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Little Cup OU list

Discussion in 'Little Cup' started by eric the espeon, May 17, 2010.

  1. eric the espeon

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    Current one generated from jan/march/feb stats, will be updated whenever new stats come out since we don't have to worry about destabilising LC UU.

    Anorith, Cyndaquil, Eevee, Horsea, Magby, Magnemite, Onix, Slowpoke, Squirtle, Wailmer, and Wooper are no longer OU.

    Abra, Aipom, Bagon, Chimchar, Koffing, Omanyte, and Totodile are now in OU.

    There are now 39 Pokemon in Little Cup-OU.

    Code:
     Abra       
     Aipom      
     Aron     
     Bagon       
     Bronzor    
     Buizel     
     Carvanha   
     Chimchar   
     Chinchou   
     Croagunk   
     Diglett    
     Dratini    
     Drifloon   
     Duskull    
     Elekid     
     Gastly     
     Gible      
     Gligar     
     Hippopotas 
     Houndour   
     Kabuto     
     Koffing    
     Machop     
     Mankey     
     Mantyke    
     Meowth     
     Munchlax   
     Omanyte    
     Paras      
     Phanpy     
     Porygon    
     Snover     
     Staryu     
     Stunky     
     Taillow    
     Totodile   
     Voltorb    
     Wynaut     
    
    Interestingly, despite the huge weighting towards the most recent stats (20:3:1) Missy would still have made the OU list despite not being legal in the most recent batch of stats.

    Edit: Have some numbers:

