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Overview
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Ninetales is the best Fire-type in PU, acting as a threatening sweeper with its great Speed and access to the elusive boosting move Nasty Plot. With its great coverage, good power, and above-average Speed, Ninetales is capable of sweeping through teams with ease. However, Ninetales is troubled by common special walls in PU, particularly Lickilicky; is outsped and revenge killed by common Pokemon such as Tauros, Sneasel, Simipour, and Raichu; and is worn down easily due to its low physical bulk and weakness to Stealth Rock.

Nasty Plot
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name: Nasty Plot
move 1: Nasty Plot
move 2: Fire Blast / Flamethrower
move 3: Psyshock
move 4: Energy Ball
ability: Flash Fire
item: Life Orb / Leftovers / Passho Berry
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
========
Nasty Plot lets Ninetales function as a threatening late-game sweeper. Fire Blast is a very strong STAB move that makes up for Ninetales's average Special Attack stat, but Flamethrower is a viable option as well if better accuracy and higher PP are preferred. Psyshock is useful for getting past Pokemon such as Throh and opposing Fire-types, and Energy Ball rounds off Ninetales's coverage by smacking Rock- and Water-types such as Poliwrath, Golem, and Barbaracle.

Set Details
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Life Orb gives Ninetales quite a bit of power in exchange for longevity, while Leftovers does the opposite. Passho Berry lets Ninetales avoid being revenge killed by Aqua Jet users such as Carracosta and Basculin and faster Water-types such as Simipour. The given EV spread is standard for a special attacker, and Flash Fire is helpful for pivoting into other Fire-types and forcing them out.

Usage Tips
========

Set up on something Ninetales forces out, such as Roselia. Thanks to Ninetales's good special bulk, it can switch into special attackers that it has a type advantage against, such as Clefairy and Tangela, quite easily, though it must be wary of Sleep Powder from the latter. If Ninetales can't set up, just spam Fire Blast unless the opponent has a Flash Fire Pokemon, in which case Psyshock is your best option as it 2HKOes every Flash Fire user in PU with Stealth Rock up.


Team Options
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Wallbreakers such as Marowak, Chatot, and Life Orb Tauros can help open holes in the opposing team to let Ninetales sweep more easily. Pokemon that can switch into Water-types and revenge killers are helpful; Poliwrath in particular beats most Water-types and Sneasel. Strong special attackers such as Simipour and Heatmor can help wear down walls such as Lickilicky. Sticky Web support is useful for Ninetales as it prevents Ninetales from being revenge killed by the likes of Sneasel, non-Choice Scarf Tauros, and Simipour.

Other Options
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Ninetales can use Substitute over Psyshock or Energy Ball on the Nasty Plot set, as Ninetales forces a decent number of switches. More defensively oriented sets with Will-O-Wisp and Pain Split are viable, as is a Substitute + Pain Split set.

Checks & Counters
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**Faster Pokemon**: Faster Pokemon such as Sneasel, Tauros, Scyther, and Purugly can outspeed and dispatch of Ninetales even if it has set up, as can Choice Scarf Pokemon such as Mr. Mime, Haunter, and Rotom-F. Aqua Jet users such as Carracosta and Basculin can also revenge kill it, but they fail to do so if Ninetales carries a Passho Berry.

**Special Walls**: Ninetales's great coverage and good power mean that it is difficult to wall. However, Lickilicky and the rare Munchlax can wall even a Ninetales that has set up, and Pokemon such as Pelipper and Bastiodon do a decent job of taking it on before it has set up.

**Residual Damage**: Ninetales's weakness to Stealth Rock, vulnerability to Spikes, and possible Life Orb recoil can wear it down rather quickly. It can also be worn down quite easily by Toxic from Pokemon such as Pelipper.
 
