally more power regardless.

Both sets like Sticky Web support - Scarf is particularly nice since it can take down +1 Speed Xerneas with Iron Head and discourage Darkrai leads that might try to counter Shuckle. Gene tends to spam U-turn most of the time anyway so Defogging on it is hard.

Genesect loves hazard support so make sure to emphasize that, but also mention that it hates hazards itself so mention offensive pressure/Defoggers (Arceus-Water and Giratina-O are fine options) to help keep hazards away.

If you are going to give Ho-Oh its own section in C&C then you should mention Regenerator, if SR isn't up it can tank U-turn literally forever. Also put Heatran in Fire-types, it completely walls Genesect. Aegislash can go in Steel-types as well.

Do these things and I'll stamp.

Added all changes.

 

[Edgar]

I'd put Explosion before Extremespeed as I think it has more utility like doing massive damage to Ho-Oh and it's kind of unexpected where as Genesect's typing is already good for taking priority moves like +2 Extreemspeed from Arceus or Bullet Punch from Scizor. Otherwise looks good :]

 

[Nayrz]

changed :]

 

[Edgar]

Hmmm...... Maybe slash Naive nature on both sets so you can take physical priority better?

 

[Nayrz]

Hmmm...... Maybe slash Naive nature on both sets so you can take physical priority better?

I was going to do that but each set will either have Extreme Speed or Blaze Kick (and unslashed in places so no alternatives) which both need a Hasty nature to be legal :( I did mention Naive at the bottom of the Scarf set for when the user doesn't want Espeed or Blaze Kick though.

 

[Edgar]

I was going to do that but each set will either have Extreme Speed or Blaze Kick (and unslashed in places so no alternatives) which both need a Hasty nature to be legal :( I did mention Naive at the bottom of the Scarf set for when the user doesn't want Espeed or Blaze Kick though.

Good point, totally forgot about that.

 

[Sweep]

It's too bad Ice Beam lost a hair of power, as Genesect now needs a little more Special Attack to ensure that Beam will OHKO Rayquaza. It'll die to Beam after SR or one round of LO recoil anyway so I don't think it's significant.

Special Scarf should stay in OO. Also mention Thunder in general to ambush stuff like Skarmory and Gyarados before it mega evolves in an emergency situation.

QC 1/3

 

[Fireburn]

QC 2/3

 

[Nayrz]

This is written up, but im gonna leave it for a few hours and look back at it in case I missed some things.

 

[Edgar]

Yeah, everything looks good

QC Approved 3/3 :]

 

[Nayrz]

Going to give this a quick once-over then move this to GP.

 

[PISTOLERO]

I believe that 248 Atk / 8 SpA / 252 Atk is more efficient when it comes to Download boosts as it gives the same amount of one after the boost whilst giving an extra point in the other. It's humongously nitpicky though

 

[Nayrz]

had to change two whole sentences for that nitpick, sheesh

 

[GatoDelFuego]

Nayrz Genesect @ Soul Dew imo

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Overview
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The generation shift has seemingly gone very much against Genesect. It lost its resistances to Dark and Ghost, (RC) in return for a new resistance to Fairy. The lack of Soul Dew in the Ubers metagame means that Genesect lost two very important targets in XY: Latios and Latias. The rarity of Dragon Dance Rayquaza means that a big niche Genesect had in revenge killing it has also diminished. However, Genesect still has the title of being one of the best Choice Scarf users due to its ability Download, its great typing, and excellent coverage options, (AC) making it able to turn the tides of battle easily.

Choice Scarf
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name: Choice Scarf
move 1: U-Turn
move 2: Iron Head
move 3: Explosion / Extreme Speed
move 4: Ice Beam / Blaze Kick
item: Choice Scarf
evs: 248 Atk / 8 SpA / 252 Spe
nature: Naive / Hasty

Moves
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Genesect's ability to become one of the best Choice Scarf users in the Ubers tier has not changed this generation. U-turn is the move that will be primarily used, taking advantage of forced-out enemy Pokemon and creating momentum for your own team. Iron Head is used to smack Fairy-type Pokemon very hard, able to 2HKO all but the most physically bulky Fairy-types after Stealth Rock, and comes with a handy 30% flinch rate. Explosion is a last ditch resort move to deal huge damage, allowing Genesect to become an emergency check to Extreme Killer Arceus, and is Genesect's best attack against Ho-Oh, able to OHKO with a Download boost behind it. Extreme Speed gives Genesect extra utility by adding some priority to a team, and can revenge kill severely weakened threats that may might be faster than it such as Geomancy Xerneas or Mega Blaziken. Ice Beam allows Genesect to deal heavy damage to Dragon- or Ground-types such as Zekrom, Groudon and Landorus-T, and it also OHKOes Rayquaza after it has taken a round of Life Orb recoil. Blaze Kick is useful to hit the Steel-types that may might come in to absorb a U-turn such as Mega Scizor, Ferrothorn, and Forretress.

