Honchkrow (Analysis)

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[Overview]

<p>After spending a lengthy sentence in the DPP Borderline Correctional Institution, and despite the disgrace of now being RU, Honchkrow has returned to rule the streets of BW UU. The mob boss crow has maintained plenty of its swagger, and its Moxie can be downright intimidating. Honckrow still wields a brutally powerful STAB Brave Bird and one of the strongest priority moves in the game, Sucker Punch. Moxie makes Honchkrow an even more threatening sweeper and wallbreaker than before, but Honchkrow has the option of trading this excellent ability for Heat Wave and Superpower in order to dismantle its usual counters. Its middling Speed, as well as its susceptibility to Stealth Rock and recoil damage make it difficult to use, but Honchkrow provides devastating results for those who can handle it.</p>

[SET]
name: Moxie
move 1: Substitute / Taunt
move 2: Roost
move 3: Brave Bird
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Life Orb
ability: Moxie
nature: Adamant
evs: 20 HP / 252 Atk / 236 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Moxie has changed Honchkrow drastically, allowing it to sweep through a weakened team, shred walls with Brave Bird, and KO most revenge killers before they can move with a boosted Sucker Punch. Substitute eases prediction for Honchkrow, and also prevents status, which would otherwise severely hamper its ability to sweep. Taunt is also an option for blocking most status moves short of Scald, as well as preventing walls from healing off any damage Honchkrow has dealt to them. Roost keeps Honchkrow healthy, prolonging its sweep and preventing recoil from Life Orb and Brave Bird from eating away at it too quickly.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Honchkrow wants all the power it can get, so an Adamant nature and maximum Attack investment are used in conjunction with a Life Orb. The Speed EVs allow Honchkrow to outpace base 100 Speed Pokemon that themselves have no Speed investment. The few remaining EVs are placed in HP to help mitigate recoil damage. Honchkrow has the option of maxing out HP, giving it a total of 404, which allows for 101 HP Substitutes that cannot be broken by one Seismic Toss or Night Shade; this also slightly mitigates recoil damage. However, Honchkrow functions best when it can move before walls, so it generally appreciates the Speed investment more than 101 HP Substitutes. Pursuit is an option on this set to eliminate a crippled Pokemon, guaranteeing the first Moxie boost, which can easily spiral into a full sweep.</p>

<p>Honchkrow definitely wants entry hazard support to score KOs and abuse Moxie. Spikes users are abundant in UU, with the main users being Roserade and Froslass. Stealth Rock is also greatly appreciated. Since Honchkrow is itself weak to Stealth Rock and is quickly worn down by recoil damage, it also benefits from Rapid Spin support. Hitmontop and Donphan are both excellent options here. It is also important to note that Honckrow is completely walled by most Steel-types, so Magneton is a useful partner for trapping them.</p>

[SET]
name: Mixed Sweeper
move 1: Brave Bird
move 2: Sucker Punch
move 3: Night Slash / Drill Peck
move 4: Hidden Power Grass / Superpower / Heat Wave
item: Life Orb
ability: Moxie / Insomnia
nature: Naughty / Adamant
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Honchkrow has a myriad of wallbreaking moves, which allow it to catch its usual counters off-guard. Brave Bird and Sucker Punch are still the main STAB moves, but Night Slash is also used to give Honchkrow a more reliable Dark-type STAB. Drill Peck can come in handy when Honckrow is low on health and can't afford to use Brave Bird. Hidden Power Grass nails Rhyperior, Quaigsire, and Donphan. Honchkrow also has the option of using Heat Wave or Superpower to dismantle Steel-types, but both moves come at the cost of sacrificing Moxie, relegating Honchkrow to more of a wallbreaking role.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>This set focuses on maximizing Honchkrow's offensive prowess, and the EV spread, nature, and item choice reflect this. Insomnia is the ability of choice if a move that is illegal with Moxie—specifically Superpower or Heat Wave—is being used, which allows Honchkrow to ignore Sleep Powders thrown its way. Super Luck is still an option though, and, in conjunction with the high critical hit rate of Night Slash, has a decent chance of dramatically strengthening Honchkrow. Roost and Pursuit enable Honchkrow to take advantage of predicted switches, although Moxie variants make much better use of Pursuit. Taunt is also an option for shutting down walls, allowing Honchkrow to fulfill the role of a wallbreaker more effectively.</p>

<p>This set aims to soften up defensive cores, so entry hazard support is important for whittling down walls switching into Honchkrow. Paralysis support is also recommended, allowing Honchkrow to make better use of Brave Bird and its coverage moves. Ferroseed can use both Spikes and Thunder Wave to support Honchkrow. As this set also switches frequently, Rapid Spin or Wish support is appreciated as well. Donphan can use both Rapid Spin and Stealth Rock, while Chansey can pass huge Wishes that heal Honchkrow almost completely. Swellow benefits from Honchkrow's presence too, since it can sweep much more easily late-game after Honchkrow has softened up the opponent's walls.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice
move 1: Brave Bird
move 2: Night Slash / Sucker Punch
move 3: Drill Peck
move 4: Pursuit / Superpower
item: Choice Scarf / Choice Band
ability: Moxie / Insomnia
nature: Adamant / Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Honchkrow can utilize a Choice item quite effectively. A Choice Band-boosted Brave Bird hits ridiculously hard, while a Choice Scarf set is perfect for a Moxie-boosted late-game sweep. Night Slash is Honchkrow's most consistent Dark STAB move, and is preferred on a Choice set where Honchkrow does not have the option of playing mind games with its foes. Sucker Punch is still useful for revenge killing a fast sweeper, but it is much less useful on the Choice Scarf set than on the Choice Band one. Drill Peck is auxiliary STAB, which is useful when Honchkrow is too low on health to risk using Brave Bird. Pursuit traps and finishes off a weakened opponent, but Superpower can be used to nail Steel- and Rock-types, at the cost of Moxie.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EV spread is standard fare for a Choice Pokemon. The nature of choice depends on several factors: the Choice Scarf set greatly appreciates the power provided by an Adamant nature, but can also make use of Jolly to outspeed Pokemon such as Jolteon. Similarly, the Choice Band set enjoys the power boost of an Adamant nature, but can also take advantage of a Jolly nature to outpace fast walls or slow sweepers. Roost can be used on this set to take advantage of a predicted switch, but there are obvious risks that come with locking a Pokemon into a recovery move.</p>

<p>Entry hazards are essential for the Choice Scarf set, since it's looking to clean up a weakened team. They are also important for the Choice Band set since they help to wear down walls that can take a Brave Bird. For example, Stealth Rock allows Jolly Choice Band Honchkrow to almost always 2HKO 252 HP / 252 Def Bold Suicune. Rapid Spin support is valued since Honchkrow is easily forced out while locked into a move. Hitmontop threatens Steel- and Rock-types while also removing the opponent's Stealth Rock, making life much easier for Honchkrow. Choice Band Crobat makes a good partner for the Choice Scarf set, opening up holes for Honchkrow to abuse later. On the other hand, Choice Band Honchkrow can break walls itself, allowing a Toxic Orb Swellow to clean up.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Honchkrow has a decent Special Attack stat and access to Nasty Plot, but due to its low Speed, it is generally outclassed by other Nasty Plot sweepers, such as Azelf. Thunder Wave can be used to disable quicker switch-ins, allowing Honchkrow to dispatch them before they can move, while Toxic cripples walls, but does nothing against the Steel-types that already wall Honchkrow. Tailwind is an excellent form of support for both Honchkrow and its teammates, but comes at the cost of Moxie. Haze can remove boosts from tanks such as Calm Mind Suicune. Perish Song wrecks Baton Pass teams, and also becomes a win condition when used on the opponent's last Pokemon.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Steel-types in general make things difficult for Honchkrow; they wall it completely if Honchkrow does not give up Moxie for access to its coverage moves. Registeel, Empoleon, and Steelix all provide serious challenges to Honchkrow. Bulky Rock-types such as Rhyperior also check Honchkrow, but they need to watch out for Hidden Power Grass. Electric-type Pokemon can also handle Honchkrow to an extent. Zapdos is the best choice for this job; Raikou works as well since it survives a Life Orb-boosted Adamant Sucker Punch after Stealth Rock, and can even avoid Sucker Punch altogether with Substitute. If Honchkrow manages to amass Moxie boosts, it can become very difficult to stop, so the best way to deal with it is to wear it down with recoil. Stealth Rock is crucial here, but other methods of passive damage, such as sand, poison, or even Ferroseed's Iron Barbs, all help. Walls with high HP, such as Suicune and Chansey, also help to whittle down Honchkrow's health thanks to the large amount of recoil Honchkrow will take from Brave Bird.</p>
 
#2
In my personal experience Honchkrow NEEDS Superpower because without it it can't even hope to touch Registeel. Imo it should be Super Luck primarily with Superpower but I'll leave it up to QC
 

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super luck? seriously? no mention of insomnia at all?

It allows you to keep superpower and at the same time giggle at roserade's sleep powders.

I'm not sure if you can lump together band and scarf that easily, either.

Subroost just looks.. bad.
 
#6
  • Naughty should get the main nature slash as a result of HP Grass being main slash on the 4th move slot.
  • Insomnia should replace Super Luck on all sets (mention Super Luck in AC on all sets)
  • Mention physically defensive Zapdos as a counter and faster electric like Raikou, Jolteon and offensive Zapdos as checks.
You guys are crazy, the SubRoost set is ridiculously good.
(Why doesn't this thing get U-turn...)

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#8
Max Speed on the SubRoost set is very useful to set up on shit like Defensive Roserade, Celebi, and Deoxys-D. It also lets you 2HKO shit like Suicune on the switch before they can move, so yeah, I'd actually go as far as saying its better than max HP.

Either that, or really emphasize paralysis support. Though Roserade and Celebi have Natural cure anyway so idk... max Speed is just better.

EDIT: Just saw the two comments about SubRoost being bad... lol, its better than the first set.
 
#9
I didn't say it was bad, I just didn't liked the look of it, but if it works with Braviary (though he doesn't have Roost so it's not really the same. If he had Roost, he could have done about the same thing) it should work even better with Honchkrow.

I hope you understand what I'm saying, because I don't want some stupid reply about how Braviary doesn't have Roost and blahblahblah.
 
#10
SubRoost set should look like this said:
name: Moxie
move 1: Substitute / Taunt
move 2: Roost
move 3: Brave Bird
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Life Orb
ability: Moxie
nature: Adamant
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Honchkrow NEEDS to outrun walls in order to do its job, and if youre worried about prediction wars with Chansey / Dusclops / Deoxys-D / whatever then use Taunt. Anything other than adamant with Brave Bird is not acceptable for Honchkrow as this leaves it walled by almost every basic defensive tank in the meta. Sucker Punch is essential for Honchkrow, Night Slash should never be considered.

Make the above set the first set listed. It is easily the most threatening set Honchkrow can run.
 

breh

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what exactly is running max speed doing? you outspeed nothing useful, as far as I see. it'd be better to run something like 20 HP / 252 Attack / 236 Spe (which outspeeds min base 100s) Adamant; this can be further lessened to outspeed stuff like min rotom-H, min suicune, etc.
 
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[Overview]

<p>After spending a lengthy sentence in the 4th Gen DPP Borderline Correctional Institution, and despite the hardship ignominy / disgrace? of now being RU, Honchkrow has returned to rule the streets of 5th Gen BW UU. The mob boss crow has maintained plenty of its swagger, and its Moxie can be downright intimidating. Honckrow still has its wields a brutally powerful STAB Brave Bird trying to vary sentence structure a little; this and the previous sentence seem too similar yet too disjointed. i'll leave it up to your discretion and one of the best priority moves in the game, Sucker Punch. Moxie makes it an even more threatening sweeper and wall- <remove hyphen, no space>breaker than before, but Honchkrow still has the option of trading the this excellent ability for the Heat Wave and Superpower, moves it needs to dismantle its usual counters. Its middling Speed and, as well as its susceptibility to Stealth Rock and recoil damage, makes it difficult to use, but it Honchkrow provides devastating results for those who can handle it.</p>

