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Latias (GP 2/2)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by Solace, Dec 1, 2011.

  1. Solace

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    [Overview]

    <p>Latias's role is slightly different from that of her twin brother, Latios. Although they share a similar stat spread, Latias was given a bulkier edge, as opposed to Latios's more offensive one. Because of this, Latias is rarely seen in VGC 2012. However, for those looking for a bulkier Pokemon with a great movepool, Latias is your girl.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Defensive
    move 1: Dragon Pulse
    move 2: Icy Wind
    move 3: Helping Hand
    move 4: Recover / Protect
    item: Sitrus Berry / Haban Berry / Yache Berry
    nature: Bold
    evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Latias has a great support movepool. Helping Hand is as always a top-notch supporting move in doubles, allowing Latias to help her partner deal more damage that turn. Dragon Pulse is a great move for Latias, preventing her from becoming Taunt bait while also hitting most other Pokemon for decent neutral damage. Icy Wind is another choice to consider, supporting slower Pokemon and hitting both opposing Pokemon to lower their Speed. Recover is great for Latias because she has some staying power; however, if you feel Protect is more useful, it is a good option.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>A Sitrus Berry is a useful item for Latias, allowing her to regain some HP without having to spend a turn Recovering. However, some may find this unnecessary because of Latias's access to the move Recover, so a Haban Berry is another option to consider. This allows Latias to take damage from opposing Dragon-types that threaten her, such as her speedier counterpart Latios, and hit back with Dragon Pulse. Yache Berry is another good resist berry for Latias, enabling her to live common Blizzards and other Ice-type attacks.</p>

    <p>Latias is best paired with Pokemon that deal heavy damage. Metagross is often a common partner because it resists Ice- and Dragon-type moves and hits with incredible power. Other Pokemon such as Mamoswine also complement Latias well because Helping Hand can boost its priority Ice Shard, and with Levitate, Latias is immune to Earthquake. Nearly all Earthquake users pair well with Latias because of Levitate and the Helping Hand boost. Heal Pulse is a new move for Latias, and is a very interesting one as well. Heal Pulse allows Latias to heal up her ally, but if that Pokemon faints before Heal Pulse lands, it will target the opposing side and benefit them. This makes Heal Pulse require some timing and prediction, because healing an opponent can be devastating. Pokemon who are decently bulky but lack recovery often benefit from Latias's Heal Pulse, although it's important to watch out for Follow Me or Rage Powder users, which can redirect Latias's attack and aid the opponent.</p>

    <p>As Tyranitar is one of the best Latias counters, great teammates for Latias are Steel- and Fighting-types. As mentioned before, Metagross makes a great partner because of its STAB Steel-type attacks that hit Tyranitar hard. Fighting-type Pokemon, particularly Hitmontop and Terrakion, also pair well with Latias because their STAB Fighting-type attacks will also remove Tyranitar. Hitmontop also has access to Sucker Punch, with which it can take down Latios, who is a bane to Latias as well. All in all, because Latias functions so well as a supporter, she can pair with almost any Pokemon. Every Pokemon can benefit from a Helping Hand boost or Heal Pulse recovery, so Latias is never short of options for teammates.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Offensive
    move 1: Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor
    move 2: Psyshock
    move 3: Hidden Power Fire
    move 4: Protect
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Timid
    evs: 12 HP / 248 SpA / 248 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Throwing Latias into an offensive role may seem very odd considering her great supporting movepool, but Latias's attacking stats still enable her to pose a significant threat. Life Orb allows Latias to gain many OHKOs she would normally miss out on with a Timid nature, such as on both Latios and Garchomp with Dragon Pulse. Draco Meteor gains even more OHKOs, but comes at the price of a Special Attack drop, which might be unappealing. Psyshock gains STAB and hits common opponents such as Hitmontop for super effective damage, which can be devastating. In the third moveslot, Hidden Power Fire is recommended for extra coverage, especially against Steel-types, who resist both of Latias's STAB attacks. Protect is always a useful move in VGC 2012, providing a damage-free turn for Latias.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>There might not seem to be any reason to use offensive Latias over Latios, but the former's bulk can give her an edge against certain threats. For example, Latias can always survive a Mamoswine's Ice Gem Ice Shard, something Latios can't boast. Latias is also able to take Quiet Abomasnow's Blizzard, as well as hail damage at the end of the turn, which can be very useful. Yanmega's Bug Buzz won't OHKO Latias, but Latios might very well faint. Overall, Latias's bulk is able to get her out of quite a few sticky situations, while her attacking stats enable her to hit nearly as hard as her more offensively based counterpart.</p>

    <p>The EVs provided are the most efficient distribution when using Hidden Power Fire, outspeeding max Speed Infernape, Virizion, and Terrakion. However, if you wish to run max Speed to Speed tie with Latios and Gengar, other usable options include Thunderbolt, Surf, and supporting moves such as Helping Hand and Icy Wind. Latias's diverse movepool will leave you spoilt for choice even if you find Hidden Power Fire undesirable. Hidden Power Ground can also be used to hit Heatran while still maintaining super effective coverage on Steel-types.</p>

    <p>Steel- and Fighting-types are still some of Latias's greatest allies, so Pokemon such as Terrakion, Metagross, Hitmontop, and Heatran are excellent partners. Ground-types such as Mamoswine and Garchomp can also pair well as they are able to abuse strong Earthquakes without fear of hurting their partner. Latias's main issues are specially defensive walls, so Pokemon that hit on the physical side can overcome them and can prove to be a great aid. Great examples of these are Tyranitar, Breloom, and Terrakion which can take out Cresselia, Gastrodon, and Blissey, respectively.</p>

    <p>Latias can also use a Choice Scarf along with a Modest nature. Latias ordinarily Speed ties with her brother Latios, so a Choice Scarf can remove the luck factor of the tie. With the boost in Speed, Latias can run a Modest nature without worry in order to gain her offensive edge back. Unfortunately, with a Choice Scarf, Latias's versatility is severely limited, and since the Speed tie is very situational, winning it might not be of much use. Nonetheless, teams that have trouble with Latios might appreciate the surprise factor Latias can provide. If using Choice Scarf, Trick can be used instead of Protect in order to cripple support Pokemon. Tailwind is also an option on this set when not using Choice Scarf, as it can eliminate threats of Speed ties by simply boosting Latias and her teammates' Speed.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Latias has access to many moves, so there are tons of other options that may be worth exploring. For starters, she receives Rain Dance and Sunny Day, with which she can support a weather abuse team if auto-weather isn't your style, or if you just want some extra security. Latias also has Roar, which can mess with Trick Room setters because it has higher priority, but it's very situational. Latias has access to both Reflect and Light Screen, but Cresselia sets up dual screens much more reliably. A ChestoRest can also be used, but with Recover there isn't much need. Latias can also make use of a Colbur Berry in order to lessen the damage of Dark-type attacks, specifically to survive Adamant Tyranitar's Crunch. Charm is a more gimmicky option to use; lowering the Attack of hard-hitting Pokemon can be useful in certain situations. However, it can end up being useless if Latias isn't up against strong physical attackers. Reflect Type is an interesting move choice as well, providing a way for Latias to change her typing to buffer hits from strong attackers, such as Metagross and Tyranitar. It may not always be the best move, however, as Latias might end up sacrificing the STAB boost on her attacks, so it should be used with caution.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Steel-types wall Latias by resisting both of her STAB attacks, so she will rarely be able to beat them. Tyranitar is also a problem for Latias, as it has massive Special Defense in the sand, in addition to STAB Dark-type attacks to decimate Latias. Most specially defensive walls, Blissey and Cresselia in particular, cause problems for offensive Latias.</p>
  2. Solace

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    Yache berry could also garner a mention as ive been seeing a heap of abomasnows around lately and my defensive latias depends on her yache :)
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    you should mention how offensive latias is not completely outclassed by latios, because it seems like there would be no reason to use offensive latias.
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    ctrl f: charm; not found

    it can get you by vs. some weaker attackers. The stuff of OO at least, IMO.
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    HP Fire so 4 HP / 4 Def / 248 SpA / 4 SpD / 248, maybe slashing another move so latias also has the option to go max speed.

    Reflect Type is a fun move to toy around with, it lets you avoid damage such as coping Metagross's type to absorb a Meteor Mash or coping Sableye for no weak.
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    Icy Wind can also be slashed next to Heal Pulse, as sometimes the ally can be taken out before Latias can heal them.

