Setup Hell

Introduction

Hi guys ! I'm Ewil and this is my first NU RMT, i'd create this team in a sort of 10 minutes thinking only on the major threats that NU has and it works pretty well on the ladder, ensuring me a top40 place (not too high, but i want to climb the ladder with your suggestions :D). I praticcaly never loose with this team except 2 times (1 for a good opponent and another for an important crit). So, let's see what you can do for me to improve this team ;D

Team Building Process

1)

2)

3)

Team at a Glance



Analysis



Miltank (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Scrappy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)

• Heal Bell
• Curse
• Body Slam
• Milk Drink

CurseTank is the first of my three setupper (four if we count Haunter's Sub) and can function even as a cleric with Heal Bell. Her job is to coming on a wall and starts to setup a couple of curse, after this, she can start to sweep any pkmn (Even Ghosts thanks to Scrappy) and spreading paralysis (Thanks to the good 30% chance of Body Slam). Her natural bulk plus the boost in defense thanks to Curse, gives to Miltank a damn good survival and sweeping chance. Milk Drink is for recovery. Heal Bell cures Miltank and her team mates from status. Body Slam is the STAB attack of choice. With this set, Miltank only suffers Sleep, strong Fight STAB attack and Crits.​

Shelgon (F) @ Eviolite
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)

• Wish
• Protect
• Toxic
• Dragon Claw

Shelgon have saved me in a lot of situation against physical sweepers. His bulk is amazing with the Eviolite boost and can tank even strong boosted physical attacks and WishProtect in answer. She is the healer of the team passing decent Wish to her team mates. She can Toxic and Dragon Claw is here for some damages and to not let Shelgon being totally fucked when Taunted.​

Skuntank (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Aftermath
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)

• Taunt
• Sucker Punch
• Pursuit
• Crunch

Oh my god ! Skuntank is so scary ! Provides to my team what my team have always wish: A priority user (Sucker Punch), a Tauter (Taunt Duh), a Toxic Spikes Absorber, a Psychic & Ghost trapper (Pursuit) and some usefull resistances and a immunity to a common type in this tier. With this pokemon a lot of problem are solved, i put Crunch as last lost for hitting Duosion harder. Thanks to Zebraiken for suggesting me this set.​

Throh (M) @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)

• Bulk Up
• Circle Throw
• Payback
• Rest

Comments soon . . . read post #5 for now​

Haunter (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)

• Substitute
• Shadow Ball
• Hidden Power [Ground]
• Pain Split

SubSplit Haunter needs more love, guys ! He is so awesome and powerful ! After entering the battle on a wall (or switch on a predicted toxic or immunity) everyone expects that he is scarfed, so they switch out (or in the case of Absol, starts to Sucker punch) only to see Haunter setup a Sub and proceed to sweep the incoming counter with his powerful STAB attack in Shadow Ball and HP Ground for coverage and hitting hard some threats like Bastiodon. Pain Split is a good recovery that can even weaken the opponent.​

Camerupt (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Solid Rock
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)

• Stealth Rock
• Earth Power
• Fire Blast
• Roar

Camerupt is the Stealth Rock setter of the team and she is my lead 70% of the times. Having the Stealth Rock on the opponent's field at the beginning of the battle is always a good thing, and Camerupt do this job pretty well. She have also good STAB attacks in Earth Power and Fire Blast and can phaze key threats for me with Roar and a bit of prediction. She also my special wall thanks to her HP and SDef and the an awesome ability in Solid Rock. This set also allow her to counter two common fearsome threats for any team: Magmortar and Rotom-S (Rotom can only Trick her).​

Changes (?)

Scarf Rotom-F > Throh

Rotom-F can be usefull at countering Gorebyss since he have a nice resistance to Ice Attack that prevents any unboosted Gorebyss attack to hit him hard (the real difference between F & S) and he have Blizzard, not so accurate but more powerfull and can hit Quagsire pretty hard i think.
Have to test yet.

SubCM/Coil Serperior > Throh

Serperior have that sexy speed & Grass type that can be usefull for my most slow team. Countering a lot of threats for this team such Quagsire & Gorebyss (if i can predict good for the last one i think) I'm thinking even for a SubCoil set, just have to test both and let you know. Maybe this team lack a bit of sinergy with him but not that much in my opinion.

