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Sceptile (QC 0/2)

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by Nickscor, Feb 7, 2012.

  1. Nickscor

    Nickscor

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    Second shot, again hit me if I'm doing anything wrong.

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    Staying swag since 3rd Gen.

    [Overview]

    • I'm the fastest Grass-type in VGC
    • I have a decent base 105 Special Attack stat
    • Small special movepool, but enough to get the job done
    • Low Defense and HP means it can't take a lot hits from opponents
    • Grass = poor defensive type, so it won't probably won't stick around the entire match.
    [Set]
    name: Special Attacker
    move 1: Leaf Storm
    move 2: Hidden Power Fire
    move 3: Dragon Pulse / Focus Blast
    move 4: Giga Drain / Detect
    item: Life Orb / Focus Sash
    ability: Overgrow
    nature: Timid
    evs: 12 HP / 248 SpA / 248 Spe

    [Set Comments]

    • Leaf Storm deals a ton of damage if it's not resisted, capable of OHKOing the likes of Terrakion.
    • HP Fire for opposing Grass and Steel-types. Messes up Abomasnow.
    • Dragon Pulse has reliable power and and put a dent into Dragon-types who would otherwise laugh at this set. Focus Blast is also a powerful special attack, but gets redundant coverage with HP Fire.
    • Giga Drain if you don't feel like lowering your Special Attack and as a backup; Detect is like Protect except you don't have to worry about Imprison.
    [Additional Comments]

    • EV Spread to maximize speed and power while compensating for the IV loss due to HP Fire.
    • Timid for speed, this guy outspeeds a majority of the VGC 2012 metagame.
    • Modest is chosen for extra power, as Sceptile will be stupidly fast with the Unburden boost.
    • Sceptile can't do much against Fire and Steel-types, so partners such as Terrakion are welcome.
    • Life Orb for better damage output. Focus Sash since Sceptile is quite frail; if Sash activates you get an Overgrow boost.
    [Other Options]

    • Physical set—Base 85 Atk and access to many physical moves.
    • Unburden with Grass Gem, be warned that its incompatible with Dragon Pulse. Run Modest, as double speed Sceptile is stupid fast.
    • Leech Seed
    • HP Ice / HP Rock?
    • Endeavor?
    [Checks and Counters]

    • Steel-types if no HP Fire, Metagross, Scizor, and Ferrothorn being prime examples. (Although neither would like a Focus blast to the face)
    • Chansey + Blissey
    • Fire-types, especially Chandelure. Can take every attack Sceptile throws, doesn't take much from an un-STAB'ed Dragon Pulse. Heatran must beware of Focus Blast, but otherwise walls the speedy gecko.
    • Trick Room
  2. Nickscor

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    Bumping for justice QC Checks.
  3. breh

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    no DW section; it's released.

    grass gem was good when I used it.
  4. Lucien Lachance

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    Focus Blast has redundant coverage with HP Fire. HP Fire will be more reliable in the long run for hitting Steel-types, because it doesn't miss 30% of the time. Unless Focus Blast gets X important OHKO or X important 2HKO, it should be put behind Dragon Pulse.
  5. felix

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    Can you have Dragon Pulse with Unburden?
  6. Nickscor

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    Oh crap, forgot about that, haha. I'll fix that when I edit this.

    Thanks for catching that.
  7. breh

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    sorry, I may have misled you.

    I ran a set of Giga Drain/Dragon Pulse/HP (ground or fire, can't recall)/Detect.

    Don't run unburden; sceptile is fast enough and overgrow's boost can sometimes come in handy.
  8. Nickscor

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    Changes Made:

    • Overgrow + Timid back on the main set
    • Moved Unburden to OO, be warned Unburden is incompatible with Dragon Pulse
    Let me know if I'm missing anything else.

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