Raging Winds isn't solely a Flying weather, it's also a Dragon and Bug weather. Other points = taken
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Pokemon: The New First Gen (Submissions for new Pokemon Over, Except costumes)
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a few changes & new things (Bold is changed)
Split Worlds: Every move used by this pokemon gets a 0.5 priority increase.
Antigravity: Gains a ground immunity. This is not removed by the effect of Gravity.
Rubbery: Gives an Immunity to Electric Type Moves.
Thick Skin: Gives an immunity to all Super Effective attacks
Bellows: Raises Fire type attacks when hit by a Flying type attack (Works like flash fire, but damage is still taken)
Turbine: Raises Electric type attacks when hit by a Flying type attack
Radioactive: Deals 1/8 of the opponents HP at the end of each turn.
Auto-Repair: Heals 1/8 HP per turn
Pain: Raises attack and special attack 1 stage when at 33% HP or less
Panic: Raises Defence and Special Defence 1 stage when at 33% HP or less
Night Vision: Doubles this pokemon Accuracy in New Moon
Ambush: The first move this pokemon uses gains +3 priority and flinches the opponent. Only works on the first turn out. Doesn't activate on Status moves
Altertime: All this pokemon's attacks gain +5 priority
Neutral: Randomly switches between Plus and Minus
Trickster: This pokemon disguises itself as the pokemon it is nicknamed after.
Forewarn: Reveals the foes moveset
A couple of items:
Prism: Increases the power of light based moves by 30%
Time Crystal: This pokemon's Speed is doubled, but defences are cut to 2/3
a couple of moves:
Lighting Burst: 30 BP; Hits 3 times; last hit has a 10% chance to paralyze the foe; 24 PP; Electric Type; 95%
Thunderblade: 90 BP; 24 PP; 100% Accuracy; Electric Type
Plasma Claw: 90 BP; Has a 20% Chance to Burn or Paralyze; 16 PP; 90% Accuracy; Electric Type
X-Ray: 70 BP; has a 30% Chance to badly poison; 24 PP; 100% accuracy; Electric Type
Adrenaline: multiplies Speed & Attack by 1.5x for 3 turns; Fighting Type; 16 PP
Cryogenic Fire: 100 BP; has a 20% chance to freeze or burn the foe; 90% Accuracy; 8 PP; Fire + Ice type
Molt: Removes Status; Flying; 16 PP
Molten Glass: 150 BP; has a 100% chance to burn the foe; 50% accuracy; 8 PP; Ground type
Ludicrous Speed: 100 BP; +3 Priority; 5 PP; Normal type; 90% accuracy
Clear Skies: Removes the effect of any weather (Other than Extreme Sunlight, Heavy Rain and Raging Winds)
Aquagel: Provides an immunity to Fire Type Attacks; Can be used in the overworld to cross lava
Jet Stream: 120 BP; 70% Accuracy; Flying Type; 5 PP
And a new pokemon (Plz allow this Jerrytkrot)
Name: Neutri
Species: Cheering Pokemon
Typing: Electric
Ability: Neutral
Egg Group: Fairy
Stats:
- HP: 60
- Atk: 45
- Def: 45
- SpA: 80
- SpD: 80
- Speed: 95
Total: 405
Split Worlds: Every move used by this pokemon gets a 0.5 priority increase.
Antigravity: Gains a ground immunity. This is not removed by the effect of Gravity.
Rubbery: Gives an Immunity to Electric Type Moves.
Thick Skin: Gives an immunity to all Super Effective attacks
Bellows: Raises Fire type attacks when hit by a Flying type attack (Works like flash fire, but damage is still taken)
Turbine: Raises Electric type attacks when hit by a Flying type attack
Radioactive: Deals 1/8 of the opponents HP at the end of each turn.
Auto-Repair: Heals 1/8 HP per turn
Pain: Raises attack and special attack 1 stage when at 33% HP or less
Panic: Raises Defence and Special Defence 1 stage when at 33% HP or less
Night Vision: Doubles this pokemon Accuracy in New Moon
Ambush: The first move this pokemon uses gains +3 priority and flinches the opponent. Only works on the first turn out. Doesn't activate on Status moves
Altertime: All this pokemon's attacks gain +5 priority
Neutral: Randomly switches between Plus and Minus
Trickster: This pokemon disguises itself as the pokemon it is nicknamed after.
