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Lilligant (GP: 2/2)

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  1. Jubilee

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    [Overview]

    <p>Don't let Lilligant's delicate appearance deceive you; Lilligant is one of the most threatening sweepers in the RU tier. Combine her excellent base 110 Special Attack and base 90 Speed with her access to Sleep Powder and Quiver Dance, add the correct team support, and you've got one hell of a special sweeper. Indeed, what makes her so threatening is her access to those two moves, Sleep Powder and Quiver Dance. Sleep Powder allows her to render useless a check or counter so she can continue boosting with Quiver Dance. Speaking of Quiver Dance, Lilligant is one of the few Pokemon to receive this magnificent boosting move, and is actually the only Grass-type to receive it.</p>

    <p>However, not all is good for Lilligant. Grass is one of the worst offensive types in the game, forcing Lilligant to rely on Hidden Power for coverage. Even with help from Hidden Power, though, Lilligant still suffers from coverage issues. Nevertheless, Lilligant is a unique and dangerous sweeper with just enough tools to pose a threat, and is an excellent choice for any team in need of a special sweeper.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Offensive Quiver Dance
    move 1: Quiver Dance
    move 2: Sleep Powder
    move 3: Giga Drain / Petal Dance
    move 4: Hidden Power Rock / Hidden Power Fire
    item: Life Orb / Lum Berry
    ability: Chlorophyll
    nature: Timid / Modest
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Quiver Dance is the perfect move for a special sweeper and Lilligant has just the stats to use it. Quiver Dance boosts Lilligant's Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed by 1 stage, which automatically makes her an offensive threat. Sleep Powder allows Lilligant to put incapacitate a check and or counter such as Ferroseed, Munchlax, Honchkrow (without Insomnia), and Entei. Giga Drain gives Lilligant a reliable STAB move while also recovering HP from damage and Life Orb recoil, prolonging her sweep. Petal Dance can be used for a significantly stronger STAB, but if one opts for Petal Dance, be sure to use the ability Own Tempo instead to prevent Petal Dance's confusion effect. Although Petal Dance has much more power than Giga Drain, it comes at a price: being locked into Petal Dance for 2 or 3 turns can be risky, especially since Grass is not the best offensive type. Hidden Power Fire allows Lilligant to hit Grass- and Steel-types who resist Lilligant's Grass-type STAB such as Ferroseed and Rotom-C. Alternatively, Hidden Power Rock gives Lilligant coverage on Flying- and Fire-types such as Entei, Honchkrow, and Moltres. Both are equally good options, therefore your choice of Hidden Power type should depend on what the rest of your team can help Lilligant beat.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Other than the moves listed, Lilligant has few other offensive options. Leaf Storm can be used for its high Base Power, but comes at the cost of lowering Lilligant's Special Attack by 2 stages. Leftovers can be used as well to provide Lilligant with small recovery each turn.</p>

