Ubers Gliscor



Overview
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At a glance, Gliscor seems like an inferior Stealth Rock setter in comparison to the more commonly seen Ground-types in Ubers, namely Landorus-T and Groudon. It has considerably lower stats than most Pokemon that are viable in the metagame, and it relies heavily on Toxic to deal significant damage. However, Gliscor has key niches in Poison Heal, Taunt, and Roost, which, in conjunction with its high Defense stat and great typing, allow it to counter opposing Ground-types and check several other physically based threats including Zekrom and Blaziken. In fact, the combination of longevity, Taunt, and immunity to status leaves Gliscor very capable of taking on both offensive and defensive Pokemon effectively.


Stealth Rock
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name: Stealth Rock
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Taunt / Roost
move 3: Toxic
move 4: Earthquake
ability: Poison Heal
item: Toxic Orb
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
nature: Impish

Moves
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Gliscor is a reliable user of Stealth Rock; it forces switches very often thanks to its typing and ability, giving it many opportunities to use the move. Taunt sets Gliscor apart from other Ground-types and is useful for stopping moves such as Defog, Rest, and Spikes. Roost also differentiates Gliscor from other Ground-types, and the ridiculous recovery it provides alongside Poison Heal lets Gliscor fare extremely well against strong physical attackers such as Zekrom and Ho-Oh. Toxic is Gliscor's main method of dealing damage and is particularly useful against support Arceus formes, which often carry Defog. Earthquake is Gliscor's mandatory STAB move and complements Toxic well, hitting Poison- and Steel-types super effectively.

Set Details
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A physically bulky EV spread lets Gliscor check physical attackers such as Ground Arceus, Excadrill, Lucario, and Mega Mewtwo X to the best of its ability, though it needs to watch out for surprise Ice-type moves. A Toxic Orb is used to activate Poison Heal; with the extra recovery the ability provides over Leftovers, Gliscor's physical walling capabilities approach those of Groudon! Speed investment is viable if Taunt is used—an investment of 44 EVs allows Gliscor to outspeed and Taunt Pokemon with an uninvested base 99 or 100 Speed, specifically defensive Yveltal and Jirachi.

Gliscor's EVs are very flexible in regards to Speed, and they can be tailored to make Gliscor outrun specific threats. For instance, 224 Speed EVs allow Gliscor to Taunt offensive Landorus-T before it can use Stealth Rock as well as outpace Pokemon with base 90 Speed and a neutral nature.

Usage Tips
========

Keep in mind that the Toxic Orb won't activate until the end of Gliscor's first turn out, and make sure that Gliscor is not burned, paralyzed, or put to sleep before it can be poisoned. With that said, it should be stressed that Gliscor's immunity to status can prove invaluable as countless defensive Pokemon have no way of dealing significant damage to it. This also allows Gliscor to function as a pivot of sorts, as it can absorb any status move and immediately switch out afterwards. On a separate note, make use of Gliscor's ability to keep Stealth Rock in play by using Taunt or Toxic on a predicted switch to a Defog user. Aside from this, Gliscor is a fairly simple Pokemon to use. It should set up Stealth Rock as quickly as it can, spread status with Toxic, and use its other moves when necessary.

Team Options
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Gliscor excels on balanced and defensively oriented teams, where good teammates for it are Pokemon that can cover its Water- and Ice-type weaknesses. Kyogre is a great partner due to resisting these two types, and the rain it brings can give Gliscor a much easier time checking Blaziken. Kyogre itself is also a huge threat to Gliscor, so a check to it such as Palkia or Water Arceus becomes even more useful. Gliscor can handle the standard Choice Scarf Zekrom on its own, but pairing it with a Fairy-type allows one to play around a Choice Band Zekrom's STAB moves—Klefki stands out as a partner because its Spikes pair well with Gliscor's Taunt. Having a Fairy-type also helps against Yveltal. Lastly, Gliscor is great on Sticky Web teams if it runs Taunt, as the entry hazard allows it to outspeed and Taunt support Arceus formes before they can use Defog.

