Latias (Singles)

[OVERVIEW]

Latias is able to serve either as a late-game sweeper or as a check to an array of foes such as slower Dragons or physical attackers, with its better defensive stats, which allow it to take a Shadow Ball from Mega Gengar, and access to Healing Wish giving it a niche over the generally preferred Latios. Mega Latias's bulk emphasizes these differences even further, giving stall teams an immense amount of trouble once Tyranitar has been eliminated and making Latias more versatile than Latios. Furthermore, in combination with the recovery granted by Roost, Latias is able to stick around for extended periods of time, which resistances to common types and a Ground immunity help with. Its high base Speed allows it to outpace the majority of threats in the metagame, often giving it the initiative. This is particularly advantageous for outspeeding most Dragons, such as Garchomp and Mega Salamence, the latter of which often does not use a Speed-boosting nature. A wide offensive movepool, including moves such as Thunderbolt and Shadow Ball, gives Latias the means to deal with a variety of foes, making it somewhat unpredictable. For example, Azumarill, while ordinarily problematic, is 2HKOed by a Choice Specs-boosted Thunderbolt.

Latias does still, however, face competition from Latios offensively, as the latter can take advantage of a higher Special Attack stat in that role. Latios is also not the only Dragon-type it faces competition from. Hydreigon, for example, is another special attacking Dragon-type that hits hard. Being walled by both Dark- and Fairy-types can create some unfavorable match-ups straight from Team Preview. Steel-types also resist both of Latias's STAB moves, making foes such as Mega Mawile, Aegislash, Ferrothorn, and Scizor equally problematic. Overall, Latias is very versatile and can therefore perform well on many different types of teams, but you should ensure it's not outclassed in doing so.

[SET]
name: Mega Calm Mind
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Psyshock
move 3: Roost
move 4: Substitute / Draco Meteor
item: Latiasite
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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Calm Mind boosts Mega Latias's Special Attack and Special Defense by one stage, giving it the means to set up on the foe. Psyshock is the STAB move of choice, as it deals a consistent amount of damage at high accuracy. It also has the quirk of hitting the target's Defense stat, which is part of the reason why it generally outclasses Psychic, as it therefore threatens Calm Mind Suicune more. Roost can help keep Mega Latias healthy by recovering 50% of its HP, compensating for health lost by damage taken from foes and Substitute. Substitute is most effective against defensive threats, giving Mega Latias the option of blocking crippling status, such as poison, paralysis, and burn, from inhibiting its sweep. It also provides a means to prevent the use of Sucker Punch from foes such as Mega Kangaskhan. Draco Meteor can be used instead to provide Latias with some mid-game wallbreaking potential.

Set Details
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Latiasite allows Latias to Mega Evolve, which significantly improves its stats and its ability to sweep through teams. Levitate grants it an immunity to Ground-type moves, which provides more opportunities for Mega Latias to set up. The Speed EVs and Timid nature make Mega Latias as fast as possible. The remaining EVs are invested into HP to boost Mega Latias's general bulk as much as possible. While 56 EVs can be moved out of Speed to improve Mega Latias's bulk but still outspeed Garchomp, this is not recommended, as it's generally counterproductive to sweeping.

Usage Tips
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This set aims to begin setting up to close out the battle once any problematic foes have been eliminated. After gaining a few boosts, Mega Latias is dangerous, and special attackers such as Aegislash, Greninja, and Sylveon will no longer be able to 2HKO it. However, don't try to force this; leave Mega Latias on the bench if you don't believe setting up to be a reasonable expectation. Focus on bringing checks to Steel-, Fairy-, and Dark-types, as they will be the most problematic for Latias. Mega Charizard Y and Rotom-W are good examples of setup fodder, as Latias can stall out Mega Charizard Y's Drought and takes little damage from any of Rotom-W's attacks. Defensive Pokemon such as Cresselia, Porygon2, Zapdos, and Slowbro also make good targets to set up on. Suicune is another example, but bear in mind that Roar is reasonably common, which allows it to phaze Latias. Be sure to Mega Evolve as soon as possible to take advantage of Mega Latias's higher defensive stats. Try to keep Substitute up as much as possible in order to block crippling status from ruining your game plan. It's also recommended to do this as a way of preventing critical hits from OHKOing Latias through its Special Defense boosts.

Team Options
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As this set is walled by Dark-types, teammates that can remove them for Mega Latias are essential. Using a second Mega Evolution such as Mega Mawile, Mega Heracross, or Mega Scizor can offer alternatives for when Mega Latias faces a very poor match-up, as each handles the majority of foes Latias struggles against such as Sylveon and Tyranitar. Azumarill has a great match-up against Dark-types, as it resists their STAB moves and can hit the majority of them super effectively with Play Rough. Blaziken can likewise handle Dark-types well and, in return, appreciates Latias as a defensive switch-in due to its frailty. Protean Greninja gets STAB Low Kick to similarly threaten Dark-types, amongst a variety of other coverage, such as Gunk Shot and Ice Beam, that allow it to threaten other foes that threaten Mega Latias. Non-Mega Scizor, as a Bug-type, also makes a great partner, as it deals with both Dark- and Fairy-types excellently. Physically defensive Scizor makes a particularly good partner, as it can handle physical attackers in general. Ferrothorn accomplishes the same in handling Fairy-types and serves as a great check to physical attackers. Intimidate users such as Landorus-T and Gyarados equally help to keep physical attackers in check by lowering their Attack stat. Landorus-T also has access to Stealth Rock, which breaks Focus Sash and therefore helps boosted Latias pick up OHKOs against Focus Sash users such as Breloom. Will-O-Wisp users such as Heatran, Talonflame, and Rotom-W can halve the foe's Attack. The former two, being Fire-types, also provide the benefit of resisting Fairy-type attacks and have the ability to check Steel-types.

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Psychic / Psyshock
move 3: Trick
move 4: Surf / Healing Wish
item: Choice Specs
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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Draco Meteor is Latias's hardest-hitting attack, dealing massive damage when combined with the boost from Choice Specs. It does, however, come with the drawback of lowering Latias's Special Attack by two stages. Psychic is a STAB move that deals consistent damage at a reasonable Base Power and high accuracy. Alternatively, Psyshock can be used instead if you'd prefer to have the option of hitting a foe's potentially lower Defense. For example, Psychic hits foes like Mega Venusaur harder, but Psyshock deals with Assault Vest users such as Conkeldurr better. Trick can disable a defensive foe by locking them into a single move, making them easy to eliminate. Surf hits many of the targets that Latias struggles against, such as Tyranitar and Heatran, super effectively. Alternatively, Healing Wish differentiates Latias from Latios and can be used over Surf to give Latias more late-game utility by healing up a strong partner such as Mega Mawile or Mega Kangaskhan, should you find that more valuable.

Set Details
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Choice Specs provides the largest increase to Latias's damage output, albeit while locking it into a single move. Levitate is Latias's only ability, but the immunity to Ground-type moves it grants is great for giving it more opportunities to switch in and deal damage. The Speed EVs and a Timid nature allow Latias to outpace as many threats as possible. The remaining EVs are invested into Latias's Special Attack, improving damage output. A Modest nature may be used to deal even more damage, allowing it to OHKO foes, such as 4 HP Mega Kangaskhan, with Draco Meteor. However, it then misses out on outspeeding key threats around the base 100 Speed mark such as Garchomp, generally making it the poorer option.

Usage Tips
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This set aims to deal as much damage as possible, not necessarily focusing on super effective hits. This is because a Choice Specs-boosted Draco Meteor deals a lot of damage even on neutral hits. As Draco Meteor will often be the best choice of move, Latias will be switching in and out a lot to reset the stat drops associated with it. Its superior defenses when compared to Latios and its plentiful resistances complement this strategy, as they make switching in much easier. Do try to think a turn ahead when using Draco Meteor however, as it's easy to fall into the trap of losing too much momentum. If you're running Psyshock, get familiar with predicting foes with high Special Defense to switch in, as it can often 2HKO them. Sylveon, for example, would normally be a safe switch-in against Latias, but is 2HKOed by Psyshock. Chansey is an exception, as it can take a Psyshock relatively easily and would be better crippled by the use of Trick. If using Healing Wish, wait until Latias is no longer useful, or if a crippled ally could better close out the battle.

Team Options
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Teammates that can deal with Pokemon that resist Latias's STAB moves, such as Dark- and Fairy-types, are appreciated. Mega Mawile and Scizor are great examples of this, as they can check both of those types with their STAB moves. Physical Greninja can use a combination of Low Kick and Gunk Shot to accomplish something similar. However, it does have difficulty switching into Fairy-types directly, as it's natively a Dark-type. Azumarill is another Fairy-type that does a good job at checking Dark-types. Fairies being immune to Dragon-type attacks also makes them easy to switch into opposing Dragons. Ferrothorn makes another good Steel-type partner, as it is able to deal well with opposing Fairy-types. Fighting-types such as Blaziken and Mega Heracross are also useful for beating Dark-types, and they are further able to beat Steel-types, which are problematic due to them resisting both of Latias's STAB moves. Fire-types such as Heatran, Talonflame, and Rotom-H equally beat Steel-types and provide a resistance to Fairy. Talonflame is additionally useful as a check against Blaziken, which Latias struggles against because of its combination of Speed Boost and Knock Off. Ground-types such as Landorus-T and Mamoswine likewise hit Steel-types super effectively, although the latter is admittedly hit super effectively by them too. Both can also provide Stealth Rock support, which is useful for breaking the Focus Sash of Pokemon such as Breloom.

[SET]
name: Physically Defensive
move 1: Psychic / Draco Meteor
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Thunder Wave
move 4: Roost
item: Rocky Helmet
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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Psychic is used to provide Latias with a consistent STAB move with reasonable power and high accuracy. Draco Meteor has the ability to pick up OHKOs against foes such as Garchomp, but use of the move is incredibly risky because of the Special Attack decrease. Reflect reduces the damage Latias's team takes for five turns, making it better able to wall physical attackers. Thunder Wave provides a form of speed control and reduces the chance the foe has to move by 25%. This is useful for crippling threats such as Blaziken, which, while ordinarily very fast thanks to Speed Boost, struggles once that advantage has been taken away. Toxic could be used in place of Thunder Wave if your team particularly struggles against defensive threats like Cresselia and Porygon2. Roost recovers 50% of Latias's HP, which allows it to continue racking up chip damage with Rocky Helmet. Healing Wish could be used over Roost if you'd prefer Latias simply went down after doing its job. This synergizes particularly well with Draco Meteor, as it allows Latias to safely exit the match after its stats have been lowered.

Set Details
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Rocky Helmet inflicts chip damage against foes that use contact moves, primarily physical attackers, such as Mega Kangaskhan, which takes double the damage due to Parental Bond. Levitate, while being Latias's only ability, gives it an immunity to Ground-type moves, providing Latias with even more opportunities to safely switch in. The Speed EVs and a Timid nature are used to allow Latias to get off its moves, particularly Reflect, before as many foes as possible. The remaining EVs are used to bolster Latias's overall bulk as much as possible, allowing it an easier time of walling foes.

Usage Tips
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This set aims to beat non-Dark-type physical attackers while also providing support for Latias's teammates. You should mostly pick Latias at Team Preview when you want to bring a setup sweeper that would benefit from Latias's support. Another example is when a specially defensive partner needs Latias to defeat the physical attackers that it cannot alone. This is because a Latias without Trick or much offensive presence otherwise struggles to accomplish much outside of these scenarios. This set deals especially well with Mega Kangaskhan because of Parental Bond forcing it to take two rounds of Rocky Helmet damage, particularly if you can switch it in on a weak attack such as Fake Out. Try to Reflect as early as possible and keep it up, as Latias's Defense stat is merely average without it. An exception is if you anticipate the opponent bringing in a special attacker, in which case you should instead opt to cripple them with Thunder Wave. If Healing Wish is chosen, use it when Latias is no longer useful and when an ally can better close out the battle.

Team Options
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Setup sweepers such as Swords Dance Mega Mawile and Scizor make the best partners, as Reflect helps them get off their setup moves and Thunder Wave consequently helps them sweep by ensuring they outspeed their potential threats. They're also useful against defensive foes such as Cresselia, Porygon2, Zapdos, and Calm Mind Suicune, and they both resist many of the types Latias is weak to, making them able to switch in extra safely. Power-Up Punch Mega Kangaskhan is another notable example, as Thunder Wave helps it outspeed foes around its very crowded base 100 Speed tier. Calm Mind Raikou is also a fantastic teammate, as Latias needs help to beat opposing bulky Water-types. Likewise, Electric-types in general such as Thundurus and Zapdos are good options, as they also provide a means of dealing with them.

Specially defensive Pokemon and Assault Vest users also complement this set well, as they can often wall the attackers that Latias cannot. Assault Vest Mamoswine appreciates the speed control Latias provides and can check Steel- and Dragon-types in return. Azumarill also makes a good Assault Vest user, and it can counter most Dark- and Dragon-types easily. Heatran functions very well with a specially defensive variant of its stall set, and its typing complements Latias's well. Pokemon that deal with the Dark- and Steel-types that wall Latias's only attacking move make good offensive partners. Fighting-types such as Blaziken and Mega Heracross are able to deal with said Dark- and Steel-types, for example. Mega Heracross particularly enjoys the speed control provided by Thunder Wave due to its merely average Speed. Fire-types such as Heatran, Talonflame, and Rotom-H provide a resistance to Fairy and can beat Steel-types. Landorus-T also beats Steel-types handily, and its Intimidate ability further improves Latias's bulk.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Thunderbolt and Ice Beam are individual options for the excellent coverage they provide or as a pair to complete the popular BoltBeam combination. Shadow Ball helps Latias beat opposing Psychic-types, such as Cresselia, that it can otherwise struggle with. It also helps handle Aegislash, which, while otherwise problematic, is 2HKOed with a Choice Specs-boosted Shadow Ball. Energy Ball is an alternative to Thunderbolt that also beats Ground-types like Swampert. Grass Knot could also be used for this purpose, but it does little damage to lighter foes such as Rotom-W and Gastrodon. However, a particular quirk of Grass Knot is that +1 Mega Latias can OHKO maximum HP Mega Tyranitar with it. Hidden Power Fire can be used to deal with Steel-types like Scizor and Ferrothorn. Stored Power can be used in place of Psyshock on the Calm Mind set for the potential to hit even harder once Mega Latias has set up, though it comes at the cost of dealing very poor damage without consecutive boosts. This can work particularly well if you have teammates to Baton Pass boosts so that Latias is less dependent on accumulating them itself. Charm is an alternative to Reflect on the physically defensive set, as the ability to use it multiple times allows Latias to wall a single target harder; however, Reflect is generally more consistent and isn't reset when the opponent switches out. Life Orb can be used over Choice Specs to boost Latias's power while retaining the ability to change moves; however, such a set requires running another coverage move or Roost instead of Trick. Notably, a big selling point of Life Orb is that Latias can use Healing Wish immediately after using Draco Meteor, which can be great for momentum. Choice Scarf is another alternative to Choice Specs that trades power for the ability to outspeed faster foes. Lum Berry can help to check users of crippling status such as Thunder Wave Thundurus and Spore Breloom. Latiasite can be used in the physically defensive set if your team doesn't have a Mega Pokemon already, but note that this means it can't chip at Mega Kangaskhan with Rocky Helmet. Safety Goggles can be used specifically for users of powder moves such as Breloom and Venusaur to help beat them one-on-one.