    <p>Team support is very, very crucial for Lilligant to pull of a successful sweep and relies on the Hidden Power type you choose. If Lilligant chooses Hidden Power Fire, Flying- and Fire-types like Entei and Honchkrow take little damage from both of Lilligant's attacks while being able to threaten back with a super effective attack. Therefore, bulky Water-types such as Alomomola and Omastar make excellent partners to such Lilligant. Lilligant that opt for Hidden Power Rock are walled by opposing Grass- and Steel-types such as Ferroseed, Victreebel, and other Grass-types with a secondary Poison typing. Fire-types such as Entei and Moltres hence pair nicely with this Lilligant. While both Hidden Power options are useful, Hidden Power Rock is generally more useful since Grass- and especially Steel-types are quite uncommon in the tier.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Bulky Quiver Dance
    move 1: Quiver Dance
    move 2: Sleep Powder / Aromatherapy
    move 3: Giga Drain
    move 4: Hidden Power Rock / Hidden Power Fire
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Chlorophyll
    nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 HP / 188 Def / 68 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set makes greater use of Lilligant's decent 70 / 75 / 75 defenses, allowing her to take hits better and set up more Quiver Dances. Just like the offensive set, Giga Drain provides Lilligant with reliable STAB and a form of recovery while Sleep Powder allows Lilligant to put checks and counters to sleep. However, Aromatherapy can be used over Sleep Powder to cure Lilligant of crippling status ailments like Toxic and Thunder Wave from Pokemon such as Ferroseed and Slowking. This allows her to set up on such Pokemon without fear and continue boosting with Quiver Dance, and also provide cleric support to the rest of her team. The EVs and nature enable a boosted Lilligant to outspeed Swellow, Sceptile, and Alakazam, while 252 HP and Defense EVs provide bulk.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p> Again, what support Lilligant requires depends on her choice of Hidden Power. The same coverage issues from the offensive set apply here as well. If Lilligant chooses Hidden Power Fire, Flying- and Fire-types take little from her attacks and threaten with super effective STAB attacks, while Hidden Power Rock versions are walled by opposing Grass- and Steel-types. Therefore, the same teammates listed in the offensive version—Alomomola, Omastar, Entei, and Moltres—also make excellent partners to this set. Just like the offensive version, Hidden Power Rock is preferred on this set as well, since Steel- and Grass-types are uncommon in RU; furthermore, they can do little back once Lilligant has gained a few Quiver Dance boosts, even more so if Lilligant opts for Aromatherapy.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Lilligant has literally no other offensive options. Its offensive movepool is very shallow and only contains Grass-type moves. However, Lilligant has an excellent support movepool, consisting of moves such as Sleep Powder, Stun Spore, Toxic, Healing Wish, Leech Seed, Light Screen, and Aromatherapy. With these, a specially or physically defensive set is viable. A set of 252 HP / 252 Def or SpD / 4 SpA, and a Bold or Calm nature can be used.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Eviolite Munchlax makes an excellent check to Lilligant; Munchlax's high Special Defense allows him to take boosted hits and threaten Lilligant with Body Slam or Whirlwind Lilligant out. Ferroseed walls sets without Hidden Power Fire and can cripple Lilligant with Thunder Wave, or take Lilligant down with repeated Gyro Balls. However, bulky Quiver Dance versions with Aromatherapy beat Ferroseed because it can do little back while Lilligant continues boosting. Sets without Hidden Power Fire are also walled by opposing Grass-types such as Rotom-C and Victreebel. Conversely, sets without Hidden Power Rock fall victim to Fire- and Flying-types such as Entei and Moltres, both of whom have decent Special Defense and can hit back hard. Insomnia Honchkrow deserves a special mention as a check to sets without Hidden Power Rock, as it is immune to sleep, resists Grass, will take little from Hidden Power Fire, and can OHKO with STAB Brave Bird. Bouffalant with the ability Sap Sipper deserves special mention as well. Sap Sipper makes him immune to both Sleep Powder, and Lilligant's Grass-type STAB attacks, his defenses will allow him to take a neutral Hidden Power, and he can hit back hard with a STAB Head Charge or a super effective Megahorn.</p>
  2. elDino

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    Wouldn't you want to have Chlorophyll in case of sun teams?
    I mean yeah use Own Tempo with Petal Dance, but Chlorophyll is probably the better option in other cases...
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    I'm not sure if sun teams are exactly common in RU, but I haven't seen many at all... Either way, I changed the ability on the sets to Chlorophyll and mentioned to use Own Tempo with Petal Dance.
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    maybe mention sub in AC on both sets? On the first set it can protect it from status and since you have giga drain, you can still use life orb. And on the second set, it like the sub quiver dance volcarona has, execpt it's bulkier. Maybe slash it with sleepowder?
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    Sun teams are very good, chloro is the primary option.

    Slash Lum on offensive quiver dance.

    I remember aromatherapy working reasonably well on a bulky dancer set but for the life of me I can't remember what it goes over, I assume sleep powder.

    On the bulky dancer run 252 HP/188 Def/68 Speed with timid to get the jump on Swellow (it's mostly for Alakazam, but it's only 28 EVs extra to beat Swellow).