Other Options
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Gliscor has a few other options. Knock Off and U-turn are great utility moves, but Gliscor will be hard pressed to find room for them on the main set. Gliscor's famous Substitute + Protect set can still be used, but it is less effective in XY Ubers than in BW Ubers due to the abundance of Taunt and Rest in addition to the new sleep mechanics. A Baton Pass set is also an option, as Gliscor has access to excellent boosting moves in Swords Dance and Agility. Such a set is generally done better by Scolipede or Blaziken, however.

Checks & Counters
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**Water- and Ice-types**: Kyogre, Palkia, and Kyurem-W easily OHKO Gliscor with their STAB moves, and the former two often carry Rest to deal with Toxic. Cloyster OHKOes Gliscor with Icicle Spear and removes Stealth Rock with Rapid Spin.

**Flying-types and Levitators**: Pokemon that are immune to Earthquake and have ways around Toxic are great answers to Gliscor. Offensive Yveltal blocks Toxic with Taunt and can hit Gliscor hard with its STAB moves. Gengar, Skarmory, and Bronzong completely wall Gliscor, although Taunt shuts down the latter two with the exception of Bronzong packing Hidden Power Ice.

**Arceus Formes**: Calm Mind + Refresh Arceus formes have no trouble against Gliscor, although they cannot continuously boost against Gliscor if it has Taunt. Similarly, Poison and Steel Arceus are immune to Toxic and don't take much damage from an uninvested Earthquake.

**Bulky Clerics**: Xerneas, Sylveon, and Blissey can cure themselves and their teammates of poison and deal damage to Gliscor with special attacks. Blissey needs Ice Beam to make an impact, though.

**Strong Special Attackers**: Most special attackers in Ubers are capable of OHKOing Gliscor. Examples of these include Deoxys-A and Reshiram.


Overview
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  • At a glance, Gliscor may seem like an inferior Stealth Rock setter in comparison to other Ground-types such as Landorus-T and Groudon due to its lower stats, but it has key niches in Poison Heal, Taunt, and Roost
  • These traits conveniently allow it to counter other Ground-types and check several other physically based threats such as Zekrom
  • Gliscor has the ability to mess up both offensive and defensive Pokemon thanks to its solid Defense stat as well as Taunt and an immunity to status


Stealth Rock
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name: Stealth Rock
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Taunt / Roost
move 3: Toxic
move 4: Earthquake
ability: Poison Heal
item: Toxic Orb
evs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
nature: Impish

Moves
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  • Stealth Rock is Stealth Rock
  • Taunt sets Gliscor apart from other Ground-types and is useful for stopping things like Defog, Stealth Rock, and Rest
  • Roost also differentiates Gliscor from other Ground-types and gives it ridiculous recovery alongside Poison Heal. It also lets Gliscor fare very well against Zekrom and Ho-Oh
  • Toxic is Gliscor's main method of dealing damage and is particularly helpful against support Arceus
  • Earthquake is Gliscor's mandatory STAB move and complements Toxic well

Set Details
========

  • A physically defensive spread allows Gliscor to effectively check Pokemon such as Zekrom and Groudon
  • Speed investment is viable, particularly if Taunt is used -- 44 EVs allow Gliscor to outspeed and Taunt uninvested Yveltal and Jirachi, as well as other base 99s and 100s
  • Toxic Orb activates Poison Heal

Usage Tips
========

  • Keep in mind that Toxic Orb doesn't activate until the end of the turn; don't let Gliscor get burned or put to sleep
  • Set up Stealth Rock ASAP, spread status with Toxic, use Taunt or Roost when the situation calls for it