Checks and Counters
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**Dragon-type Pokemon**: Although Latias can outspeed and hit most of them super effectively, many Dragons are still situationally problematic for it. Garchomp, for example, more often than not uses either Focus Sash or Choice Scarf, both of which allow it to trade positively with Latias. Salamence can outspeed Latias after Mega Evolving if it uses a Jolly nature and can then fire off a strong Dragon-type move to OHKO it. Dragonite's Multiscale allows it to take a single hit from Latias and then proceed to either Dragon Dance or OHKO it back. However, note that a Choice Specs-boosted Draco Meteor can still OHKO Dragonite through its Multiscale.

**Dark-type Pokemon**: Dark-types are immune to Latias's Psychic-type moves and can hit it super effectively with their STAB attacks. Choice Scarf Hydreigon is common and has a chance to OHKO even bulkier Latias sets with a high-powered Draco Meteor. Tyranitar takes little damage from any of Latias's attacks thanks to the sand boosting its Special Defense, and its access to Pursuit means Latias cannot switch out safely against it. Mega Sableye is one of the few defensive Pokemon capable of taking on the Choice Specs set thanks to its immunity to Trick and ability to deal good damage with either Foul Play or Snarl.

**Fairy-type Pokemon**: Fairy-types are immune to Dragon-type attacks, and their access to high-powered moves means they can deal a lot of damage to Latias. Mega Mawile resists Psychic thanks to its Steel typing and can use Sucker Punch to strike first. Gardevoir also resists Psychic and can deal massive damage even through Substitute with Hyper Voice. Sylveon likewise gets access to Pixilate-boosted Hyper Voice, and it has an equally as high Special Defense stat it can use to wall Latias. However, it does need to be wary of a Choice Specs-boosted Psyshock, which can still 2HKO it. Mega Altaria also gets Hyper Voice, and its high defenses means it's difficult to 2HKO. Klefki takes little damage from either of Latias's STAB moves, and it can whittle away at it with a combination of Swagger and Foul Play.

**Steel-type Pokemon**: As Steel-types resist both Dragon- and Psychic-type attacks, they're able to easily wall Latias. Aegislash's high defenses in Shield forme and its Ghost typing allow it to both take hits well and strike back hard. Ferrothorn's Gyro Ball deals a lot of damage to Latias as a result of it being so fast. Heatran, particularly the Choice Specs variant, can dish out good damage with Flash Cannon. It should beware of a Choice Specs-boosted Surf, however, as this can 2HKO even bulkier variants. Mega Lucario outspeeds Latias and can deal large damage with Iron Tail, OHKOing it after a Swords Dance boost. Scizor takes little damage from either of Latias's STAB moves and easily OHKOes even bulky sets with Bug Bite.

**Speed Control**: Almost all variants of Latias rely on their high Speed, which makes them vulnerable to various forms of speed control. Thunder Wave from Pokemon such as Thundurus, Rotom-W, and Cresselia quarters Latias's Speed. The latter two should be wary against Calm Mind variants however, as they can merely end up as setup fodder. Icy Wind from users such as Gengar and Suicune hits Latias super effectively and lowers its Speed by one stage. Trick Room set by Pokemon such as Cresselia, Porygon2, and Slowbro allows slower Pokemon to move first.
 
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[OVERVIEW]

Your opening sentence can use more work. What does it do in the metagame? (ROLE?) Elaborate a bit more on its superior bulk, like potentially surviving a Shadow Ball from Mega Gengar.
-This is particularly advantageous for outspeeding the majority of Dragons, such as Garchomp and Hydreigon.
Since a good portion of the Mega Salamence run Adamant, and how most of them come in their default form, it's probably a better mention than Hydreigon (up to you though).
-Generally outclassed by Latios offensively, as it can take advantage of a higher Special Attack stat in that role.
Just "faces competition" is fine. Outclassed isn't really the right word here I think. Latios can't set up well as Latias, while Hydreigon has access to Taunt, it lacks any boosting moves of its own. Both of them still have their advantages over Latias though.
-Being walled by both Dark- and Fairy-types can create some polarizing match-ups straight from team preview.
Steel-types should be mentioned in there somewhere. (Mega Mawile, Aegislash, Ferrothorn, Scizor)

[SET]

name: Mega Calm Mind
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Psyshock
move 3: Roost
move 4: Substitute / Draco Meteor
item: Latiasite
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

Optional: I slashed Draco on there, being the top move used by Latias. You also don't wanna be in an awkward situation where you face Garchomp or Salamence at some point but lack the power to do anything to them. Did some quick calcs and Draco can OHKO both mons. But Substitute allows you to set up safely against defensive threats, both of them are cool options.

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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Instead of saying "Calm Mind users" just put Suicune there being one of the most common CM user out there.
-Substitute prevents status moves such as Toxic and Thunder Wave from crippling Latias's sweeping capability.
Against defensive threats mainly. Also blocks Scald burns, Spore from Breloom, etc.

Usage Tips
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To expand this section further:
Mega Latias becomes extremely dangerous with one or two boosts under its belt, powerful special attackers such as Aegislash, Greninja and Sylveon can no longer 2HKO.
For a list of mons Mega Latias can potentially set up on:
Mega Charizard Y (stall out the Sun).
Rotom-W (no need to fear Trick).
All other defensive mons: Cresselia, Porygon2, Zapdos, BRO.
Note: Be careful when playing CM wars with Suicune, because almost 30% carry Roar. But like you said, better to be brought out late game to "close out the match".


Team Options
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-Landorus-T also gets Stealth Rock, which breaks Focus Sash and therefore helps Latias pick up OHKOs.
Such as? FYI, Mega Latias only OHKOs Breloom 56.3% of the time even with rocks on the field.
Greninja deserves a mention somewhere. I'm looking at the list of things that defeated Latias and Greninja threatens more than half of them.

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Psychic / Psyshock
move 3: Surf / Healing Wish
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

Note: You mention Healing Wish TWICE in this set, so might as well slash it in.

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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When you talk about Psychic and Psyshock, mention Mega Venusaur and AV Conkeldurr so that you have an example or two to use.

Set Details
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-A Modest nature could be used to deal more damage, but it then misses out on outspeeding key threats.
A little too vague. What threats does it miss out in outspeeding? What OHKOs does it secure if running Modest?

Usage Tips
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-This set aims to deal as much damage as possible, not necessarily focusing on super effective hits. Latias resists the majority of targets this set beats, so don't be overly concerned over taking a few hits.
The next two sentences about Psyshock is fantastic, but these earlier two sentences are a bit confusing. Can you try to reword it somehow or provide more examples at what you're trying to say? (Second QC)

Team Options
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When you talk about Talonflame, do mention that it helps Latias get rid of Blaziken, something this set struggles with (Speed Boost + Knock Off = OHKO).
Add Stealth Rock to the Ground-types you mentioned, it's particularly important for this set as Sash Breloom can be so annoying (Trick somewhat lessens this problem but it's still annoying).


[SET]
name: Physically Defensive
move 1: Psychic
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Thunder Wave
move 4: Roost
item: Rocky Helmet
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

Things to consider: As I mentioned earlier, Draco is a viable slash if you want to OHKO Garchomp, but running mono Dragon can risky though, up to you. If your team struggles to break through defensive threats like Cresselia and Porygon2, you can slash Toxic next to Thunder Wave.

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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When you talk about walling physical attackers, make sure to mention Mega Kangaskhan since Parental Bond Rocky Helmet is a big thing.
If you decide to slash Draco as an alternative over Psychic, you can add that point about Healing Wish, how it allows Latias to exist the match safely after dropping a Draco or setting up Reflect.


[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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Add Blaziken in as a potential target for Thunder Wave.

Set Details
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-A Bold nature and EVs shifted from Speed into Defense are an option if you'd prefer even more bulk.
An example or two? You lose the ability to get up an early Reflect on some mons which is disappointing considering 110 is pretty good Speed tier, AND you will fail to outspeed Garchomp. (Do note that Bold nature only has 1.5% usage.)

Usage Tips
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-This set aims to beat non Dark-type physical attackers while also providing support for Latias's teammates.
Examples will help expand this section better. When should you use this Latias and when you should bench it? Mono attacking Latias with no Trick or offensive presence leaves you very vulnerable in certain situations. (I'll leave up to you or second QC.)

Team Options
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As I mentioned above, you're going to be walled by defensive mons if you lack Toxic to break them down. Things that can set up on defensive threats such as Cresselia, Porygon2, Zapdos, CM Suicune are great to have. With that said, CM Raikou is a fantastic teammate as you need things that can beat bulky Water-types, making Thundurus and Zapdos viable options too.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Mention Aegislash when you talk about Shadow Ball.
-Charm could be used in place of Reflect on the physically defensive set, but Reflect is more consistent.
Never heard of/seen it, consider removing (2.7% usage). (Second QC)
Haven't used a lot of these Other Options myself so I guess I'll leave that to next QC member.


Checks and Counters
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Under Dark-types, Umbreon gets crippled by the Trick set. Instead, you should put Mega Sableye or Weavile/Mega Gyarados there.
Klefki and Mega Altaria are worth adding for Fairy-types.
Mega Lucario is a powerful Fighting/Steel-type that deserves a mention under Steel-types or somewhere. (Outspeeds Latias and +2 Iron Tail OHKOs.) So does Mega Scizor.

I'm unsure what to do with the **Speed Control** and **Utility** tags. Pretty much everything can be used under these categories. Rotom-W and Cresselia aren't problems for Latias bar the bulky set, they are just setup fodder for the Mega CM variant. Shadow Ball > Icy Wind on Gengar. A lot mons struggle with Trick Room also, but note that they get crippled by Trick. Instead, you should focus on more specific mons in general. (Second QC)


Comments
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Some minor things to fix, and make sure to give examples as often as possible, for the new readers.
You're pretty good with implementing stuff/providing details so feel free to write it up after you've gone over the stuff in red.
I'm assuming you have exams coming up too, so good luck.


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Implemented, thanks for the check! I decided not to add Draco Meteor to the CM set, but I did add it to the defensive one. Also on the defensive set, I didn't want to add Toxic as a slash given how low in usage it is, but I mentioned it in Moves as an alternative instead. I ended up just removing the **Utility** tag as, the more I thought about it, the more I realised most of the moves there were only theoretically an issue and don't actually see much usage on relevent foes. I mentioned Icy Wind on Gengar because Focus Sash Gengar speed ties with it and a combination of Icy Wind + Shadow Ball is therefore safer against offensive Latias variants than risking a 50:50 2HKOing with Shadow Ball.

Going to try and finish the write up today.
 
[OVERVIEW]

Latias is able to serve as either a late-game sweeper, or as a check to an array of foes such as slower Dragons or physical attackers. This is, in part, thanks to its better defensive stats and access to Healing Wish giving it a niche over the generally preferred Latios. Those defenses, for example, allow it to potentially take a Shadow Ball from Mega Gengar and KO it in return. Further, in combination with the recovery granted by Roost, Latias is able to stick around for extended periods; which resistances to common types and a Ground immunity, thanks to Levitate, help with. Its high base Speed allows it to outpace the majority of threats in the metagame, often giving it the initiative. This is particularly advantageous for outspeeding most Dragons, such as Garchomp and Mega Salamence, the latter of which often does not use a speed bosting nature. A wide support movepool, including moves such as Energy Ball and Shadow Ball, give it the means to deal with a variety of foes, making it somewhat unpredictable. For example, Azumarill, while ordinarily problematic, is 2HKOed by a Choice Specs-boosted Energy Ball.

Take out the mentions of Energy Ball

Latias does still, however, face competition from Latios offensively, as Latios can take advantage of a higher Special Attack stat in that role. Latios is also not the only Dragon-type it faces competition from. Hydreigon, for example, is another special attacking Dragon-type that hits hard. Being walled by both Dark- and Fairy-types can create some polarizing match-ups straight from team preview. Steel-types also resist both of Latias's STABs, making foes such as Mega Mawile, Aegislash, Ferrothorn, and Scizor equally problematic. Overall, Latias is very versatile and can therefore perform well on many different types of team, but its user should ensure it's not outclassed in doing so.

[SET]
name: Mega Calm Mind
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Psyshock
move 3: Substitute / Draco Meteor / Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Roost
item: Latiasite
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

I think having some other moves is viable on CM sets.

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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Calm Mind boosts Latias's Special Attack and Special Defense by one stage, giving it the means to set up on the foe. Psyshock is the STAB of choice due to dealing a consistent amount of damage at high accuracy. It also has the quirk of hitting the target's Defense stat, which is part of the reason that it generally outclasses Psychic, as it therefore threatens Calm Mind Suicune more. Substitute is most effective against defensive threats, giving Latias the option of blocking crippling status from inhibiting its sweep. Toxic and Thunder Wave are the prime examples of this, but Scald burns and Spore from Breloom can also be problematic. It also provides a means to prevent the use of Sucker Punch from foes such as Mega Kangaskhan. Roost can help keep Latias healthy by covering 50% of its HP, compensating for damage recieved from foes and Substitute.