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Team Options:
- List examples of KOs gained by entry hazards
- Remove Sticky Web. Ninetales isn't one of those Pokemon that benefit immensely from SW and isn't a mon I would immediately think of to put on a web team.
- Add some Pokemon that beat its checks and counters. For example you could put Roselia to beat Water-types or Poliwrath to beat Sneasel.
- Mention grounded Poison-types too cos Ninetales hates TSpikes

OO
- Add Sub + NP

Checks and Counters:
- Instead of revenge killers, try "faster Pokemon" because those aren't exactly revenge killers
- Add Camerupt and Bastiodon to special walls

Magnemite looks good, I'll probably stamp if you implement
 
Just a small nitpick, but fire blast hits licki harder than psy. Psy does have a niche for hitting flash fires, mantine, and throh much harder. Also you might want to mention hazard control in TO, life orb + rocks really wares it down (carracosta aqua jet only KO's if 9tales has taken rocks damage).
lampent is the perfect counter
 
not removing webs just yet, not being revenged by stuff like tauros and sneasel lets you actually sweep against offense. even though it's not the most quintessential webs mon, it definitely benefits from it enough to warrant mentioning it. if more qc members want me to remove it i will though.

implemented everything else
 
perhaps a note about how this 6-0s trc theorymon armaldo teams

that aside, mention eball hits waters not just rocks, mention poli somewhere in eball or psyshock

hazards in checks and counters, it's vulnerable to all of them and it's the best way of wearing it down

i think bulky cm wow is worth a set but i haven't completely optimised a spread yet so get on irc :<

qc 2/3
 
As it is hard to find reliable check to this thing, I would mention Thick Fat Munchlax as one. It can take a hit and phaze with Whirlwind or hit Ninetales pretty hard with Earthquake.
 
Get chekt

This explains the best cat sentence i guess

Edit: checks and counters could use Simipour/any other faster waters. Also, is Zweilous worth mentioning?

Read the hide tag (tags, obvsly, but the first is big)
By the way, Smogon GP is trying to stamp out overview introductions that talk about the past and bridge sentences like "However, X is not without its flaws". And although I don't care that much about this policy, notice how the overview goes without them; your lead sentence is:

Ninetales is the best Fire-type in PU, acting as a threatening sweeper with its great Speed and access to the elusive boosting move Nasty Plot.

God DAMN. That's a strong introduction, and it tells me a lot more than the history lesson, especially since Ninetales's past success was based around Drought, which isn't usable in PU. You could combine it to some extent with the second sentence and basically explain 'Tales right there. (Like so)
Ninetales is the best Fire-type in PU, being capable of sweeping through teams with ease due to its above average, great coverage, good power, and access to the elusive boosting move Nasty Plot. (Consider slotting this in too)

Meanwhile, i did edit the however sentence a bit, and it's good that way too, but it COULD look like this:

However, Ninetales is troubled by common special walls in PU, particularly Lickilicky, is outsped and revenge killed by common Pokemon such as Tauros, Sneasel, Simipour, and Raichu, and worn down easily due to its low physical bulk and weakness to Stealth Rock.

A bit long, and it doesn't include the fact that Licki walls it at +2 (which is why i didn't do it), but it combines all the flaws in one sentence, essentially communicating to the reader than Ninetales is definitely not without its flaws.
Comments:

So you use Tangela as an example in usage tips twice; maybe another mon instead?

Checks and counters: where the faster waters at? Also, i moved the scarfers sentence, hope you dont mind :D (if you do, go ahead and keep it how it was)

Overview
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To say that Ninetales has fallen from grace since the days of BW OU is a bit of an understatement. Once the crucial member of one of OU's most threatening team archetypes, Ninetales has since fallen to the depths of PU. However, Ninetales has found a great home for itself in PU. Ninetales is the best Fire-type in PU, acting as a threatening sweeper with its great Speed and access to the elusive boosting move Nasty Plot. With its great coverage, good power, and above average Speed, Ninetales is capable of sweeping through teams with ease. However, that's not to say Ninetales is a flawless Pokemon. It is troubled by common special walls in PU, particularly Lickilicky, which can wall it even at +2. Additionally, Ninetales is outsped and revenge killed by common Pokemon such as Tauros, Sneasel, Simipour, and Raichu, and its low physical bulk and weakness to Stealth Rock make it easily worn down. Despite this, if it is played right, Ninetales is a threatening sweeper that is a huge threat to most PU teams.

