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My Second RMT

Discussion in 'BW Other Teams' started by TheBrownHeretik, Mar 29, 2013.

  1. TheBrownHeretik

    TheBrownHeretik

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    Hello, my first RMT didn't really generate any buzz, but I ended up changing my team and this is what I'm currently running.

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    Sableye with Leftovers
    Ability: Prankster
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 252 HP, 120 Defense, 136 Special Defense
    Moveset:
    Taunt
    Confuse Ray
    Will-O-Wisp
    Recover

    Sableye is the most annoying and infuriating Pokemon I've ever encountered, and I finally gave into peer pressure and put her on my team. I generally use Sableye as my opener to immediatly put pressure on my opponent with Taunt (if they're the type of pokemon to set up), or Will-O-Wisp (if they're the type to attack), and I follow up with a Confuse Ray to be a huge nuisance. I know not having an attack move leaves me open as Taunt bait, but I've yet to get taunted by a fellow prankster.

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    Suicune with Leftovers
    Ability: Pressure
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moveset:
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Calm Mind
    Hidden Power (Electric)

    I originally ran Crocune, but it felt ineffective and it sometimes let other Pokemon set up if Sleep Talk screwed me. Suicune is my current special sweeper, and since it's bulky, it can take some punishment as well. Surf is primary STAB damaging move, Ice Beam lets me deal with Grass Pokemon switching in on me, and Hidden Power Electric is for fellow water types trying to stall. I'm still trying to decide whether or not I should keep her on, and I'm considering replacing Suicune with Chandelure.

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    Hitmontop with Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Speed
    Moveset:
    Fake Out
    Rapid Spin
    Mach Punch
    Toxic

    Hitmontop is primarily used to clear entry hazards for a Ninjask set up, but it can also finish low health Pokemon with Fake Out and Mach Punch. Toxic also gives me a good way to inflict status and make sure a sweeper doesn't stay out for too long (assuming it doesn't destroy me in 1 hit). Hitmontop doesn't do anything against ghosts though, so I'm considering switching Fake Out for Sucker Punch,

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    Mienshao with Choice Scarf
    Ability: Regenerator
    Nature: Naive
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moveset:
    U-Turn
    Hi Jump Kick
    Stone Edge
    Hidden Power (Ice)

    Mienshao functions as my revenge killer, and a solid late game sweeper. Her move set is pretty standard (I think). U-Turn lets me scout easily (and lets me get health with regenerator), Hi Jump Kick does absurd damage with STAB and lets me OHKO A LOT of Pokemon, Stone Edge lets me destroy Crobat and Zapdos who are both extremely popular, and finally Hidden Power Ice is pretty much just for Gligar who'd wall me otherwise.

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    Ninjask with Focus Sash
    Ability: Speed Boost
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moveset:
    Swords Dance
    Protect
    Baton Pass
    X-Scissor

    Ninjask can set up some devastating sweeps by passing along attack and speed boosts. Since Ninjask is so frail, Focus Sash allows me to get 1 Swords Dance off for sure (unless I get hit my a multi-hit move), and comboed with Protect gives me +2 speed. X-Scissor makes sure I'm not dead weight if I get taunted, and if I got off a Swords Dance, it usually results in some kills.

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    Scrafty with Lum Berry
    Ability: Moxie
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 HP, 4 Speed
    Moveset:
    Drain Punch
    Ice Punch
    Crunch
    Zen Headbutt

    Scrafty is my primary choice for Baton Pass, and given its natural bulk, it can usually take a hit switching in. Since Scrafty has horrible base speed, I don't bother with Speed EVs, and instead try and make sure that I can survive the switch in. Assuming I have +2 speed and +2 attack, it's pretty much game over for the enemy. I think this moveset gives me solid coverage, and Lum Berry makes sure that a Will-O-Wisp/Confuse Ray isn't going to be the end of me.
  2. PTJon7

    PTJon7

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    I really don't think your team needs Ninjask, for multiple reasons:

    Firstly, Scrafty can set up on its own! It has access to Dragon Dance, which in two turns achieves exactly what you're aiming for with Ninjask.

    Secondly, Ninjask is really predictable. Any player with decent skill will have a way to deal with it, whether its priority attacks/taunt, multi-hit attacks, or phazing there are a lot of ways to deal with Ninjask. More over, Ninjask is completely unable to stop the opponent setting up on it, while youre getting speed boosts and Swords Dances your opponent may be setting up with their own pokemon.

    And finally, Ninjask has a dreadful Stealth Rock weakness. Nothing on your team is remotely weak to Stealth Rocks besides Ninjask, which I think brings it down.​


    All in all, I think your team would benefit much more by losing Ninjask. It should definitely be replaced by a Stealth Rocker, since you lack one. Rhyperior would fit well with this team, it has amazing bulk and power as well as access to good moves:
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    Rhyperior with Leftovers
    Ability: Solid Rock
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP, 16 Attack, 244 Special Defense
    Moveset:
    Earthquake
    Rock Blast
    Dragon Tail
    Stealth Rock


    Your team kind of lacks special attackers, and I think Zapdos would be a good fit for your team:
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    Zapdos with Life Orb
    Ability: Pressure
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 4 HP, 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed
    Moveset:
    Thunderbolt
    Heat Wave
    Hidden Power Grass
    Roost

    Zapdos is an excellent special attacker an can handle a whole lot of the tier. Even though a Stealth Rock weakness can be annoying having access to Roost is always awesome.

    I hope this is helpful to you, and good luck!
  3. BrokenMusicBox

    BrokenMusicBox

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    I agree PTJon7 about Scrafty being able to set up by himself with Dragon Dance. I also question putting Mienshao on your team. You already have two other fighting types, making half your team weak to flying types. I suggest replacing Mienshao with Chandelure with Choice Scarf. Not only does it act as a revenge killer, but can add some coverage to your team.

    Chandelure
    Item: Choice Scarf
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    EVs: 252 SpA/4 SpD/ 252 Spe
    Moveset:
    Fire Blast
    Shadow Ball
    Hidden Power Fighting
    Energy Ball
  4. TheBrownHeretik

    TheBrownHeretik

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    What you said about Ninjask makes sense, and I've replaced it with Rhypherior with good results and given Scrafty DD. Would you recommend switching Hitmontop with Zapdos then?

    Noted, thanks for the advice!
  5. Pikabuster

    Pikabuster

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    I've used scrafty and I've been very disappointed. Despite its high defenses it rarely has the chance to survive boosting to +2 and even at +1, it's outspeeded by CS Hera, Mienshao, Chandy, Crobat etc. which all destroy it (and a bunch of the team) Scrafty also speed ties with Raikou, Azelf, and freaking cincinno, so it can't even set up on that.

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