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Mafia From the Depths - GAME OVER, INSANE WIN

Discussion in 'Circus Maximus' started by Blue_Tornado, Feb 13, 2013.

  1. LightWolf

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    1. If I shouldn't look through Eagle's posts at all how do I find who he thought was clean or town?

    2. If Eagle's posts are all lies then wouldn't that mean half of the game is mafia and a couple are mafia and village?

    3. Isn't Buddying p much done towards those the subject sees as "clean" or "town"?

    Poking fun aside, MS you could really benefit from thinking about what you are posting first, because you keep contradicting yourself constantly this day. Perfect example is when you call yourself clear town and perfect scumhunter, but then continue to list yourself as a, I quote:"very crappy, suspicious, and outright weird poster" and "unhelpful".

    Another problem is, I can tell you are joking, but it's becoming hard to tell which parts are serious and which are jokes. If you are a mafia, your mates must be bald by now.
  2. Walrein

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    @Metal Sonic: I didn't vote Eagle4 because I thought shinyskarmory was more suspicious a the time. Eagle's attempt to shove the lynch onto SS leads me to believe now that SS is village.

    Also, did anyone else notice that MS only started aggressively attacking me after I raised a legitimate point against him?
  3. More Cowbell

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    All I've noticed about Metal Sonic is that most, if not all of his posts are full of self-praise and attacks on others.

    Really, Metal Sonic is either a villager who really doesn't care (why wait posting until the third day?), or a mafia player pretending to be so terrible that others won't believe he is mafia (because why draw all the attention to you this way?). MS's posts are still all over the place; some don't go beyond ''hurr hurr Metal Sonic #1 scumhunter'', while others appear to have some thought behind them. It's almost like someone with some sort of schizophrenia.
  4. askaninjask

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    1) I already directly responded to that post, so
    2) you're an idiot. Read my posts before accusing me of ignoring you.

    I stopped pressuring you on Day 2 for two reasons. First, you finally addressed my main concern with you from Day 1, which was that you said zero contentious things. Once we pressured you, you finally spoke up and said that Walrein was suspicious to you. You initiated this fight, which I liked. Second, I was worried about mafia involvement in your lynch. People quickly began to support the lynch and there were very few dissenters. zorbees began quoting me verbatim and I became paranoid about that.

    However, looking back on that, I realize I should have pressed a little bit harder. During your lynch, there were a bunch of people saying "WELL I THINK SPIFFY IS BAD BUT I WILL INSTEAD FOR FOR SOMEONE ELSE". In comparison, the Cypher lynch was pretty immediate. Additionally, it's easy to call someone out after you have been pretty much explicitly told to call someone out, and you are a capable enough player to adapt your playstyle to whatever it needs to be in order to stay alive. Obviously, these two points alone are not arguments themselves, but when taken together, along with your day 1, you remain one of the most suspicious players in the game, in my eyes.

    My previous post was not a "change of heart". I don't believe that just because people are arguing on my side, that they're necessarily clean, and if someone makes a post that I don't like, I'm going to tell them.

    Spiffy, your Day 1 was atrocious, you escaped a ton of attention on Day 2, with some players deflecting attention from you by voting some random other user, and now you're pushing this Walrein lynch really hard, so forgive me for not jumping onto this wagon. For now, for the reasons listed above, Vote Spiffy.

    I would like sentry again too but I understand if we want to give it to shinyskarmory or some other person who was "cleaned" by yesterday's lynch. Sentry askaninjask for now.
  5. Shining_Latios

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    Metal Sonic, we have plenty of time to figure out who is scum, no need to get Walrein lynched yet when we can take advantage of the time left. And to be honest, I don't find a reason to lynch Walrein just either. Sure he has been a bit suspicious, but I don't think it is enough to get a vote from me; at least not at this point. Again, I still want to hear more from Empoof before changing my vote (I believe he will have internet access today). More Cowbell has been really helpful lately and despite the posts I didn't like he made on D1, his D2 ones, as well as his D3 posts so far seem to be contributing and I am getting a town read. Sentry More Cowbell.
  6. Blue_Tornado

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    Votecount 3.3

    Lynch:
    Metal Sonic: (3) Walrein More Cowbell shinyskarmory
    Walrein: (3) Spiffy zorbees Metal Sonic
    Spiffy: (1) askaninjask
    Empoof: (1) Shining Latios
    zorbees: (1) TPM
    Shining Latios: (1) LightWolf
    LightWolf: (0) shinyskarmory
    Not Voting: (1) Empoof

    Sentry:
    shinyskarmory: (2) LightWolf TPM
    More Cowbell: (1) Shining Latios
    askaninjask: (1) askanjniask
    Spiffy: (1) shinyskarmory
    Metal Sonic: (1) Metal Sonic
    Not Voting: (5) Walrein, Spiffy, More Cowbell, zorbees, Empoof

    With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is in 74 hours, 10:00 PM GMT (midnight GMT+2).

