Hi! You're probably reading this wall of text post because I replied to one of your previous posts. This is one massive cluster fuck of my comments, questions, and discussion starters. Feel free to skip to your quote if you don't want to read the whole thing. Or read the whole thing if you're bored and get off on wall posts.
CANCEROUS PART I
Walrien stated his opinions already and I wanted to back his train of thought. He is being observed as much as the rest of you people by me. I just wanted to comment on it and add my own thoughts to his.
PANCAKE
If you are mafia, let us know so that we can vote you out of the game and save you the trouble of wasting posts. However, if you are village, you better get your ass moving on that RMT, because we're going to need you to contribute here...
MARTIN
I think we're getting past the point of asking jumpstart discussion questions, but I'm responding to things that I've missed so I'll do them anyways even if I don't think they'll lead anywhere.
1. My typical village play style in an NOC is just to be honest and forthright with people. I'm not afraid to give my opinions on things or to stick my neck out on the line, and I expect other players to give honest responses back to me that are logical and well thought out. I feel that it is way more difficult for the mafia to try to make up motivation and explain themselves as village and eventually, things will stop making sense. Reasons are that they forget their story, are too lazy to fake interest, are busy overthinking things to being illogical, and making up lies that turn into more lies. It works pretty well I think, but it takes some time. I never played a NOC game as mafia I don't think, but if I did I guess I would try to do the same thing as my village play but try to be more reserved. I guess it would all depend on my role though, and how crucial I was to winning as mafia.
2. Putting the info out on the line best that I can. It really depends on the situation and where the game is at/heading. But I'd let my discoveries be known strongly in one way or another because you can't take a lot with you when you're dead... and by then it's too late.
3. What do you mean by this? How is getting targeted suspicious? Do you mean if I get hit by a hook or something, how do I go about saying that I'm not mafia? I'm not following you.
4. I think that they are a good thing to look back on in retrospect once cards flip and there is information, but I'm not sure how much they really mean in the long run. A lot of people who bandwagon are just lazy ass townies that don't want to put the time into thinking for themselves, digging into the meat of the game, or are afraid of dissenting with others and being put on blast. If you bandwagon, you better provide reasons for why you are voting with someone. I'll press people who I think are voting for non-sense or are bandwagon-ing without content because I find it annoying
MOODYCLOUD
Why do you want to vote for Vanillish Wafer? What did he do/not do that makes him scum? Why did you not give your opinion when you made this post!?!?!?
TEXAS CLOVERLEAF PART I
What makes Lightwolf thinking things are being dumbly and responding cynically point to him being town in your mind? Or are my assumptions wrong and you're going off a completely different thought process?
HARUNO
SHUBAKA
It is still way too early for me to be making assumptions right now on who I think is scum and town. Nothing has happened. As of you asking this question in the thread (I'm responding in order, so if something big happened after you made this post, I'm not including it)
Just going through my notes, Lightwolf, Texas, Acid, Former Hope, Haruno, Fort, Moodycloud, Pancake, Aubsino, Asek, Whydon, Smashlloyd (has he even posted?) Vanillish Wafer, Cancerous, and Blank Slate are notable in not doing much of anything contribution wise in my opinion. It is still early, and contributions are not a true blue sign of being scum, but I want more effort out of them. For those that are town, we need to actually do some shit in the game and not just sit around. Without contributions, I have nothing to base questions or info or reads on to be able to expand on thoughts.
Those that have been trying to contribute in my mind are you, Knights, Blazade, Walrein, and maybe Martin (I don't buy the "im new, halp" thing and asking another series of 4 random questions is pretty ass right now but he is trying I think and not sitting on his ass without content). While activity doesn't lead to being town, I'm way more opposed to lynching someone from this list on Day One because they are providing background to move on into future days and are trying to be at least an asset.
Hope that helps? It just is still a bit too early to make cases on people. But those in the first paragraph need start doing shit and I'd rather lynch someone there than someone I think is trying to contribute.
ASEK
Hey, this is what I'm talking about when I refer to content, posting honestly, and trying to do shit. Why didn't you do this earlier when you were voting for 5,000 people off an on? I expect you to give the info on Walrein being scummy at some point before the say ends though, but I see where you're going with this.
FORMER HOPE
TEXAS CLOVERLEAF PART II
CANCEROUS PART II
What makes a Walrein vote greater than a me vote if you think we were covering for each other? Also, why do you think we're covering for each other? Is it beacuse of that post where I supported his assertion that random questions are a way for people to half ass answers to appear active and that you (and most others) were doing it for solely that purpose?
Walrien stated his opinions already and I wanted to back his train of thought. He is being observed as much as the rest of you people by me. I just wanted to comment on it and add my own thoughts to his.
PANCAKE
If you are mafia, let us know so that we can vote you out of the game and save you the trouble of wasting posts. However, if you are village, you better get your ass moving on that RMT, because we're going to need you to contribute here...