    With a resistance to grass, immunity to sleep, and powerful sucker punch honchkrow can switch in easily and proceed to scare lilligant out. Add it to checks/counters.

    Mention in OO that the offensive set can use leftovers.

    As far as the bulky dancer set goes, it's not as good as the sweeper but it's certainly not awful and has its place, mostly for when you want lilligant to be able to use its typing to switch into attacks instead of being a straight up sweeper. I say keep it.

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    edit: No, it doesn't have room for subs. It can't afford to give up sleep powder, it's too good.
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    It's not possible to be "arguably one of the best". Change it to either "one of the best" or "arguably the best"
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    Slash Lum on offensive set and slash Aromatherapy with Sleep Powder on the bulky set.

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    Mentioned and changed, thanks! :)
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    Okay, this is written up and ready for GP checks. :)
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    [Overview]

    <p>Don't let Lilligant's cute looks decieve you, Lilligant is one of the most threatening sweepers in the tier. Combine her excellent base 110 Special Attack and base 90 Speed and with her access to Sleep Powder and Quiver Dance and you got one hell of a special sweeper with the correct team support. What makes her so threatening is those two moves, Sleep Powder and Quiver Dance. Sleep Powder allows her to put any checks and coutners counters to asleep so she can continue boosting. Speaking of Quiver Dance, Lilligant is one of the few Pokemon to recieve the magnificaent boosting move (and is actuallly the only Grass-type who recieves it.)</p>

    <p>However, not all is good for Lilligant. As most Grass-types already know, they have one one the worst offensive types in the game. Combine this with Lilligant's horrible offensive movepool making her ,she is forced to rely on Hidden Power for coverage. Even with help from Hidden Power, Lilligant still suffers from coverage issues. Nevertheless, Lilligant is a dangerous sweeper with what she has and is an excellent choice for any team in need of a special sweeper.</p>

    [SET]

    name: Offensive Quiver Dance
    move 1: Quiver Dance
    move 2: Sleep Powder
    move 3: Giga Drain / Petal Dance
    move 4: Hidden Power Rock / Hidden Power Fire
    item: Life Orb / Lum Berry
    ability: Chlorophyll
    nature: Timid / Modest
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Quiver Dance is the perfect move for a special sweeper and Lilligant has the perfect stats to use with it it with. Quiver Dance boosts Lilligant's Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed by 1 which automatically makes her an offensive threat. Sleep Powder allows Lilligant to put asleep any checks and counters such as Ferroseed, Munchlax, Honchkrow (without Insomnia), and Entei. Giga Drain gives Lilligant a reliable STAB move while also recovering her HP from damage and Life Orb recoil which allows her to sweep longer. Petal Dance can be used as a much stronger STAB attack option., but if one opts for Petal Dance, Lilligant should use the ability Own Tempo instead to prevent Petal Dance's confusion effect. Although Petal Dance has much more power than Giga Drain, it comes at a price, being locked into Petal Dance for 2-3 turns can be risky, especially since Grass is not the best offensive type. Hidden Power Fire allows Lilligant to hit Grass- and Steel-types who resist Lilligant's Grass-type STAB such as Ferroseed and Rotom-C. Hidden Power Rock allows Lilligant to hit Flying- and Fire-types who also resist Lilligant's Grass-type STAB such as Entei, Honchkrow, and Moltres. Both are equally good options, therefore the choice between the Hidden Power type relies on what your team can help Lilligant beat.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Other than the moves listed, Lilligant has few other offensive options. Leaf Storm can be used for its high base power, but comes at the cost of lowering Lilligant's Special Attack by 2. Leftovers can be used as well to provide Lilligant with small recovery each turn.</p>

