RU Mesprit

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Overview
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Mesprit serves two distinct roles on hyper offensive teams: the first is to set up Stealth Rock, and the second is to keep the opposing team from removing them, both of which it does very well. With access to STAB Psychic and a good coverage move in Ice Beam, Mesprit has the capability to KO, or at worst, pressure every relevant Defog and Rapid Spin user in the RU tier. This is further complimented by Mesprit's solid offenses, which allow it to carry its weight on these very same teams outside of beating entry hazard removers. In addition, Mesprit has access to the coveted Healing Wish and is quite possibly one of the only good users of the move in RU. Outside of these roles, however, Mesprit is strictly outclassed by other Psychic-types, which makes it rather predictable. Furthermore, Mesprit only functions under certain builds, thus making it difficult to fit on less offensive teams and limiting its presence to very specific archetypes.

Offensive Support
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name: Offensive Support
move 1: Psychic
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Stealth Rock
move 4: Healing Wish
item: Colbur Berry / Life Orb
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Psychic is preferred as the STAB move over Psyshock because it deals much more damage to Taunt Cobalion, which makes it difficult for Cobalion switch in on Mesprit more than once and prevent Mesprit from using support moves. Ice Beam is the coverage move of choice in order to smash Gligar and Shiftry, two prominent Defog users that need to remain subdued for Spikes-stacking teams to function. With both STAB Psychic and Ice Beam in its arsenal, Mesprit makes for a very proficient Stealth Rock user that is able to prevent opposing forms of entry hazard removal. Lastly, Healing Wish adds another form of support to Mesprit's team and can be an incredibly game-changing move mid-game. Hidden Power Ground and Dazzling Gleam, two coverage moves, may be used over Healing Wish to allow Mesprit to pressure Skuntank and Doublade and OHKO the very prominent Pangoro, respectively.

Set Details
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With Life Orb, Mesprit is able to OHKO Hitmontop and Dragalge with Psychic and specially defensive Gligar after Stealth Rock with Ice Beam. Life Orb also gives Mesprit the power to 2HKO support Cobalion with Psychic. On the other hand, Colbur Berry makes it easier for Mesprit to deal with both Shiftry and Hitmonlee, as it has a much easier time tanking their Dark-type attacks and can then KO them in order to prevent them from removing entry hazards from your side of the field. In addition, Colbur Berry allows Mesprit to withstand one hit from Houndoom in dire situations and set up Stealth Rock if need be.

Usage Tips
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Mesprit can be brought in at the start of the match to set up Stealth Rock should you anticipate it receives a good lead matchup, although Mesprit should preferably take the time to set up Stealth Rock by forcing out Pokemon such as Dragalge or on passive walls. Do try to preserve Mesprit even after it sets up Stealth Rock, as its mid-game utility in Healing Wish can be game-changing. If Mesprit is up against a Defog or a Rapid Spin user, then it should use Ice Beam or Psychic to KO the foe; if neither attack can bring down the foe, then Healing Wish can prevent the use of Rapid Spin or Defog for one turn, though this should only be used as a last resort.

Team Options
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Mesprit functions very well with Spikes-stackers due to its ability to provide Stealth Rock support and prevent the removal of entry hazards. Of the viable Spikes-stackers, Qwilfish and Accelgor make for good partners, as they are the two most proficient Spikes users in RU. Due to the nature of teams Mesprit works on, Pokemon that can spinblock make for good partners; Doublade and Spiritomb in particular can deal with the boosting Psychic-types that can set up on Mesprit. Mega Glalie also makes for a good partner, as it too can provide Spikes support and appreciates Healing Wish support due to the way it plays when it uses Double-Edge. Other Pokemon that appreciate Healing Wish support due to how recklessly they play or how easily they get worn down include Swords Dance Pangoro, Swords Dance Mega Sceptile, Mega Abomasnow, and Escavalier.

Other Options
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A Choice Scarf set with three attacks and Healing Wish is viable, although Mesprit has difficulty revenge killing many offensive threats and is very easy to exploit when locked into a STAB or a weak coverage move. Shadow Ball can be used to smash Doublade and deal a considerable amount of damage to Bronzong and other Psychic-types. Thunderbolt is also a viable option, as it has superb coverage alongside Psychic; however, unlike Ice Beam, Thunderbolt can't KO very many Defog and Rapid Spin users. Energy Ball is an option to OHKO Kabutops, Quagsire, and Rhyperior and makes for quite the good lure. Similarly, Hidden Power Fire can lure Escavalier, and finally, Knock Off can make Mesprit more useful against stall outside of setting up Stealth Rock.

Checks & Counters
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**Kabutops and Skuntank**: Assault Vest Kabutops and Skuntank are the only two entry hazard removers that don't mind taking either a Psychic or an Ice Beam and can consistently keep Stealth Rock off the field.

**Houndoom and Durant**: Houndoom is immune to Psychic, resists Ice Beam, and is faster than Mesprit, making it one of the only Pokemon that can completely prevent Mesprit from setting up Stealth Rock, especially if it carries Taunt. Durant is also one of the few Pokemon that can outspeed and KO Mesprit from the get-go.
 
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yeah, this looks fine, mesprit is sick rn

i'd mention shiftry alongside gligar when mentioning ib's primary application for obvious reasons. i assume you would in write-up, but just verifying it here. i'd toss a brief mention of hp ground > healing wish in moves, actually, as it catches all of 'tops / skuntank / doublade / doom rather nicely (mostly valid w/lo, otherwise it's piss-weak), though the utility of hw is much nicer overall. mentioning other 'mons that love hw support for being able to play aggressively into defensive 'mons with that safety net backing them also may be nice here (sd panda, m-sceptile, etc.), since team options is somewhat thin atm.

anywho, this is covered nicely, and doesn't try to sell off outclassed sets, so that's rad
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This mon is a beast on specific set ups and it's covered pretty well. Would like the opinion of other qc members right here, but i think that dazzling gleam should get a bigger mention (not "slash" big, but moves at least), just because it punishes pangoro, which is too good to ignore. dunno, up to discussion really.

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Mention needing stealth rock/prior damage to OHKO Dragalge with LO Psychic (psyshock 100% OHKOs all the time). mention that lacking LO will prevent it from KOing Dragalge.

252 SpA Life Orb Mesprit Psychic vs. 200 HP / 0 SpD Dragalge: 276-328 (85.9 - 102.1%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Mesprit Psychic vs. 200 HP / 0 SpD Dragalge: 212-252 (66 - 78.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery

Perhaps mention Quagsire as a target energy ball OHKOs in OO? I know Psychic probably does plenty already but its nice too

good job otherwise

qc approved 3/3
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Overview
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Mesprit serves two very specific roles on hyper offensive teams: the first is to set up Stealth Rock, (AC) and the second is to keep the opposing team from removing them, both of which it does very well. With access to STAB Psychic and a good coverage move in Ice Beam, Mesprit has the capability to KO or, (AC) at worst, pressure every relevant Defog and Rapid Spin user in the RU tier. This is further complimented by Mesprit's solid offenses, which allows it to carry its weight on these very same teams outside of beating entry hazard removers the previously mentioned threats. In addition, Mesprit has access to the coveted Healing Wish, (RC) and is quite possibly one of the only good users of the move in RU. Outside of these roles, however, Mesprit is strictly outclassed by other Psychic-types, which makes it rather predictable. Furthermore, Mesprit isn't a very splashable Pokemon by any means, thus making it difficult to fit on less offensive teams and, thereby limiting its presence to very specific archetypes.

Offensive Support
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name: Offensive Support
move 1: Psychic
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Stealth Rock
move 4: Healing Wish
item: Life Orb / Colbur Berry
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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STAB Psychic is used over ___ (You are using a comparison, so there has to be something to compare to.) because it deals much more damage to Taunt Cobalion, which makes it difficult for Cobalion to come in on switch into Mesprit more than once and deny it the use of its support moves more than once. Ice Beam is the preferred coverage move of choice in order to smash Gligar and Shiftry, two prominent Defog users that need to remain subdued for Spikes-stacking teams to function. With both STAB Psychic and Ice Beam in its arsenal, Mesprit makes for a very proficient Stealth Rock user that is able to prevent many forms of opposing (there are only two lol) entry hazard removal. Lastly, Healing Wish adds another form of support to Mesprit's team and can be an incredibly game-changing move mid-game. Two coverage moves, Hidden Power Ground and Dazzling Gleam, two coverage moves, (AC) may be used over Healing Wish to allow by allowing Mesprit to pressure Skuntank and Doublade and one-shot OHKO the very prominent Pangoro, respectively.

