[on site] Technician Hidden Powers

[Toothache]

One of the more interesting and useful abilities in Diamond and Pearl is Technician. This ability increases the power of all moves with a base power of 60 or less, increasing the damage by an extra 50%. Believe it or not, it also works on moves with variable powers, such as Natural Gift, Magnitude and so on. This includes the move Hidden Power

To this end I created this list for those who wish to use a Hidden Power with Technician, getting a stronger base damage overall than it would normally reach (up to 90 base power after Technician, much stronger than the 70 base maximum normally reached with Hidden Power).

I noticed that when making a Hidden Power of power strength 60, a lot of stats are reduced in order to accommodate a lower strength. In total, four of the six IVs are reduced to make a Power of exactly 60 strength. It would seem that using Technician in this way would not be worth the trade off.

But if the power was reduced to 59, only one of the six IVs are affected. This unfortunately happens to be SpA, and since Hidden Power is based off SpA, it affects the base damage granted ever so slightly. Reducing the power to 59 however has two main advantages over a power of 60:

1) maximum Speed
This is especially important for those who wish to sweep with the Hidden Power. Technician raises the base power effectively to 89, not much different from other common Special-based moves, such as Psychic (90 BP) and Ice Beam (95 BP), and since it's possible to sweep with a 70 BP move after a Nasty Plot or two, this is worth considering.

2) better defenses
While SpD in the case of either 59 strength or 60 strength Hidden Power is not affected, the HP and Def are affected. Using a 59 strength HP allows you to retain both maximum HP and Def for that Hidden Power, giving you an extra edge in survivability. The difference is minimal, but those minimal changes are often crucial.

Also consider that the two main special Technician users - Ambipom and Persian - also have access to Nasty Plot, so lowering the SpA by 2 will be negligible after the SpA is raised.

Just a final thing to note, when doing this research, I also checked what the Hidden Power strength would be if both SpA and Speed were maximised. Unfortunately, this lowers the base power to unusable levels, since it can only reach at best 49 base power. Even with Technician, you'd only get a marginal boost in damage (49 x 1.5 = 74) over the normal base damage of 70.

The IVs for the Hidden Power combinations are listed in this order: HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

For those of you wishing to use a slower speed for purposes of Trick Room, you can subtract 28 from the Speed to get the lowest possible number (so 31 Speed IV would go down to 3 Speed IV and keep the same HP strength, and so on).

HP Fire
59 Power
31/30/31/28/31/30
31/31/30/28/31/30
30/30/31/28/31/30
30/31/30/28/31/30

60 Power
29/28/29/30/31/28
29/29/28/30/31/28
28/28/29/30/31/28
28/29/28/30/31/28

HP Water
59 Power
31/31/31/28/31/30
31/30/30/28/31/31
30/31/31/28/31/30
30/30/30/28/31/31

60 Power
29/29/29/30/31/28
29/28/29/30/31/29
28/29/29/30/31/28
28/28/28/30/31/29

HP Grass
59 Power
31/30/31/28/31/31
31/31/30/28/31/31
30/31/31/28/31/31

60 Power
29/28/29/30/31/29
29/29/28/30/31/29
28/29/29/30/31/29

HP Electric
59 Power
31/31/31/28/31/31
31/30/30/29/31/30
30/31/30/29/31/30

60 Power
29/29/29/30/31/29
29/28/28/31/31/28
28/29/28/31/31/28

HP Ice
59 Power
31/30/30/29/31/31
31/31/31/29/31/30
30/30/30/29/31/31

60 Power
29/28/28/31/31/29
29/29/29/31/31/28
28/28/28/31/31/29

HP Fighting
59 Power
31/31/30/28/30/30
30/30/31/28/30/30
30/31/30/28/30/30

60 Power
29/29/28/30/30/28
28/28/29/30/30/28
28/29/28/30/30/28

HP Poison
59 Power
31/31/30/28/30/31
30/31/30/28/30/31

60 Power
29/29/28/30/30/29
28/29/28/30/30/29

HP Ground
59 Power
31/31/31/28/30/31
30/30/30/29/30/30

60 Power
29/29/29/30/30/29
28/28/28/31/30/28

HP Flying
59 Power
31/31/31/30/30/30
30/30/30/30/30/31

60 Power
29/29/29/30/30/28
28/28/28/30/30/29

HP Psychic
59 Power
31/30/31/29/31/30
31/31/30/29/31/30
30/31/31/29/31/30

60 Power
29/28/29/31/31/28
29/29/28/31/31/28
28/29/29/31/31/28

HP Bug
59 Power
31/31/31/29/30/30
31/30/30/29/30/31
30/31/31/29/30/30
30/30/30/29/30/31