    Also, imo, i would put a reference to Latias bulk in the attacking set, otherwise people will think it's outclassed by harder hitting Latios

    And Maybe HP Ground > Fire, hits Heatran, which would wall that set, as well as Chandy for SE Damage, and you don't have to have 30 Spd Iv's, which means you speed tie with other positive speed nature base 110's
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    wow i'm mad i missed that lol..definitely adding

    yeah i guess i'll reiterate that its bulkier so that gives it an edge on latios

    i havent really seen charm used much at all, but it won't hurt to add it to OO.

    thanks for the spread!

    i'll add reflect type to OO

    I'll mention HP Ground as well
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    oh wait latias should run 12 HP / 248 SA / 248 Spd instead for HP fire because of the lower HP.
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    i am disappointed in the lack of tailwind slashing

    I've used Tailwind Latias on my sun teams to beat Swift Swim Pokemon, as well as Heal Pulse+Substitute Venusaur to great effect. I think my EV spread was something along the lines of 170 HP / 150 SpA / 180 Spe because I still wanted Latios and Garchomp dead. I'm not on the QC team but w/e!!

    EDIT: I'm also hesitant on the full offense set, since Latios does that better.
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    Wait, where is Yache Berry D: Scarf Abomasnow can run all over Latias without HP Fire. Perhaps slash in Dragon Gem on the offensive set for a stronger Dragon Pulse or Draco Meteor. The supporter set seems like Cresselia, but better typing. This may be Latias's only niche to be used over Cresselia as it resists Surf, Water Spout, and Discharge which can be abused quite commonly. As for the offensive set mention the reason to use it over Latios is because of more bulk and such. Maybe even move the EVs to be 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe. Makes it well Bulkier than Latios and can still dent stuff with Life Orb or maybe a Gem.

    Idk, solid analysis. These are only suggestions, there's probably reasoning that I can't think of not to mention this stuff that I can't remember x_x yeah...
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    yeah i need to work on adding the changes, once this week is over i'll get to it
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    talked this over with solace on irc, 1/2
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    i think all the changes were made
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    [Overview]

    <p>Latias's role is slightly different from her twin Pokemon, Latios. Although they share a similar spread of stats, Latias was given a bulkier edge, as opposed to Latios's offenses. Because of this, Latias is rarely seen in VGC 2012, however, for those who are looking for a bulkier Pokemon with a great movepool, Latias is your girl.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Defensive Latias
    move 1: Dragon Pulse
    move 2: Icy Wind
    move 3: Helping Hand
    move 4: Recover / Protect
    item: Sitrus Berry / Haban Berry / Yache Berry
    ability: Levitate
    nature: Bold
    evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Latias has a great support movepool. Helping Hand is always a top notch supporting move in doubles, allowing Latias to aid her partner for more damage that turn. Dragon Pulse is a great move for Latias, preventing it from becoming Taunt-<insert space>bait while also hitting other Pokemon for decent STAB damage. Icy Wind is another choice to consider, supporting slower Pokemon and hitting both opposing Pokemon to lower their Speed. Recover is great for Latias because it has some staying power; however if you feel Protect is more useful, it can be a good option.</p>

    <p>A Sitrus Berry is a useful item for Latias, allowing it to regain some HP without having to spend a turn Recovering. However, some may find this unnecessary to have because of the move Recover, so a Haban Berry is another option to consider. This allows Latias to take damage from opposing Dragon-types that threaten it, such as its speedier counterpart, Latios, and hit back with Dragon Pulse. Yache Berry is another good resist berry for Latias, enabling it to live common Blizzards and other Ice-type attacks.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>With Latias as a supporter, it would make sense to pair it with Pokemon that deal heavy damage. Metagross is often a common partner because it resists Ice-type and Dragon-type moves and hits with incredible power. Other Pokemon like Mamoswine often pair well, because Helping Hand can boost its priority Ice Shard, and with Levitate, Latias is immune to Earthquake. Nearly any Earthquake user pairs well with Latias because of Levitate, and appreciates the Helping Hand boost. Heal Pulse is a new move for Latias, and it can be very interesting to use. Heal Pulse allows for Latias to heal up its ally, but if that Pokemon faints before Heal Pulse lands, it will target the opposing side and benefit them. This makes Heal Pulse require some timing and prediction, because healing an opponent can be devastating. Pokemon who are decently bulky but lack recovery often benefit from Latias's Heal Pulse, although it's important to watch out for users of Follow Me or Rage Powder users because those can redirect your attack and aid the opponent.</p>