    ~*~

    TPM has been prodded.
  7. More Cowbell

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    I have nothing new to add at this moment, but I just want to say that I will be inactive for the next 15 or so hours, perhaps slightly longer or shorter.
  8. Spiffy

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    Actually, the post you have cited came before the post of mine that I quoted, so no, you didn't respond to my post... I guess you mean you have the same answer? That also doesn't cut it because you didn't answer questions I had in the previous post (i.e How was Walrein NOT avoiding confrontation Day 1?). How rude of you, calling me an idiot when you're in the wrong.

    And considering that I was the deciding vote in the Eagle4/shinyskarmory lynch I don't know how I am your first priority. It's POSSIBLE that the mafia team would bus their teammate, but shinyskarmory would have been lynched without my involvement so why on earth anyone would do that if they were mafia is beyond me.

    I just want to understand why you don't consider Walrein's Day 1 atrocious as well. I would say that I'm starting to suspect you, but you might call me an idiot again. :(

    Metal Sonic why are you discouraging people from going back and making connections with Eagle4 and other players? That is seriously one of the most effective ways at finding mafia. I know I said before that I don't put much weight onto the scum reads of confirmed mafia but I've realized it's a great way to see what relationships they have had with other players. I also really don't like him telling someone HOW to vote; it's not very protown to discourage people from expressing their opinions.

    Either way I can't really see voting for Metal Sonic over Walrein. Obviously that doesn't mean we explore other options.

    My top three scum reads at this time are:
    1.) Walrein - I've explained this multiple times yadayadayada
    2.) askaninjask - For tunnel-visioning me Day 2 with logic that applied to other players as well.
    3.) LightWolf - I don't like how he is voting for Shining Latios and not really giving his opinion on anyone else.

    Honorable Mention goes to Metal Sonic for reasons I explained in this post.

    EMPOOF POST MORE PLEASE.
  9. askaninjask

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    I answered a question you asked that was so similar I mixed up the two. Forgive me.
  10. askaninjask

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    Eagle4 had one more vote than shinyskarmory yesterday. Everyone was the deciding vote. Granted, you were a later Eagle4 voter, but from a mafia perspective, being a late voter on a wagon against a villager is almost a death sentence. That alone does not clean you.

    I apologize for calling you an idiot.

    I still don't see how my logic applied to Walrein or anyone else...

    And yes, I am tunnel-visioning to an extent because I think that is the only reasonable strategy for getting legitimate information out of people. If you want, I could be like Day 1 zorbees and vote for everyone and get no results or reactions. I want to post in a way that demands response. I understand that this would seem like tunnel-visioning, but that's why I've done it.
  11. Walrein

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    sentry shinyskarmory

    Is it odd that Eagle4's actions have transformed my previous mafia vote into my strongest town read? Mafia is a weird game.
  12. zorbees

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    unvote Walrein, vote Empoof

    I witnessed in one of the old NOCs there was a mafia guy that got subbed like 2 or 3 different times and no one wanted to lynch him because "no read on him". I've been pretty suspicious of Empoof for a while. I figure there's a chance he is faking inactivity, and may respond to votes.

    sentry shinyskarmory he's pretty clean
  13. shinyskarmory

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    Empoof's posts aren't really scummy now that I look at them, he's just kind of not...here...

    According to Currently Active Users he's viewing the thread right now, so let's see what he has to say about Day 2 and everything that's happened so far today before we grab our pitchforks.
  14. LightWolf

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    Above mentioned reread of Jalmont and Eagle delayed due to part lazyness part netlessness of the last hour. Expect it tomorrow.
  15. Spiffy

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    Can we NOT sentry shinyskarmory. :/

    (No offense)

    I don't think the mafia will bother killing him given the track record of their previous kills (more experienced players). Do you seriously expect the mafia to go after shinyskarmory when they could go after askaninjask or zorbees (if they are village).
    Good point; I agree with this.

