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Championship - Type B Ketchum Cup - Round 4

Discussion in 'Tournaments' started by michaeloche, Jun 12, 2017.

  1. michaeloche


    May 23, 2013
    approved by Quite Quiet

    Ketchum Cup

    You've all seen them on the ladder: Ash teams. No matter what tier you're playing, some poor schmuck will be running Pikachu, Charizard, Greninja, or whatever. Rarely do they have competitive movesets, many don't have items, hell, some of them don't even bother to give them EVs. You have a laugh at their expense, take your Elo boost, and move on. But sometimes you think, "I could show this guy how to build a real Ash team."

    Well, that's where the Ketchum Cup comes in. In the Ketchum Cup, all Pokemon used must be an "Ashmon". For the purposes of this tournament, an Ashmon is any Pokemon that satisfies at least one of the following:
    • Any Pokemon that Ash Ketchum has owned at any point in the (Japanese) anime, including those he has captured and then released, traded away, given away, etc.
    • Any Pokemon related by evolution to the above, even if Ash hasn't actually owned one (e.g., Raichu)
    • Any alternate forms of the above (includes megas, Ash-Greninja, Alola forms, etc.)
    • Additionally, all Ashmons must be obtainable in Sun and Moon. Events count.

    For the purposes of the Ketchum Cup, Pokemon that Ash has borrowed, taken care of temporarily, etc., are not considered Ashmons, and are therefore not eligible. For example, Ash briefly traveled with a Haunter and used it to obtain a badge from Sabrina, then gave it to her, but he never actually owned it, so it isn't an Ashmon (and, by extension, Gastly and Gengar are not Ashmons, either).

    A list of Ashmons, with reasoning for their inclusion if it is not obvious, is included below. I got this list here.

    Ashmons (open)

    Pikachu and family (includes Alolan Raichu and Pikachu in a cap, but not Cosplay Pikachu, as it is unobtainable in Sun and Moon)
    Rowlet and family
    Rockruff and family (includes both forms of Lycanroc)
    Litten and family
    Bulbasaur and family (includes Mega Venusaur)
    Charmander and family (includes both Mega Charizards)
    Krabby and family
    Muk and family (includes Alolan forms)
    Snorlax and family
    Heracross (includes Mega Heracross)
    Chikorita and family
    Cyndaquil and family
    Totodile and family
    Noctowl and family (if you use Noctowl, it does not have to be Shiny, by the way)
    Phanpy and family
    Taillow and family
    Treecko and family (includes Mega Sceptile)
    Corphish and family
    Snorunt and family (includes Froslass and Mega Glalie)
    Starly and family
    Turtwig and family
    Chimchar and family
    Buizel and family
    Gligar and family
    Gible and family (includes Mega Garchomp)
    Pidove and family
    Snivy and family
    Tepig and family
    Oshawott and family
    Scraggy and family
    Sewaddle and family
    Palpitoad and family
    Roggenrola and family
    Sandile and family
    Fletchling and family
    Noibat and family
    Squirtle and family (Squirtle is in training; includes Mega Blastoise)
    Primeape and family (Primeape is in training)
    Caterpie and family (Butterfree was released)
    Pidgeotto and family (Pidgeot was released; includes Mega Pidgeot)
    Lapras (was released)
    Goomy and family (Goodra was released)
    Froakie and family (Greninja was released; includes Ash-Greninja)
    Raticate and family (Ash traded his Butterfree for it, then traded it back; includes Alolan forms)
    Aipom and family (Ash caught Aipom and traded it to Dawn)
    Beedrill and family (Ash caught one, then gave it to Casey; includes Mega Beedrill)

    If there are any changes to the list, they will go into effect during the next round. if you are not sure why a certain Pokemon was not included, ask me, preferably in this thread.

    Rules: (tl;dr read the bold stuff)
    • Tournament Rules and General Guidelines
    • Battles are SM OU rules unless otherwise noted, best of one.
    • All Pokemon used in the tournament must be Ashmons, as outlined above.
    • Anything legal in SM is fair game (Mega Stones, Z-Crystals, etc.) as long as it follows the other rules.
    • Battles should preferably take place on PS, although PO is fine by me if both players agree.
    • Replays and/or logs are not required, but they are encouraged so a) we can see your creativity when it comes to making Ash teams and b) so I can make sure you're following the rules.
    • This is a Type B tournament. Smogon Championship points are below.

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    Good luck, and have fun!

    Eternal Spirit vs Finchinator
    Pohjis vs Vai Lusa
    vsomani vs (HSA vs p2)
    Hassin627 vs blazenix

    R4 deadline is Sunday, June 18 at 11:59 pm EDT.

    On a side note, the winners of this round will receive Smogon Championship points.
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2017
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  2. michaeloche


    May 23, 2013
    Re: HSA vs p2

    I initially ruled this R3 match a coinflip, but upon further evidence (and some correspondence with TDs), I am granting an extension, and they intend to play sometime today. Tagging vsomani as well because he will be playing the winner, so he knows what's going on.
  3. HSA

    is a Tiering Contributor
    Past Gens Champion

    May 24, 2009
    won, gg

    thanks for the extension
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  4. Vai Lusa

    Vai Lusa

    Jan 18, 2016
    won, sry for hax man pokemon is lame
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  5. Pohjis

    is a Tiering Contributor

    Jul 11, 2015
    I lost to Vai Lusa. I got rather unlucky but I threw in the end for not killing his Staraptor and having a confirmed win with Decidueye against his Ash-Greninja bar of a critical hit.

    252 SpA Life Orb Greninja-Ash Dark Pulse vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Decidueye: 276-328 (76.8 - 91.3%) - I would be 94% after one Protect.

    Thank you for the game and good luck in semi-finals (and potentially in finals). :)

    I won't tag Karppi this time for the teams he passed me for this tournament because he is as pissed as me throwing away a potential win. I will leave these teams for anyone to use; the first team is by far the best and it should beat every possible match-up in this metagame.
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2017
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  6. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT'S FINK DUMBASS
    is a Smogon Social Media Contributoris a Forum Moderatoris a Tiering Contributoris a Contributor to Smogon

    Nov 10, 2011
    won with a lot of luck on my side in a game that he could've certainly won otherwise, sorry about this buddy and good luck in other tournaments, gg out of respect
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  7. blazenix


    Jan 7, 2016
    won against hassin, gg bud
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  8. HSA

    is a Tiering Contributor
    Past Gens Champion

    May 24, 2009
    won gg
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  9. michaeloche


    May 23, 2013
    You guys finished early, awesome! I'll be posting the next round (semifinals already) shortly.

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