    <p>Since Tyranitar is one of the best Latias counters, great teammates for Latias are Steel- and Fighting-types. As mentioned before, Metagross makes a great partner because of its STAB Steel-type attacks that can hit Tyranitar hard. Fighting-type Pokemon like Hitmontop and Terrakion also pair well because their STAB Fighting-type attacks will also remove Tyranitar. Hitmontop also has access to Sucker Punch which can be used for taking down Latios, who is a bane to Latias as well.</p>

    <p>Because Latias functions so well as a supporter, it can really pair with almost any Pokemon. Every Pokemon can benefit from a Helping Hand boost or Heal Pulse recovery, so Latias is never short of options for teammates.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Offensive
    move 1: Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor
    move 2: Psyshock
    move 3: Hidden Power Fire
    move 4: Protect
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Levitate
    nature: Timid
    evs: 12 HP / 248 SpA / 248 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Throwing Latias into an offensive role may seem very odd considering its great supporting movepool, but Latias still has strong enough stats to be able to provide a quality offense. Life Orb allows Latias to gain many OHKOs it would normally miss out on with a Timid nature, such as OHKOs on both Latios and Garchomp with Dragon Pulse. However, Draco Meteor gains even more OHKOs, but comes at the price of a Special Attack drop, which may seem unappealing. Psyshock gains STAB and hits common opponents such as Hitmontop and other Fighting-types for STAB and super effective damage, which can be devastating. In the third moveslot, HP Fire is recommended in order to hit Steel-types who resist Latias's two STAB attacks, and provides extra coverage. Protect is always a useful move in VGC 2012, providing a damage-free turn for Latias.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Latias may not seem like it has much reason to be used over Latios; however its bulk can give it an edge against certain threats. Latias can always live a Mamoswine's Ice Gem Ice Shard, something Latios can't boast. Latias is also able to take Quiet Abomasnow's Blizzard and not faint due to hail recoil at the end of the turn, which can be very useful. Yanmega's Bug Buzz won't OHKO Latias, where it has a chance to do that to Latios. Overall, Latias's bulk is able to get it out of a few sticky situations and hit nearly as hard as her more offensively based counterpart.</p>

    <p>The EVs provided are the most efficient distribution for using Hidden Power Fire. However, if you wish to run max Speed, other usable options by Latias are Thunderbolt, Surf, or even more supporting moves such as Helping Hand or Icy Wind. Latias's diverse movepool won't leave you out of options to pick from if HP Fire is undesirable. HP Ground can also be used in order to hit Heatran and still hit Steel-types for super effective damage.</p>

    <p>Steel- and Fighting-types are still some of Latias's greatest allies, so Pokemon such as Terrakion, Metagross, Hitmontop, and Heatran are excellent partners. Ground-types such as Mamoswine and Garchomp can also pair wellas they are able to abuse strong Earthquakes without fear of hurting their partner. Latias's main issues are specially defensive walls, so Pokemon that hit on the physical side often are able to overcome that difficulty and can prove to be a great aid.</p>

    <p>A Choice Scarf and a Modest nature can also be given to Latias. Latias ordinarily Speed ties with her brother Latios, so a Choice Scarf can remove the luck factor of the tie. With the boost in Speed, Latias can run a Modest nature without worry in order to gain its offensive edge back. Unfortunately, with a Choice Scarf, Latias's versatility is severely limited, and since the Speed tie is very situational, it may not be of much use, however teams that have trouble with Latios may appreciate the surprise factor Latias can provide. If using Choice Scarf, Trick can be used instead of Protect in order to cripple supporting Pokemon. Tailwind is also an option on this set when not using Choice Scarf, as it can eliminate threats of Speed ties by simply boosting up Latias and her teammates' Speed.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Latias has access to many moves, so there are tons of other options that may be worth exploring. It has access to Rain Dance and Sunny Day, which can be useful in supporting a weather abuse team if auto weather isn't your style, or if you just want some extra security. Latias also has Roar which can mess with Trick Room a bit, since it has higher priority, but it's very situational.. Latias has access to both Reflect and Light Screen, but Cresselia set up dual screens much better. A Rest set with Chesto Berry can also be used, but with Recover there isn't much need. Latias can also make use of a Colbur Berry in order to lessen the damage of Dark-type attacks. Charm is a more gimmicky option to use, lowering the Attack of hard hitting Pokemon which can be useful in certain situations. However, it can end up being useless if Latias isn't up against big physical attackers. Reflect Type can be an interesting move choice as well, providing a way for Latias to change its typing to buffer hits from strong attackers. It may not always have be best move as Latias may end up sacrificing its STAB attacks, so it should be used with caution.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Steel-types wall Latias by resisting both of Latias's STAB types, making it difficult for her to beat them. Tyranitar is also a problem for Latias, abusing its Special Defense boost in the sand and STAB Dark-type attacks to cause trouble. Most specially defensive walls cause problems for Latias offensively, making it important to have Pokemon that hit physically in order to break them.</p>