[SET]
name: Moxie
move 1: Substitute / Taunt
move 2: Roost
move 3: Brave Bird
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Life Orb
ability: Moxie
nature: Adamant
evs: 20 HP / 252 Atk / 236 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Moxie changes the game completely for Honchkrow Receiving Moxie through the Dream World has changed Honchkrow considerably i think that's what you mean? :/, allowing it to sweep through a weakened team, shredding walls with Brave Bird and KOing most revenge killers before they can move with a boosted Sucker Punch. Substitute eases prediction for Honchkrow, and also blocks prevents preferential; you use 'block' below status, which would severely hamper its ability to sweep. Taunt is also an option for blocking most status moves short of Scald, as well as preventing walls from healing off any damage Honchkrow has dealt to them. Roost keeps Honchkrow in good health, prolonging its sweep and preventing recoil from Life Orb and Brave Bird from eating away at it too quickly.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Honchkrow wants all of the power it can get, so an Adamant nature and maximum Attack investment are used in conjunction with a Life Orb. The Speed EVs allow Honchkrow to outpace base 100 Speed Pokemon that themselves have no Speed investment. The few remaining EVs are placed in HP to help mitigate recoil damage. Honchkrow has the option of maxing out HP, giving it a total of 404, which allows for 101 HP Substitutes that cannot be broken in one shot by one Seismic Toss or Night Shade; , while also helping to deal with the issue of this also slightly mitigates recoil damage. However, Honchkrow functions best when it can move before walls, so it generally appreciates the Speed investment more than maxed out HP. Pursuit is an option on this set, removing to remove a crippled Pokemon, and guaranteeing the first Moxie boost, which can easily spiral into a full sweep.</p>

<p>Honchkrow definitely wants entry hazard support, because it is more important for it to be able to nab KOs than most other Pokemon KOs nab it Moxie boosts. Spikes users are abundant in UU, with supporters such as the main options being Scolipede, Roserade, and Froslass. Stealth Rock is also greatly appreciated. Since Honchkrow is itself weak to Stealth Rock and wears itself down quickly with is quickly worn down by recoil damage, it also wants benefits from preferential Rapid Spin support. Hitmontop and Donphan are both excellent options here. It is also important to note that Honckrow is completely walled by most Steel-types, so Magneton is a useful partner for trapping them.</p>

[SET]
name: Mixed Sweeper
move 1: Brave Bird
move 2: Sucker Punch
move 3: Night Slash / Drill Peck
move 4: Hidden Power Grass / Superpower / Heat Wave
item: Life Orb
ability: Moxie / Insomnia
nature: Naughty / Adamant
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
ivs: 30 Atk / 30 SpA

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Honchkrow has a myriad of wall- <one word> breaking moves, allowing it to catch its usual counters off-guard and remove them. Brave Bird and Sucker Punch are still the main STAB moves, but Night Slash is also used to give Honchkrow a more reliable Dark-type STAB move optional. Drill Peck is also an option for may come in handy when Honckrow is low on health and can't afford to use Brave Bird. Hidden Power Grass nails Rhyperior hard, and also hits Quagsire and Donphan for a good amount of damage too. Honchkrow also further has the option of using Heat Wave or Superpower to dismantle Steel-types, but they both come at the cost of sacrificing Moxie, relegating Honchkrow to more of a wall- <one word>breaking role.</p>

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[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>This set focuses on maximizing Honchkrow's offensive prowess, and the EV spread, natures, and held Life Orb item choice reflect this. Insomnia is the ability of choice if a move that is illegal with Moxie—specifically Superpower or Heat Wave—is being used, allowing Honchkrow to ignore Sleep Powders thrown its way. Super Luck is still an option though, and, factored in in conjunction with the high critical hit rate of Night Slash, it has a decent chance to dramatically strengthen Honchkrow. Roost and Pursuit are both options for taking enable Honchkrow to take advantage of predicted switches, although Moxie variants make much better use of Pursuit. Taunt is also an option for shutting down walls, allowing Honchkrow to fulfill the role of a wall- <one word>breaker more effectively.</p>