Set Details
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The EV spread is relatively simple. Put 248 EVs into Attack and max out Speed to allow Genesect to hit hard while being as fast as possible. Dump the remaining EVs into Special Attack, or Defense if not using Ice Beam, and opt for a Naive nature if Extreme Speed or Blaze Kick is are not being used to take physical priority attacks better from Pokemon like such as Extreme Killer Arceus and Mega Scizor. If Extreme Speed or Blaze Kick is are being used then use a Hasty nature to maintain legality.

Usage Tips
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If a dedicated lead is not being used, leading with Genesect is a great idea to gain momentum on the opponent from the start. If the matchup is favorable and you expect the opponent to switch, U-turn out into a Pokemon that can apply immediate pressure to whatever the opponent switched into. Genesect should not be used as a straight-up attacker—its role on a team is mainly suited to revenge kill threats and create momentum with U-turn. Take care when switching into Fairy-types such as Xerneas and Fairy Arceus as they may might have a move that can cripple or severely weaken Genesect. Xerneas may might have Hidden Power Fire and Fairy Arceus may might try to burn Genesect with Will-O-Wisp on the switch. Keep in mind that Genesect isn't particularly great at revenge killing a boosted Geomancy Xerneas either, as Xerneas will now outspeed and take Genesect out with a coverage move. If not using U-turn, be careful what move Genesect will lock itself into using as it may might give the opponent a free switch.

Team Options
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Genesect loves having Pokemon that can reliably set entry hazards and maintain offensive pressure to keep them up. Reliable Stealth Rock users such as Dialga and Landorus-T can keep hazards up and make sure the switches that Genesect forces are punished more by entry hazards damage. Spikes users such as Deoxys-Speed or Klefki are also great options for hazard laying. Sticky Web is also something Genesect appreciates as with Sticky Web on the field, Genesect can now take down a +1 Speed Xerneas with Iron Head. Shuckle is the best user of Sticky Web, and Genesect can support it by discouraging Darkrai from anti-leading Shuckle. Genesect suits offensive teams the best due to its abilities to gain momentum and revenge kill threats, and as such should not be used alongside defensive Pokemon. A Defog user like such as Arceus-Water or Giratina-O can be useful for when there are too many entry hazards on Genesect's side of the field, (AC) as Genesect hates entry hazards itself as it they can stop it freely creating momentum, but this can be counterproductive; (SC) aim mainly to keep offensive pressure to keep your entry hazards up and the opponent's entry hazards away. Zekrom is a nice partner as it can handle some threats that Genesect can't do too much against such as Kyogre and Ho-Oh and can form a VoltTurn core.

Choice Band
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name: Choice Band
move 1: U-Turn
move 2: Iron Head
move 3: Extreme Speed
move 4: Blaze Kick / Explosion
item: Choice Band
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Hasty

Moves
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Genesect can swap Speed for more power by equipping a Choice Band. U-turn now has a lot more power behind it, severely denting any non-resists Pokemon that do not resist is and creating momentum for its Genesect's team. Iron Head hits like a truck and will easily 2HKO if not OHKO any Fairy-type or Rock-type while also being able to 2HKO max HP Arceus formes with a Download boost. Extreme Speed adds priority and allows Genesect to revenge kill faster threats like Mewtwo, Deoxys, (AC) and Mega Blaziken. Blaze Kick destroys any Ferrothorn, Mega Scizor, (AC) or Forretress that may might try to take a U-turn or Iron Head. A Choice Band-boosted Explosion becomes a literal nuke with a Download boost behind it, able to OHKO even the bulkiest of Arceus formes! Ice Beam is an alternative option to hit bulky Ground-types like such as Groudon, Landorus-T, (AC) and Hippowdon harder.