    <p>Team support is very, very crucial for Lilligant to pull of a successful sweep and relies on the Hidden Power type you choose. If Lilligant chooses Hidden Power Fire, Flying- and Fire-types like Entei and Honchkrow take little damage from both of Lilligant's attacks while being able to threaten back with a super effective attack. Therefore, bulky Water-types such as Alomomola and Omastar make excellent partners to Lilligant. Lilligant that opts for Hidden Power Rock is are walled by opposing Grass- and Steel-types such as Ferroseed, Victreebel, and the other multitude of Grass-types with a secondary Poison typing. Therefore, Fire-types such as Entei and Moltres make excellent offensive partners to Lilligant. While both Hidden Power options are useful, Hidden Power Rock is generally more useful since Grass- and especially Steel-types are quite uncommon in the tier.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Bulky Quiver Dance
    move 1: Quiver Dance
    move 2: Sleep Powder / Aromatherapy
    move 3: Giga Drain
    move 4: Hidden Power Rock / Hidden Power Fire
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Chlorophyll
    nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 HP / 188 Def / 68 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set utilizes Lilligant's decent 70 / 75 / 75 defenses allowing her to take hits better and set up more Quiver Dances. Just like the offensive set, Giga Drain provides Lilligant with reliable STAB and a form of recovery while Sleep Powder allows Lilligant to put checks and counter to sleep. However, Aromatherapy can be used over Sleep Powder to cure Lilligant of any crippling status ailments such as Toxic and Thunder Wave from Pokemon such as Ferroseed and Slowking. This allows her to set up on such Pokemon without fear and continue boosting with Quiver Dance, while also being able to heal any of her teammates of status ailments as well. The EVs and nature provide Lilligant with enough Speed after a Quiver Dance to outspeed Swellow and other threats such as Sceptile and Alakazam, while 252 HP and the rest in Defense provides bulk.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Again, support for Lilligant is very reliant on the Hidden Power type she chooses. The same coverage issues from the offensive set apply here as well. If Lilligant chooses Hidden Power Fire, Flying- and Fire-types take little from her attacks and threaten with super effective STAB attacks, while Hidden Power Rock versions are walled by opposing Grass- and Steel-types. Therefore, the same teammates listed in the offensive version make excellent partners to this set as well. Just like the offensive version, Hidden Power Rock is preferred on this set as well. Since Steel- and Grass-types are uncommon in RU and because they can do little back once Lilligant has Quiver Danced a few times and especially if Lilligant opts for Aromatherapy.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Lilligant has literally no other offensive options. Its movepool is very shallow and consists mostly of Grass-type moves. However, Lilligant has an excellent support movepool consisting of moves such as Sleep Powder, Stun Spore, Toxic, Healing Wish, Leech Seed, Light Screen, and Aromatherapy. With these, a specially defensive or physically defensive set is viable. A set of 252 HP / 252 Def or SpD (depending on the nature chosen) / 4 SpA, and a Bold or Calm nature can be used.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Munchlax equipped with an Eeviolite makes an excellent check to Lilligant. Munchlax's high Special Defense allows him to take boosted hits and threaten Lilligant with Body Slam or Whirlwind Lilligant out. Ferroseed walls sets without Hidden Power Fire and can cripple Lilligant with Thunder Wave or take Lilligant down with repeated Gyro Balls. However, bulky Quiver Dance versions with Aromatherapy beat Ferroseed because it can do little back while Lilligant continues boosting. Sets without Hidden Power Fire are also walled by opposing Grass-types such as Rotom-C and Victreebel. Sets without Hidden Power Rock fall victim to Fire- and Flying-types such as Entei and Moltres, both of which have decent Special Defense and can hit back hard. Honchkrow deserves special mention to as a check to sets without Hidden Power Rock, as it is immune to sleep if it has Insomnia, resists Grass, will take little from Hidden Power Fire, and can OHKO with a STAB Brave Bird.</p>
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    Changes made, thanks. :)
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    Cloud 8's check looks good, but there are some things he missed that I'm gonna post.


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    changes made, thanks.
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    Just as a quick follow-up:

    Hidden Power Fire allows Lilligant to hit Grass- and Steel-types who resist Lilligant's Grass-type STAB such as Ferroseed and Rotom-C., while Hidden Power Rock allows Lilligant to hit Flying- and Fire-types who also resist Lilligant's Grass-type STAB such as Entei, Honchkrow, and Moltres.