<p>This set aims to soften up defensive cores, so entry hazard support is important since it makes it mroe difficult for walls to switch in order to whittle down the health of walls switching into Honchkrow. Paralysis support is also recommended, allowing Honchkrow to make better use of Brave Bird and its coverage moves. Ferroseed can use both Spikes and Thunder Wave to support Honchkrow. As this set also switches frequently, so Rapid Spin or Wish support is appreciated as well. Donphan can use both Rapid Spin and Stealth Rock, while Chansey can pass off huge Wishes that heal Honchkrow almost completely. Swellow also benefits from Honchkrow's presence too, since it can sweep much more easily late-game after Honchkrow has softened up the opponent's walls.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice
move 1: Brave Bird
move 2: Night Slash / Sucker Punch
move 3: Drill Peck
move 4: Pursuit / Superpower
item: Choice Scarf / Choice Band
ability: Moxie / Insomnia
nature: Adamant / Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Honchkrow can employ Choice sets utilize Choice items quite effectively when used properly. A Choice Band-backed boosted Brave Bird hits ridiculously hard, while a Choice Scarf set can use it to facilitate is perfectly equipped for a Moxie-boosted late-game sweep. Night Slash is Honchkrow's most consistent Dark STAB move, and is preferred for on a Choice set where Honchkrow does not have the option of playing mind<space>games with its foes optional. Sucker Punch is still useful for revenge killing a fast sweeper, but it is much less useful on the Choice Scarf set does not make nearly as much use of it as than on the Choice Band set one. Drill Peck is auxiliary STAB, which is useful when Honchkrow is too low on health to risk using Brave Bird. Pursuit traps and finishes off a weakened opponent, but Superpower can be used to nail Steel- and Rock-types, at the cost of Moxie.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EV spread is standard fare for a Choice Pokemon. The nature to be used of choice depends on the set, as well as other several factors: the Choice Scarf set greatly appreciates the power an Adamant nature provides, but also can also make use of Jolly to outspeed other Choice Scarf Pokemon Honchkrow would normally be defeated by such as.... Similarly, the Choice Band set makes good use of enjoys the power boost from an Adamant nature, but can also take advantage of a Jolly nature to outpace fast walls or slow sweepers. Roost can be used on this set on to take advantage of a predicted switch, but there are obvious risks that come with locking a Pokemon into a recovery move.</p>

<p>Entry hazards are essential for the Choice Scarf set, since it's looking to clean up a weakened team. They are also important for the Choice Band set since they help to wear down walls that can take a Brave Bird from Honchkrow. For example, Stealth Rock allows Jolly Choice Band Honchkrow to almost always 2HKO max 252 HP / 252 Def Bold Suicune. Rapid Spin support is valued since Honchkrow is easier to force out while locked into a move. Hitmontop threatens Steel- and Rock-types while also removing the opponent's Stealth Rock, making life much easier for Honchkrow. Choice Band Crobat makes a good partner for the Choice Scarf set, opening up holes for Honchkrow to abuse later, while the Choice Band set Honchkrow can break walls itself, allowing a paired Toxic Orb Swellow to clean up.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Honchkrow has a decent Special Attack stat and access to Nasty Plot, but due to its low Speed, it is generally outclassed by other Nasty Plot sweepers, such as Azelf. Thunder Wave can be used to disable quicker switch-ins, allowing Honchkrow to dispatch them before they can move. , while preferential Toxic can be used to cripples walls, but does nothing against the Steel-types that already preferential wall Honchkrow. Tailwind is an excellent form of support for both Honchkrow and its teammates, but comes at the cost of Moxie. Haze can removee boosts from tanks such as Calm Mind Suicune. Perish Song wrecks Baton Pass teams, and also becomes a win condition when used on the opponent's last Pokemon.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Steel-types in general make things life preferential difficult for Honchkrow, walling it completely if it does not give up Moxie so that it can run for access to its coverage moves. Specifically, Registeel, Empoleon, and Steelix all provide serious challenges to Honchkrow. Bulky Rock-types, such as Rhyperior, also check Honchkrow, but they need to watch out for Hidden Power Grass. Electric-type Pokemon can also handle Honchkrow to an extent. Zapdos is the best choice for this job; while Raikou is also an option since it too can survive a Life Orb-boosted Adamant Sucker Punch, even after Stealth Rock, and can even avoid it Sucker Punch altogether with Substitute. If Honchkrow manages to amass Moxie boosts, it can become very difficult to stop, so the best way to deal with it is to wear it down with recoil. Stealth Rock is crucial here, but other methods of passive damage, such as sand, poison, or even Ferroseed's Iron Barbs, all help to wear it down to this end. Walls with large amounts of high HP, such as Suicune and Chansey, also help to whittle down Honchkrow's health thanks to the large amount of recoil Honchkrow will take from Brave Bird causes to it from hitting them.</p>
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QC Approved: PK Gaming, Oglemi, Chou Toshio
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[Overview]

<p>After spending a lengthy sentence in the DPP Borderline Correctional Institution, and despite the disgrace of now being RU, Honchkrow has returned to rule the streets of BW UU. The mob boss crow has maintained plenty of its swagger, and its Moxie can be downright intimidating. Honckrow still wields a brutally powerful STAB Brave Bird and one of the best strongest I would argue its the worst since everything sets up on Sucker Punch priority moves in the game, Sucker Punch. Moxie makes it Honchkrow an even more threatening sweeper and wall breaker than before, but Honchkrow still has the option of trading this excellent ability for Heat Wave and Superpower, moves it needs to dismantle its usual counters. Its middling Speed, as well as its susceptibility to Stealth Rock and recoil damage make it difficult to use, but Honchkrow provides devastating results for those who can handle it.</p>

