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Fool me...can't get fooled again
Overview
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Gourgeist-S has great Speed for a physical wall, allowing it to outspeed and burn opposing physical Pokemon such as Basculin, Poliwrath, and Sawsbuck. It has a fantastic utility movepool including Leech Seed, Will-O-Wisp, Substitute, and Disable. Its ability, Frisk, allows it to scout opponents' items. It has a good defensive typing that grants it many useful resistances to common types such as Electric, Water, Grass, and Ground. Its typing also gives Gourgeist-S an immunity to Fighting- and Normal-type moves. This allows it to effectively wall Pokemon such as Barbaracle, Basculin, Gogoat, Sawsbuck, and Tauros. All of these traits make it one of the best defensive spinblockers in the tier. However Gourgeist-S has difficulty with Grass- and Fire-types.
SubSeed
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name: SubSeed
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Will-O-Wisp
move 4: Rock Slide / Disable
ability: Frisk
item: Leftovers
evs: 152 HP / 104 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Jolly / Timid
Moves
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Substitute is used to protect against weaker attacks and status, and can also be used to scout for what an opponent wants to do. Gourgeist-S can set up Substitutes on the various Pokemon it walls, allowing it to use Leech Seed on or burn the switch-in, wearing it down, especially if Gourgeist-S is faster and can continually set up Substitutes. Leech Seed is used for extra recovery, allowing Gourgeist-S to set up more Substitutes, and Will-O-Wisp is used to cripple physical attackers such as Barbaracle, Tauros, and Marowak and to provide residual damage on common switch-ins such as Grass-, Ice-, and Flying-types. Rock Slide is used to hit common Fire- and Flying-types, which like to switch into Gourgeist-S, from behind the safety of a Substitute. Disable can be used instead of Rock Slide to stall by disabling super effective moves. Phantom Force can be used to get an extra turn of Leech Seed and Leftovers recovery.
Set Details
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Maximum Speed investment is used so that Gourgeist-S can outspeed max Speed base 95s, such as Frogadier, Swanna, and Basculin. The HP EVs allow Gourgeist-S to get as much HP from Leech Seed and Leftovers as possible, and the rest are put in Defense for added bulk. Frisk is used to scout an opponent's item, letting you see Choice items and other less obvious items, giving insight into the opponent's set. Leftovers is used for increased longevity allowing Gourgeist-S to set up multiple Substitutes.
Usage Tips
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Be wary of switching into a Scald, because while resisted, burn limits the number of Substitutes Gourgeist-S can set up. Set up Substitutes on status users or Pokemon with resisted STAB attacks. After setting up Substitute, use Leech Seed on and then burn specially based Pokemon, and do the reverse on physically based Pokemon. Setting up a Substitute when the opponent has a Grass-type is not the best idea as it only wastes precious health which can be difficult to recover without the help of Leech Seed. If Gourgeist-S is running Disable, first use Substitute to see what move the opponent will go for to hurt Gourgeist-S, then Disable the move and Substitute again to see if they carry any coverage moves. Be wary of switching into Fighting-type Pokemon, as they like to carry Knock Off, which also limits the number of Substitutes that Gourgeist-S can create and removes its Leftovers.
Team Options
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Toxic Spikes users such as Garbodor and Roselia are useful teammates, as the Toxic damage coupled with Leech Seed can rack up quickly, Garbodor can also switch into Grass-types quite easily. They are also useful because they can absorb Toxic Spikes on your side of the field, which can be detrimental to Gourgeist-S, while Gourgeist-S provides spinblocking support. Entry hazard users in general, such as Golem and Stunfisk, make good teammates, as Gourgeist-S forces a lot of switches and hazard damage racks up quickly. Lickilicky is a good teammate as it can provide Wish and Heal Bell support to Gourgeist-S, while Gourgeist-S can provide a switch-in to Fighting-type attacks. Pokemon that resist Dark, such as Poliwrath and Throh, are good teammates to take moves such as Knock Off. A Fire / Water / Grass core can be created with Gourgeist-S using Fire-types such as Camerupt and Heatmor as well as Water-types such as Poliwrath and Mantine, as they can take care of each other's weaknesses.
Other Options
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Shadow Sneak can be used as a form of priority; however, Gourgeist-S struggles to find room for it. Protect can be used over Substitute to scout for moves; however, the utility Substitute provides is much better. Seed Bomb or Bullet Seed can be used over one of the suggested attacking moves above; however, Rock Slide provides better coverage and Phantom Force provides extra turns of Leech Seed recovery. Pain Split can be used to get back more health for Gourgeist-S, but it is not reliable. Toxic can be used over Will-O-Wisp as a quicker way to wear down opposing Pokemon; however, the utility Will-O-Wisp provides is much better. An offensive Gourgeist-S can be used, but it isn't very strong.