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    [Overview]

    <p>Latias's role is slightly different from that of her twin brother, Latios. Although they share a similar stat spread, Latias was given a bulkier edge, as opposed to Latios's more offensive one. Because of this, Latias is rarely seen in VGC 2012. However, for those looking for a bulkier Pokemon with a great movepool, Latias is your girl.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Defensive
    move 1: Dragon Pulse
    move 2: Icy Wind
    move 3: Helping Hand
    move 4: Recover / Protect
    item: Sitrus Berry / Haban Berry / Yache Berry
    nature: Bold
    evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Latias has a great support movepool. Helping Hand is as always a top-notch supporting move in doubles, allowing Latias to help her partner deal more damage that turn. Dragon Pulse is a great move for Latias, preventing her from becoming Taunt bait while also hitting most other Pokemon for decent neutral damage. Icy Wind is another choice to consider, supporting slower Pokemon and hitting both opposing Pokemon to lower their Speed. Recover is great for Latias because she has some staying power; however, if you feel Protect is more useful, it is a good option.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>A Sitrus Berry is a useful item for Latias, allowing her to regain some HP without having to spend a turn Recovering. However, some may find this unnecessary because of Latias's access to the move Recover, so a Haban Berry is another option to consider. This allows Latias to take damage from opposing Dragon-types that threaten her, such as her speedier counterpart Latios, and hit back with Dragon Pulse. Yache Berry is another good resist berry for Latias, enabling her to live common Blizzards and other Ice-type attacks.</p>

    <p>Latias is best paired with Pokemon that deal heavy damage. Metagross is often a common partner because it resists Ice- and Dragon-type moves and hits with incredible power. Other Pokemon such as Mamoswine also complement Latias well because Helping Hand can boost its priority Ice Shard, and with Levitate, Latias is immune to Earthquake. Nearly all Earthquake users pair well with Latias because of Levitate and the Helping Hand boost. Heal Pulse is a new move for Latias, and is a very interesting one as well. Heal Pulse allows Latias to heal up her ally, but if that Pokemon faints before Heal Pulse lands, it will target the opposing side and benefit them. This makes Heal Pulse require some timing and prediction, because healing an opponent can be devastating. Pokemon who are decently bulky but lack recovery often benefit from Latias's Heal Pulse, although it's important to watch out for Follow Me or Rage Powder users, which can redirect Latias's attack and aid the opponent.</p>