Set Details
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With Life Orb, Mesprit is able to OHKO Hitmontop and Dragalge with Psychic and specially defensive Gligar with Ice Beam, all after Stealth Rock damage with Psychic and Ice Beam, respectively. In addition, Life Orb also gives Mesprit the power to 2HKO support Cobalion with Psychic. On the other hand, Colbur Berry makes it easier for Mesprit to deal with both Shiftry and Hitmonlee, as it has a much easier time tanking their Dark-type attacks and can then KO them in order to prevent them from removing Stealth Rock and/or other entry hazards from your side of the field. Colbur Berry also allows Mesprit to withstand one hit from Houndoom in dire situations and set up Stealth Rock if need be.

Usage Tips
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Mesprit can be brought in at the start of the match to set up Stealth Rock should you anticipate it receives a good lead matchup, although it is prefered the Mesprit should preferably takes the time to set up Stealth Rock by forcing out the likes of Dragalge or setting up on passive walls. Do try to preserve Mesprit even after it sets up Stealth Rock, as its mid-game utility in Healing Wish can be game-(add hyphen)changing thanks to Healing Wish. Should If Mesprit is be (Avoiding repetition of "should.") up against a Defog or Rapid Spin user, then it should use Ice Beam or Psychic to KO the foe those Pokemon in question,; (SC) if neither attack can bring down the foe threat in question, then Healing Wish can prevent the use of Rapid Spin and/or Defog for one turn, though this should only be used as a last resort.

Team Options
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Mesprit functions very well with Spikes-stackers due to its ability to provide Stealth Rock support and prevent the removal of entry hazards. Of the viable Spikes-stackers, Qwilfish and Accelgor make for good partners, (AC) as they are the two most proficient Spikes users in RU. Due to the nature of the type of teams Mesprit works on, Pokemon that can spinblock make for good partners,; (SC) Doublade and Spiritomb in particular can deal with boosting Psychic-types that can set up on Mesprit. Mega Glalie also makes for a good partner, (AC) as it too can provide Spikes support and appreciates Healing Wish support due to the way it plays when it uses Double-Edge. Other Pokemon that appareciate Healing Wish support due to how recklessly they play or how easily they get worn down include Swords Dance Pangoro, Swords Dance Mega Sceptile, Mega Abomasnow, and Escavalier.

Other Options
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A Choice Scarf set with three attacks and Healing Wish is viable, although Mesprit has difficulty revenge-(remove hyphen)killing many offensive threats and is very easy to exploit. Shadow Ball can be used to smash Doublade and deal a considerable amount of damage to Bronzong and other Psychic-types. Thunderbolt is also a viable option, (AC) as it gets has superb coverage alongside with Psychic; however, unlike Ice Beam, the move Thunderbolt can't KO very many Defog and Rapid Spin users. Energy Ball is an option to OHKO Kabutops, Quagsire, and Rhyperior, (RC) and makes for quite the good lure. Similarly, Hidden Power Fire can lure out Escavalier, and finally, Knock Off can make Mesprit more useful against stall outside of setting up Stealth Rock.

Checks & Counters
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**Kabutops and Skuntank**: Assault Vest Kabutops and Skuntank are the only two entry hazard removers that don't mind either a Psychic or an Ice Beam and can consistently keep Stealth Rock off the field.

**Bulky Setup Sweepers**: Exploiting Mesprit as it sets up is a good way to discourage it from doing so (or do you mean that "Pokemon that can exploit Mesprit as it sets up can easily find opportunities to set up themselves..."? If so, rephrase it to that or something similar.) setting up itself,; (SC) of these the Pokemon that can do this, Cresselia, Meloetta, Doublade, and Reuniclus, (RC) have no difficulty getting multiple Calm Mind or Swords Dance boosts against Mesprit.