Nasty Plot
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name: Nasty Plot
move 1: Nasty Plot
move 2: Fire Blast / Flamethrower
move 3: Psyshock
move 4: Energy Ball
ability: Flash Fire
item: Life Orb / Leftovers / Passho Berry
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
========
Nasty Plot lets Ninetales function as a threatening late-game sweeper. Fire Blast is a very strong STAB move that makes up for Ninetales's below average Special Attack stat, but Flamethrower is a viable option as well if better accuracy and PP are preferred.
Psyshock is useful for getting past Pokemon such as Throh and opposing Fire-types, and Energy Ball rounds off the coverage by smacking Rock- and Water-types such as Poliwrath, Golem, and Barbaracle.

Set Details
========

Life Orb gives quite a bit of power in exchange for longevity, while Leftovers does the opposite. Passho Berry lets Ninetales avoid being revenge killed by Aqua Jet users such as Carracosta and Basculin,(rc) as well as and faster Water-types such as Simipour. The given EV spread is standard.,(period to comma) and Flash Fire is helpful for pivoting into other Fire-Types and forcing them out.

Usage Tips
========

Set up on something you force out, such as Tangela(different example? Tangela is mentioned down there). Thanks to Ninetales's good special bulk, it can switch in on special attackers such as that it has a type advantage against, such as Clefairy and Tangela,(ac) quite easily,(ac) (though it must be wary of Sleep Powder from the latter),(rc) quite easily. If you can't set up, just spam Fire Blast, unless they have the opponent has a Flash Fire user Pokemon, in which case Psyshock is your best option, as it 2HKOes every Flash Fire user Pokemon in PU with Stealth Rock up.


Team Options
========

Wallbreakers such as Marowak, Chatot, and Life Orb Tauros can help open holes in the opposing team to let Ninetales sweep more easily. Pokemon that can switch into Water-types and revenge killers are helpful.;(period to semicolon) Poliwrath in particular beats both most Water-types and Sneasel. Strong special attackers such as Simipour and Heatmor can help wear down walls such as Lickilicky. Sticky Web support is useful for Ninetales, as it prevents it from being revenge killed by the likes of Sneasel, non-Scarf Tauros, and Simipour.

Other Options
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Ninetales can use Substitute over Psyshock or Energy Ball on the Nasty Plot set, as it forces a decent amount of switches. More defensively oriented sets with Will-O-Wisp and Pain Split are viable, as is a Substitute + Pain Split set.

Checks & Counters
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**Faster Pokemon**: Faster Pokemon such as Sneasel, Tauros, Scyther, and Purugly can outspeed and dispatch of Ninetales even if it has set up, as can Choice Scarf Pokemon such as Mr. Mime, Haunter, and Rotom-F. Aqua Jet users such as Carracosta and Basculin can also revenge kill it Ninetales, but they fail to do so if Ninetales carries a Passho Berry. Finally, Choice Scarf Pokemon such as Mr. Mime, Haunter, and Rotom-F can also revenge kill a weakened Ninetales.

**Special walls**: Ninetales's great coverage and good power mean that it is difficult to wall. However, Lickilicky and the rare Munchlax can wall even a set up Ninetales, and Pokemon such as Pelipper and Bastiodon do a decent job of taking it on before it has set up.

**Residual damage**: Ninetales's weakness to Stealth Rock, vulnerability to Spikes, and possible Life Orb recoil can wear it down rather quickly. It can also be worn down quite easily by Toxic from Pokemon such as Pelipper.
 