    <p>As Tyranitar is one of the best Latias counters, great teammates for Latias are Steel- and Fighting-types. As mentioned before, Metagross makes a great partner because of its STAB Steel-type attacks that hit Tyranitar hard. Fighting-type Pokemon, particularly Hitmontop and Terrakion, also pair well with Latias because their STAB Fighting-type attacks will also remove Tyranitar. Hitmontop also has access to Sucker Punch, with which it can take down Latios, who is a bane to Latias as well. All in all, because Latias functions so well as a supporter, she can pair with almost any Pokemon. Every Pokemon can benefit from a Helping Hand boost or Heal Pulse recovery, so Latias is never short of options for teammates.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Offensive
    move 1: Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor
    move 2: Psyshock
    move 3: Hidden Power Fire
    move 4: Protect
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Timid
    evs: 12 HP / 248 SpA / 248 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Throwing Latias into an offensive role may seem very odd considering her great supporting movepool, but Latias's attacking stats still enable her to pose a significant threat. Life Orb allows Latias to gain many OHKOs she would normally miss out on with a Timid nature, such as on both Latios and Garchomp with Dragon Pulse. Draco Meteor gains even more OHKOs, but comes at the price of a Special Attack drop, which might be unappealing. Psyshock gains STAB and hits common opponents such as Hitmontop for super effective damage, which can be devastating. In the third moveslot, Hidden Power Fire is recommended for extra coverage, especially against Steel-types, who resist both of Latias's STAB attacks. Protect is always a useful move in VGC 2012, providing a damage-free turn for Latias.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>There might not seem to be any reason to use offensive Latias over Latios, but the former's bulk can give her an edge against certain threats. For example, Latias can always survive a Mamoswine's Ice Gem Ice Shard, something Latios can't boast. Latias is also able to take Quiet Abomasnow's Blizzard, as well as hail damage at the end of the turn, which can be very useful. Yanmega's Bug Buzz won't OHKO Latias, but Latios might very well faint. Overall, Latias's bulk is able to get her out of quite a few sticky situations, while her attacking stats enable her to hit nearly as hard as her more offensively based counterpart.</p>

    <p>The EVs provided are the most efficient distribution when using Hidden Power Fire <explain this in more detail? outspeeding base 108s such as who etc etc>. However, if you wish to run max Speed to Speed tie with <some significant mons>, other usable options include Thunderbolt, Surf, and supporting moves such as Helping Hand and Icy Wind. Latias's diverse movepool will leave you spoilt for choice even if you find Hidden Power Fire undesirable. Hidden Power Ground can also be used to hit Heatran while still maintaining super effective coverage on Steel-types.</p>

    <p>Steel- and Fighting-types are still some of Latias's greatest allies, so Pokemon such as Terrakion, Metagross, Hitmontop, and Heatran are excellent partners. Ground-types such as Mamoswine and Garchomp can also pair well as they are able to abuse strong Earthquakes without fear of hurting their partner. Latias's main issues are specially defensive walls, so Pokemon that hit on the physical side can overcome them and can prove to be a great aid. Great examples of these are <examples>, which can take out <special walls> (, respectively, if needed).</p>

    <p>Latias can also use a Choice Scarf along with a Modest nature. Latias ordinarily Speed ties with her brother Latios, so a Choice Scarf can remove the luck factor of the tie. With the boost in Speed, Latias can run a Modest nature without worry in order to gain her offensive edge back. Unfortunately, with a Choice Scarf, Latias's versatility is severely limited, and since the Speed tie is very situational, winning it might not be of much use. Nonetheless, teams that have trouble with Latios might appreciate the surprise factor Latias can provide. If using Choice Scarf, Trick can be used instead of Protect in order to cripple support Pokemon. Tailwind is also an option on this set when not using Choice Scarf, as it can eliminate threats of Speed ties by simply boosting Latias and her teammates' Speed.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Latias has access to many moves, so there are tons of other options that may be worth exploring. For starters, she receives Rain Dance and Sunny Day, with which she can support a weather abuse team if auto-weather isn't your style, or if you just want some extra security. Latias also has Roar, which can mess with Trick Room setters because it has higher priority, but it's very situational. Latias has access to both Reflect and Light Screen, but Cresselia sets up dual screens much more reliably. A ChestoRest can also be used, but with Recover there isn't much need. Latias can also make use of a Colbur Berry in order to lessen the damage of Dark-type attacks, specifically to survive <example>. Charm is a more gimmicky option to use; lowering the Attack of hard-hitting Pokemon can be useful in certain situations. However, it can end up being useless if Latias isn't up against strong physical attackers. Reflect Type is an interesting move choice as well, providing a way for Latias to change her typing to buffer hits from strong attackers, such as <examples>. It may not always be the best move, however, as Latias might end up sacrificing the STAB boost on her attacks, so it should be used with caution.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Steel-types wall Latias by resisting both of her STAB attacks, so she will rarely be able to beat them. Tyranitar is also a problem for Latias, as it has massive Special Defense in the sand, in addition to STAB Dark-type attacks to decimate Latias. Most specially defensive walls, <examples> in particular, cause problems for offensive Latias.</p>
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