    I also noticed Empoof view the thread earlier and not post anything, so I will Unvote Walrein even though he's mafia and Vote Empoof.
  16. Spiffy

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    Oh and Sentry askaninjask because he finally addressed my post (if vaguely...) and I'd much rather have a bigger name safe from the night kill.

    I think it's a bit shady that Walrein, LightWolf, and TPM haven't realized the pattern in the kills and voted to sentry SS. Aska and many other users are much more threatening villagers to have around for them.
  17. Walrein

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    Spiffy, zorbees also voted to sentry SS, you forgot to include him.

    I don't mind unsentrying and sentrying askaninjask because I still have a solidly town read on him, I just think skarm is basically confirmed clean at this point.
  18. Spiffy

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    Whoops. That goes for zorbees too. I think if the mafia were going to kill him they would have taken the oppurtunity to do so Night 2.
  19. shinyskarmory

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    Now that you guys said the mafia only kills experienced players, of course they're gonna kill me :(

    Nevertheless:

    Unsentry Spiffy
    Sentry askaninjask
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    Spiffy didn't you say earlier in the game that you didn't want to state your town reads because you didn't want the mafia to kill someone who was obviously town? Why should we let them kill obvious town ShinySkarmory?
  21. Spiffy

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    They're not going to kill shinyskarmory or they would have done it last night.
  22. TPM

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    Oh woops looks like I haven't posted in here for 24 hours. I guess I just don't have anything to add. There isn't any lynch vote gaining serious momentum for me to weigh in on, no one has asked anything of me, I don't have any input on the current discussion, and I am 100% satisfied with my vote on zorbees. I kind of want to apologize for my lack of activity this game; it's not because I don't care or don't pay attention, I just really don't have much to say. I guess its more of a personal "playstyle" if anything. If you guys want to see me post more just say so and ask me stuff. I'm just at a general lack of words right now.
  23. Walrein

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    TPM, what are your opinions on:

    Me
    Metal Sonic
    Spiffy
    askaninjask
    ShinySkarmory
  24. TPM

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    Walrein: I find you've been acting sort of suspect throughout the game; I've never gotten a huge town vibe on you. However with the way the Eagle lynch played out I have a heightened trust in you. But you're still on my "watchlist" so to speak.
    Metal Sonic: Too retarded to read. (I am being 100% serious)
    Spiffy: I was suspicious of him Day 1 but his Day 2 seemed pretty pro-town to me. That could just be him adapting to the scenario, but he hasn't pulled anything particularly scummy. Aska called him out on pressuring a Walrein lynch pretty hard, but I don't blame him; walrein is definitely a pretty suspicious character.
    askaninjask: I still have trouble getting a read on him. I don't feel he is particularly scummy himself, but at the same time I feel like his attitude towards certain players makes him seem scummier. Particularly I feel he is subtly teaming up with Walrein, in a not-necessarily town fashion, and if Walrein were to flip scum I would likely be much more suspicious of Aska.
    ShinySkarmory: Pretty much confirmed town at this point. I want him to contribute as much as possible before he ultimately gets murdered by the mafia.

    I think how today's target flips will dramatically effect how I feel about many players in this game.
  25. Metal Sonic

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    Empoof hasnt posted anything yet even though its 20+ hours since his last post D:

    Sentry askaninjask

    Fair enough. I will press lesser on Walrein lynch. But I need people to pressure him; with both of us at only 3 votes it is impossible to get any reads.






    Shinyskarmory please stop asking annoying questions...

    1. Eagle could be bussing you too, who knows?
    2. Walrein also makes bad summaries which everyone agrees are mostly fluff
    3.I HAVENT SEEN YOU MAKE A GOOD POST JESUS
    4. Oh, I don't need Walrein lynched. I need him at L-2 or L-1 so he will actually speak some sense. And we can see if he's scum or town like the way we did with Spiffy and Eagle.


    Jalmont isn't always right., but his reads are honest. There is a difference. He genuinely believes his posts help the town and are good for the town. It may not be right, but it is always for the best interests for the town.

    Eagle4's reads are dishonest, and are placed with lies. You will not be able to tell(esp with your lack of skill) which is true, which is false, and which is false but looks pretty true, and which is true but looks pretty false. So if u suck pls dont read ty




    The discussion rate has declined, last time I'd get 2 or 3 pages in a da, now there's only 1... :(

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