Team Options
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  • In general, Gliscor requires little support, but good teammates for it are Pokemon that resist Water and Ice
  • Kyogre is a great partner as it resist these two types and the rain it brings lets Gliscor check Blaziken extremely well
  • Kyogre is also a huge threat to Gliscor itself, so a check to it like Palkia or Water Arceus makes a good teammate
  • Pairing Gliscor with a Fairy-type allows one to play around Zekrom -- Klefki stands out because its Spikes pair well with Gliscor's Taunt. Fairy-types also help against Yveltal
  • Sticky Web support is useful if running Taunt since it allows Gliscor to Taunt Arceus before it can use Defog


Other Options
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  • Knock Off
  • U-turn
  • Substitute
  • Protect
  • Baton Pass + Swords Dance/Agility


Checks & Counters
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**Water- and Ice-types**: Kyogre, Palkia, Kyurem-W, Cloyster

**Flying-types and Levitators**: Gengar, Yveltal, Skarmory, HP Ice Bronzong

**Arceus Formes**: CM + Refresh Arceus (Water, Dark, Fairy, etc.), Poison/Steel Arceus can handle uninvested Earthquakes

**Bulky Clerics**: Xerneas, Sylveon, Blissey
 
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"don't let Gliscor get burned or paralyzed" <--- change to put to sleep, glare zygarde is a secret set used only by Shrang and I =) (also Body Slam is obsolete in this metagame)

Since Taunt is the first slash, I feel this needs Speed investment. Maybe 44 Speed to outrun and Taunt defensive Yveltal and uninvested Tentacruel/Jirachi.

Gliscor hates random Air Balloon mons like Excadrill and Heatran but I doubt they are relevant enough in this meta to warrant a mention in Checks & Counters. Mention Shaymin-S as a check!!!

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Is a "Strong Special Attacks" tab worth a CC spot. Deoxys-A and Reshiram wipe Gliscor clean off the map with Blue Flare and Psycho Nuke respectively. Getting your Toxic Orb Knocked Off is also annoying but I don't see any realistic situations where this would happen (the ladder?). Reshiram lives Earthquake after Stealth Rock by the way.
Strong Special Attacks vs Gliscor:
  • 252 SpA Deoxys-A Psycho Boost vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Gliscor: 372-438 (105.3 - 124%) -- guaranteed OHKO
  • LO and LO Rash Deoxys destroy a Gliscor and a half
  • 252 SpA Life Orb Turboblaze Reshiram Blue Flare vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Gliscor: 390-460 (110.4 - 130.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
  • Draco does the same amount
Earthquake vs Reshiram:
  • 0 Atk Gliscor Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Reshiram: 206-246 (60.4 - 72.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
 
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Just a question, why isn't the annoying gliscor set (toxic,protect,sub,taunt/roost/equake) from last generation not even on the other options place. Why is it so bad this generation?
 
Just a question, why isn't the annoying gliscor set (toxic,protect,sub,taunt/roost/equake) from last generation not even on the other options place. Why is it so bad this generation?
It is mentioned in OO (albeit not very clearly, but when I actually write this I'll specifically mention it). The reason it doesn't have its own set (as of now, anyway) is mainly because things like Rest (with the new sleep mechanics) and Taunt are everywhere in Ubers this generation.

edit: Melee Mewtwo qc checked this, so i'm going to go ahead and move it into gp
 
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Overview
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At a glance, Gliscor may seems (may seem kinda implies the sentence will continue making the period kinda abrupt) like an inferior Stealth Rock setter in comparison to the more commonly seen Ground-types in Ubers, namely Landorus-T and Groudon. It has considerably lower stats than most Pokemon that are viable in the metagame, and it relies heavily on Toxic to deal significant damage. However, Gliscor has key niches in Poison Heal, Taunt, and Roost, which, in conjunction with its high Defense stat and great typing, allow it to counter opposing Ground-types as well as and check several other physically based threats including Zekrom and Blaziken. In fact, the combination of longevity, Taunt, and immunity to status leaves Gliscor very capable of taking on both offensive and defensive Pokemon effectively. Gliscor's role in Ubers has changed from the previous generation, but it is as viable as ever. (you didn't talk about its role in the last generation nor need to)