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Overview
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Ninetales is the best Fire-type in PU, acting as a threatening sweeper with its great Speed and access to the elusive boosting move Nasty Plot. With its great coverage, good power, and above-average Speed, Ninetales is capable of sweeping through teams with ease. However, Ninetales is troubled by common special walls in PU, particularly Lickilicky; (comma to semicolon) is outsped and revenge killed by common Pokemon such as Tauros, Sneasel, Simipour, and Raichu; (comma to semicolon) and is worn down easily due to its low physical bulk and weakness to Stealth Rock. Despite this, if it is played right, Ninetales is a threatening sweeper that is a huge threat to most PU teams. (This says nothing that was already said by "acting as a threatening sweeper" and "capable of sweeping through teams through ease". In general, try to avoid repetitive sentences (especially "despite its flaws,/when played to its strengths, X is still a threat in Y metagame" overview-enders), overview bridges, and excessive focus on the past, like tehy said.)

Nasty Plot
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name: Nasty Plot
move 1: Nasty Plot
move 2: Fire Blast / Flamethrower
move 3: Psyshock
move 4: Energy Ball
ability: Flash Fire
item: Life Orb / Leftovers / Passho Berry
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
========
Nasty Plot lets Ninetales function as a threatening late-game sweeper. Fire Blast is a very strong STAB move that makes up for Ninetales's below-average Special Attack stat, but Flamethrower is a viable option as well if better accuracy and higher PP are preferred. (remove line break) Psyshock is useful for getting past Pokemon such as Throh and opposing Fire-types, and Energy Ball rounds off the Ninetales's coverage by smacking Rock- and Water-types such as Poliwrath, Golem, and Barbaracle.

Set Details
========

Life Orb gives Ninetales quite a bit of power in exchange for longevity, while Leftovers does the opposite. Passho Berry lets Ninetales avoid being revenge killed by Aqua Jet users such as Carracosta and Basculin and faster Water-types such as Simipour. The given EV spread is standard for a special attacker, and Flash Fire is helpful for pivoting into other Fire-types and forcing them out.

Usage Tips
========

Set up on something you Ninetales forces out, such as Roselia. (period) Thanks to Ninetales's good special bulk, it can switch into on special attackers that it has a type advantage against, such as Clefairy and Tangela, quite easily, though it must be wary of Sleep Powder from the latter. If you can't set up, just spam Fire Blast, (remove comma) unless the opponent has a Flash Fire Pokemon, in which case Psyshock is your best option as it 2HKOes every Flash Fire user in PU with Stealth Rock up.


Team Options
========

Wallbreakers such as Marowak, Chatot, and Life Orb Tauros can help open holes in the opposing team to let Ninetales sweep more easily. Pokemon that can switch into Water-types and revenge killers are helpful; Poliwrath in particular beats most Water-types and Sneasel. Strong special attackers such as Simipour and Heatmor can help wear down walls such as Lickilicky. Sticky Web support is useful for Ninetales, (comma) as it prevents it from being revenge killed by the likes of Sneasel, non-Choice Scarf Tauros, and Simipour.

Other Options
########

Ninetales can use Substitute over Psyshock or Energy Ball on the Nasty Plot set, as it forces a decent number amount of switches. More defensively oriented sets with Will-O-Wisp and Pain Split are viable, as is a Substitute + Pain Split set.

Checks & Counters
########

**Faster Pokemon**: Faster Pokemon such as Sneasel, Tauros, Scyther, and Purugly can outspeed and dispatch of Ninetales even if it has set up, as can Choice Scarf Pokemon such as Mr. Mime, Haunter, and Rotom-F. Aqua Jet users such as Carracosta and Basculin can also revenge kill it, but they fail to do so if Ninetales carries a Passho Berry.

**Special Walls**: Ninetales's great coverage and good power mean that it is difficult to wall. However, Lickilicky and the rare Munchlax can wall even a set up Ninetales that has set up, and Pokemon such as Pelipper and Bastiodon do a decent job of taking it on before it has set up.