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    format gets kinda messed up by Pokemon with months when they get no use usage/those with long names, may fix sometime.
    Columns: Pokemon | converted usage for jan | converted usage for feb | converted usage for March | combined weighted usage
    Ordered by combined weighted usage. Bagon is the cut off point.
    Code:
     Gligar         0.081846502    0.068691251    0.0830033    0.080250296
     Croagunk       0.069314642    0.045071102    0.041006601    0.065104698
     Gastly         0.067544605    0.02615088    0.017656766    0.060291729
     Houndour       0.064712546    0.03362256    0.03679868    0.05966322
     Munchlax       0.053242708    0.04736081    0.061221122    0.052839905
     Chinchou       0.045312943    0.035068691    0.014768977    0.042759746
     Bronzor        0.045312943    0.02175223    0.028877888    0.04168306
     Dratini        0.03462192    0.039346831    0.027970297    0.034935383
     Wynaut         0.030798641    0.032537961    0.028465347    0.030918835
     Machop         0.028745398    0.025066281    0.037211221    0.028638251
     Snover         0.026550552    0.030670041    0.041171617    0.027674699
     Elekid         0.026762957    0.030730297    0.030610561    0.027419191
     Kabuto         0.025134523    0.02120993    0.031188119    0.024896182
     Aron           0.022373265    0.014521572    0.002805281    0.020576471
     Mantyke        0.018691589    0.032839238    0.008663366    0.020042203
     Meowth         0.019682809    0.014160039    0.022524753    0.019110877
     Carvanha       0.015434721    0.01747409    0.047937294    0.017043916
     Duskull        0.017063155    0.015907448    0.00519802    0.016424311
     Paras          0.014514302    0.02560858    0.00470297    0.015492281
     Omanyte        0.014797508    0.016329236    0.02029703    0.015218121
     Diglett        0.015222317    0.012774163    0.011881188    0.014777084
     Mankey         0.013806287    0.005422994    0.016749175    0.012880996
     Misdreavus         0.062424681    0.11980198    0.012794834
     Taillow        0.009983008    0.019281755    0.005115512    0.010942539
     Chimchar       0.009062589    0.01747409    0.007590759    0.0100527
     Staryu         0.009770603    0.010183177    0.013778878    0.009989186
     Porygon        0.010337015    0.007772957    0.006105611    0.009840199
     Drifloon       0.009416596    0.011267775    0.002640264    0.009365646
     Stunky         0.004885302    0.022897084    0.032755776    0.008298045
     Aipom          0.00913339    0.001024343    0.009158416    0.008120802
     Hippopotas     0.006867743    0.014099783    0.010313531    0.007915323
     Totodile       0.008920986    0.001626898    0.00379538    0.007795658
     Koffing        0.008708581    0.001988431    0.000577558    0.00752977
     Voltorb        0.00672614    0.010484454    0.012541254    0.007438226
     Buizel         0.006796941    0.010424199    0.00660066    0.00724217
     Abra           0.007080147    0.00867679    0.002475248    0.007087857
     Phanpy         0.007080147    0.00626657    0.004537954    0.006872525
     Gible          0.005805721    0.009701133    0.003712871    0.006205445
     Bagon          0.006301331    0.005061461    0.005280528    0.006103814
     Slowpoke       0.006018125    0.003434563    0.00140264    0.005502868
     Cranidos       0.004743699    0.003434563    0.014356436    0.004980588
     Krabby         0.004885302    0.004278139    0.004125413    0.004777745
     Onix           0.005380912    0.00120511    0.002887789    0.004755057
     Eevee          0.0048145    0.004880694    0.002062706    0.004708116
     Magnemite      0.00431889    0.005362738    0.003052805    0.004396617
     Ponyta         0.00240725    0.016268981    0.004620462    0.004232184
     Riolu          0.004389691    0.002470475    0.001567657    0.004032204
     Poliwag        0.003327669    0.008074235    0.002310231    0.003878597
     Teddiursa      0.003256868    0.007833213    0.002392739    0.003792906
     Magby          0.003752478    0.002952519    0.003877888    0.003657709
     Turtwig        0.004177287    0.000964088    0.00049505    0.003622211
     Wailmer        0.003610875    0.001928176    0.002557756    0.003356658
     Bellsprout     0.003540074    0.001566643    0.00049505    0.003166519
     Lileep         0.002619655    0.006507592    0.001485149    0.003058376
     Horsea         0.001840838    0.007712702    0.00990099    0.002910661
     Shuppet        0.002832059    0.003856351    0.000825083    0.002876472
     Trapinch       0.003327669    0.000602555        0.002848377
     Squirtle       0.002761258    0.003916606    0.001072607    0.002835316
     Charmander     0.002973662    0.001265365    0.000660066    0.002663725
     Natu           0.002548853    0.001747409    0.002145215    0.002431854
     Exeggcute      0.002478052    0.000964088    0.00049505    0.002206181
     Anorith        0.001840838    0.003856351    0.002805281    0.002132962
     Shinx          0.002478052        0.000165017    0.002071919
     Larvitar       0.00191164    0.00186792    0.001567657    0.001891842
     Bulbasaur      0.001628434    0.003193541    0.000660066    0.001783724
     Growlithe      0.001982441    0.000421788    0.001320132    0.001759763
     Cacnea         0.00141603    0.003314052    0.003630363    0.001745547
     Cubone         0.001699235    0.001265365    0.000660066    0.001601703
     Hoothoot       0.001840838    0.000180767        0.001556628
     Mareep         0.00141603    6.02555E-05    0.001155116    0.001235687
     Barboach       0.000920419    0.002952519    0.000660066    0.001163583
     Bidoof         0.001203625    0.00120511        0.00115366
     Pineco         0.000849618    0.001024343    0.006353135    0.001100772
     Zigzagoon      0.001062022    0.000964088    0.001650165    0.001074286
     Venonat        0.000566412    0.00373584    0.002145215    0.001028374
     Grimer         0.001203625    6.02555E-05    0.000412541    0.001027742
     Shroomish      0.000778816    0.001928176    0.003135314    0.001020673
     Shellder       0.000920419    0.001687154    0.000577558    0.001001975
     Geodude        0.000920419    0.000602555    0.001072607    0.000887027
     Buneary        0.000354007    0.002289708    0.006023102    0.000832182
     Doduo          0.000708015    0.001566643    0.000990099    0.000827097
     Baltoy         0.000849618    0.000783321    0.000165017    0.000812806
     Ekans          0.000424809    0.002349964    0.003547855    0.00079558
     Smoochum       0.000778816    0.001084599        0.000784588
     Lickitung      0.00049561    0.00186792    0.003217822    0.000780574
     Oddish         0.000778816    0.00066281    0.000165017    0.00073874
     Mime Jr.       0.000283206    0.003976862    8.25083E-05    0.000736551
     Spheal         0.000566412    0.001988431    0.000330033    0.000734315
     Clamperl       0.000424809    0.002349964    0.001732673    0.000719948
     Snorunt        0.000354007    0.003314052        0.000709262
     Makuhita       0.000778816    0.000241022    0.000330033    0.000692892
     Seel           0.000424809    0.002169197    0.000412541    0.000642346
     Glameow        0.000637213    0.00066281    0.000247525    0.000624176
     Slugma         0.00049561    0.001024343    0.000247525    0.000551365
     Torchic        0.00049561    0.000903832    0.000330033    0.000539739
     Tentacool      0.000424809    0.000723066    0.000990099    0.000485645
     Numel          0.000354007    0.001385876    0.000412541    0.00048543
     Skitty         0.000566412            0.00047201
     Chikorita      0.000424809    0.000602555    0.000742574    0.000460267
     Cyndaquil      0.000354007    0.001144854    0.00049505    0.00045874
     Corphish       0.00049561    0.000301277    0.000165017    0.000457544
     Treecko        7.08E-05    0.002229453    0.002805281    0.00045457
     Drowzee        0.000424809        0.002392739    0.000453705
     Poochyena      0.00049561    0.000241022        0.000443136
     Vulpix         0.00049561    0.000120511        0.000428072
     Nosepass       0.000424809    0.000421788    8.25083E-05    0.000410169
     Swablu         0.000424809    0.000180767    0.000247525    0.000386917
     Remoraid       0.000283206    0.000361533    0.001155116    0.000329326
     Goldeen        0.000283206    0.000361533    0.00049505    0.000301824
     Rhyhorn        0.000212405    0.000301277    0.000907591    0.00025248
     Swinub         0.000141603    0.000964088    0.000247525    0.000248827
     Electrike      0.000283206    6.02555E-05    8.25083E-05    0.000246975
     Shieldon       0.000212405    0.000482044    0.000165017    0.000244135
     Cherubi        0.000283206    6.02555E-05        0.000243537
     Seedot         0.000141603    0.000783321    0.000247525    0.000226231
     Tyrogue        0.000212405    0.000361533        0.000222196
     Sandshrew          0.000903832    0.002557756    0.000219552
     Sentret        7.08E-05    0.001144854        0.000202108
     Ralts          0.000141603    0.000180767    0.000660066    0.000168101
     Pidgey         0.000141603    0.000361533        0.000163194
     Wooper             0.000964088    0.00049505    0.000141138
     Lotad          0.000141603    6.02555E-05    0.000330033    0.000139286
     Cleffa             0.001084599        0.000135575
     Azurill        0.000141603            0.000118003
     Skorupi        7.08E-05    0.000361533    0.000330033    0.000117944
     Ledyba         7.08E-05    0.000301277    0.000412541    0.00011385
     Psyduck            0.000421788    0.000742574    8.36641E-05
     Surskit            0.000361533    0.000660066    7.26944E-05
     Spoink         7.08E-05    6.02555E-05    8.25083E-05    6.9971E-05
     Hoppip         7.08E-05    6.02555E-05        6.65332E-05
     Piplup             0.000241022    0.000742574    6.10683E-05
     Wingull        7.08E-05            5.90013E-05
     Azumarill      7.08E-05            5.90013E-05
     Shiftry        7.08E-05            5.90013E-05
     Pichu              0.000361533    0.000330033    0.000058943
     Spinarak           0.000421788    8.25083E-05    5.61613E-05
     Mudkip             0.000301277    0.000247525    4.79732E-05
     Igglybuff          0.000120511    0.000742574    4.60045E-05
     Zubat              0.000301277    0.000165017    4.45353E-05
     Budew              0.000301277        3.76596E-05
     Nidoran-m            0.000825083    3.43785E-05
     Finneon            6.03E-05    0.000577558    3.15969E-05
     Spearow            0.000180767    8.25083E-05    2.60337E-05
     Shellos            0.000577558    2.40649E-05
     Snubbull           0.000180767        2.25959E-05
     Combee             0.000180767        2.25959E-05
     Togepi             6.03E-05    0.000247525    1.78455E-05
     Marill             0.000412541    1.71892E-05
     Starly             0.000120511        1.50639E-05
     Bonsly             6.03E-05        7.53194E-06
     Magikarp             0.000165017    6.87571E-06
     Happiny            0.000165017    6.87571E-06
     Feebas             0.000165017    6.87571E-06
     Weedle             8.25E-05    3.43785E-06
     Wurmple            8.25E-05    3.43785E-06
     Beldum             8.25E-05    3.43785E-06
     Burmy            8.25E-05    3.43785E-06
     Caterpie             8.25E-05    3.43785E-06
     Nincada            8.25E-05    3.43785E-06
    