Stealth Rock
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name: Stealth Rock
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Taunt / Roost
move 3: Toxic
move 4: Earthquake
ability: Poison Heal
item: Toxic Orb
evs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
nature: Impish

Moves
========

Gliscor is a reliable user of Stealth Rock; it forces switches very often thanks to its typing and ability, giving it space to use the move. Taunt sets Gliscor apart from other Ground-types and is useful for stopping moves such as Defog, Rest, and Spikes. Roost also differentiates Gliscor from other Ground-types, and the ridiculous recovery it provides alongside Poison Heal lets Gliscor fare much better against strong physical attackers such as Zekrom and Ho-Oh (fare better than what?). Toxic is Gliscor's main method of dealing damage and is particularly useful against Arceus formes (which Arceus formes?, can i Toxic Normal Arceus effectively or do I risk it setting up and destroying me?). Earthquake is Gliscor's mandatory STAB move and complements Toxic well, hitting Poison- and Steel-types super effectively.

Set Details
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A physically bulky EV spread lets Gliscor check physical attackers to the best of its ability (any physical attackers in particular? are there certain attackers Gliscor needs to avoid? How well does he tank attacks compared to other defensive mons that'd make me consider it over them?), while a Toxic Orb activates Poison Heal. Speed investment is viable if Taunt is used&mdash;an investment of 44 EVs allows Gliscor to outspeed and Taunt Pokemon with an uninvested base 99 or 100 Speed, specifically defensive Yveltal and Jirachi.

Gliscor's EVs are very flexible in regards to Speed, and they can be tailored to make Gliscor outrun specific threats. For instance, 224 Speed EVs allow Gliscor to Taunt offensive Landorus-T before it can use Stealth Rock as well as outpace Pokemon with base 90 Speed and a neutral nature.

Usage Tips
========

Keep in mind that the Toxic Orb won't activate until the end of Gliscor's first turn out, and make sure that Gliscor is not burned, paralyzed, or put to sleep before it can be poisoned. With that said, it should be stressed that Gliscor's immunity to status can prove extremely valuable as countless defensive Pokemon have no way of dealing significant damage to it. This also allows Gliscor to function as a pivot of sorts, as it can absorb any status move and immediately switch out afterwards. On a separate note, make use of Gliscor's ability to keep Stealth Rock in play by using Taunt or Toxic on a predicted switch to a Defog user. Aside from this, Gliscor is a fairly simple Pokemon to use. It should set up Stealth Rock as quickly as it can, spread status with Toxic, and use its other moves when necessary.

Team Options
========

Good teammates for Gliscor are Pokemon that can cover its Water- and Ice-type weaknesses. Kyogre is a great partner due to resisting these two types, and the rain it brings can give Gliscor a much easier time checking Blaziken. Kyogre itself is also a huge threat to Gliscor, so a check to it such as Palkia or Water Arceus becomes even more useful. Pairing Gliscor with a Fairy-type allows one to play around Zekrom&mdash;Klefki stands out as a partner because its Spikes pair well with Gliscor's Taunt (How does having a Fairy let you play around Zekrom? Is Gliscor not bulky enough to tank the Dragon attacks?). Having a Fairy-type also helps against Yveltal. Lastly, Gliscor is great on Sticky Web teams if it runs Taunt, as the entry hazard allows it to outspeed and Taunt support Arceus formes before they can use Defog.

(What kind of team am I using Gliscor on? It's a purely defensive/support mon, am I using it on a defensive or balance team? Knowing this helps me better decide the kind of Kyogre I wanna pair it with, etc.)