Set Details
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Latiasite allows Latias to mega evolve, which significantly improves its stats and, therefore, its ability to sweep through teams. While Latias has no choice in the matter, Levitate is a good ability as it grants it an immunity to Ground-type moves and this therefore provides more opportunities for Latias to set up. The Speed EVs and Timid nature make Latias as fast as possible, allowing it to outpace as many foes as possible. The remaining EVs are invested into HP to boost Latias's general bulk as much as possible after the previous target has been reached. While EVs can be moved out of Speed to improve Latias's bulk, such as to 196 EVs to outspeed Garchomp, this is not recommended, as it's generally counterproductive to sweeping.

Usage Tips
========

This set aims to begin setting up to close out the battle once any problematic foes have been eliminated. Mega Latias after gaining a few boosts is dangerous, as special attackers such as Aegislash, Greninja, and Sylveon will no longer be able to 2HKO it. However, don't try to force this. Leave Latias on the bench if you don't believe setting up to be a reasonable expectation. Focus on bringing checks to Steel-, Fairy-, and Dark-types, as they will be the most problematic for Latias. Mega Charizard Y and Rotom-W are good examples of set up fodder, as Latias can stall out Charizard's Drought and its access to Substitute means it doesn't fear Trick from Rotom. (It's a mega so it doesn't fear Trick anyway) Other defensive Pokemon such as Cresselia, Porygon2, Zapdos, and Slowbro also make good targets to set up on. Suicune is another example, but bear in mind that Roar is reasonably common and it can therefore phase Latias out. Be sure to mega evolve as soon as possible to take advantage of Mega Latias's higher defensive stats. Try to keep Substitute up as much as possible in order to block crippling status from ruining your game plan. It's also recommended to do this as a way of preventing critical hits from KOing Latias through its Special Defense boosts.

Team Options
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As this set is completely walled by Dark-types, teammates that can remove them for Latias are essential. Using a second mega such as Mega Mawile, Mega Heracross, or Mega Scizor can offer alternatives for when Latias faces a very poor match-up as each handle the majority of foes Latias struggles against. (probably give some example of the 'foes Latias struggles against' so people can tell when not to bring it) Azumarill has a great match-up against Dark-types as it resists their moves and can hit the majority of them super effectively with Play Rough. Blaziken can likewise handle Dark-types well and, in return, appreciates Latias as a defensive switch-in due to its frailty. Protean Greninja gets STAB Low Kick to likewise threaten Dark-types, amongst a variety of other coverage, such as Gunk Shot and Ice Beam, that allow it to threaten other foes which threaten Latias. Non-mega Scizor, as Bug-type, also makes a great partner as it deals with both Dark- and Fairy-types excellently. Physically defensive Scizor makes a particularly good partner, as it can handle physical attackers in general. Ferrothorn accomplishes the same in handling Fairy-types and serving as a great check to physical attackers. Intimidate users such as Landorus-T and Gyarados equally help to keep physical attackers in check by lowering their Attack stat. Landorus-T also gets access to Stealth Rock, which breaks Focus Sash and therefore helps boosted Latias pick up OHKOes against foes such as Breloom. Will-O-Wisp users such as Heatran, Talonflame, and Rotom-W can cut opposing Attack stats in half by burning the foe. The former two, being Fire-types, also provide the benefit of resisting Fairy-type attacks and the ability to check Steel-types.

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Psychic / Psyshock
move 3: Trick
move 4: Surf / Healing Wish
item: Choice Specs
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Draco Meteor is Latias's hardest hitting attack, dealing massive damage when combined with the boost from Choice Specs. It does, however, come with the drawback of lowering Latias's Special Attack by two stages. Psychic is an alternative STAB that deals consistent damage at a reasonable base power and high accuracy. Psyshock can be used instead if you'd prefer to have the option of hitting a foe's potentially lower Defense. For example, Psychic hits foes like Mega Venusaur harder, but Psyshock deals with Assault Vest users such as Conkeldurr better. Trick can disable a defensive foe by locking them into a single move, making them easy to eliminate. Surf hits many of the targets that Latias struggles against, such as Tyranitar and Heatran, super effectively. Healing Wish can be used over Surf to give Latias more late-game utility should you find that more valuable. Give some examples of nice pokemon to healing wish up like Mawile, Kanga or something. Also probably mention this is a good move it has over Latios. I think making it clear what Latias offers over Latios is important for this set since Latios so commonly uses Specs and is more popular.

Set Details
========

Choice Specs provides the largest increase to Latias's damage possible, albeit while locking it into a single move. Levitate is Latias's only ability, but the immunity to Ground-type moves it grants is great for giving it more opportunities to switch-in and deal damage. The Speed EVs and Timid nature allow Latias to outpace as many threats as possible. The remaining EVs are used to boost Latias's Special Attack, improving damage output. A Modest nature may be tempting to deal even more damage, allowing it to OHKO foes such as 4 HP Mega Kangaskhan with Draco Meteor. However, it then misses out on outspeeding key threats around the base 100 Speed mark such as Garchomp, generally making it the poorer option.

Usage Tips
========

This set aims to deal as much damage as possible, not necessarily focusing on super effective hits. This is because a Choice Specs-boosted Draco Meteor deals a lot of damage even on neutral hits. As Draco Meteor will often be the best choice of move, Latias will therefore be switching in and out a lot to reset the stat drops associated with it. Its good defenses and plentiful resistances compliment this playstyle, as they make switching in much easier. (I would mention that this is part of what gives Latias a niche over Latios as a Specs user) Do try to think a turn ahead when using Draco Meteor, however, as it's easy to fall into the trap of losing too much momentum. Get familiar with predicting foes with high Special Defense to switch in and use Psyshock, as it can often 2HKO them. Sylveon, for example, would normally be a safe switch in against Latias, but is 2HKOed by Psyshock. Chansey is an exception, as it can take a Psyshock relatively easily and would be better crippled by the use of Trick. If using Healing Wish, wait until Latias is no longer useful, or if a crippled ally could better close out the battle.

Team Options
========

Teammates that can deal with types that resist Latias's STABs, such as Dark- and Fairy-types, make excellent allies. Mega Mawile and Scizor are excellent examples of this, as they can check both of those types with their STABs. Physical Greninja can use a combination of Low Kick and Gunk Shot to accomplish something similar. However, it does have difficulty switching into Fairy-types directly, as it's natively a Dark-type. Azumarill is another Fairy-type that does a good job at checking Dark-types. Both of them being immune to Dragon-type attacks also makes them easy to switch in to opposing Dragons. In a similar light, Ferrothorn makes another good Steel-type able to deal well with opposing Fairy-types. Fighting-types such as Blaziken and Mega Heracross are also useful for beating Dark-types, and are further able to beat Steel-types, which are problematic due to resisting both of Latias's STABs. Fire-types such as Heatran, Talonflame, and Rotom-H equally beat Steel-types and provide a resistance to Fairy. Talonflame is additionally useful as a check against Blaziken, which Latias struggles against given the combination of Speed Boost and Knock Off. Ground-types such as Landorus-T and Mamoswine likewise hit Steel-types super effectively, although the latter is admittedly hit super effectively by them. Both can also provide Stealth Rock support, which is useful for breaking the Focus Sash of users such as Breloom.

[SET]
name: Physically Defensive
move 1: Psychic / Draco Meteor
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Thunder Wave
move 4: Roost
item: Rocky Helmet
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Psychic is used to provide Latias with a consistent STAB move with reasonable power and high accuracy. Draco Meteor has the ability to pick up OHKOes against foes such as Garchomp, but sustained damage output is also affected. Reflect reduces the damage Latias's team takes for 5 turns, making it better able to wall physical attackers. Thunder Wave provides a form of speed control and reduces the chance the foe has to move by 25%. This is useful for crippling threats such as Blaziken who, while ordinarily very fast thanks to Speed Boost, struggles once that advantage has been taken away. Toxic could be used in place of Thunder Wave if your team particularly struggles against defensive threats like Cresselia and Porygon2. Roost recovers 50% of Latias's HP, which allows it to continue racking up chip damage with Rocky Helmet. Mega Kangaskhan is an excellent example of why Roost is so useful, as Parental Bond causes it to take twice the damage by hitting Latias twice each turn. Healing Wish could be used over Roost if you'd prefer Latias simply went down after doing its job. This synergises particularly well with Draco Meteor, as it allows Latias to exit the match gracefully after its stats have been lowered.

Set Details
========

Rocky Helmet inflicts chip damage against foes that use contact moves; primarily physical attackers. Levitate, while being Latias's only ability, gives it an immunity to Ground-type moves, providing Latias with even even more opportunities to safely switch in. The Speed EVs and Timid nature are used to allow Latias to get off its moves, particularly Reflect, before as many foes as possible. The remaining EVs are used to bolster Latias's overall bulk as much as possible, allowing it an easier time of walling foes.

Usage Tips
========

This set aims to beat non Dark-type physical attackers while also providing support for Latias's teammates. You should mostly pick Latias at team preview when you want to bring a setup sweeper that would benefit from Latias's support. Another example is when a specially defensive partner needs Latias to defeat the physical attackers that it cannot alone. This is because a Latias without Trick or much offensive presence otherwise struggles to accomplish much outside of these scenarios. This set deals especially well with Mega Kangaskhan because of Parental Bond, especially if you can switch it in on a weak attack such as Fake Out. Try to Reflect as early as possible and keep it up, as Latias's Defense stat is merely average without it. An exception is if you anticipate the opponent bringing in a special attacker, in which you should instead opt to cripple them with Thunder Wave. If Healing Wish is chosen, use it when Latias is no longer useful and an ally can better close out the battle.

Team Options
========

Setup users make the best partners, as Reflect helps them get off their set up moves and Thunder Wave consequently helps them sweep by ensuring they outspeed their potential threats. They're also useful against defensive foes such as Cresselia, Porygon2, Zapdos, and Calm Mind Suicune. Swords Dance Mega Mawile and Scizor are great examples of this, as their resistances to many of the types Latias is weak to make them able to switch-in extra safely. Power-Up Punch Mega Kangaskhan is another notable example, as Thunder Wave helps it outspeed foes around its very competitive base 100 speed tier. Calm Mind Raikou is also a fantastic teammate, as Latias needs help to beat opposing bulky Water-types. Likewise, Electric-types in general such as Thundurus and Zapdos are good options as they also provide a means of dealing with them.

Specially defensive Pokemon also compliment this set well, as each can wall the attackers that the other cannot. Assault Vest users in general make good candidates for this, as the item boosts their Special Defense. Assault Vest Mamoswine appreciates the speed control Latias provides and can check Steel- and Dragon-types for Latias. Azumarill also makes a good Assault Vest user, and can counter most Dark- and Dragon-types easily. Heatran functions very well with a specially defensive variant of its Stall set, and its typing compliments Latias's well. Pokemon that deal with the Dark- and Steel-types that wall Latias's only attacking move make good offensive partners. Fighting-types such as Blaziken and Mega Heracross are able to deal with both Dark- and Steel-types, for example. Mega Heracross particularly enjoys the speed control provided by Thunder Wave, due to its merely average Speed stat. Fire-types such as Heatran, Talonflame, and Rotom-H provide a resistance to Fairy and can beat Steel-types. Landorus-T also beats Steel-types handily, and its Intimidate ability further improves Latias's bulk.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Dragon Pulse provides the option of using a Dragon-type attack that doesn't lower Special Attack, but Draco Meteor is generally preferred as it allows Latias to pick up immediate OHKOes while Dragon Pulse does not. Thunderbolt and Ice Beam are options individually for the excellent coverage they provide, or as a pair to complete the infamous BoltBeam combination. Shadow Ball helps Latias beat opposing Psychic-types such as Cresselia that it can otherwise struggle with. It also helps handle Aegislash which, while otherwise problematic, is 2HKOed with Choice Specs held. Energy Ball is an alternative to Thunderbolt that also beats Ground-types like Swampert. Grass Knot could also be used for this purpose, but it does little damage to lighter foes such as Rotom-W and Gastrodon. Stored Power can be used in place of Psyshock on the Calm Mind set for the potential to hit even harder once set up(probably make a metion of using baton pass teammates to help get a lot of boosts), at the cost of dealing very poor damage without consecutive boosts. Charm is an alternative to Reflect on the physically defensive set as the ability to use it multiple times allows Latias to wall a single target harder, however, Reflect is generally more consistent and isn't guaranteed to be made inconsequential by the opponent switching out. Life Orb can be used over Choice Specs to boost Latias's offense while retaining the ability to change moves; just also drop Trick for another coverage move or Roost. Choice Scarf is another alternative to Choice Specs that trades power for the ability to outspeed faster foes. Lum Berry can help to check users of crippling status such as Thunder Wave Thundurus and Spore Breloom. Safety Goggles is a tech specificly for users of powder moves such as Breloom and Venusaur to help beat them 1-on-1.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Dragon-type Pokemon**: Although Latias can outspeed and hit most of them super effectively, many Dragons are still situationally problematic for it. Garchomp, for example, more often than not uses one of either Focus Sash or Choice Scarf, both of which allow it to trade positively with Latias. Salamence can outspeed Latias after mega evolving if it uses a Jolly nature and can then fire off a strong Dragon-type move to KO it. Dragonite's Multiscale allows it to take a single hit from Latias and then proceed to either Dragon Dance or KO it back(mention that Specs Draco can OHKO through scale tho).

**Dark-type Pokemon**: Dark-types are immune to Latias's Psychic-type moves and can hit it super effectively with their STAB attacks. Choice Scarf Hydreigon is common and has a chance to OHKO even bulkier Latias sets with a high-powered Draco Meteor. Tyranitar takes little damage from any of Latias's attacks thanks to the Sand boosting its Special Defense(mention against Tyranitar you have to watch out for pursuit). Mega Sableye is one of the few defensive Pokemon capable of taking on the Choice Specs set thanks to its immunity to Trick and can deal good damage with either Foul Play or Snarl.