Forewarn: Reveals the foes moveset
A couple of items:
Prism: Increases the power of light based moves by 30%
Time Crystal: This pokemon's Speed is doubled, but defences are cut to 2/3
a couple of moves:
Lighting Burst: 30 BP; Hits 3 times; last hit has a 10% chance to paralyze the foe; 24 PP; Electric Type; 95%
Thunderblade: 90 BP; 24 PP; 100% Accuracy; Electric Type
Plasma Claw: 90 BP; Has a 20% Chance to Burn or Paralyze; 16 PP; 90% Accuracy; Electric Type
X-Ray: 70 BP; has a 30% Chance to badly poison; 24 PP; 100% accuracy; Electric Type
Adrenaline: multiplies Speed & Attack by 1.5x for 3 turns; Fighting Type; 16 PP
Cryogenic Fire: 100 BP; has a 20% chance to freeze or burn the foe; 90% Accuracy; 8 PP; Fire + Ice type
Molt: Removes Status; Flying; 16 PP
Molten Glass: 150 BP; has a 100% chance to burn the foe; 50% accuracy; 8 PP; Ground type
Ludicrous Speed: 100 BP; +3 Priority; 5 PP; Normal type; 90% accuracy
Clear Skies: Removes the effect of any weather (Other than Extreme Sunlight, Heavy Rain and Raging Winds)
Aquagel: Provides an immunity to Fire Type Attacks; Can be used in the overworld to cross lava
Jet Stream: 120 BP; 70% Accuracy; Flying Type; 5 PP
And a new pokemon (Plz allow this Jerrytkrot)
Name: Neutri
Species: Cheering Pokemon
Typing: Electric
Ability: Neutral
Egg Group: Fairy
Stats:
- HP: 60
- Atk: 45
- Def: 45
- SpA: 80
- SpD: 80
- Speed: 95
Total: 405
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Cookie Butter
formerly the someone
These multi type weathers got me thinking... Can we change harsh sunlight so Grass types don't get affected by extra Fire type damage? Would be a ×2 weakness instead of ×2×1.5=×3 weakness.
Ludicrousity Thick Skin is OP and Neutral is too weak but I like the rest. Oh and Adrenaline and Roost are also OP.
Ludicrousity Thick Skin is OP and Neutral is too weak but I like the rest. Oh and Adrenaline and Roost are also OP.
People say that things are OP. Remember, it can be used on a weak pokemon to make it viable... Thick Skin is just the opposite of Wonder Guard. Neutral is mainly supposed to be for Neutri, so it isn't intended to be fully viable. Adrenaline is only OP whilst it's active, although i could possibly nerf it to 2 turns or 1.5x. Roost isn't exactly OP, but I'll just make a new move that fulfils that role :P
Also, I'm gonna start a quick poll (If you wanna call it that):
Should there be a Pokebank Harmo tier along with the Singles and Doubles (Possibly Triples?)
I vote Yes although I think it should have a different name than Pokebank. Something like Poketransfer Gen 8
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Fine. but this is the last new one. Period. And it needs a HA. I suggest Motor Drive.a few changes & new things (Bold is changed)
Split Worlds: Every move used by this pokemon gets a 0.5 priority increase.
Antigravity: Gains a ground immunity. This is not removed by the effect of Gravity.
Rubbery: Gives an Immunity to Electric Type Moves.
Thick Skin: Gives an immunity to all Super Effective attacks
Bellows: Raises Fire type attacks when hit by a Flying type attack (Works like flash fire, but damage is still taken)
Turbine: Raises Electric type attacks when hit by a Flying type attack
Radioactive: Deals 1/8 of the opponents HP at the end of each turn.
Auto-Repair: Heals 1/8 HP per turn
Pain: Raises attack and special attack 1 stage when at 33% HP or less
Panic: Raises Defence and Special Defence 1 stage when at 33% HP or less
Night Vision: Doubles this pokemon Accuracy in New Moon
Ambush: The first move this pokemon uses gains +3 priority and flinches the opponent. Only works on the first turn out. Doesn't activate on Status moves
Altertime: All this pokemon's attacks gain +5 priority
Neutral: Randomly switches between Plus and Minus
Trickster: This pokemon disguises itself as the pokemon it is nicknamed after.
