Approved by AM
Format Stolen From DarkNostalgia
Editing by DarkNostalgia and Teeny Victory
Original Thread and permission given by @Aragon the King
Base Stats
70 HP / 55 ATK / 95 DEF / 95 SPATK / 110 SPDEF / 65 SPD
Total: 490
Abilities
Frisk On switch-in, this Pokemon identifies the held items of all opposing Pokemon.
Competitive - This Pokemon's Sp. Atk is raised by 2 for each of its stats that is lowered by a foe.
Shadow Tag (Hidden) - Prevents adjacent foes from choosing to switch unless they also have this Ability.
Notable Moves
(Stab moves In BOLD blue)
Starry skies thousands of light-years away are visible in the space distorted by their intense psychic power. They can predict the future from the placement and movement of the stars. They can see Trainers' life spans.
Analysis:
Long the despised bane of stall players everywhere, Gothitelle is arguably the most hated Pokemon in the tier and for good reason. Even with new threats in ORAS such as Mega Sableye and the rise of Scarf Tyranitar, she is arguably the most reliable trapper in OU and far from the underrated threat she was in early XY. Able to pick apart defensive and bulky cores with ease thanks to her rare and coveted ability in Shadow Tag, in addition to a decent movepool that includes Trick, short of Ghost-types and Shed Shell users, Gothitelle can be tailored to trap pretty much any Pokemon you desire while looking cute in the process. Anything from Ferrothorn, Venusuar, Skarmory to opposing bulky Psychics can be nuked with the right move and Choice Item. Even Chansey and bulky Fairies can be permanently crippled with trick if you cannot power through them. Basically nothing can break stall like Gothitelle and even outside this role she still has use in revenging the likes of Lopunny or depending on the team utilising support moves such as Trick Room and Heal Bell.
However she suffers numerous flaws including an extreme, sometimes exploitable reliance on Choice items to do her job and is therefore dead weight without them. Her Psychic typing is both a blessing and a curse which while letting her check Fighting-types as well as throw around a decent stab, but leaves her vulnerable to common Dark- and Bug-type moves such as Knock Off, Pursuit and U-turn. Her lack of speed even with a Scarf leaves her easily revenged and unable to beat many offensive Pokemon and even with coverage struggles against Darks.
MoveSets
Bulky Specs
Gothitelle @ Choice Specs
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 168 HP / 252 SpA / 88 Spe
Modest Nature
- Trick
- Psychic / Psyshock
- Hidden Power [Fire] / Hidden Power [Ice] / Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt / Grass Knot
The more common and Tailorable of Gothitelles main sets. Equipped with Choice Specs, this Set takes advantage of Gothitelle's decent Bulk to let her come in safely on a variety of threats before OHKOing or 2HKOing with the right coverage move. Psychic is the preferred STAB gaining maximum benefit from Specs while Psyshock is an option to get past Calm Minders and specially defensive Pokemon. Hidden Power Fire beats steels such as Ferrothorn, though HP Ice is viable for Dragons and Gliscor. Thunderbolt nails Flying-types and bulky waters whilst energy ball nails Hippo and rotom. Finally shadow ball hits Psychics such as Jirachi and Mew.
88 Speed outpace's minimum speed Mega Scizor and relavant defensive pokemon as well as cover Hidden power fire. Special attack is maxed for largest maximum specs boost while the remaining EVs are dumped into bulk avoiding a 3hko from Seismic toss and an OHKO from Specs Keldeo Hydro pump at full health. You can creep speed up to 144 EVs to outpace 0 speed rest talk gyrados and Standard offensive venusuar or 208 to outpace crocune but doing so comes at the expense of bulk.
Literally Satan
Gothitelle @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 80 HP / 176 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Trick
- Psychic / Psyshock
- Calm Mind / Hidden Power [Fire]
- Rest
This set is the reason why Goth is hated so much and as the name states is literally satan. Though it is harder to use then specs the results are often far more spectacular since when played right can completely destroy opposing Stall teams while putting in some work vs Offense. Acting as both a revenge killer and a means to cripple stall, the idea is to come in on something that cant harm her like Skarmory. Trick lock it and then either Rest-Stall it till the Choice-locked Pokemon dies or Calm mind till you can attempt to sweep. Alternatively Hidden Power Fire can let you revenge steels if you choose to forgo Calm mind for a more revenge orientated set.
80 HP Evs avoid 3hkos from Seismic Toss while the Timid nature and maxed out speed let her Outpace 120s such as Dugtrio and Tornadus-T. The rest is invested into special attack for maximum firepower.
