Andy Snype
Mr. Music
I'd also like to say Alch has extremely good credentials to lead, given the fact that he has a moderator badge. It's obvious that he knows what he's doing and the community has already recognized him.
Very well. I'll send you my Role PM as soon as D1 begins.That's an awfully crappy defense.
"You're a terrible liar." Badal would laugh at you for that defense. Not even he would say that. Instead he would send in his mafia role PM.
You're on trial now. Prove to everyone here that you're not a RAG.
Also, I find it funny that you say I'm the retard when there's been evidence that you're the retarded person. auramaster and dukefan5 can attest to this.
Inspector, exercise extreme caution please. I would be extremely wary of anyone who both requests to be inspected AND claims a non-role who wants to lead. Yes, I am aware I led a game as a twin in Redwall, but the difference there was that I had a role in addition to being a twin. Here, Alchemator has to prove absolutely nothing, has a fairly non-standard role (twins are not in a majority of Beginner games), and is ordering our inspector around. And let's assume that Alchemator is village and the inspector does what he wants...how does that help us? The mafias may well have a safeguard ability to block it!Hi! I'm from the village, part of a pair. I'll be claiming in the morning and leading us.
In the mean-time, try not to get too spooked.
E:<GeneralSpoon> the inspector could be a moron who needs
<GeneralSpoon> it to be spelled out
Inspector, I'd like you to check me tonight please.
If you villagers would like to believe what is quite clearly a smear campaign against me, then go ahead. For those of you who aren't idiots and/or don't want to be muscled around by UncleSam's rhetoric, you'll stick with me as your leader.UncleSam said:Either Alchemator is not thinking at all and is village (possible, but he is better than that) or he is trying to sabotage our inspections. Neither of those seems like a good trait for a village leader.
The mafia doesn't pull an extra kill out of the hat when <person x> dies. I'm quite confident that my allegiance will remain with the village.By a "common feature of the twin role" Alchemator means that he gains kills should his twin die...an easily faked role for a mafia, no? Additionally, on occasion when a twin dies the other one turns into a wolf, not a village vigilante.
I am perfectly aware that the inspector inspecting me is not the best situation, but I'm here for the long-haul.UncleSam said:Neither of those is a good situation for the village. I, however, am claiming literally the most bog-standard role that is on every single village, providing proof of my claim, and pointing out why what Alchemator is suggesting is harmful to the village.
I believe I have here? Additionally, it's simply crowded with damning statements.UncleSam said:Alchemator, if it is a "smear campaign", why not actually answer my points rather than just label it?
Revealing himself would be worse. And why am I evasive? Because you're immediately accusing me of being a mafia, based on absolutely no evidence and hoping that mere words will win you followers.UncleSam said:Why are you so evasive with regards to why you are telling the inspector to do the very last thing we want him to do: broadcast who he is checking to the mafia?
Responses in bold.The mafia doesn't pull an extra kill out of the hat when <person x> dies. I'm quite confident that my allegiance will remain with the village.
True, but you could always claim you hooked a mafia kill or something. Either way, killer leading isn't a good idea, did that occur to you?
I am perfectly aware that the inspector inspecting me is not the best situation, but I'm here for the long-haul.
If it isn't the best situation, why did you suggest it? And what does your being "here for the long haul" have to do with anything? Seriously, you just post non-sequiturs and hope people will believe you!
I believe I have here? Additionally, it's simply crowded with damning statements.
No you haven't. You haven't explained why you asked the inspector to do the worst possible thing he could do other than admit it "isn't the best situation", you haven't explained why you are trying to lead with a role that is far from standard and that may turn into a wolf (though I am happy you say you are "confident you won't", that makes me feel much better about it thanks), and you haven't explained why anyone should trust you whatsoever, you haven't even given your role name! There is no reason to trust you over me, especially after you tried to sabotage our inspector!
Revealing himself would be worse. And why am I evasive? Because you're immediately accusing me of being a mafia, based on absolutely no evidence and hoping that mere words will win you followers.
Yes, and us lynching the inspector would be even worse. How does the fact there are conceivable worse situations for the village to be in make you more trust-able? And generally villagers get very truthful when accused because they know the truth will always come out in the long run, only mafias try to evade questioning as to their actions.
Not to mention that in the accompanying IRC conversation you're having, you continually mention that I "should be better than this". Your arguments won't fly.
You should be better than this. You are an experienced mafia player who suggested the worst thing for the inspector to do, which I can only think you would do because you have some kind of mole role (seriously, why the hell else would be demand to be inspected?) And saying my "arguments won't fly" is just another sensationalist statement backed by no reasoning intended to mislead players new to mafia.
This composes a number of problems. 1, the inspector, whoever he is, will not know what to do. If he's anyone new to Smogon Mafia (yes, ribeye, Smogon Mafia is different from other websites) he or she will most likely blindly follow whoever asked for an inspection first. And that is Alchemator. 2, I know someone who whenever he is being pushed into a theoretical corner, he just says "Whatever" and walks off. In all cases I've experienced, this is a horrible idea, as it leaves everything hanging, and the subject is avoided. Night 0 exists so the Village and Mafia can get themselves in order, and decide what to do. By pushing it of until later, we lose precious time that we could be using to collect claims.Alchemator said:We'll continue this in the morning.
As the ghost left the room, you all cast furtive looks around the room, wondering which of your number will be the next to fall.Hi everyone, just proving my role to UncleSam!