Forewarn: Reveals the foes moveset
A couple of items:
Prism: Increases the power of light based moves by 30%
Time Crystal: This pokemon's Speed is doubled, but defences are cut to 2/3
a couple of moves:
Lighting Burst: 30 BP; Hits 3 times; last hit has a 10% chance to paralyze the foe; 24 PP; Electric Type; 95%
Thunderblade: 90 BP; 24 PP; 100% Accuracy; Electric Type
Plasma Claw: 90 BP; Has a 20% Chance to Burn or Paralyze; 16 PP; 90% Accuracy; Electric Type
X-Ray: 70 BP; has a 30% Chance to badly poison; 24 PP; 100% accuracy; Electric Type
Adrenaline: multiplies Speed & Attack by 1.5x for 3 turns; Fighting Type; 16 PP
Cryogenic Fire: 100 BP; has a 20% chance to freeze or burn the foe; 90% Accuracy; 8 PP; Fire + Ice type
Molt: Removes Status; Flying; 16 PP
Molten Glass: 150 BP; has a 100% chance to burn the foe; 50% accuracy; 8 PP; Ground type
Ludicrous Speed: 100 BP; +3 Priority; 5 PP; Normal type; 90% accuracy
Clear Skies: Removes the effect of any weather (Other than Extreme Sunlight, Heavy Rain and Raging Winds)
Aquagel: Provides an immunity to Fire Type Attacks; Can be used in the overworld to cross lava
Jet Stream: 120 BP; 70% Accuracy; Flying Type; 5 PP
And a new pokemon (Plz allow this Jerrytkrot)
Name: Neutri
Species: Cheering Pokemon
Typing: Electric
Ability: Neutral
Egg Group: Fairy
Stats:
- HP: 60
- Atk: 45
- Def: 45
- SpA: 80
- SpD: 80
- Speed: 95
Total: 405
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Cookie Butter
formerly the someone
True. It's better than Wonder Guard though since the mon would have 0 weaknesses.
Okay. I did a similar ability to Neutral in another metagame by making the Pokémon have both Plus and Minus effects, so it gets a 100% boost to SpAtk and activates others' Plus or Minus as well. But yours is better thematically I think.
Yeah. 3 turns is enough to possibly wipe out half of the other team. It's basically a physical Geomancy for frail attackers, so changing it would be good. Or you could give it to bad fighting types like uhh Emboar, Hariyama, Hitmonchan and Primeape.
Yes it is. Imagine how Pokémon like Dragonite, Kyurem-Black, Lati@s, Scizor, MegaZards would be OP without the threat of being burned/badly poisoned/paralyzed. You burned a Scizor while it was setting up? You thought it would cut its attack and deal passive damage? Too bad, Scizor can recover its HP, remove the burn and the attack drop and keep setting up. Not fair lol.
If we get a server to host this, sure. If not I'd restrict it to basic Singles OU with the available Pokémon only, until more people get to know the meta and stuff.
a few changes & new things (Bold is changed)
Split Worlds: Every move used by this pokemon gets a 0.5 priority increase.
This is extremely good, make its distribution extremely limited :P
Antigravity: Gains a ground immunity. This is not removed by the effect of Gravity.
Rubbery: Gives an Immunity to Electric Type Moves.
Thick Skin: Gives an immunity to all Super Effective attacks
Once again, this is extremely OP, and it should only be given to Shedinja-like Pokémon
Bellows: Raises Fire type attacks when hit by a Flying type attack (Works like flash fire, but damage is still taken)
Turbine: Raises Electric type attacks when hit by a Flying type attack
Radioactive: Deals 1/8 of the opponents HP at the end of each turn.
Auto-Repair: Heals 1/8 HP per turn
Pain: Raises attack and special attack 1 stage when at 33% HP or less
Panic: Raises Defence and Special Defence 1 stage when at 33% HP or less
Night Vision: Doubles this pokemon Accuracy in New Moon
I really like this one :) good job
Ambush: The first move this pokemon uses gains +3 priority and flinches the opponent. Only works on the first turn out. Doesn't activate on Status moves
You better limit the distribution of this one too. Only very weak Pokémon should gain this ability, do not give it to something like Weavile, please
Altertime: All this pokemon's attacks gain +5 priority
^ This is a joke right?