**Fairy-type Pokemon**: Fairy-types are immune to Dragon-type attacks and their frequent access to high powered moves means they can deal a lot of damage to Latias. Mega Mawile resists Psychic thanks to its Steel typing and can use Sucker Punch to strike first. Gardevoir also resists Psychic and can deal massive damage even through Substitute with Hyper Voice. Sylveon likewise gets access to Pixilate Hyper Voice, and has an equally high Special Defense stat it can use to wall Latias. However, it does need to be wary of a Choice Specs-boosted Psyshock, which can still 2HKO it. Mega Altaria also gets Hyper Voice, and its high defenses means it's difficult to 2HKO. Klefki takes little damage from either of Latias's STABs and it can whittle away at it with a combination of Swagger and Foul Play.

**Steel-type Pokemon**: As Steel-types resist both Dragon- and Psychic-type attacks they're able to easily wall Latias. Aegislash's high defenses in Shield-forme, and its Ghost-typing, allow it to both take hits well and strike back hard. Ferrothorn's Gyro Ball deals a lot of damage to Latias as a result of it being so fast. Heatran, particularly the Choice Specs variant, has few problems taking hits and dishing back good damage. It should beware of a Choice Specs-boosted Surf, however, as this can 2HKO even bulkier Heatran. Mega Lucario outspeeds Latias and can deal large damage with Iron Tail; OHKOing it after a Swords Dance boost. Scizor takes little damage from either of Latias's STABs and easily OHKOes even bulky sets with Bug Bite.

**Speed Control**: Almost all variants of Latias rely on their high Speed, and this therefore makes them vulnerable to various forms of speed control. Thunder Wave from Pokemon such as Thundurus, Rotom-W, and Cresselia cuts Latias's speed in quarter. The latter two should be wary against Calm Mind variants, however, as they can merely end up as setup fodder. Icy Wind from users such as Gengar and Suicune hit Latias super effectively and lower its Speed by one stage. Trick Room set by Pokemon such as Cresselia, Porygon2, and Slowbro allow slower Pokemon to move first.
just a few comments in bold, looks pretty good man. nice job.

i'd like to have at least one other QC member take a look at this though before giving a last check, as i'm not incredibly experienced with latias.
 
just a few comments in bold, looks pretty good man. nice job.

i'd like to have at least one other QC member take a look at this though before giving a last check, as i'm not incredibly experienced with latias.
Implemented! With regards to the move slashes on the CM Set: I'm going to be honest, I'm a little biased here, as every time I've dropped Substitute in testing I've always regretted it. I didn't want to add Hidden Power since its usage is so low, but I think a Dragon-type attack has merit. Hopefully you don't mind, but I opted to add Dragon Pulse over Draco Meteor, since Latias should generally only be brought out during the late-game when you have the opportunity to setup at least one Calm Mind, at which point you OHKO opposing Dragons anyway.
 
Implemented! With regards to the move slashes on the CM Set: I'm going to be honest, I'm a little biased here, as every time I've dropped Substitute in testing I've always regretted it. I didn't want to add Hidden Power since its usage is so low, but I think a Dragon-type attack has merit. Hopefully you don't mind, but I opted to add Dragon Pulse over Draco Meteor, since Latias should generally only be brought out during the late-game when you have the opportunity to setup at least one Calm Mind, at which point you OHKO opposing Dragons anyway.
i think there's other ways to play it than just late game, CM with draco offers a lot of midgame potential to wallbreak really well. and ive seen hp fire on some jap teams that have done well, if anything it offers way better coverage than dragon moves do. and without sub you're generally going to be playing more offensively rather than try to CM till the game ends.
 
i think there's other ways to play it than just late game, CM with draco offers a lot of midgame potential to wallbreak really well. and ive seen hp fire on some jap teams that have done well, if anything it offers way better coverage than dragon moves do. and without sub you're generally going to be playing more offensively rather than try to CM till the game ends.
Added.
 
Wow, I love this. Hope it's ok to post here.

First off, kudos to you on picking Latias instead of Latios to write about. I like her better. Sure Latios has more SpA, but only by a bit, while Latias has the same amount over Latios in SpD AND 10 more base Def, instead of 10 Atk which is usually just detrimental cuz SwagPlay stuff.

"A wide support movepool, including moves such as Thunderbolt and Shadow Ball, give it the means to deal with a variety of foes, making it somewhat unpredictable."

Pretty sure no one caught this bit. It's a really little thing, but while Latias has a good support movepool, you're mentioning attacks as examples of it, which doesn't make sense.

Other than that, there are a few other options I'd mention(tho I'm nobody so don't feel pressured to include them XD.)

Refresh and Stored Power both seem reasonable to me on the first set which is CM. Refresh gets rid of status, which seems ok over sub which is mainly to avoid it in the first place. Stored Power works when you are going to be boosting so much.

Grass Knot and Energy Ball seem ok on the Specs set, or just under other options. Grass coverage can be really great, and no matter what you can't hit everything(and it's specs so you're locked in.) They don't see much use either, so she's surprise value. I find it interesting that Latias runs Grass Knot more often than Latios runs Grass Knot or Energy Ball(still only 3.3% tho,) even though Energy Ball is not in her top 20 moves. Strangely Latios runs Energy Ball slightly more often than Grass Knot. I wonder if there's a good reason for that.

I'm a bit on the fence about it, but I think Mist Ball could at least be a lesser option. It's a 70 BP Psychic with a third the PP, but it has a 50% chance to drop the foe's SpA. Prolly really stupid to mention it tho since Specs wants more power and can't capitalize on the lowered SpA as well, while bulky ones need the higher PP.

I also think Reflect Type is worth a mention. Latias has quite a few weaknesses, and Reflect Type can remedy that. Against stuff like Venu and Breloom it can block Leech Seed or Spore, and I'm sure there are many more examples of where it's good I'm just not thinking of. Roar might also be worth a mention, tho I don't think it's that good really.

Anyways, good job. I'm sure you'll get your second QC regardless of if you include any of my ideas or not.
 
Wow, I love this. Hope it's ok to post here.

First off, kudos to you on picking Latias instead of Latios to write about. I like her better. Sure Latios has more SpA, but only by a bit, while Latias has the same amount over Latios in SpD AND 10 more base Def, instead of 10 Atk which is usually just detrimental cuz SwagPlay stuff.

"A wide support movepool, including moves such as Thunderbolt and Shadow Ball, give it the means to deal with a variety of foes, making it somewhat unpredictable."

Pretty sure no one caught this bit. It's a really little thing, but while Latias has a good support movepool, you're mentioning attacks as examples of it, which doesn't make sense.

Other than that, there are a few other options I'd mention(tho I'm nobody so don't feel pressured to include them XD.)

Refresh and Stored Power both seem reasonable to me on the first set which is CM. Refresh gets rid of status, which seems ok over sub which is mainly to avoid it in the first place. Stored Power works when you are going to be boosting so much.

Grass Knot and Energy Ball seem ok on the Specs set, or just under other options. Grass coverage can be really great, and no matter what you can't hit everything(and it's specs so you're locked in.) They don't see much use either, so she's surprise value. I find it interesting that Latias runs Grass Knot more often than Latios runs Grass Knot or Energy Ball(still only 3.3% tho,) even though Energy Ball is not in her top 20 moves. Strangely Latios runs Energy Ball slightly more often than Grass Knot. I wonder if there's a good reason for that.

I'm a bit on the fence about it, but I think Mist Ball could at least be a lesser option. It's a 70 BP Psychic with a third the PP, but it has a 50% chance to drop the foe's SpA. Prolly really stupid to mention it tho since Specs wants more power and can't capitalize on the lowered SpA as well, while bulky ones need the higher PP.

I also think Reflect Type is worth a mention. Latias has quite a few weaknesses, and Reflect Type can remedy that. Against stuff like Venu and Breloom it can block Leech Seed or Spore, and I'm sure there are many more examples of where it's good I'm just not thinking of. Roar might also be worth a mention, tho I don't think it's that good really.

Anyways, good job. I'm sure you'll get your second QC regardless of if you include any of my ideas or not.
  1. I couldn't take Latios because it's already been done. Speaking personally though, I do like Latias a bit more.
  2. Good catch with regards to that sentence in the Overview! I actually wrote down "offensive movepool" in the skeleton but for some reason I changed it during the write-up. I'll have that fixed.
  3. I agree that Refresh and Stored Power are fine options on the Calm Mind set; I didn't include either on the main set because of their low usage, however I did mention Stored Power in Other Options.
  4. It's a similar story to the above as it is with Energy Ball and Grass Knot. Not enough usage to get a main set mention, but they've been given their space in Other Options.
  5. I don't think Mist Ball is a good move and I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary so I'm omitting it. It's a shame that has to be said about a signature move, but there it is.
  6. Again, Reflect Type and Roar don't have any usage as far as I know. I know Reflect Type is a thing in OU, but that's partially because Pursuit is more of a threat in that metagame.
 
  1. I couldn't take Latios because it's already been done. Speaking personally though, I do like Latias a bit more.
  2. Good catch with regards to that sentence in the Overview! I actually wrote down "offensive movepool" in the skeleton but for some reason I changed it during the write-up. I'll have that fixed.
  3. I agree that Refresh and Stored Power are fine options on the Calm Mind set; I didn't include either on the main set because of their low usage, however I did mention Stored Power in Other Options.
  4. It's a similar story to the above as it is with Energy Ball and Grass Knot. Not enough usage to get a main set mention, but they've been given their space in Other Options.
  5. I don't think Mist Ball is a good move and I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary so I'm omitting it. It's a shame that has to be said about a signature move, but there it is.
  6. Again, Reflect Type and Roar don't have any usage as far as I know. I know Reflect Type is a thing in OU, but that's partially because Pursuit is more of a threat in that metagame.
Sorry, I often miss things, which makes it ironic I caught that sentence in the Overview XD. Usage is a pretty big thing and it's good you're paying so much attention to it. But what about Dragon Pulse? It only sees use on 7.25% of Latias, but that's actually more than T-bolt.
 

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Sorry I'm so late in checking this, the Johto Classic article really ate up all my free time!

Anyways, I only have a few small nitpicks to add.

- In the overview, I think you should mention Mega Latias. Mainly, it gives gives Latias A LOT more bulk than Latios (and thus makes Latias a better Calm Minder), and that it can give stall teams a lot of trouble once Tyranitar is down. It also tends to be more versatile than Latias because of its better defenses.

-In either other options or on the defensive set, I'd mention that Latiasite is an option if your team doesn't have a mega evolution (because the bulk and power increase are nice), but note that this means you can't chip at Mega Kangaskhan with rocky helmet, which is a bummer.

-For the Grass Knot mention in other options, I'd mention that +1 Mega Latias 2HKOs max HP Mega Tyranitar with it, which is pretty cool since most TTar aren't gonna be able to OHKO Mega Latias with Crunch.

-When you mention Life Orb in other options, mention a big selling point is that you can use Healing Wish right after Draco Meteoring something, which can be huge momentum wise (honestly the only reason why I'm not asking you to slash it on the specs set and make it a general offensive set is because so few people use Life Orb lol)

EDIT: Forgot to mention, I think you should mention HP Fire in other options for steel types.

These are pretty minor changes though, so as far as I'm concerned, once you mention these nitpicks, its QC Approved 2/2!
 
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[OVERVIEW]

(Mega?) Latias is able to either serve as either a late-game sweeper, (RC) or as a check to an array of foes such as slower Dragons or physical attackers. (rp) This is, in part, thanks to its better defensive stats, which allows it to take a Shadow Ball from Mega Gengar, and access to Healing Wish, (AC) (Comment: If you're saying that its access to Healing Wish gives it a niche over Latios only, then remove the comma; if you're saying that its better defensive stats and access to HW give it a niche, keep the comma) giving it a niche over the generally preferred Latios. Latias's mega evolution's Mega Latias's bulk emphasises emphasizes those these (those = that, these = this, "this difference" > "that difference") differences even further, and it therefore gives giving (too wordy) stall teams an immense amount of trouble once Tyranitar has been eliminated, and makes making Latias more versatile than Latios. Those defenses, for example, allow it to potentially take a Shadow Ball from Mega Gengar and KO it in return. Furthermore, in combination with the recovery granted by Roost, Latias is able to stick around for extended periods of time;, (RSC AC) which resistances to common types and a Ground immunity, thanks to Levitate, (optional: obvious) help with. Its high base Speed allows it to outpace the majority of threats in the metagame, often giving it the initiative. This is particularly advantageous for outspeeding most Dragons, such as Garchomp and Mega Salamence, the latter of which often does not use a Speed-bosting nature. A wide offensive movepool, including moves such as Thunderbolt and Shadow Ball, gives it the means to deal with a variety of foes, making it somewhat unpredictable. For example, Azumarill, while ordinarily problematic, is 2HKOed by a Choice Specs-boosted Thunderbolt.

Mega? Latias does still, however, face competition from Mega? Latios offensively, as Mega? Latios can take advantage of a higher Special Attack stat in that role. Latios is also not the only Dragon-type it faces competition from. Hydreigon, for example, is another special attacking Dragon-type that hits hard. Being walled by both Dark- and Fairy-types can create some unfavorable polarizing match-ups straight from Team Preview. Steel-types also resist both of Mega? Latias's STAB moves STABs, making foes such as Mega Mawile, Aegislash, Ferrothorn, and Scizor equally problematic. Overall, Mega? Latias is very versatile and can therefore perform well on many different types of teams, but its user you should ensure it's not outclassed in doing so.

please prefix "Mega" to "Latias/Latios/anything else" when you are talking about its mega forme

[SET]
name: Mega Calm Mind
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Psyshock
move 3: Roost
move 4: Substitute / Draco Meteor
item: Latiasite
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Calm Mind boosts Mega Latias's Special Attack and Special Defense by one stage, giving it the means to set up on the foe. Psyshock is the STAB move of choice due to , as it deals dealing a consistent amount of damage at high accuracy. It also has the quirk of hitting the target's Defense stat, which is part of the reason that why it generally outclasses Psychic, as it therefore threatens Calm Mind Suicune more. Roost can help keep Mega Latias healthy by recovering 50% of its HP, compensating for damage received from foes and Substitute (Comment: you don't take damage from Sub afaik so change to "compensating for health lost by damage taken from foes and Substitute"). Substitute is most effective against defensive threats, giving Mega Latias the option of blocking crippling status, such as poison, paralysis, and burn, from inhibiting its sweep. Toxic and Thunder Wave are the prime examples of this, but Scald burns and Spore from Breloom can also be problematic. It also provides a means to prevent the use of Sucker Punch from foes such as Mega Kangaskhan. Draco Meteor can be used instead to provide Latias with some mid-game wallbreaking potential.

