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RU Playstyle Classification Thread

Discussion in 'Ruins of Alph' started by DittoCrow, May 12, 2013.

  1. Molk

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    Hail


    Utility:

    [​IMG] (Utility)


    • Great pokemon for supporting hail teams
    • covers various threats to hail such as Entei, Emboar, Escavalier, and Durant
    • Intimidate comes in handy for softening physical attacks, which can stop a potential sweep and also make it easier for something like walrein to set up a substitute
    • can stop slower opponents from spikestacking against hail with a somewhat fast taunt
    • speaking of spikestacking, qwilfish is one of the best spikers for a hail team!
    • although most sets just run spikes, dual spikes qwilfish is especially effective in hail, being able to form the dreaded Toxic Spikes+hail+walrein combination
    • lacks the resistance to rock-type moves poliwrath has, which can be annoying on occasion
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    Stall:

    Special Walls / Heal Bell Users:

    [​IMG]

    Lanturn (Tank)

    • Solid bulk and useful typing
    • Can take on many of RU's threats such as Moltres, Omastar, Manectric, Rotom-F, etc.
    • It has Scald and shit to support the team
    • It also has Heal bell to cure status
    • T-Wave is cool
    • Can also use Volt Switch

    Offense:

    Wallbreakers:

    [​IMG]

    Escavalier (Choice Band)

    • Has 135 Attack and a mighty STAB Megahorn to open some massive holes in team
    • Solid typing allowing it to come in on what it wishes to and start wallbreaking with Megahorn
    • Has Pursuit to trap shit
    • It's fucking badass

    Manly Teams:

    Druddigon

    [​IMG]

    Come on now, this thing is very manly, with its design. Just look at it.
  3. Molk

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    o_k, i've updated the OP with your submissions once again! just let me know if i missed anything major and i'll add/remove it from the list, and heres a submission of my own!


    Bulky Offense

    Special Sweepers

    [​IMG] (Quiver Dance)

    • already in offense and balanced special sweepers sections, and for good reason too
    • probably one of the scariest Pokemon in RU, every team needs a way to handle her
    • can take out a check or counter with Sleep Powder bar sleep absorbers
    • Quiver Dance is an insane boosting move
    • has some coverage issues, but either Hidden Power Fire or Hidden Power Rock lets lilligant hit at least some of her potential checks hard
    • if Lilligant sets up and your check/counter is down or put to sleep, you're going to have a hard time
    • while her coverage with hidden power is at least usable, its still flawed
    • kinda frail overall, although she can take special hits decently after a quiver dance

    Offense/Bulky Offense/Balance

    Revenge Killers (just offense) and Tanks/Utility (all)

    [​IMG] (Choice Scarf)

    • It might seem odd to put a choice scarf on Lilligant when she could be quiver dance sweeping, but scarf lilli is actually a decent utility mon and revenge killer
    • super fast sleep powder lets Lilligant put something out of comission fast, including potential boosting threats other sleep inducing mons wouldn't be able to outspeed
    • 90 Speed is pretty good for a choice scarf Pokemon, faster than scarf Rotom-C
    • can use a combination of Leaf Storm/Petal Dance and Hidden Power to revenge kill various threats such as Entei, or she can clean up late game with Own Tempo Petal Dance (if she's running it)
    • fast Healing Wish gives Lilli the chance to fully heal one of her teammates, giving them a second chance to sweep and often turning a whole game around
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    Bulky Offense

    Tangrowth


    [​IMG]


    1. It has great 100/125 defenses
    2. When you slap Choice Specs on it it's 110 base special attack is not be be underestimated (I have even used a Choice Band set to decent succes)
    3. It has Regenerator to keep it healthy throughout the match and it pairs well with other bulky offensive pokemon like Slowking.
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    Offense/Balance

    Special Sweepers:

    [​IMG] (Calm Mind)

    • Already in bulky offense special sweepers section and for good reason
    • Solid bulk, good base 105 Special Attack and great coverage in Psychic+BoltBeam
    • Not easy to revenge kill due to solid bulk and possibility of Sub
    • Has issues with Sucker Punch and faster threats, but Sub can remedy this to an extent
    • Base 80 Speed is decent, but paralysis support really helps Mesprit sweep against more offensive teams