Set Details
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Another relatively simple EV spread Max out Attack and Speed for maximum power and to take advantage of Genesect's nice Speed tier. Put the rest of the EVs in Defense, and use a Hasty nature to keep the set legal; (SC) Blaze Kick and Extreme Speed are event moves.

Usage Tips
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Used in similar ways to the Choice Scarf set, but with a few twists. Most opponents will expect a Choice Scarf set, so this set acts very well by still forcing switches in the same way but with more power behind it. As such, take care not to reveal what item Genesect is holding by staying in on naturally faster Pokemon that you can't scare out very well such as Palkia, otherwise Mewtwo and other very fast threats will be more inclined to stay in and take Genesect out if it's revealed that it is not holding a Choice Scarf.

Team Options
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In the same way as the Choice Scarf set, This set really appreciates entry hazards to punish switches. Sticky Web works very well with this set as Genesect can now outspeed threats that are faster than it, making Shuckle a good teammate. For other entry hazard setters, good Stealth Rock users include Landorus-T, Groudon, (AC) and Dialga, while good Spikes users include Deoxys and Klefki. Zekrom also works here, but can take the role of the Choice Scarf user, making a VoltTurn core.

Other Options
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A Choice Scarf set consisting of special moves like Bug Buzz and Flamethrower is an alternative, but the addition of the Fairy-type make this set very easy to play around. Shift Gear is a cool idea for a boosting move, but is kind of redundant as Download can gain the Attack boost and a Choice Scarf can gain the Speed it Genesect seeks, as well as the fact that Genesect isn't very powerful as a standalone attacker. Other coverage options like Thunder can be a good idea for some teams, but in general lack utility Thunder lacks general utility outside of hitting Flying-types and Gyrarados for good damage and comes with accuracy issues.

Checks & Counters
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**Ho-Oh**: With the help of Regenerator, Ho-Oh can switch into Genesect if Stealth Rock is not up with impunity. Genesect can't do much to Ho-Oh outside of Explosion.

**Heatran**: Heatran ultimately walls Genesect as none of its attacks can really scratch it Heatran, while Heatran easily OHKOes with Lava Plume.

**Fire-types**: Fire Arceus, Reshiram, (AC) and Blaziken are not really bothered by Iron Head or U-turn and easily OHKO with their Fire-type moves.

**Steel-types**: Steel Arceus, Dialga, (AC) and Aegislash can switch into most of Genesect's attacks with ease and whittle Genesect down or set up. Scizor, Ferrothorn, (AC) and Forretress can also do this but must be very wary of Genesect's Fire-type coverage.

**Status Moves**: Moves such as Will-O-Wisp and Thunder Wave can catch Genesect off-guard and leave it effectively useless.

**Bulky Attackers**: Pokemon that can take most of Genesect's attacks and OHKO back are large threats, but it can be difficult to back Genesect into a corner due to U-turn. Kyogre, Zekrom, (AC) and Groudon are good examples of Pokemon that can do this.

**Entry Hazards**: Entry hazards can limit Genesect's switching room and make it difficult for Genesect to zip around teams. Sticky Web also removes Genesect's Speed advantage.

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1. Serial commas
2. U-turn
3. OHKOes
4. May asks for permission, but might refers to something that has a chance of occurring.

But otherwise good work :}

 

[Nayrz]

Check has now been implemented, thank you GatoDelFuego!
Looks like i need to remember when to use "like" and "such as" again.

 

[Ads20000]

I'm an am checker:
First thing I can see are lots of references to the changes that have made it better or worse this generation.
'Do not write an analysis in a form that puts emphasis on changes by generation.' - According to GatoDelFuego. Maybe I have misunderstood this, could you clarify? That would be a lot of changes and since Gato has already checked it once I would like a clarification on that before I suggest the necessary changes.

Apologies for my naivety -_-

 

[GatoDelFuego]

While that is a rule, it was made in a day where literally every overview said "with the advent of the fifth generation" and "thanks to the new team preview" somewhere. While this does have quite a few of these sentences, it makes a logical effort to explain them rather than just putting in fluff, which is why I decided not to alter something that could really be useful. Others can disagree.