Set Details
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Latiasite allows Latias to Mega Evolve, which significantly improves its stats and, therefore, (Comment: [optional] technically, this isn't wrong, but I personally don't like having to stop here and removing it makes the sentence sounds less weird to be honest, although you could remove the comma before it instead) its ability to sweep through teams. While Latias has no choice in the matter, (Comment: redundant) Levitate is a good ability as (Comment: redundant again, just cutting down this sentence, if you think it's absolutely mandatory though, make sure you put the comma before as) it grants it an immunity to Ground-type moves, (AC) and this therefore provides more opportunities for Mega Latias to set up. The Speed EVs and Timid nature make Mega Latias as fast as possible, allowing it to outpace a lot of Pokemon as many foes as possible. (repetition of "something as possible) The remaining EVs are invested into HP to boost Mega Latias's general bulk as much as possible (Comment: Spoke to peeps over in BS about this, I'm assuming you're talking about the leftover EVs after Mega Latias has invested in the necessary stats, Speed + SpA, in which case it's already implied by remaining. i'm gonna assume that this is right cuz that's the only thing I can infer from this) after the previous target has been reached. While 56 EVs can be moved out of Speed to improve Mega Latias's bulk, such as to 196 EVs to but still outspeed Garchomp (Comment: This was difficult to reword, hope it's right!), this is not recommended, as it's generally counterproductive to sweeping.

Usage Tips
========

This set aims to begin setting up to close out the battle once any problematic foes have been eliminated. After gaining a few boosts, Mega Latias after gaining a few boosts is dangerous, as and special attackers such as Aegislash, Greninja, and Sylveon will no longer be able to 2HKO it. However, don't try to force this.; (RP ASC) leave Mega Latias on the bench if you don't believe setting up to be a reasonable expectation. Focus on bringing checks to Steel-, Fairy-, and Dark-types, as they will be the most problematic for Latias. Mega Charizard Y and Rotom-W are good examples of set(remove space)up fodder, as Latias can stall out Mega Charizard Y's Drought and takes little damage from any of Rotom-W's attacks. Other Defensive Pokemon such as Cresselia, Porygon2, Zapdos, and Slowbro also make good targets to set up on. Suicune is another example, but bear in mind that Roar is reasonably common, (AC) and it can therefore phase phaze Latias out. Be sure to Mega Evolve as soon as possible to take advantage of Mega Latias's higher defensive stats. Try to keep Substitute up as much as possible in order to block crippling status from ruining your game plan. It's also recommended to do this as a way of preventing critical hits from OHKOing Latias through its Special Defense boosts.

Team Options
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As this set is walled by Dark-types, teammates that can remove them for Mega Latias are essential. Using a second Mega such as Mega Mawile, Mega Heracross, or Mega Scizor can offer alternatives for when (Mega?)Latias faces a very poor match-up, (AC) as each handle the majority of foes Latias struggles against such as Sylveon and Tyranitar. Azumarill has a great match-up against Dark-types, (AC) as it resists their STAB moves and can hit the majority of them super effectively with Play Rough. Blaziken can likewise handle Dark-types well and, in return, appreciates Latias as a defensive switch-in due to its frailty. Protean Greninja gets STAB Low Kick to likewise similarly threaten Dark-types, amongst a variety of other coverage, such as Gunk Shot and Ice Beam, that allow it to threaten other foes which that threaten Mega Latias. Non-mega (or just Scizor) Scizor, as a Bug-type, also makes a great partner, (AC) as it deals with both Dark- and Fairy-types excellently. Physically defensive Scizor makes a particularly good partner, as it can handle physical attackers in general. Ferrothorn accomplishes the same in handling Fairy-types and serving serves as a great check to physical attackers. Intimidate users such as Landorus-T and Gyarados equally help to keep physical attackers in check by lowering their Attack stat with Intimidate (optional but for clarity). Landorus-T also gets has access to Stealth Rock, which breaks Focus Sash and therefore helps boosted Latias pick up OHKOes OHKOs against foes (might wanna change this to "Focus Sash users" because I assume that is what you are talking about) such as Breloom. Will-O-Wisp users such as Heatran, Talonflame, and Rotom-W can cut opposing Attack stats in half halve the foe's Attack by burning the foe. The former two, being Fire-types, also provide the benefit of resisting Fairy-type attacks and have (you don't provide the ability) the ability to check Steel-types.

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Psychic / Psyshock
move 3: Trick
move 4: Surf / Healing Wish
item: Choice Specs
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Draco Meteor is Latias's hardest hitting attack, dealing massive damage when combined with the boost from Choice Specs. It does, (RC) however, come with the drawback of lowering Latias's Special Attack by two stages. Psychic is an alternative its STAB move that deals consistent damage at a reasonable Base Power and high accuracy. Alternatively, (makes more sense to use alternative here rather than when you talk about Psychic because psychic is slashed first) Psyshock can be used instead if you'd prefer to have the option of hitting a foe's potentially lower Defense. For example, Psychic hits foes like Mega Venusaur harder, but Psyshock deals with Assault Vest users such as Conkeldurr better. Trick can disable a defensive foe by locking them into a single move, making them easy to eliminate. Surf hits many of the targets that Latias struggles against, such as Tyranitar and Heatran, super effectively. Healing Wish is a good example of a benefit to running differentiates (too wordy) Latias over from Latios and can be used over Surf to give Latias more late-game utility by healing up a strong partner such as Mega Mawile or Mega Kangaskhan, should you find that more valuable.

Set Details
========

Choice Specs provides the largest increase to Latias's damage output possible, albeit while locking it into a single move. Levitate is Latias's only ability, but the immunity to Ground-type moves it grants is great for giving it more opportunities to switch-(RH)in and deal damage. The Speed EVs and a Timid nature allow Latias to outpace as many threats as possible. The remaining EVs are used to boost Latias's Special Attack, improving damage output. A Modest nature may be used tempting (wrong word) to deal even more damage, allowing it to OHKO foes, (AC) such as 4 HP Mega Kangaskhan, (AC) with Draco Meteor. However, it then misses out on outspeeding key threats around the base 100 Speed (bench?)mark such as Garchomp, generally making it the poorer option.

Usage Tips
========

This set aims to deal as much damage as possible, not necessarily focusing on super effective hits. This is because a Choice Specs-boosted Draco Meteor deals a lot of damage even on neutral hits. As Draco Meteor will often be the best choice of move, Latias will therefore be switching in and out a lot to reset the stat drops associated with it. Its superior defenses when compared to Latios and its plentiful resistances compliment complement this playstyle strategy, as they make switching in much easier. Do try to think a turn ahead when using Draco Meteor, (RC) however, as it's easy to fall into the trap of losing too much momentum. Get familiar with predicting foes with high Special Defense to switch in and use Psyshock, as it can often 2HKO them. Sylveon, for example, would normally be a safe switch in against Latias, but is 2HKOed by Psyshock. Chansey is an exception, as it can take a Psyshock relatively easily and would be better crippled by the use of Trick. If using Healing Wish, wait until Latias is no longer useful, or if a crippled ally could better close out the battle.

Team Options
========

Teammates that can deal with types Pokemon that resist Latias's STAB moves, such as Dark- and Fairy-types, are appreciated make excellent allies. (allies = partners in double battles) Mega Mawile and Scizor are great examples of this, as they can check both of those types with their STAB moves. Physical Greninja can use a combination of Low Kick and Gunk Shot to accomplish something similar. However, it does have difficulty switching into Fairy-types directly, as it's natively a Dark-type. Azumarill is another Fairy-type that does a good job at checking Dark-types. Both of them being immune to Dragon-type attacks (Greninja is not immune to Dragon-type) also makes them easy to switch in to opposing Dragons. Ferrothorn makes another good Steel-type partner, as it is able to deal well with opposing Fairy-types. Fighting-types such as Blaziken and Mega Heracross are also useful for beating Dark-types, and they are further able to beat Steel-types, which are problematic due to them resisting both of Latias's STAB moves. Fire-types such as Heatran, Talonflame, and Rotom-H equally beat Steel-types and provide a resistance to Fairy. Talonflame is additionally useful as a check against Blaziken, which Latias struggles against given the because of its combination of Speed Boost and Knock Off. Ground-types such as Landorus-T and Mamoswine likewise hit Steel-types super effectively, although the latter is admittedly ironically (optional: admittedly sounds weird here) hit super effectively by them. Both can also provide Stealth Rock support, which is useful for breaking the Focus Sash of users Pokemon such as Breloom.

[SET]
name: Physically Defensive
move 1: Psychic / Draco Meteor
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Thunder Wave
move 4: Roost
item: Rocky Helmet
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Psychic is used to provide Latias with a consistent STAB move with reasonable power and high accuracy. Draco Meteor has the ability to pick up OHKOs against foes such as Garchomp, but sustained damage output use of the move is incredibly risky because of the Special Attack decrease also affected. (original didn't make sense) Reflect reduces the damage Latias's team takes for 5 five turns, making it better able to wall physical attackers. Thunder Wave provides a form of speed control and reduces the chance the foe has to move by 25%. This is useful for crippling threats such as Blaziken which who, while ordinarily very fast thanks to Speed Boost, struggles once that advantage has been taken away. Toxic could be used in place of Thunder Wave if your team particularly struggles against defensive threats like Cresselia and Porygon2. Roost recovers 50% of Latias's HP, which allows it to continue racking up chip damage with Rocky Helmet. Mega Kangaskhan is an excellent example of why Roost is so useful, as Parental Bond causes it to take twice the damage by hitting Latias twice each turn. (irrelevant/doesn't belong here, see SD) Healing Wish could be used over Roost if you'd prefer Latias simply went down after doing its job. This synergises synergizes particularly well with Draco Meteor, as it allows Latias to safely exit the match gracefully after its stats have been lowered.

Set Details
========

Rocky Helmet inflicts chip damage against foes that use contact moves; primarily physical attackers, such as Mega Kangaskhan, which takes double the damage due to Parental Bond. Levitate, while being Latias's only ability, gives it an immunity to Ground-type moves, providing Latias with even even more opportunities to safely switch in. The Speed EVs and a Timid nature are used to allow Latias to get off its moves, particularly Reflect, before as many foes as possible. The remaining EVs are used to bolster Latias's overall bulk as much as possible, allowing it an easier time of walling foes.

Usage Tips
========

This set aims to beat non Dark-type physical attackers while also providing support for Latias's teammates. You should mostly pick Latias at Team Preview when you want to bring a setup sweeper that would benefit from Latias's support. Another example is when a specially defensive partner needs Latias to defeat the physical attackers that it cannot alone. This is because a Latias without Trick or much offensive presence otherwise struggles to accomplish much outside of these scenarios. This set deals especially well with Mega Kangaskhan because of Parental Bond, especially if you can switch it in on a weak attack such as Fake Out. Try to Reflect as early as possible and keep it up, as Latias's Defense stat is merely average without it. An exception is if you anticipate the opponent bringing in a special attacker, in which case you should instead opt to cripple them with Thunder Wave. If Healing Wish is chosen, use it when Latias is no longer useful and when an ally can better close out the battle.

Team Options
========

Setup sweepers such as Swords Dance Mega Mawile and Scizor users make the best partners, as Reflect helps them get off their set(remove space)up moves and Thunder Wave consequently helps them sweep by ensuring they outspeed their potential threats. They're also useful against defensive foes such as Cresselia, Porygon2, Zapdos, and Calm Mind Suicune, and they both resist many of the types Latias is weak to, making them able to switch in extra safely. Swords Dance Mega Mawile and Scizor are great examples of this, as their resistances to many of the types Latias is weak to make them able to switch-in extra safely. Power-Up Punch Mega Kangaskhan is another notable example, as Thunder Wave helps it outspeed foes around its very competitive base 100 Speed tier. Calm Mind Raikou is also a fantastic teammate, as Latias needs help to beat opposing bulky Water-types. Likewise, Electric-types in general such as Thundurus and Zapdos are good options, (AC) as they also provide a means of dealing with them.

Specially defensive Pokemon and Assault Vest users also complement compliment this set well, as each can wall the attackers that the other (other what? who are you referring to?) cannot. Assault Vest users in general make good candidates for this, as the item boosts their Special Defense. Assault Vest Mamoswine appreciates the speed control Latias provides and can check Steel- and Dragon-types in return (optional) for Latias. Azumarill also makes a good Assault Vest user, and it can counter most Dark- and Dragon-types easily. Heatran functions very well with a specially defensive variant of its stall set, and its typing complements compliments Latias's well. Pokemon that deal with the Dark- and Steel-types that wall Latias's only attacking move make good offensive partners. Fighting-types such as Blaziken and Mega Heracross are able to deal with said (optional) both Dark- and Steel-types, for example. Mega Heracross particularly enjoys the speed control provided by Thunder Wave, due to its merely average Speed stat (unnecessary). Fire-types such as Heatran, Talonflame, and Rotom-H provide a resistance to Fairy and can beat Steel-types. Landorus-T also beats Steel-types handily, and its Intimidate ability further improves Latias's bulk.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
(prefix "mega" to latias if you are talking about mega latias)

Thunderbolt and Ice Beam are individual options individually for the excellent coverage they provide, (RC) or as a pair to complete the infamous popular? BoltBeam combination (taken from fleurdyleurse's notes: do not use "infamous" to mean "famous" or "good". "infamous" means "despicable," so no "infamous BoltBeam combination" or anything like that. there is nothing despicable about the BoltBeam combination.). Shadow Ball helps Latias beat opposing Psychic-types, (AC) such as Cresselia, (AC) that it can otherwise struggle with. It also helps handle Aegislash which, while otherwise problematic, is 2HKOed with a Choice Specs-boosted Shadow Ball held. Energy Ball is an alternative to Thunderbolt that also beats Ground-types like Swampert. Grass Knot could also be used for this purpose, but it does little damage to lighter foes such as Rotom-W and Gastrodon. A particular quirk of Grass Knot is that +1 Mega Latias can OHKO maximum HP Mega Tyranitar with it. Hidden Power Fire can be used to deal with Steel-types like Scizor and Ferrothorn. Stored Power can be used in place of Psyshock on the Calm Mind set for the potential to hit even harder once Latias has set up, though it comes at the cost of dealing very poor damage without consecutive boosts. This can work particularly well if you have teammates to Baton Pass boosts so that Latias is less dependent on accumulating them itself. Charm is an alternative to Reflect on the physically defensive set, (AC) as the ability to use it multiple times allows Latias to wall a single target harder; (semi-colon) however, Reflect is generally more consistent and isn't guaranteed to be made inconsequential by reset when (avoid using unnecessarily long words please) the opponent is switching out. Life Orb can be used over Choice Specs to boost Latias's offense while retaining the ability to change moves; however, run another coverage move or Roost instead of Trick just also drop Trick for another coverage move or Roost. Notably, a big selling point of Life Orb is that you Latias can use Healing Wish immediately after using Draco Meteor, which can be great for momentum. Choice Scarf is another alternative to Choice Specs that trades power for the ability to outspeed faster foes. Lum Berry can help to check users of crippling status such as Thunder Wave Thundurus and Spore Breloom. Latiasite can be used in the physically defensive set if your team doesn't have a Mega Pokemon already, but note that this means you it can't chip at Mega Kangaskhan with Rocky Helmet. Safety Goggles is a tech can be used specifically for users of powder moves such as Breloom and Venusaur to help beat them one-on-one 1-on-1.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Dragon-type Pokemon**: Although Latias can outspeed and hit most of them super effectively, many Dragons are still situationally problematic for it. Garchomp, for example, more often than not uses one of either Focus Sash or Choice Scarf, both of which allow it to trade positively with Latias. Salamence can outspeed Latias after Mega Evolving if it uses a Jolly nature and can then fire off a strong Dragon-type move to OHKO it. Dragonite's Multiscale allows it to take a single hit from Latias and then proceed to either Dragon Dance or OHKO it back. However, note that a Choice Specs-boosted Draco Meteor can still OHKO Dragonite through its Multiscale.