    Offense/Bulky Offense/Balance

    Pivots:

    [​IMG] (Choice Specs)

    • Good 80 / 105 / 105 defenses to tank hits and strike back hard
    • Has access to U-turn and is immune to (Toxic) Spikes thanks to Levitate, thus making Mesprit a great offensive pivot
    • Solid coverage in Psychic+BoltBeam to force out many threats such as Slowking and Sceptile
    • Can go slightly bulkier with a spread of 92 HP / 252 SpA / 164 Spe to be a bit sturdier of a pivot
    • Pursuit-weak, but U-turn helps mitigate this to an extent. Sucker Punch sucks though ;_;
    • Can double up as a wallbreaker and shares good synergy with many wallbreakers such as Aggron and Emboar.

    Btw, Molk, you put Torterra's Defensive Tank set under Physical Sweepers in Bulky Offense... Just thought I'd bring that to your attention lol.
  6. Molk

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    Oh whoops, meant for that to be Rock Polish lol :x. Thanks for pointing that out! :).


    Anyways, this Pokemon is already listed in special sweepers for offense, but its fine in bulky offense and balance too, so here we go.

    Bulky Offense/Balance

    Special Sweepers

    [​IMG] (Shell Smash)

    • Sorta high risk, high reward
    • hard to set up in the current metagame, but if you do manage to set up your opponent's in a lot of trouble
    • Water STAB+Shell Smash is really good, especially considering Omastar's high Special Attack stat
    • Ice Beam and Hidden Power Grass cover almost everything Omastar can't just blast with Hydro Pump/Surf
    • Able to Outpace Rotom-C at +2, unlike other shell smashers and just set up sweepers in general
    • one opportunity that Omastar can use to set up is against a CB Entei locked into Flare Blitz or ExtremeSpeed
    • good physical bulk and resistance to many forms of priority make it a bit harder to revenge kill once it gets going

    also

    Balance/Stall

    Physical Walls:

    [​IMG] (Physical Wall)

    • somewhat outclassed but Quagsire does have a nice niche on stall/defensive balance teams that need it
    • capable of walling many physical attackers such as Entei, Emboar, and Aggron
    • keep in mind though that the other bulky water-types can do this as well
    • Quagsire's real niche is in unaware, which lets it completely ignore the opponent's stat boosts and check Pokemon the other Bulky Water-types can't, such as Lum SD Gallade lacking Leaf Blade and SubCM Uxie lacking giga drain
    • Quagsire possesses reliable recovery too, giving it a second niche over poliwrath and qwilfish, although alomomola still has Wish to overshadow it.
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    Here's something.

    Sun Teams:

    Sweepers

    [​IMG]

    Sawsbuck (Swords Dance or Choice Band)

    • Fast as hell in the sun, good physical sweeper on those teams
    • It can hit pretty hard and has great coverage in Double-Edge, Horn Leech, and Nature Power (EQ)
    • Swords Dance or CB can make it pretty threatening
    • Overall pretty good piece of sun teams

    [​IMG]

    Emboar (Choice Scarf)

    • Hits ridiculously hard with sun boosted Flare Blitz
    • Physical attacker, also has Superpower and Wild Charge for awesome coverage
    • Could also run Sleep Talk to take on opposing Lilligant
    • It has a beard of flames, lol

    Offense:

    [​IMG]

    Simipour (Nasty Plot or Choice Specs)

    • The most useful of the three monkeys, by far
    • Simipour can grab a Nasty Plot boost and its Hydro Pump hits like a fucking truck
    • It has Ice Beam, Hidden Power, and Focus Blast for solid coverage
    • Hard to wall in general

    Bulky Offense:

    Hazard Setters

    [​IMG]

    Mesprit (Support)

    • Can set up Stealth Rock, does good at that thanks to its bulk and typing
    • It also poses a very solid offensive threat as well, 105 SpA and Psychic+coverage means it can dent the team
    • It has U-turn to switch out so it can SR again if Cryo/Tops removes it
    • Can take on Tops/Cryo with the proper moves
    • It's pretty cute

    Wallbreakers

    [​IMG]

    Rhydon (Choice Band)

    • Amazing Attack stat allowing it to hit like a nuke
    • Amazing coverage in its STAB moves alone
    • Has Megahorn and Double Edge to sweeten the deal
    • Typing isn't great defensively but it's decent enough
    • It looks so fucking manly

    Physical Sweepers

    [​IMG]

    Rhydon (Rock Polish)

    • Its Speed isn't ideal but after a boost it has pretty good Speed
    • Has STAB EdgeQuake, which is fantastic and High Attack makes Rhydon a threatening sweeper
    • Can run EdgeQuake+Megahorn to just threaten the whole metagame
    • Kinda hard to set up but once it does, it can be a true threat to contend with
    • It's manly

    Balance:

    Hazard Setters

    [​IMG]

    Mesprit (Support)

    • Good SR setter thanks to being pretty bulky
    • Offensive threat as well, hitting reasonably hard and having good coverage
    • U-turn helps, switch to a sweeper and get
    • Cute Pokemon

    [​IMG]

    Rhydon (Tank)

    • Sets up SR like a boss because it's bulky as hell
    • Its typing isn't great defensively but the bulk of God it has makes up for it
    • It also poses a very strong threat with high Attack and EdgeQuake coverage
    • Very good on balanced teams
    • MANLY


    Manly Teams:

    [​IMG]

    Rhydon

    Rhydon is so fucking manly, I mean just look at it, what's not manly about this thing?

    damn so many rhydons lol
  8. Molk

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    Bulky Offense/Balance


    Hazard Setters

    [​IMG] (Bulky)

    • Good typing and water absorb ability make seismitoad a good Stealth Rock setters
    • Water/Ground typing leaves Seismitoad with only a single weakness to Grass-type moves, and gives it a resistance to Fire, Rock, Poison, and Steel moves, as well as an immunity to Electric-type moves. Water Absorb gives Seismitoad an extra immunity to Water as well which even lets it recover Hp when switching in
    • aforementioned resistances make Seismitoad a cool check to many common RU pokemon such as Feraligatr, Kabutops, Entei, Klinklang, Emboar, Aggron, Manectric, and Rhydon, letting it provides some nice defensive synergy while doing its job of setting up hazards.
    • can run either a physically defensive set, a specially defensive set, or even an offensive SR set effectively
  9. Molk

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    Hey, sorry for double posting, but i just wanted to let you guys know that this thread has been updated with all the entries posted once again =). Great job everyone! (although discussion is dying down a bit....have to fix that).

    Anyways, to keep discussion going

    Bulky Offense/Maybe Offense idk

    Pivots:

    [​IMG]

    • Lanturn's good all around bulk, nice typing, good ability, and slow volt switch make it a good pivot in the RU tier
    • checks/counters many common pokemon such as Moltres, Entei, Emboar, Rotom-F, Rotom-N, Manectric, and Omastar
    • Moltres is especially important, as its one of the few Pokemon that can switch in on all of its offensive moves at least once
    • Slow Volt Switch makes it easy to get the switch advantage with lanturn, and also lets lanturn take a hit for its teammate while getting them in for free
    • can use heal bell to heal off the status problems of its teammates if need be
    • can paralyze opponents with thunder wave and burn opponents with scald if need be
    • doesn't hit that hard
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    Offense-physical sweeper

    Pinsir
    [​IMG]
    -125 attack is damn good in ru-only ten less than escavalier.
    -Can get up a SD on quite a few pokes, such as defensive tangrowth, amoonguss(as long as sleep clause is active) and many others due to its decent bulk.
    -Moxie gets it to +2.5 after a SD and a single kill-this makes it ez to sweep with quick attack.
    -Bug STAB is useful against mons such as tangrowth, slowking and uxie.
    -Bug isn't great defensively ofc-it's sr weak and fails to set-up against mons such as magmortar.
    -Manly
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    I got a few. Note that everything here is listed as an RU Pokemon (3 of which aren't represented on the list yet at all), so I'm mainly trying to cover up a few gaps.