 

[fleurdyleurse]

While that is a rule, it was made in a day where literally every overview said "with the advent of the fifth generation" and "thanks to the new team preview" somewhere. While this does have quite a few of these sentences, it makes a logical effort to explain them rather than just putting in fluff, which is why I decided not to alter something that could really be useful. Others can disagree.

this is correct
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Overview
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The generation shift has seemingly gone very much against Genesect. It lost its resistances to Dark and Ghost in returnexchange for a new resistance to Fairy. The lack of Soul Dew in the Ubers metagame means that Genesect lost two very important targets in XY: Latios and Latias. The rarity of Dragon Dance Rayquaza means that a big niche Genesect had in revenge killing it has also diminished. However, Genesect still has the title of being one of the best Choice Scarf users duethanks to Download, its great typing, and excellent coverage options, making it able to turn the tides of battle easily.
Choice Scarf
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name: Choice Scarf
move 1: U-Turn
move 2: Iron Head
move 3: Explosion / Extreme Speed
move 4: Ice Beam / Blaze Kick
item: Choice Scarf
evs: 248 Atk / 8 SpA / 252 Spe
nature: Naive / Hasty
Moves
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Genesect's ability to become one of the best Choice Scarf users in the Ubers tier has not changed this generation. U-turn is the move that will be primarily used, taking advantage of forced-out enemy Pokemon and creating momentum for your own team. Iron Head is used to smack Fairy-type Pokemon very hard, being able to 2HKO all but the most physically bulky Fairy-types after Stealth Rock, andwhile comesing with a handy 30% flinch rate. Explosion is a last resort move to deal huge amounts of damage, allowing Genesect to become an emergency check to Extreme Killer Arceus, and is Genesect's best attack against Ho-Oh, being able to OHKO with a Download boost behind it. Extreme Speed gives Genesect extra utility by adding some priority to a team, and can revenge kill severely weakened threats that might be faster than it such as Geomancy Xerneas or Mega Blaziken. Ice Beam allows Genesect to deal heavy damage to Dragon- or Ground-types such as Zekrom, Groudon and Landorus-T, and it also OHKOes Rayquaza after it has taken a round of Life Orb recoil. Blaze Kick is useful to hit the Steel-types that might come in to absorb a U-Turn such as Mega Scizor, Ferrothorn, and Forretress.
Set Details
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The EV spread is relatively simple. Put 248 EVs into Attack and max out Speed out to allow Genesect to hit hard while being as fast as possible. Dump the remaining EVs into Special Attack, or Defense if not you're using Ice Beam, and opt for a Naive nature if Extreme Speed or Blaze Kick are not being used to take physical priority attacks better from Pokemon such as Extreme Killer Arceus and Mega Scizor. If Extreme Speed or Blaze Kick are being used then, use a Hasty nature to maintain legality.
Usage Tips
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If a dedicated lead is not being used, leading with Genesect is a great idea to gain momentum on the opponent from the start. If the matchup is favorable and you expect the opponent to switch, U-turn out into a Pokemon that can apply immediate pressure to whatever the opponent switched into. Genesect should not be used as a straight-up attacker—its role on a team is mainly to revenge kill threats and create momentum with U-turn. Take care when switching into Fairy-types such as Xerneas and Fairy Arceus as they might have a move that can cripple or severely weaken Genesect. Xerneas might have Hidden Power Fire and Fairy Arceus might try to burn Genesect with Will-O-Wisp on the switch. Keep in mind that Genesect isn't particularly great at revenge killing a boosted Geomancy Xerneas either, as Xerneas will now outspeed and take Genesect out with a coverage move. If not using U-turn, be careful what move Genesect will lock itself into using as it might give the opponent a free switch.
Team Options
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Genesect loves having Pokemon that can reliably set entry hazards and maintain offensive pressure to keep them up. Reliable Stealth Rock users such as Dialga and Landorus-T can keep hazards up and make sure the switches that Genesect forces are punished more by entry hazards damage. Spikes users such as Deoxys-S or Klefki are also great options for hazard laying. Sticky Web is also something Genesect appreciates, as with Sticky Web on the field, Genesect can now take down a +1 Speed Xerneas out with Iron Head. Shuckle is the best user of Sticky Web, and Genesect can support it by discouraging Darkrai from anti-leading Shuckle. Genesect suits offensive teams the best due to its abilities to gain momentum and revenge kill threats, and as such should not be used alongside defensive Pokemon. A Defog user such as Arceus-Water or Giratina-O can be useful for when there are too many entry hazards on Genesect's side of the field, as Genesect hates entry hazards itself as they can stop it from freely creating momentum, but this can be counterproductive; aim mainly to keep offensive pressure to keep your entry hazards up and the opponent's entry hazards away. Zekrom is a nice partner as it can handle some threats that Genesect can't do too much against such as Kyogre and Ho-Oh and can form a VoltTurn core.