**Dark-type Pokemon**: Dark-types are immune to Latias's Psychic-type moves and can hit it super effectively with their STAB attacks. Choice Scarf Hydreigon is common and has a chance to OHKO even bulkier Latias sets with a high-powered Draco Meteor. Tyranitar takes little damage from any of Latias's attacks thanks to the sand boosting its Special Defense, and its access to Pursuit means Latias cannot switch out safely against it. Mega Sableye is one of the few defensive Pokemon capable of taking on the Choice Specs set thanks to its immunity to Trick and can deal ability to deal (parallelism issue here) good damage with either Foul Play or Snarl.

**Fairy-type Pokemon**: Fairy-types are immune to Dragon-type attacks and their frequent access to high-powered moves means they can deal a lot of damage to Latias. Mega Mawile resists Psychic thanks to its Steel typing and can use Sucker Punch to strike first. Gardevoir also resists Psychic and can deal massive damage even through Substitute with Hyper Voice. Sylveon likewise gets access to Pixilate-boosted Hyper Voice, and has an equally as high Special Defense stat it can use to wall Latias. However, it does need to be wary of a Choice Specs-boosted Psyshock, which can still 2HKO it. Mega Altaria also gets Hyper Voice, and its high defenses means it's difficult to 2HKO. Klefki takes little damage from either of Latias's STAB moves, (AC) and it can whittle away at it with a combination of Swagger and Foul Play.

**Steel-type Pokemon**: As Steel-types resist both Dragon- and Psychic-type attacks, (AC) they're able to easily wall Latias. Aegislash's high defenses in Shield-(RH) forme, (RC) and its Ghost-(RH)typing, (RC) allow it to both take hits well and strike back hard. Ferrothorn's Gyro Ball deals a lot of damage to Latias as a result of it being so fast. Heatran, particularly the Choice Specs variant, has few problems taking hits and but can dishing back good damage. It should beware of a Choice Specs-boosted Surf, (RC) (or though ->) however, as this can 2HKO even bulkier Heatran. Mega Lucario outspeeds Latias and can deal large damage with Iron Tail,(SC->C) OHKOing it after a Swords Dance boost. Scizor takes little damage from either of Latias's STAB moves and easily OHKOes even bulky sets with Bug Bite.

**Speed Control**: Almost all variants of Latias rely on their high Speed, and this therefore makes them vulnerable to various forms of speed control. Thunder Wave from Pokemon such as Thundurus, Rotom-W, and Cresselia quarters Latias's Speed cuts Latias's speed in quarter. The latter two should be wary against Calm Mind variants, (RC) however, as they can merely end up as setup fodder. Icy Wind from users such as Gengar and Suicune hit Latias super effectively and lower its Speed by one stage. Trick Room set by Pokemon such as Cresselia, Porygon2, and Slowbro allow slower Pokemon to move first.
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[OVERVIEW]

Latias is able to either serve either as a late-game sweeper or as a check to an array of foes such as slower Dragons or physical attackers, thanks to with (not really sure what's going on in sentence, but these things cannot aid its sweeping capabilities, so I reckon this works?) its better defensive stats, which allows allow it to take a Shadow Ball from Mega Gengar, and access to Healing Wish (RC) giving it a niche over the generally preferred Latios. Mega Latias's bulk emphasizes these differences even further, giving stall teams an immense amount of trouble once Tyranitar has been eliminated (RC) and making Latias more versatile than Latios. Furthermore, in combination with the recovery granted by Roost, Latias is able to stick around for extended periods of time, which resistances to common types and a Ground immunity help with. Its high base Speed allows it to outpace the majority of threats in the metagame, often giving it the initiative. This is particularly advantageous for outspeeding most Dragons, such as Garchomp and Mega Salamence, the latter of which often does not use a Speed-bosting nature. A wide offensive movepool, including moves such as Thunderbolt and Shadow Ball, gives it the means to deal with a variety of foes, making it somewhat unpredictable. For example, Azumarill, while ordinarily problematic, is 2HKOed by a Choice Specs-boosted Thunderbolt.

Latias does still, however, face competition from Latios offensively, as Latios the latter can take advantage of a higher Special Attack stat in that role. Latios is also not the only Dragon-type it faces competition from. Hydreigon, for example, is another special attacking Dragon-type that hits hard. Being walled by both Dark- and Fairy-types can create some unfavorable match-ups straight from Team Preview. Steel-types also resist both of Latias's STAB moves, making foes such as Mega Mawile, Aegislash, Ferrothorn, and Scizor equally problematic. Overall, Latias is very versatile and can therefore perform well on many different types of teams, but you should ensure it's not outclassed in doing so.

[SET]
name: Mega Calm Mind
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Psyshock
move 3: Roost
move 4: Substitute / Draco Meteor
item: Latiasite
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Calm Mind boosts Mega Latias's Special Attack and Special Defense by one stage, giving it the means to set up on the foe. Psyshock is the STAB move of choice, as it deals a consistent amount of damage at high accuracy. It also has the quirk of hitting the target's Defense stat, which is part of the reason why it generally outclasses Psychic, as it therefore threatens Calm Mind Suicune more. Roost can help keep Mega Latias healthy by recovering 50% of its HP, compensating for health lost by damage taken from foes and Substitute. Substitute is most effective against defensive threats, giving Mega Latias the option of blocking crippling status, such as poison, paralysis, and burn, from inhibiting its sweep. It also provides a means to prevent the use of Sucker Punch from foes such as Mega Kangaskhan. Draco Meteor can be used instead to provide Latias with some mid-game wallbreaking potential.

Set Details
========'

Latiasite allows Latias to Mega Evolve, which significantly improves its stats and its ability to sweep through teams. Levitate grants it an immunity to Ground-type moves, and this therefore which provides more opportunities for Mega Latias to set up. The Speed EVs and Timid nature make Mega Latias as fast as possible, allowing it to outpace a lot of Pokemon (such as?). (AP) The remaining EVs are invested into HP to boost Mega Latias's general bulk as much as possible. While 56 EVs can be moved out of Speed to improve Mega Latias's bulk (RC) but still outspeed Garchomp, this is not recommended, as it's generally counterproductive to sweeping.

Usage Tips
========

This set aims to begin setting up to close out the battle once any problematic foes have been eliminated. After gaining a few boosts, Mega Latias is dangerous, and special attackers such as Aegislash, Greninja, and Sylveon will no longer be able to 2HKO it. However, don't try to force this; leave Mega Latias on the bench if you don't believe setting up to be a reasonable expectation. Focus on bringing checks to Steel-, Fairy-, and Dark-types, as they will be the most problematic for Latias. Mega Charizard Y and Rotom-W are good examples of setup fodder, as Latias can stall out Mega Charizard Y's Drought and takes little damage from any of Rotom-W's attacks. Defensive Pokemon such as Cresselia, Porygon2, Zapdos, and Slowbro also make good targets to set up on. Suicune is another example, but bear in mind that Roar is reasonably common, and it can therefore which allows it to phaze Latias out. Be sure to Mega Evolve as soon as possible to take advantage of Mega Latias's higher defensive stats. Try to keep Substitute up as much as possible in order to block crippling status from ruining your game plan. It's also recommended to do this as a way of preventing critical hits from OHKOing Latias through its Special Defense boosts.

Team Options
========

As this set is walled by Dark-types, teammates that can remove them for Mega Latias are essential. Using a second Mega Evolution such as Mega Mawile, Mega Heracross, or Mega Scizor can offer alternatives for when Mega Latias faces a very poor match-up, as each handle handles the majority of foes Latias struggles against such as Sylveon and Tyranitar. Azumarill has a great match-up against Dark-types, as it resists their STAB moves and can hit the majority of them super effectively with Play Rough. Blaziken can likewise handle Dark-types well and, in return, appreciates Latias as a defensive switch-in due to its frailty. Protean Greninja gets STAB Low Kick to similarly threaten Dark-types, amongst a variety of other coverage, such as Gunk Shot and Ice Beam, that allow it to threaten other foes that threaten Mega Latias. Non-Mega Scizor, as a Bug-type, also makes a great partner, as it deals with both Dark- and Fairy-types excellently. Physically defensive Scizor makes a particularly good partner, as it can handle physical attackers in general. Ferrothorn accomplishes the same in handling Fairy-types and serves as a great check to physical attackers. Intimidate users such as Landorus-T and Gyarados equally help to keep physical attackers in check by lowering their Attack stat with Intimidate. Landorus-T also has access to Stealth Rock, which breaks Focus Sash and therefore helps boosted Latias pick up OHKOs against Focus Sash users such as Breloom. Will-O-Wisp users such as Heatran, Talonflame, and Rotom-W can halve the foe's Attack. The former two, being Fire-types, also provide the benefit of resisting Fairy-type attacks and have the ability to check Steel-types.

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Psychic / Psyshock
move 3: Trick
move 4: Surf / Healing Wish
item: Choice Specs
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Draco Meteor is Latias's hardest-hitting (AH) attack, dealing massive damage when combined with the boost from Choice Specs. It does, (AC) however, come with the drawback of lowering Latias's Special Attack by two stages. Psychic is its a STAB move that deals consistent damage at a reasonable Base Power and high accuracy. Alternatively, Psyshock can be used instead if you'd prefer to have the option of hitting a foe's potentially lower Defense. For example, Psychic hits foes like Mega Venusaur harder, but Psyshock deals with Assault Vest users such as Conkeldurr better. Trick can disable a defensive foe by locking them into a single move, making them easy to eliminate. Surf hits many of the targets that Latias struggles against, such as Tyranitar and Heatran, super effectively. Alternatively, (AC) Healing Wish differentiates Latias from Latios and can be used over Surf to give Latias more late-game utility by healing up a strong partner such as Mega Mawile or Mega Kangaskhan, should you find that more valuable.

Set Details
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Choice Specs provides the largest increase to Latias's damage output, albeit while locking it into a single move. Levitate is Latias's only ability, but the immunity to Ground-type moves it grants is great for giving it more opportunities to switch in and deal damage. The Speed EVs and a Timid nature allow Latias to outpace as many threats as possible. The remaining EVs are used to boost invested into Latias's Special Attack, improving damage output. A Modest nature may be used to deal even more damage, allowing it to OHKO foes, such as 4 HP Mega Kangaskhan, with Draco Meteor. However, it then misses out on outspeeding key threats around the base 100 Speed mark such as Garchomp, generally making it the poorer option.

Usage Tips
========

This set aims to deal as much damage as possible, not necessarily focusing on super effective hits. This is because a Choice Specs-boosted Draco Meteor deals a lot of damage even on neutral hits. As Draco Meteor will often be the best choice of move, Latias will therefore be switching in and out a lot to reset the stat drops associated with it. Its superior defenses when compared to Latios and its plentiful resistances complement this strategy, as they make switching in much easier. Do try to think a turn ahead when using Draco Meteor however, as it's easy to fall into the trap of losing too much momentum. Get familiar with predicting foes with high Special Defense to switch in and use Psyshock (maybe specify "if you're running it" at some point? it's only a secondary slash), as it can often 2HKO them. Sylveon, for example, would normally be a safe switch-in (AH) against Latias, but is 2HKOed by Psyshock. Chansey is an exception, as it can take a Psyshock relatively easily and would be better crippled by the use of Trick. If using Healing Wish, wait until Latias is no longer useful, or if a crippled ally could better close out the battle.

Team Options
========

Teammates that can deal with Pokemon that resist Latias's STAB moves, such as Dark- and Fairy-types, are appreciated. Mega Mawile and Scizor are great examples of this, as they can check both of those types with their STAB moves. Physical Greninja can use a combination of Low Kick and Gunk Shot to accomplish something similar. However, it does have difficulty switching into Fairy-types directly, as it's natively a Dark-type. Azumarill is another Fairy-type that does a good job at checking Dark-types. Fairies being immune to Dragon-type attacks also makes them easy to switch in to into opposing Dragons. Ferrothorn makes another good Steel-type partner, as it is able to deal well with opposing Fairy-types. Fighting-types such as Blaziken and Mega Heracross are also useful for beating Dark-types, and they are further able to beat Steel-types, which are problematic due to them resisting both of Latias's STAB moves. Fire-types such as Heatran, Talonflame, and Rotom-H equally beat Steel-types and provide a resistance to Fairy. Talonflame is additionally useful as a check against Blaziken, which Latias struggles against because of its combination of Speed Boost and Knock Off. Ground-types such as Landorus-T and Mamoswine likewise hit Steel-types super effectively, although the latter is admittedly hit super effectively by them too. Both can also provide Stealth Rock support, which is useful for breaking the Focus Sash of Pokemon such as Breloom.

