Suicune has the best defensive stat distribution of any water type. Two thing hold it back from being ubers, that's the lack of recovery and pretty bad ability. In OM i gets the ladder and better stats.
Yeah suicune's a bitch to deal with in most OM because that great bulk, pure water typing, and access to calm mind. Not many electric or grass types break it on the physical side or the special side after a cm boost or two.
That sucks, I was really hoping to battle in the ladder :( Better luck next month.
Yeah, I mean, there's still a couple of days, and it seems like FU isnt stealing all the spotlight anymore, and I think TI voted for it, so if nothing it could win leaders choice. Fingers crossed.
Sorry, double posting cuz I missed this some how.
I'm wondering though- does it grant ANYTHING over groudon? Like, at all?
Barely, and tbh i think Hippowdon outclasses it in any roles it would preform better than Pdon anyways since hippo has reliable recovery and no immunity phasing (besides magic bounce).
Does it even have a wider movepool though? (Specifically support movepool.) groudon's actually got a great movepool, and I doubt rhyperior gets lava plume or Twave.
I'd say Slack Off may just be better than Thunder Wave and Lava Plume, recovery really is great and makes it hard to wear down, and it also gets Yawn if that's your thing. In general Hippowdon usually wants all its slots already, so I don't think it is too "jealous" of Primal Groudon.
I meant rhyperior- hippo I think is actually better than Pdon for a lot of defensive roles. It doesn't have as much offensive presence, but it has better bulk when you take slack off into account
Yeah, but what's it got going for it that Dnite doesn't? Sky Barney gets Espeed, and is basically the superior of the two in that regardI can see Altarianite Salamence being used
Mega Salamence
Type: Dragon/Flying -> Dragon/Fairy
Stats:
HP: 95 -> 95 (duh)
Atk: 135 -> 175
Def: 80 -> 100
SpA: 110 -> 150
SpD: 80 -> 80
Spe: 100 -> 100
The attack and special attack stats become insane!!, the defenses may not be that great, but the Dragon/Fairy type is really good and lacks of a 4x Weakness to Ice Shard
Also, Pure SpA Mega-Mence becomes way more viable, even more viable than Pure SpA Mega-Altaria!!!!!!
Yes, but hippo gets slack off, so, in reality, it doesn't even do that as well
Hmmm, I forgot about E-speed...
Show me a relevant calc that shows an attack that hippo can't survive the 2hko that rhyperior can and I'll believe you. However, given the fact that hippo has recovery (something that is absolutely invaluable in this meta), I'd say that it is defenitwly the superior of the two for defensive roles.
I'm not arguing that it outclasses Hippo as a wall I'm saying it outclasses it as a physical tank(as in a mon that both takes and deals attacks). While it is true that Rhy is physically bulkier I'm not arguing that. Hippo is best suited to investing in Def, SpD, and HP to the point that any other set is sub-par on it, especially when Rhy can hit harder than it. Ergo, if you want to use more than one attack don't use hippo. Pridon is best suited to Atk and Spe or Atk and HP(for more supporting roles) meaning that if you want a hard hitting attacker that can sop up physical attack you should use Rhy not Pridon
It's still not worth it as a tank imo, seeing as you have way lower Special bulk and only marginally higher Physical bulk. Even if you're a physical bulk, the reduced power, speed and special bulk is never worth it, unless it avoids a very specific 2HKO, but I don't think it will with this extremely small difference.
Physical tanks would rather the recovery to begin with, and considering hippowdon still does similar damage as rypherior, I would agree in the notion that hippowdon generally outclasses rypherior with red orb. Also, remember that Hippowdon has phasing, as does pdon, which is good for a bulky tank.