Neutral: Randomly switches between Plus and Minus
Trickster: This pokemon disguises itself as the pokemon it is nicknamed after.
I'm not a huge fan of this one either :P
Forewarn: Reveals the foes moveset
Please make this one very limited too :S
A couple of items:
Prism: Increases the power of light based moves by 30%
Very cool, Ludi I really like this item :)
Time Crystal: This pokemon's Speed is doubled, but defences are cut to 2/3
This one is pretty broken, either you make it exclusive (like Thick Club) or you nerf it. Multiplying by 1.5x seems fair to me
a couple of moves:
Lighting Burst: 30 BP; Hits 3 times; last hit has a 10% chance to paralyze the foe; 24 PP; Electric Type; 95%
Thunderblade: 90 BP; 24 PP; 100% Accuracy; Electric Type
Plasma Claw: 90 BP; Has a 20% Chance to Burn or Paralyze; 16 PP; 90% Accuracy; Electric Type
X-Ray: 70 BP; has a 30% Chance to badly poison; 24 PP; 100% accuracy; Electric Type
Adrenaline: multiplies Speed & Attack by 1.5x for 3 turns; Fighting Type; 16 PP
Cryogenic Fire: 100 BP; has a 20% chance to freeze or burn the foe; 90% Accuracy; 8 PP; Fire + Ice type
Molt: Removes Status; Flying; 16 PP
Molten Glass: 150 BP; has a 100% chance to burn the foe; 50% accuracy; 8 PP; Ground type
Ludi, I think this one is wayyy to good :P please give this one only to bad Pokémon
Ludicrous Speed: 100 BP; +3 Priority; 5 PP; Normal type; 90% accuracy
Hahaha I see what you did here. Just make sure to limit this one even more than E Speed, cuz +3 priority is just insane
Clear Skies: Removes the effect of any weather (Other than Extreme Sunlight, Heavy Rain and Raging Winds)
I already made a move like that in this Pet Mod :)
Aquagel: Provides an immunity to Fire Type Attacks; Can be used in the overworld to cross lava
Jet Stream: 120 BP; 70% Accuracy; Flying Type; 5 PP
This completely outclasses Hurricane :P imao you should make it 100% accurate but 90 BP
And a new pokemon (Plz allow this Jerrytkrot)
Name: Neutri
Species: Cheering Pokemon
Typing: Electric
Ability: Neutral
Egg Group: Fairy
Stats:
- HP: 60
- Atk: 45
- Def: 45
- SpA: 80
- SpD: 80
- Speed: 95
Total: 405
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I don't like this idea just for flavor purposes. Plusle and Minun were made to help each other, as they are opposites. Having a Neutron Pokemon doesn't really make sense with that whole idea.Name: Neutri
Species: Cheering Pokemon
Typing: Electric
Ability: Neutral
Egg Group: Fairy
Stats:
- HP: 60
- Atk: 45
- Def: 45
- SpA: 80
- SpD: 80
- Speed: 95
Total: 405
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Also, Im gonna edit th moves submission I made that apparently everyone forgot about...
I may possibly be able to get this up on a server. But I think the server died :/
Ludicrousity I though you were coming up with all of thes abilities/moves/items. I didn't read the part that some already existed my bad... that's why I kept insisting on the low distribution thing :S
-Time Crystal would look very good even with the defense halving, that's because most of the Pokemon that want extra speed wouldn't really care too much about its Defenses. Think Tapu Bulu, for example, if it had its speed doubled, it'd outspeed the entire unboosted Harmo transfer OU meta and still pack a punch on its Attacks. It really wouldn't care too much about bulk. So imao there are very few scenarios where Choice Scarf or Torment Boots would be used over Time Crystal
-For Molten Glass I really did miss the accuracy part, my bad
-For Jet Stream, most of the time, a Pokémon with access to both Jet Stream and Hurricane would be choosing Jet, because of its higher BP, since the accuracy is the same
-Time Crystal would look very good even with the defense halving, that's because most of the Pokemon that want extra speed wouldn't really care too much about its Defenses. Think Tapu Bulu, for example, if it had its speed doubled, it'd outspeed the entire unboosted Harmo transfer OU meta and still pack a punch on its Attacks. It really wouldn't care too much about bulk. So imao there are very few scenarios where Choice Scarf or Torment Boots would be used over Time Crystal
-For Molten Glass I really did miss the accuracy part, my bad
-For Jet Stream, most of the time, a Pokémon with access to both Jet Stream and Hurricane would be choosing Jet, because of its higher BP, since the accuracy is the same
I can code the mod, but I can't host the server, so If you could do this it would be amazing.