    Bulky Offense/Balance
    Physical Sweepers: [pimg]160[/pimg] (Swords Dance)
    • Although it looks outclassed by Kabutops its superior bulk allows it to be a better fit on these sort of teams that don't need Rapid Spin
    • Less weaknesses allows it to set up on the likes of Slowking, or at least set up while not having to simultaneously force a switch
    • A lot of coverage moves in Crunch, Return, Ice Punch, Earthquake, and Superpower, allowing it to get past something that may have a chance at walling it.
    • Torrent is extremely scary when it happens to be in that range.
    • Can take a hit that would otherwise end a sweep for other Pokemon.
    • STAB Priority move in Aqua Jet + Torrent is devastating.
    • Not quite as strong as other Swords Dance sweepers.

    Bulky Offense (only one this set fits on imo, on pure offense Crawdaunt is better)
    Physical Sweepers: [pimg]160[/pimg] (Dragon Dance)
    • Has a good combination of speed power and bulk. Although not particularly amazing in any category, unlike other Dragon Dance sweepers, it isn't lacking in any category either unlike others.
    • Doesn't have as many weaknesses as Crawdaunt, allowing it to set up more than it.
    • As with Swords Dance, it gets a lot of coverage moves to get past a bunch of misc. stuff that Crawdaunt cannot.
    • Fast enough to outspeed Sceptile and Aerodactyl (but not Accelgor) at +1 unlike Crawduant
    • In case you didn't get it by now it gets a lot of competition from Crawduant
    • Not very strong moves means it needs to set up a bit before doing damage.

    Balance
    Hazard Setters: [pimg]208[/pimg] (Support)
    • Can switch into everything that is a physical attack
    • While I know this is already on stall, the reason why it deserves a mention on Balance is because of Gyro Ball and Earthquake. They hit hard enough to give it a reason to be used outside of stall, even though it is exactly the same set.
    • Gyro Ball OHKOs a lot of frail, offensive Pokemon, while Earthquake dissuades Fire-types (aka OHKOs most of them).
    • Oh yeah and if it felt like it it could use Dragon Tail to rack up that damage even more.
    • Other than that its role is very similar to stall: wall, phaze, and set up stealth rock.

    Offense/Bulky Offense?
    Wallbreakers: [pimg]107[/pimg] (Life Orb)
    • Fighting STAB + Mach Punch + BoltBeam coverage + Iron Fist = good.
    • If you don't have a Psychic or Ghost-type chances are you will be somewhat hard pressed to wall Hitmonchan. Even then, good luck switching in Sigilyph or Slowking at the expense of being hit by a ThunderPunch
    • Causes a lot of switches.
    • Iron Fist Drain Punch allows it to stay healthy (or it could use Close Combat to go nuts)
    • Doesn't have the greatest stats around, and it has a lot of competition from Gallade.
    • It isn't the best wallbreaker out there but it still is pretty effective.

    Offense
    Wallbreakers: [pimg]471[/pimg] (Life Orb)
    • It's kinda like Hitmonchan except it dies faster, lack priority, hits harder, is faster, and covers more targets.
    • Really wears down defensive cores (or just Pokemon with irritating typings) such as Tangrowth, Slowking, Steelix, Rotom, etc. thanks to its STAB, good offensive stats, and Flamethrower. In general Flamethrower is just a godsend for a physical attacker
    • Very good coverage in general.
    • Forces a lot of switches and nets a notable amount of KOs with a bit of prior damage making it very good at utilizing entry hazards (it can also OHKO both spinners)
    • Wears down rather fast, doesn't KO much without hazard support
    • It isn't the best wallbreaker out there but can still work with the right support.

    As a side note, I believe the only three manly Pokemon are Pinsir (it just is), Bouffalant (afro), and Emboar (beard), because all the others are just large spiky physical attackers. I'd remove the others from the category but its not like the category is important or anything so idk
  12. EonX

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    Found a few things that weren't here. Kind of surprised at one of them tbh.

