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OU Kyurem-B
- Thread starter Jukain
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I have a scarf EV spread for cube that you may have not found which is why your probably don't think it's better, it's mostly a revenge kill set as it's able to ohko or 2hko a lot of pokemon
EV Spread is 146 Atk / 252 SpAtk / 112 Spd with a Rash or Mild Nature
Fusion Bolt, Outrage, Ice Beam, Earth Power
The speed EV's ensure you can outspeed and revenge kill everything up to jolteon's speed which eliminates a lot of pokes, the offensive EV's pretty much ensure you can always 2hko rotom depending on whether its phys def or spec def, you can outspeed an revenge kill mega lucario who iirc cannot ohko you unboosted with priority. when fairies and steels are dead you're free to spam speedy outrages to tear apart your opponents team. It's a pretty solid revenge killer and I can vouch for it personally (and also the other people who I have gave this EV spread to say it's fantastic) I was losing a match 5-3, I got this scarf cube set on the field and in 3 turns I was 3-2 in front and the next time I got cube on the field he demolished what was left and won me the game.
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Just make the edits I mentioned to you on IRC (give the first set max Speed and slash Dragon Tail before Dragon Claw).
Just make the edits I mentioned to you on IRC (give the first set max Speed and slash Dragon Tail before Dragon Claw).
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It's not a huge deal, but he might as well just max his Speed in order to beat Jolly Gyarados, and at worst tie with other neutral Kyurem-B and Gliscor.
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SpD Tyranitar doesn't need AV to wall Sub Kyu-B, so be sure to change the wording to say that SpD Tyranitar in general walls Sub Kyu-B. Also DD Mega Ttar takes little from all of Sub Kyu-B's attacks, sets up on its face, and OHKOes.Checks and Counters said:
Also, add AV Excadrill and AV Conkeldurr as checks.
I think that you should emphasize a little more how kyu-b breaks common cores like venutran and rotom-w/lando-t so well. That's a very important perk to him that he has over other dragons like dnite or garchomp, breaking through lando-t is no easy task for them.
I was just doing some browsing on serebii and saw a physical ice-type move called Freeze Shock with 140 bp in Kyurem B's moveset. Granted, it's a two-turn move, so its utility isn't great, but having a physical ice-type STAB is something Kyurem B has always desperately wanted. I'll leave it to QC to decide its viability, but I think it warrants discussion at least.
That's true. The opportunity cost required may be too high for its use, especially since the threats you mentioned can easily take advantage of the two turns required. I suppose it could see use late game, or when you absolutely need something dead. Alternatively, a gimmicky set with power herb could be used, but that's a one time thing. Might have some surprise factor, but i doubt freeze shock'll see much use on its standard sets.
Ah, I must have overlooked it when i read the analysis. Thanks for clarifying
About Freeze Shock, it's actually better on the sub sets, just sayin. It uses the same principle as sub-focus punch and is therefore more effective on sub variants of cube, losing a sub is better than losing your pokemon. I would suggest you mention it on the sub set rather than the choice banded set since the band set needs damage on turn 1 rather than 2. That being said though Ice Beam should always be the priority choice since it's a 1 turn move and doesn't unnecessarily sac your sub to use it.
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Show logs of Freeze Shock + Substitute working, or your suggestions are empty and theoretical at best.
Show logs of Freeze Shock + Substitute working, or your suggestions are empty and theoretical at best.
It's not a suggestion, I've never used it or plan to. I was just staying theoretically if it was going to be mentioned like it has, it would be with a sub set, where Kyu-B can charge relatively safely.
It doesn't work really, like it doesn't work on the choice banded sets (where it's suggested on the analysis). I already stated that ice beam is the better option, at least read what's been said and wrote before you come at me like that or your argument is "empty and theoretical at best".