[SET]
name: Moxie
move 1: Substitute / Taunt
move 2: Roost
move 3: Brave Bird
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Life Orb
ability: Moxie
nature: Adamant
evs: 20 HP / 252 Atk / 236 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Receiving Moxie from the Dream World has changed Honchkrow drastically, allowing it to sweep through a weakened team, shredding walls with Brave Bird(comma) and KOing most revenge killers before they can move with a boosted Sucker Punch. Substitute eases prediction for Honchkrow, and also prevents status, which would otherwise severely hamper its ability to sweep. Taunt is also an option for blocking most status moves short of Scald, as well as preventing walls from healing off any damage Honchkrow has dealt to them. Roost keeps Honchkrow in good health, healthy(comma) prolonging its sweep and preventing recoil from Life Orb and Brave Bird from eating away at it too quickly.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Honchkrow wants all the power it can get, so an Adamant nature and maximum Attack investment are used in conjunction with a Life Orb. The Speed EVs allow Honchkrow to outpace base 100 Speed Pokemon that themselves(space)have no Speed investment. The few remaining EVs are placed in HP to help mitigate recoil damage. Honchkrow has the option of maxing out HP, giving which gives it a total of 404, which allows for 101 HP Substitutes that cannot be broken by one Seismic Toss or Night Shade; this also slightly mitigates recoil damage. However, Honchkrow functions best when it can move before walls, so it generally appreciates the Speed investment more than 101 HP Substitutes(period) maxed out HP. Pursuit is an option on this set to remove elimnate a crippled Pokemon, guaranteeing the first Moxie boost, which can easily and potentially spiral into a full sweep.</p>

<p>Honchkrow definitely wants entry hazard support to score KOs and abuse Moxie(period), because KOs give it Moxie boosts, and Honchkrow appreciates anything that can aid it in this regard. Spikes users are abundant in UU, with the main users being Roserade and Froslass. Stealth Rock is also greatly appreciated. Since Honchkrow is itself weak to Stealth Rock and is quickly worn down by recoil damage, it also benefits from Rapid Spin support. Hitmontop and Donphan are both excellent options here. It is also important to note that Honckrow is completely walled by most Steel-types, so Magneton is a useful partner for trapping them.</p>

[SET]
name: Mixed Sweeper
move 1: Brave Bird
move 2: Sucker Punch
move 3: Night Slash / Drill Peck
move 4: Hidden Power Grass / Superpower / Heat Wave
item: Life Orb
ability: Moxie / Insomnia
nature: Naughty / Adamant
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
ivs: 30 Atk / 30 SpA

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Honchkrow has a myriad of wall breaking moves, allowing which allow it to catch its usual counters off-guard(period) and remove them. Brave Bird and Sucker Punch are still the main STAB moves, but Night Slash is also used to give Honchkrow a more reliable Dark-type STAB. Drill Peck can come in handy when Honckrow is low on health and can't afford to use Brave Bird. Hidden Power Grass nails Rhyperior(comma) Quagsire(comma) and Donphan(period) hard, and hits Quagsire and Donphan for a good amount of damage too. Honchkrow also has the option of using Heat Wave or Superpower to dismantle Steel-types, but they both moves come at the cost of sacrificing Moxie, relegating Honchkrow to more of a wall breaking role.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>This set focuses on maximizing Honchkrow's offensive prowess, and the EV spread, nature, and item choice reflect this. Insomnia is the ability of choice if a move that is illegal with Moxie—specifically Superpower or Heat Wave—is being used, allowing which allows Honchkrow to ignore Sleep Powders thrown its way. Super Luck is still an option though, and, in conjunction with the high critical hit rate of Night Slash, has a decent chance to dramatically strengthen of dramatically strengthening Honchkrow. Roost and Pursuit enable Honchkrow to take advantage of predicted switches, although Moxie variants make much better use of Pursuit. Taunt is also an option for shutting down walls, allowing Honchkrow to fulfill the role of a wall breaker more effectively.</p>