    Offense

    Hazard Setters:

    [​IMG] (Suicide Lead)

    • Great Special Attack, solid bulk, and access to Spikes (as well as SR if really needed)
    • Beats the most common spinner, Kabutops
    • Has Weak Armor and Icy Wind to make up for lower Speed
    • Thanks to this, it commonly gets up 2 layers of Spikes at minimum when played correctly
    • Struggles against Smeargle, but works well with Magmortar anyway to make up for this
    • Even has Toxic Spikes if you really want to use them

    Bulky Offense

    Hazard Setters:

    [​IMG] (Support)

    • Great physical bulk, access to all 3 entry hazards, and good raw Special Attack stat? Yes, please.
    • Can use any combination of SR, Spikes, or Toxic Spikes depending on team needs
    • Hard to setup on due to Omastar's base 115 Special Attack and Scald's 30% burn rate
    • Struggles mightily against Electric- and Grass-types due to lack of investment in Special Attack... Hi Roselia and Amoonguss.
    • Very effective due to the ubiquity of its Shell Smash set

    Balance/Bulky Offense

    Hazard Setters:

    [​IMG] (Standard Support or Dual Screens)

    • Great all-around bulk and access to SR
    • Has U-turn to build momentum
    • Can further support with any of T-Wave, Memento, Yawn, or Heal Bell depending on team needs
    • Can be EVed to better support physically defensive Spikers (Ferroseed and Qwilfish) or specially defensive Spikers (Roselia)
    • Arguably the best all-around support Pokemon in RU. You can't go wrong with it.
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    Offense

    Physical Sweepers:

    [​IMG] (Offensive Swords Dance)

    • Technician boosted STABs and priority
    • Swords Dance to set up
    • Good coverage between its STABs
    • 110 Base Attack and 105 Base Speed
    • Can bluff a choice set with a Lum Berry or Eviolite
    • Can set up on a Leaf Storm Rotom-Mow, a choice locked fighting type, or a wall that tries to status it (Lum Berry)

    Manly

    [​IMG]

    MANectric
  14. Molk

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    Hail Teams

    Ice Body Pokemon:

    [​IMG] (Subtect)

    • Although Walrein is by far the most common Ice Body abuser, Glaceon is no pushover when it comes to this role either
    • way more powerful than Walrein, even without a boosting item Blizzards off of base 130 Special Attack hurt!
    • Can use Substitute as a cushion to fire off powerful blizzards and hidden powers, while ice body restores its hp back in the process, making it a tough opponent once it gets going
    • Not nearly as bulky as Walrein, so it might be a bit harder to get that first Substitute up. Although the sheer threat of a Glaceon on the field makes up for this somewhat, as it often forces switches
    • works really well with Toxic Spikes just like its walrus counterpart.
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    Going to have to double post again to let everyone know i've updated the OP with everyone's submissions (except the scyther suggestion, Dittocrow mentioned before he wasn't sure about adding Scyther anywhere other than volturn so i'd like to hear his thoughts before adding it) and to get some discussion going here again ;_;. The thread was doing pretty well before the forums went down =(. Some of the links for completely new pokemon might not be functioning correctly because i'm not totally used to the new forums, but i'll try and fix them asap.

    PS: i also decided to add some of the submissions to other areas where i thought they might fit despite them not being suggested for those specific areas (see: hitmonchan)

    Anyways, onto my submission!

    Hail teams:

    Utility:

    [​IMG] (Tank or Choice Band)