[SET]
name: Physically Defensive
move 1: Psychic / Draco Meteor
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Thunder Wave
move 4: Roost
item: Rocky Helmet
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Psychic is used to provide Latias with a consistent STAB move with reasonable power and high accuracy. Draco Meteor has the ability to pick up OHKOs against foes such as Garchomp, but use of the move is incredibly risky because of the Special Attack decrease. Reflect reduces the damage Latias's team takes for five turns, making it better able to wall physical attackers. Thunder Wave provides a form of speed control and reduces the chance the foe has to move by 25%. This is useful for crippling threats such as Blaziken, (AC) which, while ordinarily very fast thanks to Speed Boost, struggles once that advantage has been taken away. Toxic could be used in place of Thunder Wave if your team particularly struggles against defensive threats like Cresselia and Porygon2. Roost recovers 50% of Latias's HP, which allows it to continue racking up chip damage with Rocky Helmet. Healing Wish could be used over Roost if you'd prefer Latias simply went down after doing its job. This synergizes particularly well with Draco Meteor, as it allows Latias to safely exit the match after its stats have been lowered.

Set Details
========

Rocky Helmet inflicts chip damage against foes that use contact moves, (comma) primarily physical attackers, such as Mega Kangaskhan, which takes double the damage due to Parental Bond. Levitate, while being Latias's only ability, gives it an immunity to Ground-type moves, providing Latias with even more opportunities to safely switch in. The Speed EVs and a Timid nature are used to allow Latias to get off its moves, particularly Reflect, before as many foes as possible. The remaining EVs are used to bolster Latias's overall bulk as much as possible, allowing it an easier time of walling foes.

Usage Tips
========

This set aims to beat non-Dark-type (AH) physical attackers while also providing support for Latias's teammates. You should mostly pick Latias at Team Preview when you want to bring a setup sweeper that would benefit from Latias's support. Another example is when a specially defensive partner needs Latias to defeat the physical attackers that it cannot alone. This is because a Latias without Trick or much offensive presence otherwise struggles to accomplish much outside of these scenarios. This set deals especially well with Mega Kangaskhan because of Parental Bond forcing it to take two rounds of Rocky Helmet damage, (I suppose?) especially if you can switch it in on a weak attack such as Fake Out. Try to Reflect as early as possible and keep it up, as Latias's Defense stat is merely average without it. An exception is if you anticipate the opponent bringing in a special attacker, in which case you should instead opt to cripple them with Thunder Wave. If Healing Wish is chosen, use it when Latias is no longer useful and when an ally can better close out the battle.

Team Options
========

Setup sweepers such as Swords Dance Mega Mawile and Scizor make the best partners, as Reflect helps them get off their setup moves and Thunder Wave consequently helps them sweep by ensuring they outspeed their potential threats. They're also useful against defensive foes such as Cresselia, Porygon2, Zapdos, and Calm Mind Suicune, and they both resist many of the types Latias is weak to, making them able to switch in extra safely. Power-Up Punch Mega Kangaskhan is another notable example, as Thunder Wave helps it outspeed foes around its very competitive (feel like "crowded" better conveys the nuance you're going for) base 100 Speed tier. Calm Mind Raikou is also a fantastic teammate, as Latias needs help to beat opposing bulky Water-types. Likewise, Electric-types in general such as Thundurus and Zapdos are good options, as they also provide a means of dealing with them.

Specially defensive Pokemon and Assault Vest users also complement this set well, as they can often wall the attackers that Latias cannot. Assault Vest Mamoswine appreciates the speed control Latias provides and can check Steel- and Dragon-types in return for Latias. Azumarill also makes a good Assault Vest user, and it can counter most Dark- and Dragon-types easily. Heatran functions very well with a specially defensive variant of its stall set, and its typing complements Latias's well. Pokemon that deal with the Dark- and Steel-types that wall Latias's only attacking move make good offensive partners. Fighting-types such as Blaziken and Mega Heracross are able to deal with said Dark- and Steel-types, for example. Mega Heracross particularly enjoys the speed control provided by Thunder Wave (RC) due to its merely average Speed. Fire-types such as Heatran, Talonflame, and Rotom-H provide a resistance to Fairy and can beat Steel-types. Landorus-T also beats Steel-types handily, and its Intimidate ability further improves Latias's bulk.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Thunderbolt and Ice Beam are individual options for the excellent coverage they provide or as a pair to complete the popular BoltBeam combination. Shadow Ball helps Latias beat opposing Psychic-types, such as Cresselia, that it can otherwise struggle with. It also helps handle Aegislash, (AC) which, while otherwise problematic, is 2HKOed with a Choice Specs-boosted Shadow Ball. Energy Ball is an alternative to Thunderbolt that also beats Ground-types like Swampert. Grass Knot could also be used for this purpose, but it does little damage to lighter foes such as Rotom-W and Gastrodon. However, (AC) a particular quirk of Grass Knot is that +1 Mega Latias can OHKO maximum HP Mega Tyranitar with it. Hidden Power Fire can be used to deal with Steel-types like Scizor and Ferrothorn. Stored Power can be used in place of Psyshock on the Calm Mind set for the potential to hit even harder once Mega Latias has set up, though it comes at the cost of dealing very poor damage without consecutive boosts. This can work particularly well if you have teammates to Baton Pass boosts so that Latias is less dependent on accumulating them itself. Charm is an alternative to Reflect on the physically defensive set, as the ability to use it multiple times allows Latias to wall a single target harder; however, Reflect is generally more consistent and isn't reset when the opponent is switching switches out. Life Orb can be used over Choice Specs to boost Latias's offense power while retaining the ability to change moves; however, such a set requires running another coverage move or Roost instead of Trick. Notably, a big selling point of Life Orb is that Latias can use Healing Wish immediately after using Draco Meteor, which can be great for momentum. Choice Scarf is another alternative to Choice Specs that trades power for the ability to outspeed faster foes. Lum Berry can help to check users of crippling status such as Thunder Wave Thundurus and Spore Breloom. Latiasite can be used in the physically defensive set if your team doesn't have a Mega Pokemon already, but note that this means it can't chip at Mega Kangaskhan with Rocky Helmet. Safety Goggles can be used specifically for users of powder moves such as Breloom and Venusaur to help beat them one-on-one.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Dragon-type Pokemon**: Although Latias can outspeed and hit most of them super effectively, many Dragons are still situationally problematic for it. Garchomp, for example, more often than not uses one of either Focus Sash or Choice Scarf, both of which allow it to trade positively with Latias. Salamence can outspeed Latias after Mega Evolving if it uses a Jolly nature and can then fire off a strong Dragon-type move to OHKO it. Dragonite's Multiscale allows it to take a single hit from Latias and then proceed to either Dragon Dance or OHKO it back. However, note that a Choice Specs-boosted Draco Meteor can still OHKO Dragonite through its Multiscale.

**Dark-type Pokemon**: Dark-types are immune to Latias's Psychic-type moves and can hit it super effectively with their STAB attacks. Choice Scarf Hydreigon is common and has a chance to OHKO even bulkier Latias sets with a high-powered Draco Meteor. Tyranitar takes little damage from any of Latias's attacks thanks to the sand boosting its Special Defense, and its access to Pursuit means Latias cannot switch out safely against it. Mega Sableye is one of the few defensive Pokemon capable of taking on the Choice Specs set thanks to its immunity to Trick and ability to deal good damage with either Foul Play or Snarl.

**Fairy-type Pokemon**: Fairy-types are immune to Dragon-type attacks, (AC) and their access to high-powered moves means they can deal a lot of damage to Latias. Mega Mawile resists Psychic thanks to its Steel typing and can use Sucker Punch to strike first. Gardevoir also resists Psychic and can deal massive damage even through Substitute with Hyper Voice. Sylveon likewise gets access to Pixilate-boosted Hyper Voice, and has an equally as high Special Defense stat it can use to wall Latias. However, it does need to be wary of a Choice Specs-boosted Psyshock, which can still 2HKO it. Mega Altaria also gets Hyper Voice, and its high defenses means it's difficult to 2HKO. Klefki takes little damage from either of Latias's STAB moves, and it can whittle away at it with a combination of Swagger and Foul Play.

**Steel-type Pokemon**: As Steel-types resist both Dragon- and Psychic-type attacks, they're able to easily wall Latias. Aegislash's high defenses in Shield forme and its Ghost typing allow it to both take hits well and strike back hard. Ferrothorn's Gyro Ball deals a lot of damage to Latias as a result of it being so fast. Heatran, particularly the Choice Specs variant, has few problems taking hits but can dish back good damage. It should beware of a Choice Specs-boosted Surf, (AC) however, as this can 2HKO even bulkier Heatran variants. Mega Lucario outspeeds Latias and can deal large damage with Iron Tail, OHKOing it after a Swords Dance boost. Scizor takes little damage from either of Latias's STAB moves and easily OHKOes even bulky sets with Bug Bite.

**Speed Control**: Almost all variants of Latias rely on their high Speed, and this therefore which makes them vulnerable to various forms of speed control. Thunder Wave from Pokemon such as Thundurus, Rotom-W, and Cresselia quarters Latias's Speed. The latter two should be wary against Calm Mind variants however, as they can merely end up as setup fodder. Icy Wind from users such as Gengar and Suicune hit Latias super effectively and lower its Speed by one stage. Trick Room set by Pokemon such as Cresselia, Porygon2, and Slowbro allow slower Pokemon to move first.
 
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[OVERVIEW]

Latias is able to serve either as a late-game sweeper or as a check to an array of foes such as slower Dragons or physical attackers, with its better defensive stats, which allow it to take a Shadow Ball from Mega Gengar, and access to Healing Wish giving it a niche over the generally preferred Latios. Mega Latias's bulk emphasizes these differences even further, giving stall teams an immense amount of trouble once Tyranitar has been eliminated and making Latias more versatile than Latios. Furthermore, in combination with the recovery granted by Roost, Latias is able to stick around for extended periods of time, which resistances to common types and a Ground immunity help with. Its high base Speed allows it to outpace the majority of threats in the metagame, often giving it the initiative. This is particularly advantageous for outspeeding most Dragons, such as Garchomp and Mega Salamence, the latter of which often does not use a Speed-boosting nature. A wide offensive movepool, including moves such as Thunderbolt and Shadow Ball, gives it (Mega?) Latias the means to deal with a variety of foes, making it somewhat unpredictable. For example, Azumarill, while ordinarily problematic, is 2HKOed by a Choice Specs-boosted Thunderbolt.

Latias does still, however, face competition from Latios offensively, as the latter can take advantage of a higher Special Attack stat in that role. Latios is also not the only Dragon-type it faces competition from. Hydreigon, for example, is another special attacking Dragon-type that hits hard. Being walled by both Dark- and Fairy-types can create some unfavorable match-ups straight from Team Preview. Steel-types also resist both of Latias's STAB moves, making foes such as Mega Mawile, Aegislash, Ferrothorn, and Scizor equally problematic. Overall, Latias is very versatile and can therefore perform well on many different types of teams, but you should ensure it's not outclassed in doing so.

[SET]
name: Mega Calm Mind
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Psyshock
move 3: Roost
move 4: Substitute / Draco Meteor
item: Latiasite
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Calm Mind boosts Mega Latias's Special Attack and Special Defense by one stage, giving it the means to set up on the foe. Psyshock is the STAB move of choice, as it deals a consistent amount of damage at high accuracy. It also has the quirk of hitting the target's Defense stat, which is part of the reason why it generally outclasses Psychic, as it therefore threatens Calm Mind Suicune more. Roost can help keep Mega Latias healthy by recovering 50% of its HP, compensating for health lost by damage taken from foes and Substitute. Substitute is most effective against defensive threats, giving Mega Latias the option of blocking crippling status, such as poison, paralysis, and burn, from inhibiting its sweep. It also provides a means to prevent the use of Sucker Punch from foes such as Mega Kangaskhan. Draco Meteor can be used instead to provide Latias with some mid-game wallbreaking potential.

Set Details
========' (remove apostrophe)

Latiasite allows Latias to Mega Evolve, which significantly improves its stats and its ability to sweep through teams. Levitate grants it an immunity to Ground-type moves, which provides more opportunities for Mega Latias to set up. The Speed EVs and Timid nature make Mega Latias as fast as possible. The remaining EVs are invested into HP to boost Mega Latias's general bulk as much as possible. While 56 EVs can be moved out of Speed to improve Mega Latias's bulk but still outspeed Garchomp, this is not recommended, as it's generally counterproductive to sweeping.

Usage Tips
========

This set aims to begin setting up to close out the battle once any problematic foes have been eliminated. After gaining a few boosts, Mega Latias is dangerous, and special attackers such as Aegislash, Greninja, and Sylveon will no longer be able to 2HKO it. However, don't try to force this; leave Mega Latias on the bench if you don't believe setting up to be a reasonable expectation. Focus on bringing checks to Steel-, Fairy-, and Dark-types, as they will be the most problematic for Latias. Mega Charizard Y and Rotom-W are good examples of setup fodder, as Latias can stall out Mega Charizard Y's Drought and takes little damage from any of Rotom-W's attacks. Defensive Pokemon such as Cresselia, Porygon2, Zapdos, and Slowbro also make good targets to set up on. Suicune is another example, but bear in mind that Roar is reasonably common, which allows it to phaze Latias. Be sure to Mega Evolve as soon as possible to take advantage of Mega Latias's higher defensive stats. Try to keep Substitute up as much as possible in order to block crippling status from ruining your game plan. It's also recommended to do this as a way of preventing critical hits from OHKOing Latias through its Special Defense boosts.