Conclusions

Hope you all enjoy my RMT and can suggest me a lot of things to improve this team :) (Tip: i fu**in' love gimmick sets as you can see :P).
So please rate me and if you have any question, just ask to me :D

Last thing: i don't have a real Threat list and i don't even find a real pkmn that gives this team problems (maybe Rain team can be threating).

A good team. Though I haven't played a lot of NU, I can see that any decently fast lead (golbat anyone?) or indeed anything which has speed and taunt, could really give your team problems as it really lacks offensive presence without setting up.

For example, fraxure is going to give this team a really hard time if he carries taunt, which easily by-passes quagsire. I'm not completely sure what to do about it, though. Perhaps consider natu (although I'm not sure if mold breaker by-passes magic bounce when fraxure taunts, in-put someone?), who would give your team a much easier time with dual-screens while still preserving momentum if need be with u-turn.

Also, use HP fighting over sludge bomb on haunter as it provides much better coverage and hits pesky dark-types much harder.

I agree that Taunt severely hampers your team, though Jumpluff outspeeds most Taunt users. As for HP Fighting, Sludge Bomb does more to most of the common Dark-types of the tier, except for Skuntank which you will have trouble with in general. So HP Ground would probably work better for Skuntank, and covers Steels as well. I feel though that you don't have anything that can handle Special Sweepers, especially Shell Smash Gorebyss who can set up on many of your support moves and sweep most of your team if it has HP Grass (many do). Maybe replace one of your set up sweepers with a fast revenge killer like Jynx or Rotom-S? Or you can replace Jumpluff with Cacturne with Water Absorb and Sucker Punch. Hope this helps!

So Guys, thanks a lot for your rates !
Let's start to answer:

Yeah ! I'm weak to Taunt, but i've always play around it with nice predictions, so rarely i found myself totally trapped by this move.

The real problems are Rain & T-Spikes and the suggestion of Zebraiken are very usefull !
I've replaced Jump & Quag with Throh & Skunktank (for a short period i've tested Cacturn, but he's too frail for my kind of team) and for now, they're doing their job pretty well, for now i don't see too many Gorebyss around, so i can't test the real walling capabilities of Throh. For Skunktank, i use a totatl dark move set in Taunt/Crunch/Pursuit/Sucker Punch since i'm a bit aware of Duosion, so Crunch can come in handy :D
Taunt is a god send for this mon, being Will-O bait, i can Taunt for free and now i'm considering the idea to run Speed EVs on the little skunk, but i'm not really sure about what outspeeding lol

I've run HP Ground on Haunter and it doing pretty well except that i'm attackless against Swellow & Braviary (the most common), but that's not a real big problem, since i've Pain Split if i'm behind a sub, and i've Shelgon defending me from Physical hit.

So, thanks a lot again, and continue to suggest gimmicky sets, i really appreciate your help :D

P.S. Happy Birthday to me lol

edit: the OP will be edited soon

Hmm, with your changes Quagsire ironically walls most of your team, except for Shelgon. Skuntank can Taunt it, but an Earthquake will still do 63.4% - 75.1% to it. My biggest question now is what role does Haunter play in this updated team? It is the frailest Poke you have, isn't a fast enough revenge killer, and it doesn't fit in with your bulky attacker/defensive team, except as a spinblocker. Have you considered Misdreavus for the slot? Other than a slight danger to Swords Dance Samurott (it can still set up on half your team and and threaten your team if Shelgon faints) this team looks decent! :)

That's true ! But Haunter function as bluffing a scarf set, since i've Life Orb, and so, he can proceed to setup a sub and start sweeping hard. His sweep capabilities never disapointing me and if the opponent's Quaggy is physically defensive, Haunter can 2HKO with Shadow Ball i think. I never let Shelgon faints early (excepts for crits) since is the main physical wall and WishProtect with her is so easy, so i can wait that quaggy became the last opponen's pokemon and toxic him and waiting for his death, or just waiting that his/her heal beller faints :)

edit: i've place some possible good mons for the Throh place, what you think about them ? Have to test yet. Damn work and lag D: