How many times did you use a stall team in the meta to affirm so confidently "deoxys attack with protean can 6-0 a stall team with ease"?Inheritance Ubers!
with the growing popularity of inheritance ubers I thought that it'd make sense to have a proper banlist in place ( and a viability ranking if someone feels like it)
As of right now the only ban in place is rayquaza-mega. However a suspect of protean may be necessary as it completely takes stall out of the equation, although this may not be used much as it is a deoxys attack with protean can 6-0 a stall team with ease. Other future suspects include zekrom and inheriting from prankster sableye. Comment threats, interesting sets or suspects you may have.
In ubers, even stallmons have a decently strong attacking stat and any random scald / u-turn / w/e will severely dent or even kill deoxys attack. Just because it's stall doesn't mean you can't run damaging move and hell if you run a stall primadon you'd be pretty stupid not to so it's not that easy to bring deoxys in safely. Also while it 2hkoes most of the meta it can rarely ohko stuff meaning landing a hit on deoxys isn't that difficult. Hell you don't even need to predict the switch to kill him on pursuit and a random Espeed / shadow sneak will take care of him.
Deoxys relies heavily on LO to do decent damage and assuming you don't make perfect predicts every turn, LO + SR and a random rocky helmet will bring down deoxys.
On top of that, protean may have a good special movepool but in the physical side it's fairly limited. The base power rarely goes over 75. And the most powerful moves are arguably terrible in ubers (stuff like fire blast / hydro pump). Meaning neutral hits won't do as much. Something like arceus poison for example can tank most of deoxys' moves to scout his set.
252 SpA Life Orb Protean Deoxys-A Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Arceus-Poison: 191-226 (43 - 50.9%) -- 3.1% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Protean Deoxys-A Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Arceus-Poison: 187-220 (42.1 - 49.5%)
252 Atk Life Orb Protean Deoxys-A Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Arceus-Poison: 187-220 (42.1 - 49.5%)
I'm not saying it's bad. But as a stallbreaker it's normal that stall has some difficulties to handle it. That doesn't necessarily mean it's op. And saying it 6-0s stall WITH EASE is just nonsense. Protean in ubers is actually pretty similar to protean in normal inheritance. Which isn't banned yet.
Tbh, I think mega launcher dialga is way harder to handle for stall than deoxys. Dragon pulse 2hkoes close to everything and flash canon / aura sphere deals with the dragon resists.
Other than that, here's a bunch of cool sets.
Here's a set I used to wall tough claws zekrom
Furry Fetish (Altaria) @ Altarianite
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Boomburst
- Earth Power
- Roost
- U-turn
Earth power is to hit the incredibly obvious primadon switchin. The rest is pretty obvious.
Here's a cool think if you don't want to use the refrigirate set.
Rough masturbation (Kyurem-Black) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Shell Smash
- Icicle Spear
And that's the best set in history of everything ever. No contest.
I do porn (Keldeo) @ Life Orb
Ability: Mega Launcher
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Aura Sphere
- Hydro Pump
- Flash Cannon
- Dragon Pulse
Furry Fetish (Altaria) @ Altarianite
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Boomburst
- Earth Power
- Roost
- U-turn
Earth power is to hit the incredibly obvious primadon switchin. The rest is pretty obvious.
Here's a cool think if you don't want to use the refrigirate set.
Rough masturbation (Kyurem-Black) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Shell Smash
- Icicle Spear
And that's the best set in history of everything ever. No contest.
I do porn (Keldeo) @ Life Orb
Ability: Mega Launcher
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Aura Sphere
- Hydro Pump
- Flash Cannon
- Dragon Pulse
EDIT: "any bulky ogre set can wall non-specs dialga, and any sdef set walls all dialga" -xJownage
252+ SpA Choice Specs Mega Launcher Dialga Dragon Pulse vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Kyogre: 216-255 (53.5 - 63.2%) huehue, I'm using max spedef ASSAULT VEST.
Still I completely forgot the existence of the stupid pink blob when I wrote this so I take my words back.
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