    • Resists and/or is immune to Fighting- and Rock-type moves, two types common hail abusers really struggle with
    • Sets up Stealth Rock for hail teams while also applying a bunch of offensive pressure, CB golurk applies even more pressure at the cost of some utility
    • another Pokemon that threatens hail: escavalier hates facing Golurk. Golurk can take even a CB Megahorn from Escavalier and can easily OHKO it in return with Fire Punch
    • Many other pokemon that can be potentially annoying for hail are threatened by Golurk, either because they can't switch in on it or because it checks or counters them
    • Blizzspam helps get rid of Tangrowth, the bane of the robot's existence
    • Golurk is manly
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    Misc. Roles
    [​IMG] (SWAGplay/Annoyer)
    • Access to Prankster and support moves like Encore, Thunder Wave, and Swagger makes it extremely annoying.
    • Unlike other annoyers such as Whimsicott, Liepard can actually net some KOs with Foul Play.
    • Pretty speedy, allowing it to outspeed stuff like an Aqua Jetting Kabutops and other mons with priority.
    • Encore will help your team against mons that set up, and after an Encore it might get a kill (woo \o/ right?)
    • Able to kill large portions of teams if it gets lucky with Swagger confusion (although this is more of a downside, reliance on luck.)
    • Will make your opponent rage quit Pokemon forever.
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    Something I've been using lately that I've really, really liked:

    Hail


    Utility:

    [​IMG](Specially Defensive)

    • Able to check many troublesome threats to Hail such as Cryogonal, Magneton, and Expert Belt Magmortar
    • Has Will-O-Wisp to cripple physcial attackers. Huge against Durant and Escavalier. Also hits Steels and Poisons with a status condition
    • Has Wish+Protect to stall out the opposition and keep stuff like Qwilfish and Regirock healthy. Also lets Glaceon and Walrein have more switch-in opportunities to start their stalling cycle
    • Drain Punch lowers its own reliability on Wish.
    • Checks most Electric- and Grass-types which is big for any Hail team using Walrein+Qwilfish. Also an emergency check for Rock- and Fighting-types due to its typing
    • Another weakness to Moltres and Entei which sucks. (hint: use Regirock! lol)
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    Offense/Bulky Offense/Balance:

    Special Sweepers:

    [​IMG] (Offensive Trick Room)

    • Although Slowking is well, slow, it can still sweep very effectively and this set can give fast offensive teams a lot of trouble
    • Trick Room lets slowking turn the speed tiers on its head, letting it outpace and KO much of the tier with its great coverage
    • even has nasty plot to further augment its special attack, although this means giving up a coverage move
    • More than enough bulk to set up Trick Room for itself more than once a match, regenerator helps with this too
    • although usually seen on Trick Room teams (which is a different category altogether), this Slowking functions as a standalone just fine, and can clutch a win pretty easily
    • more people need to use this
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    Here's a Pokemon that's literally screaming to be added to stall:

    Stall




    Spikes Users:

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    (Support)

    • While its stats look horrible, it's definitely no pushover of a seed
    • Eviolite gives it great defenses, also has awesome resistances
    • Sets up Spikes relatively easily, can also check Druddigon
    • Iron Barbs is really cool
    • Can also support its team with other cool stuff like T-Wave and Leech Seed
    • Being weak offensively sucks but its qualities outshine it
    • It's a seed
    Hail/Stall


    Utility (Hail) / Special Walls? (Stall)

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    (Specially Defensive)

    • Middling special bulk, but useful defensive typing
    • Can set up Toxic Spikes, which helps both hail and stall teams alike
    • Has a decently fast Taunt to stop setup
    • Also has Whirlwind+Toxic Spikes to spread poison across the team
    • This helps on hail stall with Stallrein having a smooth time
    • Okay powered Crunch too
    Offense


    Physical Sweepers

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    (Life Orb or Choice Band)

    • Very powerful, packing high powered moves
    • Nice Attack boosted by LO or CB allows it to sweep pretty well
    • High Speed allows it to outpace much of the metagame and hit 'em hard before they react
    • U-turn is also pretty cool
    • It's cute as fuck
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    (Shell Smash)
    • Slow speed, but can break that heavy shell to be a real good sweeper
    • Very powerful and has great coverage
    • Has enough speed to outpace Sceptile, which is a good benchmark to hit
    • Its STABs cover up most of the tier pretty well
    • Not to easy to wall
    • It's a crab with a heavy shell on it
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    Bulky Offense

    Physical Sweepers and Wallbreakers:

    [​IMG] (Toxic Boost)