Other Options
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Gliscor has a few other options. Knock Off and U-turn are great utility moves, but Gliscor will be hard pressed to find room for them on the main set. Gliscor's famous Substitute + Protect set can be used, but it is less effective in XY Ubers than in BW Ubers due to the abundance of Taunt and Rest in addition to the new sleep mechanics. A Baton Pass set is also an option, as Gliscor has access to excellent boosting moves in Swords Dance and Agility. (Why wouldn't I use BP then?)

Checks & Counters
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**Water- and Ice-types**: Kyogre, Palkia, and Kyurem-W easily OHKO Gliscor with their STAB moves, and the former two often carry Rest to deal with Toxic. Cloyster OHKOes Gliscor with Icicle Spear and removes Stealth Rock with Rapid Spin.

**Flying-types and Levitators**: Pokemon that are immune to Earthquake and have ways around Toxic are great answers to Gliscor. Offensive Yveltal blocks Toxic with Taunt and can hit Gliscor hard with its STAB moves. Gengar, Skarmory, and Bronzong completely wall Gliscor, although Taunt shuts down the latter two with the exception of Bronzong packing Hidden Power Ice.

**Arceus Formes**: Calm Mind + Refresh Arceus formes have no trouble against Gliscor, although they cannot continuously boost against Gliscor if it has Taunt. Similarly, Poison and Steel Arceus are immune to Toxic and don't take much damage from an uninvested Earthquake.

**Bulky Clerics**: Xerneas, Sylveon, and Blissey can cure themselves and their teammates of poison and deal damage to Gliscor with special attacks. Blissey needs Ice Beam to make an impact, though. to be able to deal significant damage to Gliscor.

**Strong Special Attackers**: Most special attackers in Ubers are capable of OHKOing Gliscor. Examples of these include Deoxys-A and Reshiram.


Your writing is very good Muk. I just want you to delve a little bit deeper in your writing. None of the comments I made require more than a sentence each, but adding them adds a whole new level of depth to your analysis than the shallow "this is Gliscor, he's cool and kinda usable I guess" that you currently have.

Keep up the good work regardless, I didn't have to actually change much of anything. 9.9

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Overview
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At a glance, Gliscor seems like an inferior Stealth Rock setter in comparison to the more commonly seen Ground-types in Ubers, namely Landorus-T and Groudon. It has considerably lower stats than most Pokemon that are viable in the metagame, and it relies heavily on Toxic to deal a significant amount damage. However, Gliscor has key niches in Poison Heal, Taunt, and Roost, which, in conjunction with its high Defense stat and great typing, allow it to counter opposing Ground-types and check several other physically based threats including Zekrom and Blaziken. In fact, the combination of longevity, Taunt, and immunity to status leaves Gliscor very capable of taking on both offensive and defensive Pokemon effectively.


Stealth Rock
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name: Stealth Rock
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Taunt / Roost
move 3: Toxic
move 4: Earthquake
ability: Poison Heal
item: Toxic Orb
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
nature: Impish

Moves
========

Gliscor is a reliable user of Stealth Rock; it forces switches very often thanks to its typing and ability, giving it space many opportunities to use the move. Taunt sets Gliscor apart from other Ground-types and is useful for stopping moves such as Defog, Rest, and Spikes. Roost also differentiates Gliscor from other Ground-types, and the ridiculous recovery it provides alongside Poison Heal lets Gliscor fare extremely well against strong physical attackers such as Zekrom and Ho-Oh. Toxic is Gliscor's main method of dealing damage and is particularly useful against support Arceus formes, which often carry Defog. Earthquake is Gliscor's mandatory STAB move and complements Toxic well, hitting Poison- and Steel-types super effectively.

Set Details
========

A physically bulky EV spread lets Gliscor check physical attackers,(AC) such as Ground Arceus, Excadrill, Lucario, and Mega Mewtwo X,(AC) to the best of its ability, though it needs to watch out for surprise Ice-type moves. A Toxic Orb is used to activate Poison Heal; with the extra recovery the ability provides over Leftovers, Gliscor's physical walling capabilities approach those of Groudon. Speed investment is viable if Taunt is used&mdash;an investment of 44 EVs allows Gliscor to outspeed and Taunt Pokemon with an uninvested base 99 or 100 Speed, specifically defensive Yveltal and Jirachi.