**Houndoom**: Houndoom is immune to Psychic, resists Ice Beam, and is faster than Mesprit, making it one of the only Pokemon that can completely prevent it Mesprit from getting Stealth Rock up at all, especially if it carries Taunt.
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Edit: damnit weebl, why not just cut out that "over", 'sorry sir it interfere with the grammatical feng shui, very very important'. Now it's like a 50/50 of going in and i hate that shit

Double edit: that reminds me: am i the only one who gets repetitive vibes from mid-game and game-changing bwing close together? Kinda bothered me (tbh i kinda wanted to cut that specificity anyhow, healing wish kicks ass lategame too, assuming mesprit is alive and can get it off, though tbf neither of those is guaranteed.

O well

Comments:

Is 'splashable' a term we can really use and expect average joe to understand? Cause, i dont think so.

Really not a big fan of the Psychic over Psyshock thing, espc. as it is unslashed and unmentioned anywhere. You could say it hits Coballyon on its much weaker defense, as a subtler way of explaining why to not use Psyshock.

On that note, a:where IS psyshock? Is it not even OO worthy? B:having a better lead matchup w/cohal is cool, not that you mention it, but if it's gotta switch in then you could've already used SR or HW, so...meh.

Tomb also takes on dou. Maybe pang and drap+skun if phys d, but i doubt that's the tomber you pair with mesprit

Skuntank can pursuit you.

I really dislike the overspecificity of colbur's reasoning. Maybe you came in on shiftry's fog, get suckered and KO back?

Houndoom:dislikes colbur, note it

Overview
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Mesprit serves two distinct roles on hyper offensive teams:;(colon to semicolon) the first is to set up Stealth Rock, and the second is to keep the opposing team from removing them, both of which it does very well. With access to STAB Psychic and a good coverage move in Ice Beam, Mesprit has the capability to KO, or at worst, pressure, (ac)every relevant Defog and Rapid Spin user in the RarelyUsed tier. This is further compliemented by Mesprit's solid offenses, which allow it to carry its weight on these very same teams outside of beating entry hazard removers. In addition, Mesprit has access to the coveted Healing Wish and is quite possibly one of the only good users of the move in RU. Outside of these roles, however, Mesprit is strictly outclassed by other Psychic-types, which makes it rather predictable. Furthermore, Mesprit isn't a very splashable Pokemon by any means, thus making it difficult to fit on less offensive teams and limiting its presence to very specific archetypes.

Offensive Support
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name: Offensive Support
move 1: Psychic
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Stealth Rock
move 4: Healing Wish
item: Life Orb / Colbur Berry
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Psychic is preferred as the STAB move over Psyshock because it deals much more damage to Taunt Cobalion, which makes it difficult for Cobalion to switch in on Mesprit more than once and deny it usage of its support moves. Ice Beam is the coverage move of choice in order to smash Gligar and Shiftry, two prominent Defog users that need to remain subdued for Spikes-stacking teams to function. With both STAB Psychic and Ice Beam in its arsenal, Mesprit makes for a very proficient Stealth Rock user that is able to prevent opposing forms of entry hazard removal. Lastly, Healing Wish adds another form of support to Mesprit's team and can be an incredibly game-changing move mid-game. Hidden Power Ground and Dazzling Gleam, (rc) two coverage moves, (rc) may be used over Healing Wish to allow Mesprit to pressure Skuntank and Doublade and OHKO the very prominent Pangoro, respectively.

Set Details
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With Life Orb, Mesprit is able to OHKO Hitmontop and Dragalge and 2HKO support Cobalion with Psychic,(ac)
and specially defensive Gligar after Stealth Rock with Ice Beam. Life Orb also gives Mesprit the power to 2HKO support Cobalion with Psychic. while OHKOing specially defensive Gligar after Stealth Rock with Ice Beam. On the other hand, Colbur Berry makes it easier for Mesprit to deal with both Shiftry and Hitmonlee, as it has a much easier time tanking their Dark-type attacks and can then KO them in order to prevent them from removing entry hazards from your side of the field. In addition, Colbur Berry allows Mesprit to withstand one hit from Houndoom in dire situations and set up Stealth Rock if need be.

