Isn't that OMotM? (O did this month just happen to be a throwback idea)
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Hackmons XY
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No, it's a different system that's similar to OMotM but is different in what you vote for. Click the link for more info.
In hackmons, pokemon may start out as megas, they may have any more and any ability, while in ubers they must have their designated moves and abilities.
I worded it wrong whats the different between balanced hackmons and ubers
Almost all moves are allowed in BH, and almost any ability, you might want to check out the Balanced Hackmons thread for tips about BH
Giratina @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 251 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: null Atk
- Curse
- Heal Order
- Substitute
- Baton Pass
Gengar-Mega @ Spooky Plate
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Judgment
- Spore
- Shell Smash
- Secret Sword
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 251 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: null Atk
- Curse
- Heal Order
- Substitute
- Baton Pass
Gengar-Mega @ Spooky Plate
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Judgment
- Spore
- Shell Smash
- Secret Sword
What about them?
I suppose classic hackmons revolving around Wonder Guard, can be used as an argument that too few strategies are viable to need a ladder.
In that case I'd gauge community interest for unrated.
There's countless strategies in Hackmons. Probably more than any other tier combined because of the variability in combinations for teams. Literally any pokemon can have any item, move, and ability.
Well it's just a theory. I was trying to look at the issue from a point of view less likely to draw controversy.
When the change to hackmons was released, I noticed that teambuilding and the whole meta would change. I did my best to make a team which i think is half decent.
Aegislash @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 4 Def / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Serious Nature
- Substitute
- Parting Shot
- Heal Order
- Destiny Bond
Landorus (M) @ Icicle Plate
Ability: Wonder Guard
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Judgment
- Moonblast
- Magic Coat
- Thunder Wave
Giratina @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
- Substitute
- Baton Pass
- Curse
- Heal Order
Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Imposter
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Skill Swap
- Magic Coat
- Parting Shot
- King's Shield
Spiritomb (F) @ Flame Orb
Ability: Wonder Guard
Level: 2
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 212 HP / 84 Def / 212 SpD
Calm Nature
- Magic Coat
- Pain Split
- Curse
- Psycho Shift
Yveltal @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Iron Head
- Thousand Arrows
- Knock Off
- Play Rough
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 4 Def / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Serious Nature
- Substitute
- Parting Shot
- Heal Order
- Destiny Bond
Landorus (M) @ Icicle Plate
Ability: Wonder Guard
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Judgment
- Moonblast
- Magic Coat
- Thunder Wave
Giratina @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
- Substitute
- Baton Pass
- Curse
- Heal Order
Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Imposter
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Skill Swap
- Magic Coat
- Parting Shot
- King's Shield
Spiritomb (F) @ Flame Orb
Ability: Wonder Guard
Level: 2
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 212 HP / 84 Def / 212 SpD
Calm Nature
- Magic Coat
- Pain Split
- Curse
- Psycho Shift
Yveltal @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Iron Head
- Thousand Arrows
- Knock Off
- Play Rough
lando gets trapped kinda easy
also substitute on aegilash is pointless imo if you dont have curse or baton pass
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I've used Wonder Guard Landorus before, and don't get me wrong, it's a good set, but you still have some problems with Sheer Cold. Sheer Cold is tricky because Landorus is weak to it, so if someone Gastro Acid's Spiritomb (maybe on the switch or something), then you have to sacrifice something to Sheer Cold. However, Landorus is great for walling the Huge Power MMXs running around, as they often don't have Ice or Water coverage.
Besides that, the team looks really good.
If it Thunder Waves the Tagger on the switch, it doesn't matter too much. Also, Magic Coat lets you play fun mind games with the opposing trapper and Encore. However, it's not quite reliable, as one mispredict costs you the game potentially.
What she does is she uses Substitute until she's low enough on health to guarantee a Destiny Bond kill. It also helps with the mind games.
Yeah, but from my experience, once the opponent realizes you don't have curse or bp, it's kinda obvious and they usually switch or try to put it asleep(esp if you constantly sub, also seems sorta limited in purpose...except gaining moment and phasing out bouncers through parting shot I guess).
Unrelated, but how do some people survive w/o wish support? I never can.
I generally play stall with like one nuke, so I have recovery on everything. Wishes are hard for me in Hackmons due to the fact that people will almost always attack the turn after you used Wish, and generally you're passing the Wish to a low health Pokemon. I prefer to just bring it in at a good time and use my recovery move.
Yeah, and damaged Wonder Guarders are typically the best choices (though Magic Bounce works too). Prankster is necessary too in case you go up against Aero.
Also, just saying, Hacks as OMotM would suck. Everyone decent would make a team of Balloon Electrics, and no one else would know what to do.
Also, just saying, Hacks as OMotM would suck. Everyone decent would make a team of Balloon Electrics, and no one else would know what to do.
You can just run shed shell :P(if you mean shadow tag Aerodactyl-Mega).
True, although that would mean Knock Off vulnerability. Personally, I think running Shadow Tag yourself would be nice, as many variants of MM2X have no super effective moves against you. Sticky Web works to slow 'em down too if you're hoping for the KO with Perish Song.
T-BO TECH (Armaldo) @ Stone Plate
Ability: Wonder Guard
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Quiet Nature
- Judgment
- Freeze-Dry
- U-turn
- Whirlwind
Breloom @ Sky Plate
Ability: Gale Wings
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Bold Nature
- Judgment
- Spore
- Leech Seed
- Roost
less competitive but a fun set to use
Houndoom-Mega @ Choice Specs
Ability: Parental Bond
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Trick
- Volt Switch
- Night Daze
- Flamethrower
Iron Giant (Golurk) @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Sneak
- Trick
- Thousand Arrows
- Play Rough
Ability: Wonder Guard
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Quiet Nature
- Judgment
- Freeze-Dry
- U-turn
- Whirlwind
Breloom @ Sky Plate
Ability: Gale Wings
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Bold Nature
- Judgment
- Spore
- Leech Seed
- Roost
less competitive but a fun set to use
Houndoom-Mega @ Choice Specs
Ability: Parental Bond
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Trick
- Volt Switch
- Night Daze
- Flamethrower
Iron Giant (Golurk) @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Sneak
- Trick
- Thousand Arrows
- Play Rough
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That all could have been one post, and in addition, 1) some of these Pokemon are outclassed (particularly Breloom and Golurk), 2) Gale Wings doesn't work with Sky Plate Judgment, unfortunately, and 3) Flamethrower is outclassed in every way but PP by Searing Shot.
And 4) always use 248 hp EVs to get an odd hp number.
BEcause by taking out the EV limit and Team Preview, it stopped following in-game rules, and like Custom Battle became a challenge-only format
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