Gliscor's EVs are very flexible in regards to Speed, and they can be tailored to make Gliscor outrun specific threats. For instance, 224 Speed EVs allow Gliscor to Taunt offensive Landorus-T before it can use Stealth Rock as well as outpace Pokemon with base 90 Speed and a neutral nature.

Usage Tips
========

Keep in mind that the Toxic Orb won't activate until the end of Gliscor's first turn out, and so make sure that Gliscor is not burned, paralyzed, or put to sleep before it can be poisoned. With that said, it should be stressed that Gliscor's immunity to status can prove invaluable as countless defensive Pokemon have no way of dealing significant damage to it. This also allows Gliscor to function as a pivot of sorts, as it can absorb any status move and immediately switch out afterwards. On a separate note, make use of Gliscor's ability to keep Stealth Rock in play by using Taunt or Toxic on a predicted switch to a Defog user. Aside from this, Gliscor is a fairly simple Pokemon to use. It should set up Stealth Rock as quickly as it can, spread status with Toxic, and use its other moves when necessary.

Team Options
========

Gliscor excels on balanced and defensively oriented teams, where good teammates for it are Pokemon that can cover its Water- and Ice-type weaknesses. Kyogre is a great partner due to resisting these two types, and the rain it brings can give Gliscor a much easier time checking Blaziken. Kyogre itself is also a huge threat to Gliscor, so a check to it such as Palkia or Water Arceus becomes even more useful. Gliscor can handle the standard Choice Scarf Zekrom on its own, but pairing it with a Fairy-type allows one to play around a Choice Band Zekrom's STAB moves&mdash;Klefki stands out as a partner because its Spikes pair well with Gliscor's Taunt. Having a Fairy-type also helps against Yveltal. Lastly, Gliscor is great on Sticky Web teams if it runs Taunt, as the entry hazard allows it to outspeed and Taunt support Arceus formes before they can use Defog.

Other Options
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Gliscor has a few other options. Knock Off and U-turn are great utility moves, but Gliscor will be hard pressed to find room for them on the main set. Gliscor's famous Substitute + Protect set can still be used, but it is less effective in XY Ubers than in BW Ubers due to the abundance of Taunt and Rest in addition to the new sleep mechanics. A Baton Pass set is also an option, as Gliscor has access to excellent boosting moves in Swords Dance and Agility. Such a set is generally done better by Scolipede or Blaziken, however.

Checks & Counters
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**Water- and Ice-types**: Kyogre, Palkia, and Kyurem-W easily OHKO Gliscor with their STAB moves, and the former two often carry Rest to deal with Toxic. Cloyster OHKOes Gliscor with Icicle Spear and removes Stealth Rock with Rapid Spin.

**Flying-types and Levitators**: Pokemon that are immune to Earthquake and have ways around Toxic are great answers to Gliscor. Offensive Yveltal blocks Toxic with Taunt and can hit Gliscor hard with its STAB moves. Gengar, Skarmory, and Bronzong completely wall Gliscor, although Taunt shuts down the latter two with the exception of Bronzong packing Hidden Power Ice.

**Arceus Formes**: Calm Mind + Refresh Arceus formes have no trouble against Gliscor, although they cannot continuously boost against Gliscor if it has Taunt. Similarly, Poison and Steel Arceus are immune to Toxic and don't take much damage from an uninvested Earthquake.

**Bulky Clerics**: Xerneas, Sylveon, and Blissey can cure themselves and their teammates of poison and deal damage to Gliscor with special attacks. Blissey needs Ice Beam to make an impact, though.

**Strong Special Attackers**: Most special attackers in Ubers are capable of OHKOing Gliscor. Examples of these include Deoxys-A and Reshiram.
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