Chronnihilate gets Forewarn.
Cookie Butter
formerly the someone
I really like Ice type Stealth Rocks and I feel that it was the missing piece in balancing the metagame. Flying types were and probably still are the single most overcentralizing type in the metagame. Think Landorus-Therian, the most overcentralizing Gen 7 OU Pokémon right now, 45% usage amongst top players, except it has 1-turn 135 BP Fly with STAB and immunity to chip damage from Raging Winds. Sounds like a horribly broken metagame. But how impactful would it be after Ice type Stealth Rocks, with that x4 weakness? Garchomp too would be more balanced, although the landshark is a much smaller problem. And as for overpowered Harmo Pokemon who'd be uhh less overpowered, the 10 Aurulong forms, Dresla, Mendeleviathan, Newtearth and other high BST Dragons (there are a LOT of Dragons).
Since I started talking about hazards, I can talk about my next suggestion. Not that related to exploudit's post but I don't want to doublepost.
There are still a bunch of Flying types who wouldn't feel a change because they're weak to Rocks already. They'd still take the same amount of damage from Ice and still be overpowered. HOWEVER when you think about it, those Pokemon were already getting benefits from Grass type Stealth Rock AKA Brambles. All those Flying types, most of them who resist Grass, would simply see better results in the New First Gen metagame because people would be using Brambles. With Icy Dugs they're screwed either way so they don't get even more overpowered. What I'm trying to say is, on top of adding Ice type Stealth Rocks, we should probably change how Brambles works as well. It's not just Flying types, using http://pokemondb.net/tools/type-coverage you can see how Grass is a terrible offensive typing, 390 of the real Pokémon would resist Brambles, 179 would take super effective damage from it. Compare that to Rock's 150 resists and 248 super effective damages. Or Ice's 245/267. Brambles is a terrible hazard currently.
I want to hear everyone's opinions on this, I'm suggesting to change someone else's move after all. I think Brambles should have the Leech Seed effect without being removable by switching out. Leech Seed and it would be stackable.
A version of leech seed that switching doesn't remove just sounds insanely annoying and would really power up Stall. I don't approve of powering up Stall.
More hazards just seems unnecessary.
As for overcentralizing flying types, overcentralizing stuff tends to get banned and Landorus/Chomp may not be available.
Maybe Brambles a little bit more damage. Like 15% to neutral, 30% to weak, 60% to quad weak and so on, but tbh, I think brambles can be balanced because it has different setters than SR, Icy Dugs and Ember Spread. There are plenty of Bulky grasses now and that is just less teambuilding concern, if your team already has a Tangrowth, for example you wouldn't need to add SR over Will O Wisp on your Alolan Marowak for example. Idk, but I feel like it is kind of balanced as it is
Cookie Butter
formerly the someone
Why would we ban things that we can nerf and change lol
The team would always benefit more from SR than Brambles unless it had a bunch of Fire types who are weak to Water/Ground/Rock moves.
EDIT: I calculated the damage needed for Brambles to be equal to Stealth Rock in real Pokémon and it would have to be 1.2 times stronger than SR to make it worth it. Which is exactly what you suggested lol. I'd say that those are good numbers.
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lando is unlikely to be available in the main meta anyway so...
This was glossed over awhile ago. While I know that most of this Pet Mod isn't on the doc, I don't think this was ever acknowledged, so I'd like to get an opinion on it
Good news. I've put forward a request to place this on a server, and we can begin coding it on dragonheaven.psim.us :D
This is gonna be so good :)
Edit: And We've already started on the coding. :D
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Look on the spreadsheet. Look at the tiers. There's Ubers listed there, which is OU's banlist -Mega Ray. If we nerf and change stuff instead of banning, will Ubers ever get any new additions?
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I second this. We need to have an Ubers meta aswell.
Yeah, I agree too, right now, the only Poke'mon intened to be Ubers are Amnicrypha, Scergafectus and Aurulong-O
Oh that reminds me I never did get to add a complete movepool to Amni and Scerga. I'll get right on that.
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