It's not that different than Mega Blastoise or Mega Heracross. It's also still weak to Stealth Rock and two other common types.
Right now we are discussing which megae should be nerfedHmmmm. I wasn't aware of the changes that happened. Yet I'm surprised that someone actually put a much more balanced Mega Cinccino on this thread, probably after learning of my infamous set that won many months ago. But still, I find her new one good. Though Icicle Crash Mega Mantine? I find that move questionable in a few ways besides the multi hit perspective. I just checked Showdown. And the Tier ain't established yet. So, what's left to discuss here? Buffs and nerfs?
It is actually rather difficult to break Phione; consider Mega Glalie, who has the exact same base stats but went offensive rather than defensive. Slack Off and Unaware is a rather potent combination, but outside of that what else is really distinguishing it from other bulky Megas?Okay, I kinda expected a bigger response. Don't bother writing a lengthy paragraph as long as you have solid, concise justification.
Weezing should not acquire Slack Off, so hopefully we can change that.
Victini reaches absurd power and speed, and it also gains Calm Mind. Neither of those things should happen to anything with a movepool like his.
Phione gets both Slack Off and Unaware, a devastating combination with 80/125/125 bulk and a pure Water typing. Could be balanced, but it at least deserves a mention here.
Illumise has Bulk Up+Ignate+Extreme Speed. Probably balanced with a mediocre stat spread and awful Bug/Fire typing, but it reaches absurd priority power after a few boosts.
Celebi shouldn't have that kind of speed with that kind of power. Very similar to Victini here. Gardener could very well be the issue, but it's just so goddamn flavorful.
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Where doing OP Megas not UP MegasArcanine should not get Baton Pass. It doesn't need 4 move additions and Baton Pass is the least necessary of them. Not much reason to keep it.
Armaldo seems a bit underwhelming with its poor typing, low Speed, and weakness to Stealth Rock and burn.
Avalugg's typing is pretty bad for it and Sturdy is a really bad for a Spinner like it.
Blissey's physical bulk makes it a bit overwhelming as a wall. 60 Defense doesn't seem like much, but with 255 HP, it extremely bulky especially with 145 SpD on the side. For example, using a spread of 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Calm:
252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Blissey: 196-231 (27.4 - 32.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 Atk Mega Garchomp Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Blissey: 259-306 (36.2 - 42.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Tough Claws Metagross Meteor Mash vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Blissey: 252-297 (35.2 - 41.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+1 252 Atk Tyranitar Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Blissey: 270-318 (37.8 - 44.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after sandstorm damage
+1 252+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Blissey: 307-363 (42.9 - 50.8%) -- 3.1% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Mewtwo Y Psystrike vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Blissey: 238-282 (33.3 - 39.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
I mean, this is kind of insane and requires you to have a Fighting type ready or a Swords Dance user. It's not even passive or Taunt-bait because of that 115 base SpA.
Crawdaunt doesn't seem bulky enough to survive in the metagame. I'm honestly not too sure about it, but it needs to be looked into.
Cresselia might also be too bulky like Blissey, but at least it's typing isn't that great.
More to come hopefully.
EDIT: When I created Mega Raichu, I suggested to remove its Fairy typing if it became overpowered (but keep Pixilate). I still believe that this would be the best solution, as it keeps its niche without becoming overpowered.
Shit your right (Although its actually a gen V event), yeah now I am not sure what to doI don't really see how we could remove e-speed since it gets it through gen4 event
This, we should probably save Amoongus for the next slate just so we could keep a fair first come first serve style for these thingsI think you forgot Snorlax.