60 Power
29/29/29/31/30/28
29/28/28/31/30/29
28/29/29/31/30/28
28/28/28/31/30/29

HP Rock
59 Power
31/31/30/29/30/30
30/30/31/29/30/30

60 Power
29/29/28/31/30/28
28/28/29/31/30/28

HP Ghost
59 Power
31/31/30/29/30/31
31/30/31/29/30/31
30/31/30/29/30/31
30/30/31/29/30/31

60 Power
29/29/28/31/30/29
29/28/29/31/30/29
28/29/28/31/30/29
28/28/29/31/30/29

HP Dragon
59 Power
31/30/31/29/31/31
31/31/30/29/31/31
30/31/31/29/31/31

60 Power
29/28/29/31/31/29
29/29/28/31/31/29
28/29/29/31/31/29

HP Dark
59 Power
31/31/31/29/31/31

60 Power
29/29/29/31/31/29

HP Steel
59 Power
31/31/31/29/30/31
30/30/30/28/31/30

60 Power
29/29/29/31/30/29
28/28/28/30/31/28

EDIT: a special thanks to Aeolus, without his Hidden Power guide this would have taken much longer to write than it did.

 

[Aldaron]

Very helpful, nice work.

 

[chaos]

good job

 

[timw06]

Great work! If only I'd had this a couple of months ago when I was rewriting Persian's movesets and EVs...

 

[X-Act]

A very good resource indeed.

 

[TheMantyke]

Oh wow, now THIS is helpful!

Thank you very much :)

 

[EconBiscuit]

Absoloutely spiffing job me old chap

 

[DeLorean]

Neat! Thanks Toothache.

Holy fuck I just said neat.

 

[ryubahamut]

bumping because this seems like a useful article. is it ready to be HTMLized, or is anything else to be added?

 

[Serv]

Posting to claim this article for HTMLization. I'll start on it as soon as I receive word from Toothache that he won't be adding anything else.

 

[Toothache]

Don't think there's much more that needs to be added, tbh. All the information is there and is pretty self-explanatory and self-contained.

 

[chaos]

before this is HTMLized the abbreviations need to be fixed

HP/Att/Def/SpAtt/SpDef/Speed -> HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

 

[Toothache]

Ok, that's just the convention I use normally, makes the particular IVs clearer I find. I'll change those now, however, if that's the standard.

 

[ryubahamut]

modified the OP to show new abbreviations, and fixed a few typos. is it alright now?

 

[chaos]

SpAtk/SpDef/Speed are also okay, if you don't like using the 3 letter codes. However, Att/SpAtt isn't standard and needs to be changed throughout the document (which is the main problem I had with it)

 

[Serv]

I've started on this already but I have a couple of questions should I leave the introduction the way it is? Or slightly edit it?

e.g.
Original: "To this end I created this list for those who wish to use a Hidden Power with Technician, getting a stronger base damage overall than it would normally reach (up to 90 base power after Technician, much stronger than the 70 base maximum normally reached with Hidden Power)."

Modified: "To this end this list was created for those who wish to use a Hidden Power with Technician, getting a stronger base damage overall than it would normally reach (up to 90 base power after the Technician boost, much stronger than the 70 base maximum normally reached with Hidden Power)."

Basically I removed all the I's in the original and rephrased it a bit.

~edit: I've finished HTMLizing this article I'll edit in any further changes should there be any.

 

[Toothache]

That sounds a little better tbh, I try my best to be as clear as possible but struggle a bit mostly down to my Aspergers