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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information
- Thread starter mingot
- Start date
I apologize about the Buneary statement. I think Mingot nailed it and I was mistaking the other NPCs in town that aren't visible on screen for the Buneary. For me, it seemed as if the Buneary's movements coincided with my results so I was mistaken.
As for the coin flip, yes, I do that as well. However, you may not always get a result from flips unless you have a larger range of frames displayed. Sometimes I feel safer checking my seed by catching a Pokemon, but you're right, the coin flip is a quicker and easier way to check the seed and delay.
All of that aside, I just hatched an egg with a spread that I can't seem to find anywhere. There is a spread that looks very close to it, but one of the IVs doesn't match. I used the coin flip ap and searched by coin flips and mistakenly thought I landed on my correct delay, but it turns out it wasn't. I suppose I can keep this one as I had to save to check the IVs, but I'm just wondering what happened.
As for the coin flip, yes, I do that as well. However, you may not always get a result from flips unless you have a larger range of frames displayed. Sometimes I feel safer checking my seed by catching a Pokemon, but you're right, the coin flip is a quicker and easier way to check the seed and delay.
All of that aside, I just hatched an egg with a spread that I can't seem to find anywhere. There is a spread that looks very close to it, but one of the IVs doesn't match. I used the coin flip ap and searched by coin flips and mistakenly thought I landed on my correct delay, but it turns out it wasn't. I suppose I can keep this one as I had to save to check the IVs, but I'm just wondering what happened.
Mingot, could you please add the following feature?
Egg PID shiny nature optimal seed finder:
You enter your Trainer ID and SID, the nature you want, shiny/not shiny and the maximum frame. It would then generate results using the "Egg PID DPPt (Normal)" method, starting from a random seed and see if there's any matches for your nature and shiny factor that are <= the maximum frame you chose. If it didn't find any matches, it would decrease/increase/randomize the seed and repeat everything. It'd then store all the matches and sort them like the Egg PID method does now.
This would come in very handy when trying to get a shiny egg with a certain nature. It's exactly what I've been doing to get my eggs. That way you don't have to hope for a seed with good natures, since you can just use the "Seed to time" function and then soft reset to that time.
Egg PID shiny nature optimal seed finder:
You enter your Trainer ID and SID, the nature you want, shiny/not shiny and the maximum frame. It would then generate results using the "Egg PID DPPt (Normal)" method, starting from a random seed and see if there's any matches for your nature and shiny factor that are <= the maximum frame you chose. If it didn't find any matches, it would decrease/increase/randomize the seed and repeat everything. It'd then store all the matches and sort them like the Egg PID method does now.
This would come in very handy when trying to get a shiny egg with a certain nature. It's exactly what I've been doing to get my eggs. That way you don't have to hope for a seed with good natures, since you can just use the "Seed to time" function and then soft reset to that time.
OK, RNG Questions (again).
Frame Calibration Phase (I'm in step 2-4): Can Egg Glitch be utilized? That way, if it has the wrong nature, I'll keep it in the PC and take another egg.
Always in the Frame Calibration Phase (I'm in Step 8): First I hatched the Pokémon with the right nature. Next I reset without saving. Then, I have to set the date two days after my current date. Finally I have to turn on my DS, continue the game, take the egg as quickly as possible and catch a wild Pokemon immediately. Must I catch a Pokemon that lives in the routes nearby? I really want to Fly and catch higher level Pokemon in other routes. I don't have the necessary amount of Rare Candies.
Always in the Frame Calibration Phase (I'm in Step 10): When I hatch the Egg (and since I have to narrow the IVs of the newborn) can I train it by leveling it up?
P.S, I need immediate help.
P.S.S, Sorry if it's a Ditto of my previous post. They told me to ask here, so I did. I ask apologies.
Frame Calibration Phase (I'm in step 2-4): Can Egg Glitch be utilized? That way, if it has the wrong nature, I'll keep it in the PC and take another egg.
Always in the Frame Calibration Phase (I'm in Step 8): First I hatched the Pokémon with the right nature. Next I reset without saving. Then, I have to set the date two days after my current date. Finally I have to turn on my DS, continue the game, take the egg as quickly as possible and catch a wild Pokemon immediately. Must I catch a Pokemon that lives in the routes nearby? I really want to Fly and catch higher level Pokemon in other routes. I don't have the necessary amount of Rare Candies.
Always in the Frame Calibration Phase (I'm in Step 10): When I hatch the Egg (and since I have to narrow the IVs of the newborn) can I train it by leveling it up?
P.S, I need immediate help.
P.S.S, Sorry if it's a Ditto of my previous post. They told me to ask here, so I did. I ask apologies.