Team Options:
Gothitelle benefits hugely from volt-turn-pass support as it lets the user scout for double switches, random knock off users and annoying shed shells before bringing her in safely for the kill. In addition she appreciates Pokemon that can deal with Dark-types such as Bisharp. Thus, Pokemon such as Lopunny, Scizor, Rotom, Manetric, Landorous-T and Victini make for great partners. In addition, Fairy-types like Clefable and Azumarill who appreciate goths ability to remove bulky steel- or poison-types make good partners, and in turn they deal with the Dark-types Gothitelle hates. Finally if you really want to be hated, partner her with Manaphy and watch stall melt, as Manaphy appreciates Gothitelle's ability to deal with Amoonguss, Mega Venusaur and Ferrothorn.
Checks and Counters:
The omnipresence of U-turn does Gothitelle no favours and pretty much anything with access to Pursuit can hard check Gothitelle if she cant power through their users. In addition, Dark-types in general such as Bisharp and Tyranitar check her while Bug-types such as Volcarona also win if Stealth Rock aren't up so having answers to these are a must.
Other Options:
Gothitelle can pull off a scarfed revenge set that utilise's tools such as foul play to finish set up sweepers such as Mega Gallade and Lati@s, though its usually outclassed by Choice Scarf Tyranitar. In addition she makes for a great trick room setter thanks to shadow tag though trickroom itself is highly niche. Finally move's like Heal Bell, Thunder Wave, and Charm have there use's on more utility orientated sets but are rather team depandant.
She can also use an expert belt set that feins choice and lures in would be revenge killers/set up mons but loses some stallbreaking capacity in the process and is generally inferior to choice/trick but is useful on select teams
Conclusion:
Overall despite her dark weakness and issues with move's like Knock off Gothitelle continues's to be a threat and a hated pokemon that see's players regularly reaching for shed shell's. Her flaws can be mitigated through Volt-Turn, and Baton pass support or fairy partners and regardless of stalls usage Gothitelle will always find something that can be trapped. Aregubly she is the best trapper in OU and will remain so for the immeadite future.
First OU thread guys please excuse any mistakes. Feel free to post and comment
Shout outs for 100th post
Format Stolen From DarkNostalgia
Editing by DarkNostalgia and Teeny Victory
Original Thread and permission given by @Aragon the King
Base Stats
70 HP / 55 ATK / 95 DEF / 95 SPATK / 110 SPDEF / 65 SPD
Total: 490
Abilities
Frisk On switch-in, this Pokemon identifies the held items of all opposing Pokemon.
Competitive - This Pokemon's Sp. Atk is raised by 2 for each of its stats that is lowered by a foe.
Shadow Tag (Hidden) - Prevents adjacent foes from choosing to switch unless they also have this Ability.
Notable Moves
(Stab moves In BOLD blue)
- Calm Mind
- Charm
- Dark Pulse (Transfer Only)
- Energy Ball
- Foul Play
- Grass Knot
- Heal Bell
- Light Screen
- Psychic
- Psyshock
- Reflect
- Shadow Ball
- Signal Beam
- Taunt
- Thunder Wave
- Thunder Bolt
- Trick
- Trick Room
Starry skies thousands of light-years away are visible in the space distorted by their intense psychic power. They can predict the future from the placement and movement of the stars. They can see Trainers' life spans.
Analysis:
Long the despised bane of stall players everywhere, Gothitelle is arguably the most hated Pokemon in the tier and for good reason. Even with new threats in ORAS such as Mega Sableye and the rise of Scarf Tyranitar, she is arguably the most reliable trapper in OU and far from the underrated threat she was in early XY. Able to pick apart defensive and bulky cores with ease thanks to her rare and coveted ability in Shadow Tag, in addition to a decent movepool that includes Trick, short of Ghost-types and Shed Shell users, Gothitelle can be tailored to trap pretty much any Pokemon you desire while looking cute in the process. Anything from Ferrothorn, Venusuar, Skarmory to opposing bulky Psychics can be nuked with the right move and Choice Item. Even Chansey and bulky Fairies can be permanently crippled with trick if you cannot power through them. Basically nothing can break stall like Gothitelle and even outside this role she still has use in revenging the likes of Lopunny or depending on the team utilising support moves such as Trick Room and Heal Bell.
However she suffers numerous flaws including an extreme, sometimes exploitable reliance on Choice items to do her job and is therefore dead weight without them. Her Psychic typing is both a blessing and a curse which while letting her check Fighting-types as well as throw around a decent stab, but leaves her vulnerable to common Dark- and Bug-type moves such as Knock Off, Pursuit and U-turn. Her lack of speed even with a Scarf leaves her easily revenged and unable to beat many offensive Pokemon and even with coverage struggles against Darks.