  2. kd24

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    I hope people aren't afraid to post here :(

    My predictions
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    The only "locks" to stay in the top 5 will be Gligar (thanks to phenomenal stats, typing, and moves) and Gastly (best choice scarfer, has 3 immunities and hits everything hard enough to 2hko (except lileep in sand, some bronzor, and munchlax). As far as croagunk, hounour, and munchlax go, they are definitely not guaranteed to retain their top 5 status. Machop is now becoming popular as far as fighting-types go thanks to DynamicPunch and having merit as a lead. With Snover's fairly high usage, is a water absorber / RD counter so important? Houndour is not digging the high usage of Carvahna, who can kill Houndour as well. Vahna makes a much better sweeper, although Houndour does have him beat as far as mixed sets go. Munchlax is the best special wall in LC but the game is shifting to physical attackers in my eyes, or even more stallish play. Munchlax is still very good but it is already teetering at that 5th slot, don't be surprised to see Chinchou or Bronzor jump him.

    Krabby and Lileep will jump to OU I think, its rapid popularity thanks to Eo is catching on. Krabby is a great Agility sweeper and only 2 slots down from the cutoff.

    As far as the metagame goes: More physical attackers with a special sweeping cleaner, such as Mantyke.
  3. Banryu

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    Er, I wasn't sure if we were supposed to post here. o___o

    Yeah, I'm definitely expecting Lileep to jump up there, it's incredibly hard to kill in Sandstorm and stuff. I'm kind of surprised to see Anorith drop, though... his speed and Attack are great, it's too bad he's not seeing more usage.
  4. Heysup

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    I think the #littlecup cups would actually give a more accurate reading of what's being used. Anyway, no surprises here.
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    I'm not sure how great stats from the #littlecup cups would be because, for example people like Eo use the same team every time, which would end up weighting the stats.
  6. eric the espeon

    eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood
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    When the next set of stats comes out, I'm going to try and extract LC stats from the unrated CaP battles. There will be a fair amount of pollution from unrated NU/other NFEs, but it should be possible to filter out a majority of the noise. Not sure if we should base the OU list off that, but it's always nice to have more stats.
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    Since when is indirectly weighting the stats a bad thing? Isn't that a good thing? In fact that's probably the best thing about them; it indirectly weighs the stats to see what the winners are using because they get to play more matches.
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    Incidentally, I know the lists are based primarily off of usage, but usage depends on which Pokemon are effective and whatnot. For the most part, I think we have a fairly accurate reading of that...
  9. TPM

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    Now that we have May stats is this getting updated?
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    I doubt Croagunk will ever loose the top 5 status as he is one of little cups best revenge killers.
  11. iss

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    Gen V is here. This thread is irrelevant. Don't necro this.
  12. DarthChocoboz

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    are snover and hippopotas still legal in LC?

    Edit oops sorry
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    Does it have an evolution?

    Why yes, it does

    Is it on the Uber list?

    Why no, it isn't

    Is it banned?

    Nah.
  14. unionsport

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    really nice post…Thanks for share…
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    Arbok is not in little cup i think it is.......

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