Checks & Counters
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**Offensive Typing Advantage**: Fire-types such as Ninetales, Heatmor, and Flareon threaten Gourgeist-S out with their powerful Fire-type moves. They are also immune to Will-O-Wisp, and some of them, such as the aforementioned Pokemon, even get a Flash Fire boost from it. A Fire-type's best way to switch in is on a predicted Will-O-Wisp; however, Fire-types have to be wary of switching into a super effective Rock Slide. Ice-type Pokemon such as Aurorus, Rotom-Frost, Glaceon, and Articuno threaten Gourgeist-S out with powerful Ice-type moves. While Ice-types struggle to switch in, if they come in on a Will-O-Wisp or a Leech Seed they can threaten out Gourgeist-S with an Ice Beam, but if they switch in on a Gourgeist-S with Substitute up then they will be hit by a super effective Rock Slide. Articuno has to be especially wary of Rock Slide as it is 4x weak to Rock. Flying-types such as Dodrio, Chatot, and Mantine threaten Gourgeist-S out with their super effective STAB Flying-type moves. Chatot gets a specific mention as it has a super effective sound-based move Chatter, which can hit through Substitutes and seriously injure Gourgeist-S. However, Flying-types have to be wary of switching into a super effective Rock Slide.
**Grass-types**: Substitute-using Grass-types such as Serperior and Tropius are immune to Leech Seed and can set up on Gourgeist-S, Serperior can outspeed Gourgeist-S and block Will-O-Wisp with Substitute, while Tropius can carry Lum Berry with Harvest to rid itself of burn.
**Knock Off**: Knock Off is detrimental to Gourgeist-S as it is super effective, removes Gourgeist-S's Leftovers, and can limit the number of Substitutes it can make. Gourgeist-S has to be wary of switching in and trying to wall Pokemon such as Sneasel, Throh, and Marowak that commonly carry Knock Off.
**Status**: Status such as Toxic, Toxic Spikes, and Scald burns can limit the number of Substitutes Gourgeist-S can make. Gourgeist-S likes to switch in on common defensive Pokemon such as Lumineon, Poliwrath, Bastiodon, and Defensive Carracosta to try and get up a free Substitute; however, the aforementioned Pokemon commonly like to carry Toxic, and they can cripple Gourgeist-S by poisoning it on the switch. Gourgeist-S should be wary of switching into Thunder Wave from Pokemon it's trying to wall, such as Stunfisk and Luxray. If Gourgeist-S gets paralyzed then it loses one of its biggest assets, its Speed. Gourgeist-S relies on its ability to outspeed opposing Pokemon to get off a Leech Seed and set up Substitutes.
**Taunt**: Taunt users such as Misdreavus and Vigoroth can shut down Gourgeist-S, stopping it from using Leech Seed and Will-O-Wisp, but they struggle to switch in, some of them are outsped, and risk getting statused first.
**Substitute**: Substitute can completely block status and Leech Seed and allows other bulky Pokemon to set up on Gourgeist-S. Bouffalant with a Substitute up can set up on Gourgeist-S, as Rock Slide does minimal damage and Bouffalant is immune to Seed Bomb and Phantom Force.
Overview
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SubSeed
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name: SubSeed
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Will-O-Wisp
move 4: Rock Slide / Disable
ability: Frisk
item: Leftovers
evs: 152 HP / 104 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Jolly / Timid
Moves
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Set Details
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Usage Tips
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Team Options
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Other Options
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Checks & Counters
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**Status**: Status such as Toxic or Will-O-Wisp can limit the amount of Substitutes Gourgeist-S can make, while Thunder Wave can cripple its speed.
**Knock Off**: Moves such as Knock Off can limit the amount of Substitutes that Gourgeist-S can make
**Flying-Types**: Flying-types such as Dodrio and Mantine threaten Gourgeist-S out with a super effective Flying move
**Grass-Types**: Pokemon such as Victreebel and Serperior are immune to Leech Seed and can setup on Gourgeist-S
**Fire-Types**: Fire-types such as Ninetales or Flareon threaten Gourgeist-S out with a powerful Fire move, they are also immune to Will-O-Wisp and some of them get a Flash Fire boost
**Substitute**: Substitute can completely block status and Leech Seed and allows other bulky Pokemon to set up on Gourgeist-S. Speficially Bouffalant which if it subs on the switch then it can setup all over Gourgeist-S as Rock Slide does minimal damage and is immune to Seed Bomb (Sap Sipper) and Phantom Force.