MoveSets
Bulky Specs
Gothitelle @ Choice Specs
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 168 HP / 252 SpA / 88 Spe
Modest Nature
- Trick
- Psychic / Psyshock
- Hidden Power [Fire] / Hidden Power [Ice] / Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt / Grass Knot
The more common and Tailorable of Gothitelles main sets. Equipped with Choice Specs, this Set takes advantage of Gothitelle's decent Bulk to let her come in safely on a variety of threats before OHKOing or 2HKOing with the right coverage move. Psychic is the preferred STAB gaining maximum benefit from Specs while Psyshock is an option to get past Calm Minders and specially defensive Pokemon. Hidden Power Fire beats steels such as Ferrothorn, though HP Ice is viable for Dragons and Gliscor. Thunderbolt nails Flying-types and bulky waters whilst energy ball nails Hippo and rotom. Finally shadow ball hits Psychics such as Jirachi and Mew.
88 Speed outpace's minimum speed Mega Scizor and relavant defensive pokemon as well as cover Hidden power fire. Special attack is maxed for largest maximum specs boost while the remaining EVs are dumped into bulk avoiding a 3hko from Seismic toss and an OHKO from Specs Keldeo Hydro pump at full health. You can creep speed up to 144 EVs to outpace 0 speed rest talk gyrados and Standard offensive venusuar or 208 to outpace crocune but doing so comes at the expense of bulk.
Literally Satan
Gothitelle @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 80 HP / 176 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Trick
- Psychic / Psyshock
- Calm Mind / Hidden Power [Fire]
- Rest
This set is the reason why Goth is hated so much and as the name states is literally satan. Though it is harder to use then specs the results are often far more spectacular since when played right can completely destroy opposing Stall teams while putting in some work vs Offense. Acting as both a revenge killer and a means to cripple stall, the idea is to come in on something that cant harm her like Skarmory. Trick lock it and then either Rest-Stall it till the Choice-locked Pokemon dies or Calm mind till you can attempt to sweep. Alternatively Hidden Power Fire can let you revenge steels if you choose to forgo Calm mind for a more revenge orientated set.
80 HP Evs avoid 3hkos from Seismic Toss while the Timid nature and maxed out speed let her Outpace 120s such as Dugtrio and Tornadus-T. The rest is invested into special attack for maximum firepower.
Team Options:
Gothitelle benefits hugely from volt-turn-pass support as it lets the user scout for double switches, random knock off users and annoying shed shells before bringing her in safely for the kill. In addition she appreciates Pokemon that can deal with Dark-types such as Bisharp. Thus, Pokemon such as Lopunny, Scizor, Rotom, Manetric, Landorous-T and Victini make for great partners. In addition, Fairy-types like Clefable and Azumarill who appreciate goths ability to remove bulky steel- or poison-types make good partners, and in turn they deal with the Dark-types Gothitelle hates. Finally if you really want to be hated, partner her with Manaphy and watch stall melt, as Manaphy appreciates Gothitelle's ability to deal with Amoonguss, Mega Venusaur and Ferrothorn.
Checks and Counters:
The omnipresence of U-turn does Gothitelle no favours and pretty much anything with access to Pursuit can hard check Gothitelle if she cant power through their users. In addition, Dark-types in general such as Bisharp and Tyranitar check her while Bug-types such as Volcarona also win if Stealth Rock aren't up so having answers to these are a must.
Other Options:
Gothitelle can pull off a scarfed revenge set that utilise's tools such as foul play to finish set up sweepers such as Mega Gallade and Lati@s, though its usually outclassed by Choice Scarf Tyranitar. In addition she makes for a great trick room setter thanks to shadow tag though trickroom itself is highly niche. Finally move's like Heal Bell, Thunder Wave, and Charm have there use's on more utility orientated sets but are rather team depandant.
She can also use an expert belt set that feins choice and lures in would be revenge killers/set up mons but loses some stallbreaking capacity in the process and is generally inferior to choice/trick but is useful on select teams
Conclusion:
Overall despite her dark weakness and issues with move's like Knock off Gothitelle continues's to be a threat and a hated pokemon that see's players regularly reaching for shed shell's. Her flaws can be mitigated through Volt-Turn, and Baton pass support or fairy partners and regardless of stalls usage Gothitelle will always find something that can be trapped. Aregubly she is the best trapper in OU and will remain so for the immeadite future.
First OU thread guys please excuse any mistakes. Feel free to post and comment
Shout outs for 100th post
AM - Cool Mod, thanks for letting me do this thread
Aragorn the King - Original thread owner nice guy
DarkNostalgia - Great friend here on showdown, likes his dark types and hates my fairies
Teeny Victory - Downright awesome guy and friend
Klobb - Dont see you much anymore but your cool to
ThePack - Dont know you but good name lol
Ende - Another cool guy, Where have you gone
Ransei - Yes I did create chaos
Aragorn the King - Original thread owner nice guy
DarkNostalgia - Great friend here on showdown, likes his dark types and hates my fairies
Teeny Victory - Downright awesome guy and friend
Klobb - Dont see you much anymore but your cool to
ThePack - Dont know you but good name lol
Ende - Another cool guy, Where have you gone
Ransei - Yes I did create chaos
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