This sounds a lot like MinusOne's program. Maybe you should look at it. The download is at the end of the first post and instructions I think somewhere after that.
Califa:
Question 1: Don't know what you're talking about, so maybe someone else can help you here.
2: Yes you can fly there, it doesn't change anything.
3: Yes you can level it up. Obviously you have to keep track for the EVs based on the pokemon you battle.
Thanks a lot, exactly what I was looking for!
LOL! Thanks a lot for answering my questions. I really appreciate the help! ^_^
Lol, I gave you the exact same answers, and then you posted here anyways? You should have trusted me...:(
My apologies if that offended you. I do trust you, but I needed to make sure. If my action was offensive, I really ask forgiveness.
Dark-Ryu
Spammer
I have one question.
I was resetting Mesprit on my Pearl with the following info
Seed: ff170286
Offset: 983
Modest 30/2/31/30/30/30
Hidden Power Fighting 70!
So I'm using method 1 with modest nature and doing 489 journal flips.
The first time i got a wrong Mesprit but I thought that it was my fault (journal flips) but the second time i got the same mesprit =/
Jolly
30/30/30/12/19/5
Offset: 984
What is happening :[?
I was resetting Mesprit on my Pearl with the following info
Seed: ff170286
Offset: 983
Modest 30/2/31/30/30/30
Hidden Power Fighting 70!
So I'm using method 1 with modest nature and doing 489 journal flips.
The first time i got a wrong Mesprit but I thought that it was my fault (journal flips) but the second time i got the same mesprit =/
Jolly
30/30/30/12/19/5
Offset: 984
What is happening :[?
Did you save in front of Mesprit? Once you "speak" to Mesprit, it's nature and IVs are set.I have one question.
I was resetting Mesprit on my Pearl with the following info
Seed: ff170286
Offset: 983
Modest 30/2/31/30/30/30
Hidden Power Fighting 70!
So I'm using method 1 with modest nature and doing 489 journal flips.
The first time i got a wrong Mesprit but I thought that it was my fault (journal flips) but the second time i got the same mesprit =/
Jolly
30/30/30/12/19/5
Offset: 984
What is happening :[?
That was exactly what i was doing :P
Or don't look for a shiny. Non-shinies are easy to find with pretty much perfect IVs. Try Viletung's website for a list of all known good spreads, including their seeds and delays, you can put the seed into Seed-to-Time in RNG reporter to get your target time.
Dark-Ryu
Spammer
No I don't I guess that my game has one initial frame for default, is that possible?
Btw, i already got the mesprit, but i still want to know what is happening xP
I've been trying to catch a flawless HP Ground Snover in Diamond, but it seems that the coin flips do not match the ones listed in RNG Reporter, not even close. These are just a few results:
These were done on May 29, 2009, at 6:03:14. Removing the cart from the GBA slot also did not change the delay from odd\even; I had to change the year to 2008 to get the seed I was aiming for. (And even then, I couldn't Sweet Scent in the snow, so I missed the right frame.)
Code:
Nature IVs Delay Seconds Reporter Flips Actual Flips
Quiet 5-15-29-5-29-31 686 13 HHHTTHHHTH TTHTTHHTHT
Naïve 14-29-23-1-4-12 684 14 HHHHHHHTTT HHHTHHHTHH
Timid 6-1-2-28-31-6 689 13 TTTHHTHHTT TTTHTTTHTH
Timid 3-0-12-30-26-6 686 14 HTTHHTHHTT TTHHTTHHHH
Hardy 4-23-19-6-20-4 701 14 HHTTTTTTHT HHHHHHHHTTYes you can without advancing it. Coin flipping only affects the IRNG, which is the RNG used for Eggs.
Omega, unless you made a mistake somewhere, I think you may be looking at the method 1 or method J coin order. You should be looking at the Egg PID. I don't know what else but it is probably an error in a number somewhere where the time/date doesn't match from the ds and RNG reporter.
That's why I put down my data in my post. If you look at Egg PID (Normal) for the delays I put down, and compare them to what's in my post, you'll see I was looking at the correct list.
Also I'm very certain the time\date are correct. I used the Seed Finder to pinpoint the delays; if I had the date\time wrong it would have trouble finding the seed.
Note that I'm only having trouble with this on Diamond. I suspect that in Diamond, coin flips advance the IRNG all the same but the coin results are not determined by the ability number.
You wouldn't necessarily have trouble finding your seed because everything else only affects the seconds or delay. The only major thing that if it was wrong that would make it impossible to find would be the hour. So maybe you do, but I think you would make that mistake. I'll look more into it, but I'm busy currently.