Usage Tips
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Mesprit can be brought in at the start of the match to set up Stealth Rock should you anticipate it receives receiving a good lead matchup, although Mesprit should preferably take find the time to set up Stealth Rock by forcing out the likes of Dragalge or by taking advantage of on passive walls. Do try to preserve Mesprit even after it sets up Stealth Rock, as its mid-game utility in Healing Wish can be game-changing. If Mesprit is up against a Defog or a Rapid Spin user, then it should use Ice Beam or Psychic to KO the foe; if neither attack can bring down the foe them down, then Healing Wish can prevent the use of Rapid Spin or Defog for one turn, though this should only be used as a last resort.

Team Options
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Mesprit functions very well with Spikes-stackers due to its ability to provide Stealth Rock support and prevent the removal of entry hazards. Of the viable Spikes-stackers, Qwilfish and Accelgor make for good partners, as they are the two most proficient Spikes users in RU. Due to the nature of the teams Mesprit works on, Pokemon that can spinblock make for good partners; Doublade and Spiritomb in particular can do so and deal with boosting Psychic-types that can set up on Mesprit. Mega Glalie also makes for a good partner, as it too can provide Spikes support and appreciates Healing Wish support due to the way it plays when it uses Double-Edge. Other Pokemon that appreciate Healing Wish support due to how recklessly they play or how easily they get worn down include Swords Dance Pangoro, Swords Dance Mega Sceptile, Mega Abomasnow, and Escavalier.

Other Options
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A Choice Scarf set with three attacks and Healing Wish is viable, although Mesprit has difficulty revenge killing many offensive threats and is very easy to exploit when locked into a STAB or a weak coverage move. Shadow Ball can be used to smash Doublade and deal a considerable amount of damage to Bronzong and other Psychic-types. Thunderbolt is also a viable option, as it has superb coverage alongside Psychic; however, unlike Ice Beam, Thunderbolt can't KO very many Defog and Rapid Spin users. Energy Ball is an option to OHKO Kabutops, Quagsire, and Rhyperior and makes for Mesprit quite the good lure. Similarly, Hidden Power Fire can lure Escavalier, and finally(rc), Knock Off can make Mesprit more useful against stall outside of setting up Stealth Rock.

Checks & Counters
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**Kabutops and Skuntank**: Assault Vest Kabutops and Skuntank are the only two entry hazard removers that don't mind either a Psychic or an Ice Beam and can consistently keep Stealth Rock off the field.

**Houndoom and Durant**: Houndoom is immune to Psychic, resists Ice Beam, and is faster than Mesprit, making it one of the only Pokemon that can completely prevent Mesprit from setting up Stealth Rock, especially if it carries Taunt. Durant is also one of the few Pokemon that can outspeed and KO Mesprit from the get-go.
 
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Yo, I just happened to see this, and after asking Oglemi wth splashable is supposed to mean (he didn't know either), I'm gonna tell you to not use it.

I think it's kinda explanatory as to why I tell you all to not use it.
 
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Overview
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Mesprit serves two distinct roles on hyper offensive teams: the first is to set up Stealth Rock, and the second is to keep the opposing team from removing them, both of which it does very well. With access to STAB Psychic and a good coverage move in Ice Beam, Mesprit has the capability to KO, or at worst, pressure every relevant Defog and Rapid Spin user in the RU tier. This is further complimented by Mesprit's solid offenses, which allow it to carry its weight on these very same teams outside of beating entry hazard removers. In addition, Mesprit has access to the coveted Healing Wish and is quite possibly one of the only good users of the move in RU. Outside of these roles, however, Mesprit is strictly outclassed by other Psychic-types, which makes it rather predictable. Furthermore, Mesprit only functions under certain builds, thus making it difficult to fit on less offensive teams and limiting its presence to very specific archetypes.