<p>This set aims to soften up defensive cores, so entry hazard support is important for whittling down the health of walls switching into Honchkrow. Paralysis support is also recommended, allowing Honchkrow to make better use of Brave Bird and its coverage moves. Ferroseed can use both Spikes and Thunder Wave to support Honchkrow. As this set also switches frequently, Rapid Spin or Wish support is appreciated as well. Donphan can use both Rapid Spin and Stealth Rock, while Chansey can pass huge Wishes that heal Honchkrow almost completely. Swellow benefits from Honchkrow's presence too, since it can sweep much more easily late-game after Honchkrow has softened up the opponent's walls.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice
move 1: Brave Bird
move 2: Night Slash / Sucker Punch
move 3: Drill Peck
move 4: Pursuit / Superpower
item: Choice Scarf / Choice Band
ability: Moxie / Insomnia
nature: Adamant / Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Honchkrow can utilize a Choice item quite effectively(period) when used properly. A Choice Band-boosted Brave Bird hits ridiculously hard, while a Choice Scarf set is perfectly equipped for a Moxie-boosted late-game sweep. Night Slash is Honchkrow's most consistent Dark STAB move, and is preferred on a Choice set where because Honchkrow does not have the option of playing mind games with its foes. Sucker Punch is still useful for revenge killing a fast sweeper, but it is much less useful on the Choice Scarf set than on the Choice Band one. Drill Peck is auxiliary STAB, which is useful when Honchkrow is too low on health to risk using Brave Bird. Pursuit traps and finishes off a weakened opponent, but Superpower can be used to nail Steel- and Rock-types, at the cost of Moxie.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EV spread is standard fare for a Choice Pokemon. The nature of choice depends on several factors: the Choice Scarf set greatly appreciates the power provided by an Adamant nature(comma) an Adamant nature provides, but can also make use of Jolly to outspeed Pokemon such as Jolteon. Similarly, the Choice Band set enjoys the power boost of an Adamant nature, but can also take advantage of a Jolly nature to outpace fast walls or slow sweepers. Roost can be used on this set to take advantage of a predicted switch, but there are obvious risks that come with locking a Pokemon into a recovery move.</p>

<p>Entry hazards are essential for the Choice Scarf set, since it's looking to clean up a weakened team. They are also important for the Choice Band set since they help to wear down walls that can take a Brave Bird. For example, Stealth Rock allows Jolly Choice Band Honchkrow to almost always 2HKO 252 HP / 252 Def Bold Suicune. Rapid Spin support is valued since Honchkrow is easier to force easily forced out while locked into a move. Hitmontop threatens Steel- and Rock-types while also removing the opponent's Stealth Rock, making life much easier for Honchkrow. Choice Band Crobat makes a good partner for the Choice Scarf set, opening up holes for Honchkrow to abuse later(period), while On the other hand(comma) Choice Band Honchkrow can break walls itself, allowing a Toxic Orb Swellow to clean up.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Honchkrow has a decent Special Attack stat and access to Nasty Plot, but due to its low Speed, it is generally outclassed by other Nasty Plot sweepers, such as Azelf. Thunder Wave can be used to disable quicker switch-ins, allowing Honchkrow to dispatch them before they can move, while Toxic cripples walls, but does nothing against the Steel-types that already wall Honchkrow. Tailwind is an excellent form of support for both Honchkrow and its teammates, but comes at the cost of Moxie. Haze can remove boosts from tanks such as Calm Mind Suicune. Perish Song wrecks Baton Pass teams, and also becomes a win condition when used on the opponent's last Pokemon.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Steel-types in general make things difficult for Honchkrow, walling it completely if it does not they wall it completely unless Honchkrow opts to give up Moxie for access to its coverage moves. Registeel, Empoleon, and Steelix all provide serious challenges to Honchkrow. Bulky Rock-types such as Rhyperior also check Honchkrow, but they need to watch out for Hidden Power Grass. Electric-type Pokemon can also handle Honchkrow to an extent. Zapdos is the best choice for this job; Raikou works as well since it survives a Life Orb-boosted Adamant Sucker Punch after Stealth Rock, and can even avoid Sucker Punch altogether with Substitute. If Honchkrow manages to amass Moxie boosts, it can become very difficult to stop, so the best way to deal with it is to wear it down with recoil. Stealth Rock is crucial here, but other methods of passive damage, such as sand, poison, or even Ferroseed's Iron Barbs, all help. Walls with high HP, such as Suicune and Chansey, also help to whittle down Honchkrow's health thanks to the large amount of recoil Honchkrow will take from Brave Bird.</p>
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