    Munchlax equipped with an Eviolite makes an excellent check to Lilligant. Munchlax's high Special Defense allows him to take boosted hits and threaten Lilligant with Body Slam or Whirlwind Lilligant out to eliminate any boosts.

    Both changes are optional though. Thats just my opinion.
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    amateur gp check!

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    [Overview]

    <p>Don't let Lilligant's cute looks delicate appearance deceive you; Lilligant is one of the most threatening sweepers in the RU tier. Combine her excellent base 110 Special Attack and base 90 Speed with her access to Sleep Powder and Quiver Dance, add the correct team support, and you've got one hell of a special sweeper with the correct team support. Indeed, what makes her so threatening is her access to those two moves, Sleep Powder and Quiver Dance. Sleep Powder allows her to put any checks and counters to sleep render useless a check or counter so she can continue boosting with Quiver Dance. Speaking of Quiver Dance, Lilligant is one of the few Pokemon to receive the this magnificent boosting move, and is actuallly the only Grass-type who to receives it.</p>

    <p>However, not all is good for Lilligant. Grass is one one of the worst offensive types in the game, and combine this with Lilligant's horrible offensive movepool, she is forcing Lilligant to rely on Hidden Power for coverage. Even with help from Hidden Power, though, Lilligant still suffers from coverage issues. Nevertheless, Lilligant is a unique and dangerous sweeper with what she has just enough tools to pose a threat, and is an excellent choice for any team in need of a special sweeper.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Offensive Quiver Dance
    move 1: Quiver Dance
    move 2: Sleep Powder
    move 3: Giga Drain / Petal Dance
    move 4: Hidden Power Rock / Hidden Power Fire
    item: Life Orb / Lum Berry
    ability: Chlorophyll
    nature: Timid / Modest
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Quiver Dance is the perfect move for a special sweeper and Lilligant has the perfect just the stats to use it with. Quiver Dance boosts Lilligant's Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed by 1 stage, which automatically makes her an offensive threat. Sleep Powder allows Lilligant to put asleep incapacitate a any checks and or counters such as Ferroseed, Munchlax, Honchkrow (without Insomnia), and Entei. Giga Drain gives Lilligant a reliable STAB move while also recovering her HP from damage and Life Orb recoil, which allow prolonging her to sweep longer. Petal Dance can be used as a much for a significantly stronger STAB attack option, but if one opts for Petal Dance, Lilligant should be sure to use the ability Own Tempo instead to prevent Petal Dance's confusion effect. Although Petal Dance has much more power than Giga Drain, it comes at a price: being locked into Petal Dance for 2 or 3 turns can be risky, especially since Grass is not the best offensive type. Hidden Power Fire allows Lilligant to hit Grass- and Steel-types who resist Lilligant's Grass-type STAB such as Ferroseed and Rotom-C. Alternatively, Hidden Power Rock allows gives Lilligant to hit coverage on Flying- and Fire-types who also resist Lilligant's Grass-type STAB such as Entei, Honchkrow, and Moltres. Both are equally good options, therefore the your choice between the of Hidden Power type relies should depend on what the rest of your team can help Lilligant beat.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Other than the moves listed, Lilligant has few other offensive options. Leaf Storm can be used for its high Base Power, but comes at the cost of lowering Lilligant's Special Attack by 2 stages. Leftovers can be used as well to provide Lilligant with small recovery each turn.</p>