    • Although Zangoose isn't bulky itself, it performs well on bulky offensive teams (if you don't believe me, rise of mangoose is bulky offense).
    • The Defensive backbone bulky offensive teams have helps make up for Zangoose's fraility, and gives the team something to fall back on if zangoose ends up forced out
    • Defensive hazard setters can also consistently get more layers of hazards up over the course of the match, making Zangoose exceptionally deadly
    • Great wallbreaker full bulky offensive teams, and can either sweep on its own or clear the way for a pokemon that can sweep late game, but didn't have the raw power to break through before.
    • Slow Volt Switch/U-turn users that fit on bulky offense help Zangoose get in for free
    • Toxic Boost quick attack can help Zangoose revenge kill some frail sweepers when needed.
    • Zangoose should also probably be added to the wallbreakers section of pure offense too
    Bulky Offense/Balance

    Spinblockers:
    [​IMG] (Bulky)
    • The Only Ghost-type that gives Kabutops quite a bit of trouble, can be ev'd to take a +2 Aqua Jet, Outspeed and OHKO with Thunderbolt, this is important considering how annoying Kabutops is as a spinner
    • Despite low defenses, good defensive typing and some investment can help Rotom take on other threats such as Durant, Swellow, Braviary, Klinklang, Hitmonlee, and even Escavalier to an extent
    • Somewhat fast Will-O-Wisp helps Bulky Rotom cripple physical attackers that hit Neutral base 80 Speed or below
    • Can use Pain Split to heal its hp from time to time, somewhat unreliable recovery, but its enough
    • even without investment Thunderbolt and Shadow Ball are strong enough to score KO's when needed.
    • Don't underestimate this set as a viable spinblocker despite its strange look.
    Bulky Offense/Balance

    Special Sweepers:
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    • Sub Rotom is an underrated yet quite effective special attacker in RU
    • can use its various resistances and immunities to switch in, force the opponent out, and set up a substitute as a cushion
    • Electric/Ghost is a pretty good STAB combination, with only a fair few Pokemon in RU resisting both at the same time
    • Pain Split helps Rotom heal its hp while sapping the opponent's at the same time, Substitute lowers Rotom's hp which makes Pain Split take away even more health from the opponent when combined with Rotom's naturally low HP stat
    • Subwisp is pretty nice on Rotom and lets it burn possibly annoying Pokemon along with threats that might attempt to Pursuit trap it, the Pokemon that resist both of Rotom's STABs are for the most part naturally vulnerable to Will-O-Wisp too
    • Can spinblock in a pinch but Rotom's pretty frail without some investment.
    Offensive/Bulky Offense/Balance:

    Special Sweepers:
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    • Sceptile's Speed, special attack, and decent coverage make it a formidable special attacker in RU
    • Sceptile's great base 120 Speed means it'll be striking before its opposition more often than not, and also means sceptile can pull off quick substitutes.
    • Depending on what route you go with the set, Sceptile can become an effective sub attacker, using it to ease prediction, block status and get into overgrow range, or just a nuke with a fast and powerful Life Orb leaf storm
    • can get past Bouffalant with a well placed Focus Blast, unlike other Grass-types such as Lilligant
    • Giga Drain's a nice STAB move to have on any Pokemon, and the passive recovery really helps out with Sceptile's longevity
    • Resists Aqua Jet from things like Kabutops and Feraligatr, which always helps when trying to pull off a sweep
    • still neutral at best to things like Extremespeed though ;_;
    • why wasn't sceptile mentioned here before :s.
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    Bulky Offense / Balance / Heavy Offense:

    Spinblockers:

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    (SubDisable or All-out attacker)