MARTIN
I think we're getting past the point of asking jumpstart discussion questions, but I'm responding to things that I've missed so I'll do them anyways even if I don't think they'll lead anywhere.
1. My typical village play style in an NOC is just to be honest and forthright with people. I'm not afraid to give my opinions on things or to stick my neck out on the line, and I expect other players to give honest responses back to me that are logical and well thought out. I feel that it is way more difficult for the mafia to try to make up motivation and explain themselves as village and eventually, things will stop making sense. Reasons are that they forget their story, are too lazy to fake interest, are busy overthinking things to being illogical, and making up lies that turn into more lies. It works pretty well I think, but it takes some time. I never played a NOC game as mafia I don't think, but if I did I guess I would try to do the same thing as my village play but try to be more reserved. I guess it would all depend on my role though, and how crucial I was to winning as mafia.
2. Putting the info out on the line best that I can. It really depends on the situation and where the game is at/heading. But I'd let my discoveries be known strongly in one way or another because you can't take a lot with you when you're dead... and by then it's too late.
3. What do you mean by this? How is getting targeted suspicious? Do you mean if I get hit by a hook or something, how do I go about saying that I'm not mafia? I'm not following you.
4. I think that they are a good thing to look back on in retrospect once cards flip and there is information, but I'm not sure how much they really mean in the long run. A lot of people who bandwagon are just lazy ass townies that don't want to put the time into thinking for themselves, digging into the meat of the game, or are afraid of dissenting with others and being put on blast. If you bandwagon, you better provide reasons for why you are voting with someone. I'll press people who I think are voting for non-sense or are bandwagon-ing without content because I find it annoying
MOODYCLOUD
Why do you want to vote for Vanillish Wafer? What did he do/not do that makes him scum? Why did you not give your opinion when you made this post!?!?!?
TEXAS CLOVERLEAF PART I
His motivations to me is that he doesn't want to sift through 4 pages of meaningless BS and really doesn't want to sift through 4 more pages of BS to people answering Martin's questions. He does this, yet doesn't try to move the game forward outside of just being his lovable yet cynical self. I guess you could make the argument that mafia lightwolf would want to have the thread be a gigantic clusterfuck, but I'm thinking that he might still be the cynical ol' shit he usually is because that's just his personality.
What makes Lightwolf thinking things are being dumbly and responding cynically point to him being town in your mind? Or are my assumptions wrong and you're going off a completely different thought process?
HARUNO
Why do you want to vote for rssp1? What did he do/not do that makes him scum? Why did you not give your opinion when you made this post!?!?!?
SHUBAKA
It is still way too early for me to be making assumptions right now on who I think is scum and town. Nothing has happened. As of you asking this question in the thread (I'm responding in order, so if something big happened after you made this post, I'm not including it)
Just going through my notes, Lightwolf, Texas, Acid, Former Hope, Haruno, Fort, Moodycloud, Pancake, Aubsino, Asek, Whydon, Smashlloyd (has he even posted?) Vanillish Wafer, Cancerous, and Blank Slate are notable in not doing much of anything contribution wise in my opinion. It is still early, and contributions are not a true blue sign of being scum, but I want more effort out of them. For those that are town, we need to actually do some shit in the game and not just sit around. Without contributions, I have nothing to base questions or info or reads on to be able to expand on thoughts.
Those that have been trying to contribute in my mind are you, Knights, Blazade, Walrein, and maybe Martin (I don't buy the "im new, halp" thing and asking another series of 4 random questions is pretty ass right now but he is trying I think and not sitting on his ass without content). While activity doesn't lead to being town, I'm way more opposed to lynching someone from this list on Day One because they are providing background to move on into future days and are trying to be at least an asset.
Hope that helps? It just is still a bit too early to make cases on people. But those in the first paragraph need start doing shit and I'd rather lynch someone there than someone I think is trying to contribute.
ASEK
Hey, this is what I'm talking about when I refer to content, posting honestly, and trying to do shit. Why didn't you do this earlier when you were voting for 5,000 people off an on? I expect you to give the info on Walrein being scummy at some point before the say ends though, but I see where you're going with this.
FORMER HOPE
When are midterms, and are you actually going to do this? If you have some sort of case on Walrein, the sooner you can bring that up the better. Later might be too late.
TEXAS CLOVERLEAF PART II
The non-explanation lynches and reads spewing out of you are driving me up a a god damn wall that Mexico is going to pay for. Why do you think Walrein is suspicious and why now are you voting for him? Why is this different than all the other votes and assumptions you've given during day 1? Can I have a list of all your reads without content all at once?
CANCEROUS PART II
What makes a Walrein vote greater than a me vote if you think we were covering for each other? Also, why do you think we're covering for each other? Is it beacuse of that post where I supported his assertion that random questions are a way for people to half ass answers to appear active and that you (and most others) were doing it for solely that purpose?