    <p>Team support is very, very crucial for Lilligant to pull of a successful sweep and relies on the Hidden Power type you choose. If Lilligant chooses Hidden Power Fire, Flying- and Fire-types like Entei and Honchkrow take little damage from both of Lilligant's attacks while being able to threaten back with a super effective attack. Therefore, bulky Water-types such as Alomomola and Omastar make excellent partners to such Lilligant. Lilligant that opt for Hidden Power Rock are walled by opposing Grass- and Steel-types such as Ferroseed, Victreebel, and the other Grass-types with a secondary Poison typing. Therefore, Fire-types such as Entei and Moltres hence make excellent offensive partners to pair nicely with this Lilligant. While both Hidden Power options are useful, Hidden Power Rock is generally more useful since Grass- and especially Steel-types are quite uncommon in the tier.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Bulky Quiver Dance
    move 1: Quiver Dance
    move 2: Sleep Powder / Aromatherapy
    move 3: Giga Drain
    move 4: Hidden Power Rock / Hidden Power Fire
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Chlorophyll
    nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 HP / 188 Def / 68 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set utilizes makes greater use of Lilligant's decent 70 / 75 / 75 defenses, allowing her to take hits better and set up more Quiver Dances. Just like the offensive set, Giga Drain provides Lilligant with reliable STAB and a form of recovery while Sleep Powder allows Lilligant to put checks and counters to sleep. However, Aromatherapy can be used over Sleep Powder to cure Lilligant of any crippling status ailments such as like Toxic and Thunder Wave from Pokemon such as Ferroseed and Slowking. This allows her to set up on such Pokemon without fear and continue boosting with Quiver Dance, while also being able to heal any of her teammates of status ailments as well and also provide cleric support to the rest of her team. The EVs and nature provide Lilligant with enough Speed after a Quiver Dance enable a boosted Lilligant to outspeed Swellow, and other threats such as Sceptile, and Alakazam, while 252 HP and Defense EVs provides bulk.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p> Again, support for Lilligant is very reliant on the Hidden Power type she chooses what support Lilligant requires depends on her choice of Hidden Power. The same coverage issues from the offensive set apply here as well. If Lilligant chooses Hidden Power Fire, Flying- and Fire-types take little from her attacks and threaten with super effective STAB attacks, while Hidden Power Rock versions are walled by opposing Grass- and Steel-types. Therefore, the same teammates listed in the offensive version—Alomomola, Omastar, Entei, and Moltres—also make excellent partners to this set as well. Just like the offensive version, Hidden Power Rock is preferred on this set as well, since Steel- and Grass-types are uncommon in RU. and; furthermore, they can do little back once Lilligant has gained a few Quiver Danced boosts a few times and especially, even more so if Lilligant opts for Aromatherapy.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Lilligant has literally no other offensive options. Its offensive movepool is very shallow and consists mostly of only contains Grass-type moves. However, Lilligant has an excellent support movepool, consisting of moves such as Sleep Powder, Stun Spore, Toxic, Healing Wish, Leech Seed, Light Screen, and Aromatherapy. With these, a specially defensive or physically defensive set is viable. A set of 252 HP / 252 Def or SpD (depending on the nature chosen) / 4 SpA, and a Bold or Calm nature can be used.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Eviolite Munchlax equipped with an Eviolite makes an excellent check to Lilligant; Munchlax's high Special Defense allows him to take boosted hits and threaten Lilligant with Body Slam or Whirlwind Lilligant out. Ferroseed walls sets without Hidden Power Fire and can cripple Lilligant with Thunder Wave, or take Lilligant down with repeated Gyro Balls. However, bulky Quiver Dance versions with Aromatherapy beat Ferroseed because it can do little back while Lilligant continues boosting. Sets without Hidden Power Fire are also walled by opposing Grass-types such as Rotom-C and Victreebel. Conversely, sets without Hidden Power Rock fall victim to Fire- and Flying-types such as Entei and Moltres, both of which whom have decent Special Defense and can hit back hard. Insomnia Honchkrow deserves a special mention as a check to sets without Hidden Power Rock, as it is immune to sleep if it has Insomnia, resists Grass, will take little from Hidden Power Fire, and can OHKO with a STAB Brave Bird.</p>
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    wouldn't it be good to mention sap sipper bouffalant as a complete counter. Immunity to sleep powder and her stab move, with his excellent defenses he takes very little from neutral hidden powers and cheerfully ohkos lilligant, especially if it switches into a grass move
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    Mentioned Bouffalant with Sap Sipper in CC, thanks.
    Thanks for the GP check, sirndpt.

    This is now done. :D
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    You know, 248hp evs gives you a leftovers number.
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    so just totally uploaded the first ever RU analysis

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