    • Great type and a good ability: Levitate, this allows to Haunter to get in the battle more easily because is inmunity to Normal, Fightyng and Ground types. Also, a type that makes to Haunter has a niche to checking some grass and poison types despite fragility.
    • Awesome offensive and support movepool as well, this makes really annoying Haunter because lacks to a true counter, can cripple walls with SubDisable or Pain Split LO / Taunt + W-o-Wisp or crippling them with Trick and then a Scarf item. This makes Haunter totally unpredictable and with a lot options to break mons and luring, for example a Destiny Bond can luring stuff like Cryogonal while at the same time you kill the spinner, finally have a good offensive stats paired with this wonderful movepool makes probably the best offensive spinbloker avalaible in the tier RU.
    • Great offense in overall to work like a special sweeper all-round with Life Orb paired with Shadow Ball + Sludge Bomb stated on Bulky Offense / Balance and even on Heavy Offense teams.
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    Offense / Bulky Offense / Sun Teams
    Wallbreakers / Sun Sweepers
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    • Very powerful, 2HKOing a majority of the tier with the strong STAB Flare Blitz.
    • Extreme Speed makes it a decent revenge killer (+2 means it outspeeds other priority moves like Kabutops Ajet or Absol Sucker Punch.)
    • Slightly bulky, can take a hit if necessary.
    • Can be part of a FWG core which is usually solid.
    Manly Teams
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    Balance / Bulky Offense:

    Pivots:

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    (Special Sweeper / Utility)

    • No weakness, the only weakness is irrelevant because Levitate makes a inmunity against ground attacks, only care about Mold Breaker users, this ability also makes inmunity Eelektross against Spikes and Toxic Spikes as well, paired with a decent defensive stats makes a good special sweeper tank.
    • Volt Switch and U-turn gives an important momentum and work well with frail mons that cant switch, the first have STAB but U-turn isnt walled by a ground types and have a better Atk than SpA. Also, Elek got Thunderbolt, Giga Drain that hits harder than GK against Lanturn and Flamethrower helps mostly against Steelix and Ferroseed. And finally if you decide dont run Volt Switch or U-turn you can put Acid Spray that beats easily the walls that should beat this set like Clefable.
    • Eelek has the option to run a physical movepool that makes more unpredictable this mon.
    Manly teams:
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    (Chomper)
    • Great type with a great resistances and only an awful weakness: Ice Types.
    • Stealth Rock support so can fixed well on your manly team :>
    • Rough Skin makes an useful mon being capable to check common threats such Entei and Kabutops, paired with a good bulk because eviolite is good.
    • Great coverage with both STAB: Outrage + Earthquake hits everything.
    • Hone Claws / Roar / Toxic are another interesting options.
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    Offense / Balance
    Hazard Setters:

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    • Good resists makes for an easy switch in, and lets Qwilfish check and counter common threats such as Entei, Durant, Escavalier, and even Hitmonlee with ease
    • Can taunt other hazard setters, most notably Crustle and Smeargle (with the right Speed EVs), effectively acting as a spinner.
    • Intimidate lets Qwilfish serve as an emergency stop to various physical threats even if it isn't an 100% counter, weakening things like Druddigon and Aggron in a tight situation.
    • Access to Thunder Wave, able to cripple threats to the rest of its team, especially Pokemon like Sceptile and Rotom-C (who rely on speed) that often switch into Qwilfish
    • Spikes are really good on Qwilfish, and is its main hazard to set.
    • Toxic Spikes can be useful depending on your teammates.
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    Bulky Offense/Balance:

    Physical Sweepers:

    [​IMG] (Swords Dance)

    • While usually seen on Sun teams, Sawsbuck can function as a physical sweeper outside of the sun too
    • Nice STABs to work with in Double Edge and Horn Leech, Nature Power rounds out its coverage quite nicely
    • Can use its resistances to things like Thunderbolt, Aqua Jet, Scald, and Earthquake to find opportunities to set up
    • Sap Sipper also gives Sawsbuck a complete immunity to Grass-type moves and even makes him benefit from them, this includes stuff like Spore.
    • 95 Base Speed means Sawsbuck is outrunning much of the tier, and OHKOing a lot of it at +2
    • Resists Aqua Jet and can Bypass Sucker Punch with Nature Power, making it at least somewhat priority resistant (although band espeed and stuff can still take out sawsbuck).
    • Can Baton Pass its boosts from Swords Dance and Sap Sipper in a pinch, or can use Baton Pass to scout potential switch ins
    • pretty underrated mon if you ask me =).

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