Offensive Support
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name: Offensive Support
move 1: Psychic
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Stealth Rock
move 4: Healing Wish
item: Life Orb / Colbur Berry
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Psychic is preferred as the STAB move over Psyshock because it deals much more damage to Taunt Cobalion, which makes it difficult for Cobalion switch in on Mesprit more than once and prevent Mesprit from using deny it of its support moves. Ice Beam is the coverage move of choice in order to smash Gligar and Shiftry, two prominent Defog users that need to remain subdued for Spikes-stacking teams to function. With both STAB Psychic and Ice Beam in its arsenal, Mesprit makes for a very proficient Stealth Rock user that is able to prevent opposing forms of entry hazard removal. Lastly, Healing Wish adds another form of support to Mesprit's team and can be an incredibly game-changing move mid-game. Hidden Power Ground and Dazzling Gleam, two coverage moves, may be used over Healing Wish to allow Mesprit to pressure Skuntank and Doublade and OHKO the very prominent Pangoro, respectively.

Set Details
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With Life Orb, Mesprit is able to OHKO Hitmontop and Dragalge with Psychic and specially defensive Gligar after Stealth Rock with Ice Beam. Life Orb also gives Mesprit the power to 2HKO support Cobalion with Psychic. On the other hand, Colbur Berry makes it easier for Mesprit to deal with both Shiftry and Hitmonlee, as it has a much easier time tanking their Dark-type attacks and can then KO them in order to prevent them from removing entry hazards from your side of the field. In addition, Colbur Berry allows Mesprit to withstand one hit from Houndoom in dire situations and set up Stealth Rock if need be.

Usage Tips
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Mesprit can be brought in at the start of the match to set up Stealth Rock should you anticipate it receives a good lead matchup, although Mesprit should preferably take the time to set up Stealth Rock by forcing out Pokemon such as the likes of Dragalge or on passive walls. Do try to preserve Mesprit even after it sets up Stealth Rock, as its mid-game utility in Healing Wish can be game-changing. If Mesprit is up against a Defog or a Rapid Spin user, then it should use Ice Beam or Psychic to KO the foe; if neither attack can bring down the foe, then Healing Wish can prevent the use of Rapid Spin or Defog for one turn, though this should only be used as a last resort.

Team Options
========

Mesprit functions very well with Spikes-stackers due to its ability to provide Stealth Rock support and prevent the removal of entry hazards. Of the viable Spikes-stackers, Qwilfish and Accelgor make for good partners, as they are the two most proficient Spikes users in RU. Due to the nature of teams Mesprit works on, Pokemon that can spinblock make for good partners; Doublade and Spiritomb in particular can deal with the boosting Psychic-types that can set up on Mesprit. Mega Glalie also makes for a good partner, as it too can provide Spikes support and appreciates Healing Wish support due to the way it plays when it uses Double-Edge. Other Pokemon that appreciate Healing Wish support due to how recklessly they play or how easily they get worn down include Swords Dance Pangoro, Swords Dance Mega Sceptile, Mega Abomasnow, and Escavalier.

Other Options
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A Choice Scarf set with three attacks and Healing Wish is viable, although Mesprit has difficulty revenge killing many offensive threats and is very easy to exploit when locked into a STAB or a weak coverage move. Shadow Ball can be used to smash Doublade and deal a considerable amount of damage to Bronzong and other Psychic-types. Thunderbolt is also a viable option, as it has superb coverage alongside Psychic; however, unlike Ice Beam, Thunderbolt can't KO very many Defog and Rapid Spin users. Energy Ball is an option to OHKO Kabutops, Quagsire, and Rhyperior and makes for quite the good lure. Similarly, Hidden Power Fire can lure Escavalier, and finally, Knock Off can make Mesprit more useful against stall outside of setting up Stealth Rock.

Checks & Counters
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**Kabutops and Skuntank**: Assault Vest Kabutops and Skuntank are the only two entry hazard removers that don't mind taking either a Psychic or an Ice Beam and can consistently keep Stealth Rock off the field.

**Houndoom and Durant**: Houndoom is immune to Psychic, resists Ice Beam, and is faster than Mesprit, making it one of the only Pokemon that can completely prevent Mesprit from setting up Stealth Rock, especially if it carries Taunt. Durant is also one of the few Pokemon that can outspeed and KO Mesprit from the get-go.
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