Team Options
========

As this set is walled by Dark-types, teammates that can remove them for Mega Latias are essential. Using a second Mega Evolution such as Mega Mawile, Mega Heracross, or Mega Scizor can offer alternatives for when Mega Latias faces a very poor match-up, as each handles the majority of foes Latias struggles against such as Sylveon and Tyranitar. Azumarill has a great match-up against Dark-types, as it resists their STAB moves and can hit the majority of them super effectively with Play Rough. Blaziken can likewise handle Dark-types well and, in return, appreciates Latias as a defensive switch-in due to its frailty. Protean Greninja gets STAB Low Kick to similarly threaten Dark-types, amongst a variety of other coverage, such as Gunk Shot and Ice Beam, that allow it to threaten other foes that threaten Mega Latias. Non-Mega Scizor, as a Bug-type, also makes a great partner, as it deals with both Dark- and Fairy-types excellently. Physically defensive Scizor makes a particularly good partner, as it can handle physical attackers in general. Ferrothorn accomplishes the same in handling Fairy-types and serves as a great check to physical attackers. Intimidate users such as Landorus-T and Gyarados equally help to keep physical attackers in check by lowering their Attack stat. Landorus-T also has access to Stealth Rock, which breaks Focus Sash and therefore helps boosted Latias pick up OHKOs against Focus Sash users such as Breloom. Will-O-Wisp users such as Heatran, Talonflame, and Rotom-W can halve the foe's Attack. The former two, being Fire-types, also provide the benefit of resisting Fairy-type attacks and have the ability to check Steel-types.

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Psychic / Psyshock
move 3: Trick
move 4: Surf / Healing Wish
item: Choice Specs
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Draco Meteor is Latias's hardest-hitting attack, dealing massive damage when combined with the boost from Choice Specs. It does, however, come with the drawback of lowering Latias's Special Attack by two stages. Psychic is a STAB move that deals consistent damage at a reasonable Base Power and high accuracy. Alternatively, Psyshock can be used instead if you'd prefer to have the option of hitting a foe's potentially lower Defense. For example, Psychic hits foes like Mega Venusaur harder, but Psyshock deals with Assault Vest users such as Conkeldurr better. Trick can disable a defensive foe by locking them into a single move, making them easy to eliminate. Surf hits many of the targets that Latias struggles against, such as Tyranitar and Heatran, super effectively. Alternatively, Healing Wish differentiates Latias from Latios and can be used over Surf to give Latias more late-game utility by healing up a strong partner such as Mega Mawile or Mega Kangaskhan, should you find that more valuable.

Set Details
========

Choice Specs provides the largest increase to Latias's damage output, albeit while locking it into a single move. Levitate is Latias's only ability, but the immunity to Ground-type moves it grants is great for giving it more opportunities to switch in and deal damage. The Speed EVs and a Timid nature allow Latias to outpace as many threats as possible. The remaining EVs are invested into Latias's Special Attack, improving damage output. A Modest nature may be used to deal even more damage, allowing it to OHKO foes, such as 4 HP Mega Kangaskhan, with Draco Meteor. However, it then misses out on outspeeding key threats around the base 100 Speed mark such as Garchomp, generally making it the poorer option.

Usage Tips
========

This set aims to deal as much damage as possible, not necessarily focusing on super effective hits. This is because a Choice Specs-boosted Draco Meteor deals a lot of damage even on neutral hits. As Draco Meteor will often be the best choice of move, Latias will be switching in and out a lot to reset the stat drops associated with it. Its superior defenses when compared to Latios and its plentiful resistances complement this strategy, as they make switching in much easier. Do try to think a turn ahead when using Draco Meteor however, as it's easy to fall into the trap of losing too much momentum. If you're running Psyshock, get familiar with predicting foes with high Special Defense to switch in, as it can often 2HKO them. Sylveon, for example, would normally be a safe switch-in against Latias, but is 2HKOed by Psyshock. Chansey is an exception, as it can take a Psyshock relatively easily and would be better crippled by the use of Trick. If using Healing Wish, wait until Latias is no longer useful, or if a crippled ally could better close out the battle.

Team Options
========

Teammates that can deal with Pokemon that resist Latias's STAB moves, such as Dark- and Fairy-types, are appreciated. Mega Mawile and Scizor are great examples of this, as they can check both of those types with their STAB moves. Physical Greninja can use a combination of Low Kick and Gunk Shot to accomplish something similar. However, it does have difficulty switching into Fairy-types directly, as it's natively a Dark-type. Azumarill is another Fairy-type that does a good job at checking Dark-types. Fairies being immune to Dragon-type attacks also makes them easy to switch into opposing Dragons. Ferrothorn makes another good Steel-type partner, as it is able to deal well with opposing Fairy-types. Fighting-types such as Blaziken and Mega Heracross are also useful for beating Dark-types, and they are further able to beat Steel-types, which are problematic due to them resisting both of Latias's STAB moves. Fire-types such as Heatran, Talonflame, and Rotom-H equally beat Steel-types and provide a resistance to Fairy. Talonflame is additionally useful as a check against Blaziken, which Latias struggles against because of its combination of Speed Boost and Knock Off. Ground-types such as Landorus-T and Mamoswine likewise hit Steel-types super effectively, although the latter is admittedly hit super effectively by them too. Both can also provide Stealth Rock support, which is useful for breaking the Focus Sash of Pokemon such as Breloom.

[SET]
name: Physically Defensive
move 1: Psychic / Draco Meteor
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Thunder Wave
move 4: Roost
item: Rocky Helmet
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Psychic is used to provide Latias with a consistent STAB move with reasonable power and high accuracy. Draco Meteor has the ability to pick up OHKOs against foes such as Garchomp, but use of the move is incredibly risky because of the Special Attack decrease. Reflect reduces the damage Latias's team takes for five turns, making it better able to wall physical attackers. Thunder Wave provides a form of speed control and reduces the chance the foe has to move by 25%. This is useful for crippling threats such as Blaziken, which, while ordinarily very fast thanks to Speed Boost, struggles once that advantage has been taken away. Toxic could be used in place of Thunder Wave if your team particularly struggles against defensive threats like Cresselia and Porygon2. Roost recovers 50% of Latias's HP, which allows it to continue racking up chip damage with Rocky Helmet. Healing Wish could be used over Roost if you'd prefer Latias simply went down after doing its job. This synergizes particularly well with Draco Meteor, as it allows Latias to safely exit the match after its stats have been lowered.

Set Details
========

Rocky Helmet inflicts chip damage against foes that use contact moves, primarily physical attackers, such as Mega Kangaskhan, which takes double the damage due to Parental Bond. Levitate, while being Latias's only ability, gives it an immunity to Ground-type moves, providing Latias with even more opportunities to safely switch in. The Speed EVs and a Timid nature are used to allow Latias to get off its moves, particularly Reflect, before as many foes as possible. The remaining EVs are used to bolster Latias's overall bulk as much as possible, allowing it an easier time of walling foes.

Usage Tips
========

This set aims to beat non-Dark-type physical attackers while also providing support for Latias's teammates. You should mostly pick Latias at Team Preview when you want to bring a setup sweeper that would benefit from Latias's support. Another example is when a specially defensive partner needs Latias to defeat the physical attackers that it cannot alone. This is because a Latias without Trick or much offensive presence otherwise struggles to accomplish much outside of these scenarios. This set deals especially well with Mega Kangaskhan because of Parental Bond forcing it to take two rounds of Rocky Helmet damage, particularly if you can switch it in on a weak attack such as Fake Out. Try to Reflect as early as possible and keep it up, as Latias's Defense stat is merely average without it. An exception is if you anticipate the opponent bringing in a special attacker, in which case you should instead opt to cripple them with Thunder Wave. If Healing Wish is chosen, use it when Latias is no longer useful and when an ally can better close out the battle.

Team Options
========

Setup sweepers such as Swords Dance Mega Mawile and Scizor make the best partners, as Reflect helps them get off their setup moves and Thunder Wave consequently helps them sweep by ensuring they outspeed their potential threats. They're also useful against defensive foes such as Cresselia, Porygon2, Zapdos, and Calm Mind Suicune, and they both resist many of the types Latias is weak to, making them able to switch in extra safely. Power-Up Punch Mega Kangaskhan is another notable example, as Thunder Wave helps it outspeed foes around its very crowded base 100 Speed tier. Calm Mind Raikou is also a fantastic teammate, as Latias needs help to beat opposing bulky Water-types. Likewise, Electric-types in general such as Thundurus and Zapdos are good options, as they also provide a means of dealing with them.

Specially defensive Pokemon and Assault Vest users also complement this set well, as they can often wall the attackers that Latias cannot. Assault Vest Mamoswine appreciates the speed control Latias provides and can check Steel- and Dragon-types in return. Azumarill also makes a good Assault Vest user, and it can counter most Dark- and Dragon-types easily. Heatran functions very well with a specially defensive variant of its stall set, and its typing complements Latias's well. Pokemon that deal with the Dark- and Steel-types that wall Latias's only attacking move make good offensive partners. Fighting-types such as Blaziken and Mega Heracross are able to deal with said Dark- and Steel-types, for example. Mega Heracross particularly enjoys the speed control provided by Thunder Wave due to its merely average Speed. Fire-types such as Heatran, Talonflame, and Rotom-H provide a resistance to Fairy and can beat Steel-types. Landorus-T also beats Steel-types handily, and its Intimidate ability further improves Latias's bulk.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Thunderbolt and Ice Beam are individual options for the excellent coverage they provide or as a pair to complete the popular BoltBeam combination. Shadow Ball helps Latias beat opposing Psychic-types, such as Cresselia, that it can otherwise struggle with. It also helps handle Aegislash, which, while otherwise problematic, is 2HKOed with a Choice Specs-boosted Shadow Ball. Energy Ball is an alternative to Thunderbolt that also beats Ground-types like Swampert. Grass Knot could also be used for this purpose, but it does little damage to lighter foes such as Rotom-W and Gastrodon. However, a particular quirk of Grass Knot is that +1 Mega Latias can OHKO maximum HP Mega Tyranitar with it. Hidden Power Fire can be used to deal with Steel-types like Scizor and Ferrothorn. Stored Power can be used in place of Psyshock on the Calm Mind set for the potential to hit even harder once Mega Latias has set up, though it comes at the cost of dealing very poor damage without consecutive boosts. This can work particularly well if you have teammates to Baton Pass boosts so that Latias is less dependent on accumulating them itself. Charm is an alternative to Reflect on the physically defensive set, as the ability to use it multiple times allows Latias to wall a single target harder; however, Reflect is generally more consistent and isn't reset when the opponent switches out. Life Orb can be used over Choice Specs to boost Latias's power while retaining the ability to change moves; however, such a set requires running another coverage move or Roost instead of Trick. Notably, a big selling point of Life Orb is that Latias can use Healing Wish immediately after using Draco Meteor, which can be great for momentum. Choice Scarf is another alternative to Choice Specs that trades power for the ability to outspeed faster foes. Lum Berry can help to check users of crippling status such as Thunder Wave Thundurus and Spore Breloom. Latiasite can be used in the physically defensive set if your team doesn't have a Mega Pokemon already, but note that this means it can't chip at Mega Kangaskhan with Rocky Helmet. Safety Goggles can be used specifically for users of powder moves such as Breloom and Venusaur to help beat them one-on-one.

Checks and Counters
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**Dragon-type Pokemon**: Although Latias can outspeed and hit most of them super effectively, many Dragons are still situationally problematic for it. Garchomp, for example, more often than not uses one of either Focus Sash or Choice Scarf, both of which allow it to trade positively with Latias. Salamence can outspeed Latias after Mega Evolving if it uses a Jolly nature and can then fire off a strong Dragon-type move to OHKO it. Dragonite's Multiscale allows it to take a single hit from Latias and then proceed to either Dragon Dance or OHKO it back. However, note that a Choice Specs-boosted Draco Meteor can still OHKO Dragonite through its Multiscale.

**Dark-type Pokemon**: Dark-types are immune to Latias's Psychic-type moves and can hit it super effectively with their STAB attacks. Choice Scarf Hydreigon is common and has a chance to OHKO even bulkier Latias sets with a high-powered Draco Meteor. Tyranitar takes little damage from any of Latias's attacks thanks to the sand boosting its Special Defense, and its access to Pursuit means Latias cannot switch out safely against it. Mega Sableye is one of the few defensive Pokemon capable of taking on the Choice Specs set thanks to its immunity to Trick and ability to deal good damage with either Foul Play or Snarl.

**Fairy-type Pokemon**: Fairy-types are immune to Dragon-type attacks, and their access to high-powered moves means they can deal a lot of damage to Latias. Mega Mawile resists Psychic thanks to its Steel typing and can use Sucker Punch to strike first. Gardevoir also resists Psychic and can deal massive damage even through Substitute with Hyper Voice. Sylveon likewise gets access to Pixilate-boosted Hyper Voice, and it has an equally as high Special Defense stat it can use to wall Latias. However, it does need to be wary of a Choice Specs-boosted Psyshock, which can still 2HKO it. Mega Altaria also gets Hyper Voice, and its high defenses means it's difficult to 2HKO. Klefki takes little damage from either of Latias's STAB moves, and it can whittle away at it with a combination of Swagger and Foul Play.

**Steel-type Pokemon**: As Steel-types resist both Dragon- and Psychic-type attacks, they're able to easily wall Latias. Aegislash's high defenses in Shield forme and its Ghost typing allow it to both take hits well and strike back hard. Ferrothorn's Gyro Ball deals a lot of damage to Latias as a result of it being so fast. Heatran, particularly the Choice Specs variant, has few problems taking hits but (I don't see how these things are related in a "but" way? change to and or quote me and explain what you meant) can dish back good damage. It should beware of a Choice Specs-boosted Surf, however, as this can 2HKO even bulkier variants. Mega Lucario outspeeds Latias and can deal large damage with Iron Tail, OHKOing it after a Swords Dance boost. Scizor takes little damage from either of Latias's STAB moves and easily OHKOes even bulky sets with Bug Bite.

**Speed Control**: Almost all variants of Latias rely on their high Speed, which makes them vulnerable to various forms of speed control. Thunder Wave from Pokemon such as Thundurus, Rotom-W, and Cresselia quarters Latias's Speed. The latter two should be wary against Calm Mind variants however, as they can merely end up as setup fodder. Icy Wind from users such as Gengar and Suicune hits Latias super effectively and lowers its Speed by one stage. Trick Room set by Pokemon such as Cresselia, Porygon2, and Slowbro allows slower Pokemon to move first.
 
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