**Ice-Types**: Ice-type Pokemon such as Aurorus or Aritcuno threaten out Gourgeist-S with a powerful Ice move
**Taunt**: Taunt users such as Misdreavus or Vigoroth can shut down Gourgeist-S almost completely
**Chatot**: Chatot's Chatter can go through Substitute and seriously injure Gourgeist-S, while Chatot also carries Encore and Substitute
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- Great Speed for a physical wall
- Fantastic utility options in Leech Seed, Will-O-Wisp, Substitute, and Disable
- Good typing, grants useful resistances
- Good Spin Blocker
- Ability lets it scout items on opposing teams
- Difficulty with Grass- and Fire-types
SubSeed
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name: SubSeed
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Will-O-Wisp
move 4: Rock Slide / Disable
ability: Frisk
item: Leftovers
evs: 152 HP / 104 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Jolly / Timid
Moves
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- Substitute to protect against attacks and status
- Leech Seed for extra recovery
- Will-O-Wisp to cripple physical attackers
- Rock Slide for extra flinch and to hit Fire- and Flying-types who commonly like to switch into Gourgeist-S
- Disable to disable super effective attacking moves
- Protect to scout for attacks, to scout for something to disable, to get increased leech seed recovery
- Phantom Force to get increased Leech Seed and Leftovers recovery.
Set Details
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- Max Speed is so that Gourgeist-S can outspeed max invested base 95s and Frogadier, Swanna, and Basculin, HP EVs are to get as much from Leech Seed and Leftovers as possible, the rest are put into Defense for added bulk
- Frisk to see an enemies item
- Leftovers for increased longevity
Usage Tips
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- Be wary of switching in on Scalds, because while resisted, having a burned Gourgeist-S limits the amount of Substitutes it can setup.
- Setup Substitutes on Pokemon that will either try and status you or who you resist their STAB attack. After setting up Substitute either setup up Leech Seed on specially based pokemon and then burn them or do the reverse on physically based pokemon.
- If you are using Disable, Substitute to see what move the opponent will try and go for to hurt you, then Disable the move and Substitute again to see if they have another coverage move.
- Be wary of switching into Fighting-type pokemon as they like to carry Knock Off which can limit the amount of Substitutes that Gourgeist-S can create.
Team Options
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- Toxic Spike users such as Garbodor and Roselia are useful teammates as the Toxic damage coupled with Leech Seed can rack up quickly, they are also useful because they can absorb opposing Toxic Spikes which can be detrimental to Gourgeist-S.
- Entry hazard users such Golem, Stunfisk, and Glalie make good teammates as Gourgeist-S forces a lot of switches and hazard damage racks up quickly.
- Lickilicky is a good teammate as it can provide Wish and Heal Bell support to Gourgeist-S, while Gourgeist-S can provide a switch in to Fighting-type attacks
- Pokemon that resist Dark-type attacks such as Poliwrath and Throh are good teammates to take moves such as Knock Off
- A Fire, Water, Grass core can be created with Gourgeist-S. Fire-types such as Camerupt and Heatmor, Water-types such as Poliwrath and Mantine, make good teammates
Other Options
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- Shadow Sneak
- Seed Bomb / Bullet Seed
- Pain Split
- Toxic
- Offensive Variant
Checks & Counters
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**Status**: Status such as Toxic or Will-O-Wisp can limit the amount of Substitutes Gourgeist-S can make, while Thunder Wave can cripple its speed.
**Knock Off**: Moves such as Knock Off can limit the amount of Substitutes that Gourgeist-S can make
**Flying-Types**: Flying-types such as Dodrio and Mantine threaten Gourgeist-S out with a super effective Flying move
**Grass-Types**: Pokemon such as Victreebel and Serperior are immune to Leech Seed and can setup on Gourgeist-S
**Fire-Types**: Fire-types such as Ninetales or Flareon threaten Gourgeist-S out with a powerful Fire move, they are also immune to Will-O-Wisp and some of them get a Flash Fire boost
**Substitute**: Substitute can completely block status and Leech Seed and allows other bulky Pokemon to set up on Gourgeist-S. Speficially Bouffalant which if it subs on the switch then it can setup all over Gourgeist-S as Rock Slide does minimal damage and is immune to Seed Bomb (Sap Sipper) and Phantom Force.
**Ice-Types**: Ice-type Pokemon such as Aurorus or Aritcuno threaten out Gourgeist-S with a powerful Ice move
**Taunt**: Taunt users such as Misdreavus or Vigoroth can shut down Gourgeist-S almost completely
**Chatot**: Chatot's Chatter can go through Substitute and seriously injure Gourgeist-S, while Chatot also carries Encore and Substitute
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