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Discussion in 'Ruins of Alph' started by Solidus, Dec 28, 2008.

  1. Solidus

    Solidus

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    Moltres @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
    Modest Nature (-Atk, +SAtk)
    - Fire Spin
    - Flamethrower
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Substitute

    Max special attack + Fire Spin trapping

    Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 196 HP / 252 Def / 60 SAtk
    Bold Nature (-Atk, +Def)
    - Ice Beam
    - Protect
    - Surf
    - Wish

    I'm thinking of replacing Protect with Haze.

    Salamence (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Blast
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Rock Slide

    Standard CB'er

    Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Immunity
    EVs: 108 HP / 124 Atk / 136 Def / 140 SDef
    Careful Nature (-SAtk, +SDef)
    - Body Slam
    - Curse
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk

    Standard Curselax. I sometimes think of using Fire Blast, but I'm not sure on what to replace it with.

    Claydol @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 162 Atk / 12 Spd / 60 SAtk / 24 SDef
    Calm Nature (-Atk, +SDef)
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Ice Beam
    - Psychic
    - Rapid Spin

    Spinner + Special attacker

    Regirock @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 204 HP / 112 SAtk / 56 Def / 136 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Curse
    - Explosion
    - Focus Punch
    - Rock Slide

    After 2 or more Curses, it takes physical attacks like they're nothing.


    The main weakness is that I don't have any proper phazers, so stat boosting is a problem. Actually, the only matches I ever lost while using this team were stat boosting/Baton passing matches
  2. ABC-Trainer

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    Cursepert of all things really fucks with you. Put haze on vaporeon, roar on moltres over fire spin, it doesn't matter but you need some way to counter stat uppers. When Regirock blows up on the bulky water that's shitting all over you, you inevitably die to anything with an attack stat.
  3. Solidus

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    Fire Spin is for trapping, but it isn't reliable offensively, so I'll just go ahead and replace it with Roar. Regirock is the main physical defense, but Vaporeon is bulky enough to withstand most physical attacks. I wouldn't have to worry about Vaporeon getting wiped out by a Swords Dancer if I had Haze.
  4. Cerivious

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    Needs more Zephyr Fire and Semula and Water and Lackluster and I can see you and Nakmachine ya.
    Did vapicuno give you this?

    Anyway I really don't suggest leading with Moltres. Common leads such as Zapdos, Salamence, Tyranitar, etc, all screw Moltres up big time. Lead with CBMence imo.
  5. Umby

    Umby I'm gonna bury you in the ground~
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    I can't really see Fire Spin working without Toxic or Protect for Pressure abuse. Even then you'd probably still need higher speed for it to work the way you want it.
  6. Solidus

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    Yes he did, but I plan on changing the team up a little by making small changes to the EV's and moves.

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