Choice Band
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name: Choice Band
move 1: U-Turn
move 2: Iron Head
move 3: Extreme Speed
move 4: Blaze Kick / Explosion
item: Choice Band
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Hasty
Moves
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Genesect can swap Speed for more power by equipping a Choice Band. U-turn now has a lot more power behind it, severely denting any Pokemon that do not resist it and creating momentum for Genesect's team. Iron Head hits like a truck and will easily 2HKO, if not OHKO, any Fairy-type or Rock-type while also being able to 2HKO max HP Arceus formes with a Download boost. Extreme Speed hadds priority and allows Genesect to revenge kill faster threats likesuch as Mewtwo, Deoxys, and Mega Blaziken. Blaze Kick destroys any Ferrothorn, Mega Scizor, or Forretress that might try to take a U-turn or Iron Head. A Choice Band-boosted Explosion becomeis a literal nuke with a Download boost behind it, being able to OHKO even the bulkiest of Arceus formes!. Ice Beam is an alternative option to hit bulky Ground-types such as Groudon, Landorus-T, and Hippowdon harder.
Set Details
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Max out Attack and Speed for maximum power and to take advantage of Genesect's nice Speed tier. Put the rest of the EVs in Defense, and use a Hasty nature to keep the set legal; Blaze Kick and Extreme Speed are event moves.
Usage Tips
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Most opponents will expect a Choice Scarf set, so this set acts very well by still forcing switches in the same way but with more power behind it. As such, take care not to reveal what item Genesect is holding by staying in on naturally faster Pokemon that you can't scare out very well such as Palkia, otherwise Mewtwo and other very fast threats will be more inclined to stay in and take Genesect out if it's revealed that it is not holding a Choice Scarf.
Team Options
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This set really appreciates entry hazards to punish switches. Sticky Web works very well with this set as Genesect can now outspeed threats that are faster than it, making Shuckle a good teammate. For other entry hazard setters, good Stealth Rock users include Landorus-T, Groudon, and Dialga, while good Spikes users include Deoxys and Klefki. Zekrom also workis effective here, butand can take on the role of the Choice Scarf user, making a VoltTurn core.
Other Options
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A Choice Scarf set consisting of special moves likesuch as Bug Buzz and Flamethrower is an alternative, but the addition of the Fairy-types make this set very easy to play around. Shift Gear is a coolfine idea for a boosting move, buthough it is kind ofquite redundant as Download can gain the Attack boost and a Choice Scarf can gain the Speed Genesect seeks, as well as the fact that Genesect isn't very powerful as a standalone attacker. Other coverage options likesuch as Thunder can be a good idea for some teams, but Thunder in general lacks utility in general.
Checks & Counters
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**Ho-Oh**: With the help of Regenerator, Ho-Oh can switch into Genesect easily if Stealth Rock is not up with impunityset up. Genesect can't do much to Ho-Oh outside of Explosion.
**Heatran**: Heatran ultimately walls Genesect as none of its attacks can really scratch Heatran, while Heatran easily OHKOes it with Lava Plume.
**Fire-types**: Fire Arceus, Reshiram, and Blaziken are not really bothered by Iron Head or U-turn and easily OHKO with their Fire-type moves.
**Steel-types**: Steel Arceus, Dialga, and Aegislash can switch into most of Genesect's attacks with ease and whittle Genesect down or set up. Scizor, Ferrothorn, and Forretress can also do this but must be very wary of Genesect's Fire-type coverage.
**Status Moves**: Moves such as Will-O-Wisp and Thunder Wave can catch Genesect off-guard and leave it effectively useless.
**Bulky Attackers**: Pokemon that can take most of Genesect's attacks and OHKO back are large threats, but it can be difficult to back Genesect into a corner due to U-turn. Kyogre, Zekrom, and Groudon are good examples of Pokemon that can do this.
**Entry Hazards**: Entry hazards can limit Genesect's switching room and make it difficult for Genesect to zip around teams. Sticky Web also removes Genesect's Speed advantage.

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