**Residual Damage**: Ninetales's weakness to Stealth Rock, vulnerability to Spikes, and possible Life Orb recoil can wear it down rather quickly. It can also be worn down quite easily by Toxic from Pokemon such as Pelipper.
 
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Overview
########

Ninetales is the best Fire-type in PU, acting as a threatening sweeper with its great Speed and access to the elusive boosting move Nasty Plot. With its great coverage, good power, and above-average Speed, Ninetales is capable of sweeping through teams with ease. However, Ninetales is troubled by common special walls in PU, particularly Lickilicky; is outsped and revenge killed by common Pokemon such as Tauros, Sneasel, Simipour, and Raichu; and is worn down easily due to its low physical bulk and weakness to Stealth Rock.

Nasty Plot
########
name: Nasty Plot
move 1: Nasty Plot
move 2: Fire Blast / Flamethrower
move 3: Psyshock
move 4: Energy Ball
ability: Flash Fire
item: Life Orb / Leftovers / Passho Berry
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
========
Nasty Plot lets Ninetales function as a threatening late-game sweeper. Fire Blast is a very strong STAB move that makes up for Ninetales's average Special Attack stat, but Flamethrower is a viable option as well if better accuracy and higher PP are preferred. Psyshock is useful for getting past Pokemon such as Throh and opposing Fire-types, and Energy Ball rounds off Ninetales's coverage by smacking Rock- and Water-types such as Poliwrath, Golem, and Barbaracle.

Set Details
========

Life Orb gives Ninetales quite a bit of power in exchange for longevity, while Leftovers does the opposite. Passho Berry lets Ninetales avoid being revenge killed by Aqua Jet users such as Carracosta and Basculin and faster Water-types such as Simipour. The given EV spread is standard for a special attacker, and Flash Fire is helpful for pivoting into other Fire-types and forcing them out.

Usage Tips
========

Set up on something Ninetales forces out, such as Roselia. Thanks to Ninetales's good special bulk, it can switch into special attackers that it has a type advantage against, such as Clefairy and Tangela, quite easily, though it must be wary of Sleep Powder from the latter. If you Ninetales can't set up, just spam Fire Blast unless the opponent has a Flash Fire Pokemon, in which case Psyshock is your best option as it 2HKOes every Flash Fire user in PU with Stealth Rock up.


Team Options
========

Wallbreakers such as Marowak, Chatot, and Life Orb Tauros can help open holes in the opposing team to let Ninetales sweep more easily. Pokemon that can switch into Water-types and revenge killers are helpful; Poliwrath in particular beats most Water-types and Sneasel. Strong special attackers such as Simipour and Heatmor can help wear down walls such as Lickilicky. Sticky Web support is useful for Ninetales as it prevents it Ninetales from being revenge killed by the likes of Sneasel, non-Choice Scarf Tauros, and Simipour.

Other Options
########

Ninetales can use Substitute over Psyshock or Energy Ball on the Nasty Plot set, as it Ninetales forces a decent number of switches. More defensively oriented sets with Will-O-Wisp and Pain Split are viable, as is a Substitute + Pain Split set.

Checks & Counters
########

**Faster Pokemon**: Faster Pokemon such as Sneasel, Tauros, Scyther, and Purugly can outspeed and dispatch of Ninetales even if it has set up, as can Choice Scarf Pokemon such as Mr. Mime, Haunter, and Rotom-F. Aqua Jet users such as Carracosta and Basculin can also revenge kill it, but they fail to do so if Ninetales carries a Passho Berry.

**Special Walls**: Ninetales's great coverage and good power mean that it is difficult to wall. However, Lickilicky and the rare Munchlax can wall even a Ninetales that has set up, and Pokemon such as Pelipper and Bastiodon do a decent job of taking it on before it has set up.

**Residual Damage**: Ninetales's weakness to Stealth Rock, vulnerability to Spikes, and possible Life Orb recoil can wear it down rather quickly. It can also be worn down quite easily by Toxic from Pokemon such as Pelipper.
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